Wii U handled backwards compatibility by essentially having a built-in Wii, which is essentially why Wii mode was separate. This has been the case for basically all of Nintendo's systems - in fact, the 3DS still has some bits of the GBA inside due to being built to have DS backwards compatibility, which they only ever leveraged as part of the Ambassador program. The Switch successor leaks haven't uncovered a similar setup, though, so it seems very likely it'll be the first Nintendo system to run its predecessor's games directly on the new hardware (especially with Nvidia supplying a new and improved successor to their Switch chip)
That's situational. If you still have a good CRT or early HD TV and Wii then that's the best way. But if you have a relatively recent HDTV, Wii games on a Wii are unbearable with the aliasing and fuzziness. Wii U fixes this issue so while its not the best way, its still an acceptable compromise.
the only Wii games that were better off being played on the original Wii instead were the ones that supported Gamecube controllers, like Mario Kart Wii and Super Smash Bros. Brawl. You could make the argument about using the Wii classic controller instead but there are some games out there too that support ONLY the Gamecube controller but not the classic controller like sonic riders zero gravity. Aside from that, you are better off playing these games on a WiiU, I personally don't due to me having save data corruption issues with my WiiU due to external issues, and me already owning a Wii anyway
Tears of the Kingdom and Xenoblade 3 are the two games I will instandly replay on Switch 2, the other first party games looked and ran well enough. I hope they give Tears of the Kingdom a proper remaster with updated visuals though, the game was already a miracle on the Switch, but it has massive potential to set the world on fire again when they re-release it with current-gen visuals.
Imagine the first xenoblade with no loading screens (they would have to make the terrain that normally gets skipped while transitioning from area to area, but that would be a dream).
Xenoblade 2 is the one with bigger performance issues. The other games seem to stutter a lot less because they either keep their 30 or are a lot smoother and consistent in their dips when they do happen depending on the situration.
Oh, that game is so fun though. I'm looking forward to playing it without the resolution dropping to dog water clarity, even through my MClassic boosting the visuals
Xenoblade 2 does have a dynamic resolution, both in docked and handheld. So a new console would help it at least hit a stable 720p 30fps, but man I would kill for a 4K 60fps update for that game.
XC2 goes down to 360p on handheld. it is so bad that they just remove the lighting in that mode. So, it does making the gatcha pull shadows much easier to see.
It is entirely possible to disable dynamic resolution(people made cheat codes for it), but idk if Nintendo would actually implement such an option. They also didn't disable the LoD model in Mario 64 despite it actually costing performance to have it around.(Yes, it is hilarious)
NEO The World Ends With You me mentioned! I put over 50 hours into that game but faster loading times and smoother framerate would make me want to go back and do all of the extra content.
To be fair we don't know if the Switch 2 will run the Switch 1 games enhanced without a patch. The New 3DS didn't run any Old 3DS game released before the New 3DS better. It even undercooked itself to match the normal 3DS iirc.
This is a bit of a Apples to Oranges comparison I feel though. Technically the DS and the 3DS ran in ways that demanded specific instructions etc. from the chip. The 3DS basically had an evolved DS chip so the 3DS could "devolve" itself to a DS to achieve perfect backwards compatibility. Modern hardware behaves differently, games aren't tied too hard to super specific chip designs anymore so the Switch 2 should have no need to become a Switch 1 to run Switch 1 games so Jon is right, games that run unlocked in some way should notice the additional headroom unless Nintendo artificially caps it.
I'm not 100% sure theyll go full PS5 mode, but I do expect AT LEAST Docked level quality in switch games, even in handheld EDIT: What I meant by this is how PS4 games are enhanced when played on PS5 with stuff like 4k, 120hz, etc.
I'd say they go for ps4 at least. Though I remember reading an article, Miyamoto wanted to give the players something more than just a powerful console.
@@superdajokaAssuming its 400$ we'll be lucky if it even breaks the PS4 mark. The handhelds that are as powerful as a ps4 pro are all over 600$. The steam deck, which is between the ps4 and pro is 400$, so the switch 2 will be a spowerful as it, right? Well no. The switch has both an included dock and a cart reader, which accumulates to 100$ taken off specs. So unless its like 450-500, it'll be at or slightly under the PS4 mark.
Looking at Odyssey and Bowsers Fury back to back is astounding. The animations really makes odyssey feel leagues ahead even though that game came out prior. BF was built on SM3DW yes, but man, that difference needs to be studied.
Nintendo will probably do Switch 2 patches for their own games to support higher performance, especially since it would be the first time it would be possible for their HD consoles!
I'm glad someone else is bringing this up in a video. I'm super excited to see faster load times in ACNH, and there's no reason we shouldn't. Thanks for sharing another fun video 🙂
Need a video of Jon just strolling through his games to see how long it takes to hit the end of it the list But it is his job to talk about games too, so it makes sense 😅😂
Unless the game receives a performance patch I think the best we will get is peformance on par with an overclocked Switch. I'd love to be proven wrong but I'm not excepting magic here. Unless the games where created with the next Switch's hardware in mind I'd expected more of the same in terms of performance when it comes to backwards compatibility.
