I'm on my 4th mustang. I now have a 2020 Mustang GT pp1 mt82. I'm not impressed with the transmission but hopefully a mgw will make it much better. I've never really cared about how a car handled until I drove this. I took a corner the fastest I've ever went and from that moment I knew I wanted to track it. I'm thinking about a hdpe sometime this summer. After wheels, tires, boost and few odds and ends I'll have a badass street car to have fun with.
Recently picked up a new 22 Grabber Blue CS/GT with the 10-speed. Would of gotton it in manual if a Tremac was available. I didn't want to spend another $11k on the Mach 1 to get one. CS/GT looks quite different than any Ecoboost. Panel gaps are pretty good on mine. I think it was built late on a Friday afternoon...haha...!!! Still breaking it in, but love the interior features. It's a cool cruiser. My 6-speed Scat Pack was rewarding, but always work. Toying with the idea of supercharging via LFP/ROUSH. Time will tell. Great video, X...!!!
He’s right about the body gaps for American muscle, you just accept it. I have an 08 Mercedes and a 2020 2SS, and the Mercedes has more consistent body work
Yeah. That’s completely not a fact that the gen 3 at the very least has OPG issues. Lastly the MT82D4 is more stout than the GT350 and Mach1 tremec especially when it comes to boost and what it can take. It amazes me when people just say “hear say” things with little to no experience.
I had my 2019 mustang gt with the performance pack for about 2 years now and I just put 30000 miles on it really fun to drive In the nice Midwest open roads.
Body panel issues need to be addressed before taking delivery of a new vehicle or immediately thereafter body panel alignment is an issue that can be addressed under factory warranty.
@@terrellandquezreacts2803 ok. You are wrong it depends on the trim but the pony is always there. My 2015 ecoboost had a completely flat grill but my 2017 ecoboost had the side triangles like my 2019 GT has. You could also get the billet grill with the box around the pony and the line to either side and there was a trim offered with the triple stripe pony offset to one side of the grill but there is always a 5.0 and a large GT on the trunk of a GT.
Turbo's can be tricky to build boost off the line. My bolt 10r80 full weight cut 1.6 60fts no reason and now with ESS supercharger I'm in the 1.5's. Look at the boost gauge next time when leaving off the line try to get to at least 2 psi.
@@thereissomecoolstuff With the right blower they slap but you're better off with a Centri or a turbo to really emphasize the top end power, the Coyote is a much better engine that the LT1 and 6.4 mod wise and power for dollar wise.
Not really about the push rods vs dohc in the instance of torque, it's more about the displacement. Now you can argue that the packaging differences are what allows for the greater displacement, but I'm more than positive that a 5.7 dohc or 6.4 dohc V8 would be just as punchy as a push rod equivalent but would need a ton of space lol.
@@728GT 800+ hp on boosted stock coyotes. These are the best engines for the money. I'm going to try pushrods for a bit. I have a new C8. If one of those pushrods end up my ass I'll let you know. The engine is in my hip pocket.
Hey racer X not sure if you’ll see this but hellhorse performance sells a digital dash conversion kit for about 2k and you can get the 401A/gt500 digital dash and swap it in
Honestly man I am so impressed, this is probably truly the best video out I have ever seen on a car review because of the fact that you explain so much from experience on this chassis, I was expecting a lame video full of nit picky shit like interior crap or i dont know how everyone hates on mustang owners lol, amazing review
You were a little hard on the car for cons. I have a 17 GT Making 611 wheel. The stock MT82 and stock axles are holding up great. You mention the oil pump gears which is definitely overblown on the Internet. The HEMI 5.7 and 6.4 don’t do well with boost unless you throw pistons and rods in them. Suddenly the oil pump gears aren’t so bad. Lund racing says the GT350 / Mach 1 Tremec is inferior to the MT82.
I love how you didn't sway me in any direction before choosing my Charger Scat Pack!!! We don't have enough videos that are open minded, positive, and honest!!! You come to FT Hood and beers are on me!!!!
When I hit a time in my life when I wanted to treat myself to a new American " muscle car" Word of mouth was" stay away from Mopar because of various electrical problems. I was also told to stay away from Ford because many people kept putting the company down. Made up my mind I was going to the Chevy dealer and wanted a new Z-28 in black. Dealership told me they had one so I drove there ready to get one. I waited for the salesman to have a discussion and after about 30 minutes they pulled up with a blue 6 cylinder Camaro. Told them why I was there. They told me 2003 was the last year for the Z-28 and I should take it for a ride. I drove it but I had the money and wanted that V-8 bad. They told me to come back tomorrow and they will have one. The next day they had a red one. Okay took it out on the highway and scared the salesman to death. Number one it was Red, wrong color. Secondly the front end had a bad Shake that I'm sure was just something basic like a wheel balance, the driver's-side window was not working properly this completely turned me off to buying this car. On the way home I passed a Ford dealer went in and they had wall to wall Mustang's. I ended up with a 2003 Black Cobra. I drove that car like a crazy man for 3 years and sold it. Never had one problem with that car. Considering I drove it extremely hard. In the time I owned it I needed new tires in the rear a few times from the nonstop burnouts. I miss that car to this day. When I came home from work without it my son did not hear me pull into the driveway. He was actually in tears when I told him its gone. When my son came of age I got him a brand new Hyundai Tiburon 5 speed loaded. He drove it and told me it was to slow. I wanted to kill him as nobody ever got me a car never mind a new one. Told him when you get a job when you get out of school feel free to trade it in for what ever you want it's yours. Four years later when he graduated college getting his first job the first thing he did was trading in the Tiburon for a California series Mustang. He did it and he still has it. Put a lot of work into it. Long story, No charge. 👍🏻
@@nikm4253 I could have kept it but I was persuaded to get rid of it. At that time the wife wanted a new car. She always got leftovers so she deserved one. Also promised to get my 2 children cars. It was time to split things 4 ways and not just think about me. That's what happened. I really miss that car. I'm driving a new Honda Accord. Basic transportation 🥺
Love your honesty about your likes and dislikes. I totally agree with you especially about the dislikes. The manual transmission is the reason I traded of my GT. My GT350 was awesome. Thank you for your videos.
@@gummybear41283 Performance Pack level 1 has race track suspension, springs, 3:55 IRS, GT trunk spoiler, Front air dam lip all with Coyote 5.0 V8.. PP2 has Magnaride suspension and a bigger front lip spoiler.. All these are Premium Mustangs..Big infotainment systems..Leather seats..some have racing seats optional
I wonder why do we see the Mustang getting such a bad rep as a machine that's constantly losing traction and eating pedestrians and light poles for breakfast? Is it the car or the drivers?
Man iv been following you for long time iv been a stang man sence 69 but now they a dime a dozen not throwing off on your car never do that but I like the Mopar better not many people have them I used to love the pony but not now Mopar and c8 thNk you brother
I agree. Lots of mustangs out there. Just sold mine and jumped on the CGreat team. The new Vette for the price of a mustang gt premium is a better car.
@@thereissomecoolstuff at that price point, I’d take the C8 as well, hard to beat that much performance especially if you’re just keeping it close to