I've been binge playing Neo The World Ends With You recently, and that was the game I wanted to see enhanced. Colour me surprised when that is one of the first games you talk about.
According to the Pokemon giga leak, there is meant to be one more update for SV. Providing that the Switch 2 is revealed before Pokemon Day at the end of February, I could see them showing off the gameplay on the Switch 2 with this update showing how smoother the game is
Hopefully with improved lighting and draw distance as well. An earlier build of the game had a better lighting engine but since y’know, they ain’t really that optimized in the first place, they cut even more corners down.
Hopefully bayonetta 3, Origins and astral chain will get Frame boosts. Also if an earthbound/mother 3 remake and kid icarus uprising remaster, sequel, or remake dont happen on the switch 2 I'm officially giving up
Age of Calamity was the first game that came to my mind. It's especially jarring when you compare it to Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition, which, in single player on the big screen, runs extremely smoothly pretty much all the time. Minor note: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 also has a dynamic resolution, so, while I would love to see a patch to have it run at 1080p natively on the TV, the Switch 2 would still boost it to a consistent 720p at least, which it certainly doesn't always hit right now.
Fire Emblem Three Hopes also comes to mind. While a lot better optimized than Age of Calamity, it suffers from a similar overall issue. It targets 60 FPS but can barely hold 30 at most times and only randomly deciding to run at near full FPS when it just sorta feels like it. The result is a game that sometimes feels wildly diffrent(for the better, having full FPS is a lot smoother and responsive it feels like) every once in a while with nothing the player can do to influence it.
Glad you started off with Animal Crossing aha, I really started filling out my island this last year (talking every single corner) and framerate started to tank like crazy.. Holding off on playing until the Switch's successor comes out
I think we actually can expect improved image quality even in Xenoblade 2, because most of the blurriness is due to dynamic resolution, not low texture quality. Since it's dynamically reducing the resolution in response to limited resources, on a more powerful system it should automatically look much better.
I thought the blurriness was due to the type of Anti Aliasing they use, lmao. That won't magically go away, if anything it is more noticable on higher resolution to the point people made a mod to remove it for Xenoblade DE.(There were also mods or cheats for the other games, but Iirc, they either didn't work correctly or were not correctly updated for newer game versions. It has been months since I checked tho)
@@lpfan4491 There are probably multiple factors. It definitely does use dynamic resolution though, and it's probably the worst example of it (goes down to what…320p at times?). I think it'll benefit much more than, say, Wolfenstein II, which will almost certainly still look like someone smeared the screen with vaseline (because the texture quality is quite bad).
Very helpful. I’m going to put many of these on the back burner and hope for better performance on Switch 2. Got plenty of other Switch and PS4/5 games to play in the meantime.
Pikmin 4 is one that always pop up in my mind. The game doesn't really have performance issues, but it does use dynamic resolution and can get pretty blurry in handheld mode. Max resolution Pikmin 4 sounds blissful.
Hyrule Warriors AOC, Zelda TOTK and Pokémon Legends Arceus playing better on Switch 2 will make those games for me and make me finally want to play/finish them.
Age of Calamity is always the first game I think of when it comes to Switch 2 possibly improving performance of Switch games. That game got so much backlash because of the framerate, but I ended up loving it despite the performance
hopefully switch 2 will do something about the monastery load screens in Fire Emblem Three Houses. Fast travelling and getting stuck on a door that won't open for good few seconds because the area behind it needs to be loaded is always really jarring and makes an already lengthy part of the game take even longer.
Hey Jon! Great video. Lastly I've been obsessed with my Wii (while waiting for switch 2), and I was wandering if you will have any Wii videos to make the wait for switch 2 more enjoyable, do you?
As long as the Switch 2 is still handheld, which is unconfirmed so far as I've heard, the backwards compatibility is probably the most exciting aspect of what we know, more so than new games since my backlog is already insurmountable.
I want remasters and patches yes, but I also want the Virtual Console back, I want more PS4/5 and Xbox One/Series ports, and I would like to see more plans to port and remaster more GameCube, Wii, Wii U, DS and 3DS releases.
Upcoming big titles like Metroid Prime 4 and Xenoblade Chronicles X will probably be promoted for the Switch successor once it's out/officially revealed, I'm sure those two games will benefit a lot, they're pushing the Switch to its limits already.
I hope Nintendo adds an optional boost mode on the Switch 2 that could unlock higher frame rates, raise the resolution or maybe use fancy DLSS upscaling. Old Switch 1 titles would look and feel brand new and that's exciting!
Albeit being a port, Another one that I’m looking forward to playing on switch 2 is Dying Light. That game later got patched on switch to run at a locked 30fps, but the unpatched physical version of that game ran at an unlocked framerate. Meaning in theory that game could run at 60fps. And I’m ‘dying’ to see it run like that on a handheld
I own both Link's Awakening and Echoes of Wisdom but haven't really played either yet - and I don't think I'm going to until the Switch 2 at this point.
I'm really excited for Scarlet and Violet on Switch 2, everything about the game is incredible except the performance. It has the potential to rival gens 4 and 5 if people are able to see past the lag
I don’t think a having more powerful hardware will fix code optimization issues. Animal Crossing NH will never be as good as that edit- because on PC’s with even more power (granted it is being emulated) the load screens still remain.
So question regarding backwards compatibility: will games bought digitally also be playable through the account on the next console, or is it only for physical copies? That feels especially important with DLC content like the torna or future redeemed for the Xenoblade series
Gotta say, glad this channel is called Good Vibes Gaming. I definitely am in need of the good vibes, more so than ever and you guys always deliver. As for the topic of the video, Bayonetta 3 is a game that I first think of for games that would greatly benefit from a Switch successor boost.
In general all games not reaching their target resolution; or games with dynamic res should in theory improve instantly. Also I/O and loading related operations should instantly improve (I'm not only talking about general loading times, but also resource and asset streaming which are apparently the culprits of the slowdowns in Link awakening remastered & Echoes of Wisdom).
There are so so so many Switch games that needs an upgrade to either be locked 30 or 60 fps. Everything from Platinum like Astral Chain, Wonderful101, Bayo 3 to all of the Nintendo Musou games, to Pokemon, Xenoblade series, all of the impossible ports like Doom, Wolfenstien, Witcher 3, Hogwarts Legacy. Then we got the first party games made by third party studio like Echoes, Brothership, and Endless ocean Luminous. there are also way too many Square Enix games that chugs on the Switch to list that needs upgrading. I would say that maybe 80% of the entire Switch library needs some sort of a visual and performance upgrade.
I do have some doubts for Scarlet and Violet as I don't think it's problems were less to do with processing power and more to do with being assembled with hot glue and promises.
My only thing with the switch 2 is I hope we either get a bunch of storage off the bat or can still use sd cards. It was so simple to add storage to the switch and I know adding an ssd to console isn’t the hardest thing but I prefer how easy and cheap a micro sd card is
So how would better hardware improve the loading speed from physical games exactly? Won't the original switch carts still be limited by the read speed of the carts themselves? I guess if the new switch has internal high speed storage it could be possible to install the game files onto the switch itself (if they give you the option for this), but i don't think you can just plug in a switch cart and expect better loading times here...
I’m hoping that Bayonetta 3 will be able to run at a consistent framerate, since the fact that it was 60 fps and yet stuttered constantly made it a bit of a slog to play compared to its predecessors. And there’s also Xenoblade 2, which is a sharpened mess in handheld mode, and so I’m also hoping an upgrade would be able to rectify that.
Pie in the sky wish: every first party game gets one last major update. On top of a next gen upgrade, content that either the developers always wanted or the fans have been begging for since launch get added to make these games "content complete" for a new generation to pick up, possibly at a discount.
Really just hope the physical cartridges work on switch 2. I know people are saying yes and no but once I have confirmation it could be a great upgrade. My switch still works fine so don’t have a reason to upgrade right now 😂
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The recent Bakeru (basically a new Legend of the Mystical Ninja game) is one that I hope gets a smoother framerate. Also, Monster Hunter Rise. Don't get me wrong, it looks fantastic for the Switch... too good for the resolution it runs at, in my opinion. I feel like it needs to be freed from its jaggies to an extent.
If they update Xenoblade 2 (and the others, of course) it might be the best day of my life. I just NEED to see the Kingdoms of Uraya and Tantal crystal clear
hopefully its the same as the 3ds. The slot would basically the same the new carts would just be designed to not fit in a switch 1. I can't really imagine nintendo abandoning physical media just yet
@catmachete2900 they confirmed they aren't abandoning physical media a couple months ago. They did make a statement on that. However with the Switch 2 needing cards that support bigger file sizes for these games I'm assuming it'll be new media. But maybe it'll be like the 3ds and still work.
When Nintendo says "software" they mean "games". Nintendo would not release the statement they did if they were going to qualify it later with "digital software-only". Physical cartridges are thus confirmed backwards compatible for Switch 2. Given that the Switch 2 is likely to use the same Switch cartridges, just the higher capacity version, it likely shares the same slot
@Greekanese31 are you sure tho? Software could just mean it's compatible to run Switch software...not necessary physical if they don't have the slot for it. Could just be digital emulation
Of course they mean physical, the Switch 2 isn't going to be digital-only, it'll have physical cartridges much like the current Switch, in fact the cartridges will probably look exactly the same.
People keep saying Pokémon runs like crap due to the switch’s power but that isn’t true at all People have emulated the game on PC and the issues are still present. The bad performance is just part of the actual games code, people had to hack the game to increase performance.
I will never understand the people who defend Scarlet and Violet. No matter how good or bad the story might be the state that game was released in is beyond unacceptable. I would quite literally rather have every member of the Pokémon company break down my door and slap me in the face than play that absolute mess, because at least I wouldn’t have to sacrifice hard earned money to get slapped in the face.
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 what he means is that the Pokémon company sees that they still make record profits even if the game is released in a terrible unfinished state. They no longer need to put effort into the game because profit is a guarantee. It’s a devastatingly true thing. If it were any other franchise than Pokémon, Scarlet and Violet would be so lambasted and would be a massive financial failure, but since it’s the Pokémon company, you have people defending it and saying oh but it’s fine or oh, but it has a good story.
Absolutely, that game is unoptimized and glitchy beyond belief. And even if it does SOMEHOW (won’t happen) run well, the game still looks like shit (low quality textures) including visual glitches like shadows changing with the camera angle, that won’t get fixed with a change of hardware
Oh btw, just purely putting the raw Switch 1 cart into a more powerful system shouldn't improve the load times that much I wouldn't think. For sure the Animal Crossing example is definitely not achievable without patching or a native port, assuming that part of how they got BotW loading that fast is from having it run natively (which you have to assume if it's running faster and at a higher resolution than the Switch)
My prediction is that Nintendo will use BotW and/or TotK to advertise the new system, despite them being Switch games They will show off how much better the game looks and how fast the games load, but they won't bring up the performance, but will be obvious to us
Oh my god that's a lot of games. How many do you have on your Switch? I thought I had a big library with 150+ games. But you kept scrolling and scrolling non-stop.
I hope Nickelodeon All-star Brawl 2 gets a switch 2 performance patch because man it runs so weirdly I know that's 3rd party for a practically dead game, literal death because everyone got fired, not because whatever Smash Fanboys think it means, but I really like that game and I think it needs to be able to be enjoyed to its full potential by its biggest playerbase, Switch users
Remember the GVG video about how the Wii U was a downgrade for playing Wii games? I hope Jon doesn't have to roll in the grass again...
Wii U handled backwards compatibility by essentially having a built-in Wii, which is essentially why Wii mode was separate. This has been the case for basically all of Nintendo's systems - in fact, the 3DS still has some bits of the GBA inside due to being built to have DS backwards compatibility, which they only ever leveraged as part of the Ambassador program. The Switch successor leaks haven't uncovered a similar setup, though, so it seems very likely it'll be the first Nintendo system to run its predecessor's games directly on the new hardware (especially with Nvidia supplying a new and improved successor to their Switch chip)
That's situational. If you still have a good CRT or early HD TV and Wii then that's the best way. But if you have a relatively recent HDTV, Wii games on a Wii are unbearable with the aliasing and fuzziness. Wii U fixes this issue so while its not the best way, its still an acceptable compromise.
the only Wii games that were better off being played on the original Wii instead were the ones that supported Gamecube controllers, like Mario Kart Wii and Super Smash Bros. Brawl. You could make the argument about using the Wii classic controller instead but there are some games out there too that support ONLY the Gamecube controller but not the classic controller like sonic riders zero gravity.
Aside from that, you are better off playing these games on a WiiU, I personally don't due to me having save data corruption issues with my WiiU due to external issues, and me already owning a Wii anyway
I hope he does >:D
Nintendo has always had their backwards compatibility runs equal to the previous console. This is a pipedream.
A man of his word
So rare to find on youtube😅
That's why he left gamexplain
Tears of the Kingdom and Xenoblade 3 are the two games I will instandly replay on Switch 2, the other first party games looked and ran well enough. I hope they give Tears of the Kingdom a proper remaster with updated visuals though, the game was already a miracle on the Switch, but it has massive potential to set the world on fire again when they re-release it with current-gen visuals.
Imagine the first xenoblade with no loading screens (they would have to make the terrain that normally gets skipped while transitioning from area to area, but that would be a dream).
@@ShadowSkyX then you will joyfully find out that Xenoblade X has no loadingscreens. It is fully open world
@@GeHeumYeah, but X doesn't take place on the bodies of 2 gods.
I thought Xenoblade 3, despite it running at 30 fps ran quite smoothly. I don’t remember a single instance of slow down when I played it.
Xenoblade 2 is the one with bigger performance issues. The other games seem to stutter a lot less because they either keep their 30 or are a lot smoother and consistent in their dips when they do happen depending on the situration.
The game I've been saving for Switch 2 is Age of Calamity, that runs like molasses in co-op
Oh, that game is so fun though. I'm looking forward to playing it without the resolution dropping to dog water clarity, even through my MClassic boosting the visuals
Animal Crossing with immediate loading would make me scream in joy
Tbh, hope for the loadings to be cut in half, maybe, but probably not eliminated completely.
Even Dave the Diver would be 5x better without those brutal loading times.
I just dont want the framerate to chug when I walk by busier parts of my island 🥲
Bowsers fury..
Xenoblade 2 does have a dynamic resolution, both in docked and handheld. So a new console would help it at least hit a stable 720p 30fps, but man I would kill for a 4K 60fps update for that game.
Same dude, Fingers crossed.
Saaaaame. I wanna explore Uraya, Tantal, and Leftheria in 4k
You know exactly the reason why I want Xenoblade 2 in 4k. 2 reasons, actuallt
XC2 goes down to 360p on handheld. it is so bad that they just remove the lighting in that mode. So, it does making the gatcha pull shadows much easier to see.
It is entirely possible to disable dynamic resolution(people made cheat codes for it), but idk if Nintendo would actually implement such an option. They also didn't disable the LoD model in Mario 64 despite it actually costing performance to have it around.(Yes, it is hilarious)
0:34 "don't say i never did anything for you guys"
NEO The World Ends With You me mentioned! I put over 50 hours into that game but faster loading times and smoother framerate would make me want to go back and do all of the extra content.
I 100% the game but I would do it again.
Imagine the Switch 2 being a museum of all Nintendo games, not just OG Switch titles, but all the way back to their NES games.
I think they plan Nintendo Online to become this.
To be fair we don't know if the Switch 2 will run the Switch 1 games enhanced without a patch. The New 3DS didn't run any Old 3DS game released before the New 3DS better. It even undercooked itself to match the normal 3DS iirc.
This is a bit of a Apples to Oranges comparison I feel though. Technically the DS and the 3DS ran in ways that demanded specific instructions etc. from the chip. The 3DS basically had an evolved DS chip so the 3DS could "devolve" itself to a DS to achieve perfect backwards compatibility.
Modern hardware behaves differently, games aren't tied too hard to super specific chip designs anymore so the Switch 2 should have no need to become a Switch 1 to run Switch 1 games so Jon is right, games that run unlocked in some way should notice the additional headroom unless Nintendo artificially caps it.
Astral chain would run like so great and look wonderful in switch 2, hopefully astral chain 2 for it as well
That's the one I'm looking forward to the most to replay.
I'm not 100% sure theyll go full PS5 mode, but I do expect AT LEAST Docked level quality in switch games, even in handheld
EDIT: What I meant by this is how PS4 games are enhanced when played on PS5 with stuff like 4k, 120hz, etc.
I'd say they go for ps4 at least. Though I remember reading an article, Miyamoto wanted to give the players something more than just a powerful console.
Definitely early ps4. Beyond that is an insane ask and already a major jump as is.
@@ShadowSkyX Yeah U can totally see that. Considering the length game design takes it makes sense.
I would like ps4 pro levels of power
@@superdajokaAssuming its 400$ we'll be lucky if it even breaks the PS4 mark. The handhelds that are as powerful as a ps4 pro are all over 600$. The steam deck, which is between the ps4 and pro is 400$, so the switch 2 will be a spowerful as it, right? Well no. The switch has both an included dock and a cart reader, which accumulates to 100$ taken off specs. So unless its like 450-500, it'll be at or slightly under the PS4 mark.
For me any excuse to replay the masterpiece Xenoblade series is very much welcomed even though I've played them that many times I lost count :-)
Wow. You like the Xenoblade series that much?
@stripedrajang3571 Quite an underrated gem, to be honest.
@alexjimenez4462 , I agree. I played each one of the Xenoblade Chronicles series only once, except part 3 and its dlc.
@@stripedrajang3571 It's one of my all-time favourite IPs right next to Zelda, Metroid and Fire Emblem :-)
Xenoblade is the perfect series to replay especially now that the whole trilogy is wrapped up! And those that know, know why ;)
0:44 at least he's touching grass
You forgot perhaps the most important game that should perform better: the Nintendo eshop
Real
Looking at Odyssey and Bowsers Fury back to back is astounding. The animations really makes odyssey feel leagues ahead even though that game came out prior. BF was built on SM3DW yes, but man, that difference needs to be studied.
Nintendo will probably do Switch 2 patches for their own games to support higher performance, especially since it would be the first time it would be possible for their HD consoles!
I hope 3rd parties do also. Especially Square-Enix and Falcom.
@@RawPower867 enix should focus on putting games like Sleeping Dogs on the current Nintendo Switch.
if they do, they won't be free
@@PAINt0theMAX Why can't they do both?
Also, it's their Japanese library that sells best on the Switch.
@@RawPower867 I saw a lot of ppl asking for Sleeping Dogs though
I'm glad someone else is bringing this up in a video. I'm super excited to see faster load times in ACNH, and there's no reason we shouldn't. Thanks for sharing another fun video 🙂
Damn, Jon just kept going on and on with the games in his Switch 🤯🤯🤯
Need a video of Jon just strolling through his games to see how long it takes to hit the end of it the list
But it is his job to talk about games too, so it makes sense 😅😂
0:34 You see that? That's a man of his god damn word right thar! 🤠
Unless the game receives a performance patch I think the best we will get is peformance on par with an overclocked Switch. I'd love to be proven wrong but I'm not excepting magic here. Unless the games where created with the next Switch's hardware in mind I'd expected more of the same in terms of performance when it comes to backwards compatibility.
Having a semi-consistent FPS would already be enough for a lot of people.
I've been binge playing Neo The World Ends With You recently, and that was the game I wanted to see enhanced. Colour me surprised when that is one of the first games you talk about.
According to the Pokemon giga leak, there is meant to be one more update for SV. Providing that the Switch 2 is revealed before Pokemon Day at the end of February, I could see them showing off the gameplay on the Switch 2 with this update showing how smoother the game is
Hopefully with improved lighting and draw distance as well. An earlier build of the game had a better lighting engine but since y’know, they ain’t really that optimized in the first place, they cut even more corners down.
Hopefully bayonetta 3, Origins and astral chain will get Frame boosts. Also if an earthbound/mother 3 remake and kid icarus uprising remaster, sequel, or remake dont happen on the switch 2 I'm officially giving up
Age of Calamity was the first game that came to my mind. It's especially jarring when you compare it to Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition, which, in single player on the big screen, runs extremely smoothly pretty much all the time.
Minor note:
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 also has a dynamic resolution, so, while I would love to see a patch to have it run at 1080p natively on the TV, the Switch 2 would still boost it to a consistent 720p at least, which it certainly doesn't always hit right now.
Fire Emblem Three Hopes also comes to mind. While a lot better optimized than Age of Calamity, it suffers from a similar overall issue. It targets 60 FPS but can barely hold 30 at most times and only randomly deciding to run at near full FPS when it just sorta feels like it. The result is a game that sometimes feels wildly diffrent(for the better, having full FPS is a lot smoother and responsive it feels like) every once in a while with nothing the player can do to influence it.
I mean, Age of calamity has a much more diverse map and all going on.
great video Jon! Really appreciated your preamble about what exactly you were seeking out
Most graceful grass roll I have ever seen 🍃
Glad you started off with Animal Crossing aha, I really started filling out my island this last year (talking every single corner) and framerate started to tank like crazy.. Holding off on playing until the Switch's successor comes out
Best intro ever
A man of his word. Well done Jon
I think we actually can expect improved image quality even in Xenoblade 2, because most of the blurriness is due to dynamic resolution, not low texture quality. Since it's dynamically reducing the resolution in response to limited resources, on a more powerful system it should automatically look much better.
I thought the blurriness was due to the type of Anti Aliasing they use, lmao. That won't magically go away, if anything it is more noticable on higher resolution to the point people made a mod to remove it for Xenoblade DE.(There were also mods or cheats for the other games, but Iirc, they either didn't work correctly or were not correctly updated for newer game versions. It has been months since I checked tho)
@@lpfan4491 There are probably multiple factors. It definitely does use dynamic resolution though, and it's probably the worst example of it (goes down to what…320p at times?). I think it'll benefit much more than, say, Wolfenstein II, which will almost certainly still look like someone smeared the screen with vaseline (because the texture quality is quite bad).
Would’ve been so funny if they put the clip of Jon rolling around without any context
Very helpful. I’m going to put many of these on the back burner and hope for better performance on Switch 2. Got plenty of other Switch and PS4/5 games to play in the meantime.
Thank you for keeping your word jon
Pikmin 4 is one that always pop up in my mind. The game doesn't really have performance issues, but it does use dynamic resolution and can get pretty blurry in handheld mode. Max resolution Pikmin 4 sounds blissful.
Pretty excited for the enhancements, nice video ✨
0:35 …Sad moment!
Good selection!
Hyrule Warriors AOC, Zelda TOTK and Pokémon Legends Arceus playing better on Switch 2 will make those games for me and make me finally want to play/finish them.
Age of Calamity is always the first game I think of when it comes to Switch 2 possibly improving performance of Switch games. That game got so much backlash because of the framerate, but I ended up loving it despite the performance
hopefully switch 2 will do something about the monastery load screens in Fire Emblem Three Houses. Fast travelling and getting stuck on a door that won't open for good few seconds because the area behind it needs to be loaded is always really jarring and makes an already lengthy part of the game take even longer.
KEEP ROLLIN ROLLIN ROLLIN
I put a Terrabyte SD card in my switch so being able to keep probably around 200+ games to the next console is a nice feeling. ❤
Hey Jon! Great video. Lastly I've been obsessed with my Wii (while waiting for switch 2), and I was wandering if you will have any Wii videos to make the wait for switch 2 more enjoyable, do you?
As long as the Switch 2 is still handheld, which is unconfirmed so far as I've heard, the backwards compatibility is probably the most exciting aspect of what we know, more so than new games since my backlog is already insurmountable.
I want remasters and patches yes, but I also want the Virtual Console back, I want more PS4/5 and Xbox One/Series ports, and I would like to see more plans to port and remaster more GameCube, Wii, Wii U, DS and 3DS releases.
I'm keeping my expectations very low for backwards compatibility upgrades. Any sort of boost at all would be a pleasant surprise.
Upcoming big titles like Metroid Prime 4 and Xenoblade Chronicles X will probably be promoted for the Switch successor once it's out/officially revealed, I'm sure those two games will benefit a lot, they're pushing the Switch to its limits already.
I hope Nintendo adds an optional boost mode on the Switch 2 that could unlock higher frame rates, raise the resolution or maybe use fancy DLSS upscaling. Old Switch 1 titles would look and feel brand new and that's exciting!
As someone who has never owned a switch, this has me hyped af. Both libraries 1080x60fps.
Albeit being a port, Another one that I’m looking forward to playing on switch 2 is Dying Light. That game later got patched on switch to run at a locked 30fps, but the unpatched physical version of that game ran at an unlocked framerate. Meaning in theory that game could run at 60fps. And I’m ‘dying’ to see it run like that on a handheld
I own both Link's Awakening and Echoes of Wisdom but haven't really played either yet - and I don't think I'm going to until the Switch 2 at this point.
I'm really excited for Scarlet and Violet on Switch 2, everything about the game is incredible except the performance. It has the potential to rival gens 4 and 5 if people are able to see past the lag
I don’t think a having more powerful hardware will fix code optimization issues. Animal Crossing NH will never be as good as that edit- because on PC’s with even more power (granted it is being emulated) the load screens still remain.
So question regarding backwards compatibility: will games bought digitally also be playable through the account on the next console, or is it only for physical copies? That feels especially important with DLC content like the torna or future redeemed for the Xenoblade series
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Hey we have the same joy cons! Love the Splatoon 2 color scheme.
Gotta say, glad this channel is called Good Vibes Gaming. I definitely am in need of the good vibes, more so than ever and you guys always deliver.
As for the topic of the video, Bayonetta 3 is a game that I first think of for games that would greatly benefit from a Switch successor boost.
In general all games not reaching their target resolution; or games with dynamic res should in theory improve instantly. Also I/O and loading related operations should instantly improve (I'm not only talking about general loading times, but also resource and asset streaming which are apparently the culprits of the slowdowns in Link awakening remastered & Echoes of Wisdom).
There are so so so many Switch games that needs an upgrade to either be locked 30 or 60 fps. Everything from Platinum like Astral Chain, Wonderful101, Bayo 3 to all of the Nintendo Musou games, to Pokemon, Xenoblade series, all of the impossible ports like Doom, Wolfenstien, Witcher 3, Hogwarts Legacy. Then we got the first party games made by third party studio like Echoes, Brothership, and Endless ocean Luminous. there are also way too many Square Enix games that chugs on the Switch to list that needs upgrading. I would say that maybe 80% of the entire Switch library needs some sort of a visual and performance upgrade.
Guilty Gear Strive could use a Switch 2 specific patch so cross-play can be supported.
I do have some doubts for Scarlet and Violet as I don't think it's problems were less to do with processing power and more to do with being assembled with hot glue and promises.
Jon is the best person on RUclips and it's not even close.
Personally my favourite British gamer is DanTDM, but yes, Jon is one of the best
The intro made me think Earthbound got a remake that came out in October
This assumes also that the backwards compatibility is for both digital and physical cartridge games.
My only thing with the switch 2 is I hope we either get a bunch of storage off the bat or can still use sd cards. It was so simple to add storage to the switch and I know adding an ssd to console isn’t the hardest thing but I prefer how easy and cheap a micro sd card is
I feel like Advance Wars Reboot Camp would benefit too. It always had a weirdly wonky framerate for some reason.
So how would better hardware improve the loading speed from physical games exactly? Won't the original switch carts still be limited by the read speed of the carts themselves? I guess if the new switch has internal high speed storage it could be possible to install the game files onto the switch itself (if they give you the option for this), but i don't think you can just plug in a switch cart and expect better loading times here...
Quality intro😂
Yeah, the 3DS had this too with DS games, but not to the same scale. The load times were actually faster on a 3DS then on an original DS.
Great video
I miss Jon's "hot take time", bring it back!
I’m hoping that Bayonetta 3 will be able to run at a consistent framerate, since the fact that it was 60 fps and yet stuttered constantly made it a bit of a slog to play compared to its predecessors. And there’s also Xenoblade 2, which is a sharpened mess in handheld mode, and so I’m also hoping an upgrade would be able to rectify that.
Pie in the sky wish: every first party game gets one last major update. On top of a next gen upgrade, content that either the developers always wanted or the fans have been begging for since launch get added to make these games "content complete" for a new generation to pick up, possibly at a discount.
I'd like to see what Another Crab's Treasure can do on the Switch successor it's a good game but stutter makes dodging a problem
Really just hope the physical cartridges work on switch 2. I know people are saying yes and no but once I have confirmation it could be a great upgrade. My switch still works fine so don’t have a reason to upgrade right now 😂
Yeah,john rolling on grass is fine. But if this man were right, this world would be so much better now
Thanks for the analysis! Could you help me with something unrelated: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How can I transfer them to Binance?
I actually want that XC2 patch…fingers crossed
Don't think that faster loading times would work for those with cartridges. Don't know the max reading speed, but it probably isn't very high.
Why’d you have a discussion on switch 2 at the end of your grass rolling video.. I’m here for the grass!!!
Whats sad is that the silver case 2425 still will lag on switch 2 even tho its a ps1 and mobile phone TEXT BASED ADVENTURE GAME
The recent Bakeru (basically a new Legend of the Mystical Ninja game) is one that I hope gets a smoother framerate.
Also, Monster Hunter Rise. Don't get me wrong, it looks fantastic for the Switch... too good for the resolution it runs at, in my opinion. I feel like it needs to be freed from its jaggies to an extent.
Do we know if it's backwards compatible with digital copies of the game, or is it just physical?
I'll believe that anything on Switch 2 runs in 4K when I finally see it.
I'm waiting for the next console to play Age of Calamity, Spyro Trilogy or another similar game that needs an upgrade
Solid opening.
Smash Ultimate also has a lot of input delay compared to the other games in the series, hopefully more powerful hardware would lower the input delay
If they update Xenoblade 2 (and the others, of course) it might be the best day of my life. I just NEED to see the Kingdoms of Uraya and Tantal crystal clear
So my paranoid mind is telling me that while yes they said backwards compatible they didn't confirm that it would include physical backcompat.
hopefully its the same as the 3ds. The slot would basically the same the new carts would just be designed to not fit in a switch 1. I can't really imagine nintendo abandoning physical media just yet
@catmachete2900 they confirmed they aren't abandoning physical media a couple months ago. They did make a statement on that. However with the Switch 2 needing cards that support bigger file sizes for these games I'm assuming it'll be new media. But maybe it'll be like the 3ds and still work.
When Nintendo says "software" they mean "games". Nintendo would not release the statement they did if they were going to qualify it later with "digital software-only". Physical cartridges are thus confirmed backwards compatible for Switch 2. Given that the Switch 2 is likely to use the same Switch cartridges, just the higher capacity version, it likely shares the same slot
@Greekanese31 are you sure tho? Software could just mean it's compatible to run Switch software...not necessary physical if they don't have the slot for it. Could just be digital emulation
Of course they mean physical, the Switch 2 isn't going to be digital-only, it'll have physical cartridges much like the current Switch, in fact the cartridges will probably look exactly the same.
Liking and commenting because Jon rolled in the grass. The man has chortles
People keep saying Pokémon runs like crap due to the switch’s power but that isn’t true at all
People have emulated the game on PC and the issues are still present. The bad performance is just part of the actual games code, people had to hack the game to increase performance.
I will never understand the people who defend Scarlet and Violet. No matter how good or bad the story might be the state that game was released in is beyond unacceptable. I would quite literally rather have every member of the Pokémon company break down my door and slap me in the face than play that absolute mess, because at least I wouldn’t have to sacrifice hard earned money to get slapped in the face.
pokemon games run bad because people buy them anyway
What logic is that? @@enorma29
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 what he means is that the Pokémon company sees that they still make record profits even if the game is released in a terrible unfinished state. They no longer need to put effort into the game because profit is a guarantee. It’s a devastatingly true thing. If it were any other franchise than Pokémon, Scarlet and Violet would be so lambasted and would be a massive financial failure, but since it’s the Pokémon company, you have people defending it and saying oh but it’s fine or oh, but it has a good story.
Absolutely, that game is unoptimized and glitchy beyond belief. And even if it does SOMEHOW (won’t happen) run well, the game still looks like shit (low quality textures) including visual glitches like shadows changing with the camera angle, that won’t get fixed with a change of hardware
Oh btw, just purely putting the raw Switch 1 cart into a more powerful system shouldn't improve the load times that much I wouldn't think. For sure the Animal Crossing example is definitely not achievable without patching or a native port, assuming that part of how they got BotW loading that fast is from having it run natively (which you have to assume if it's running faster and at a higher resolution than the Switch)
i think gvg gang should all roll on the grass for their intros as well
Truly a man of his word.
shout out to the first Daemon Ex Machina game
I doubt that there's going to be any changes in the frame rates nor resolution.
My prediction is that Nintendo will use BotW and/or TotK to advertise the new system, despite them being Switch games
They will show off how much better the game looks and how fast the games load, but they won't bring up the performance, but will be obvious to us
I have one game in my Switch library. Fox McCloud dating sim. Glad it's backwards compatible. Peace 💜
never heard anyone talk about the smash ultimate costume thing before lmao, always bugged me too
Oh my god that's a lot of games. How many do you have on your Switch? I thought I had a big library with 150+ games. But you kept scrolling and scrolling non-stop.
I hope Nickelodeon All-star Brawl 2 gets a switch 2 performance patch because man it runs so weirdly
I know that's 3rd party for a practically dead game, literal death because everyone got fired, not because whatever Smash Fanboys think it means, but I really like that game and I think it needs to be able to be enjoyed to its full potential by its biggest playerbase, Switch users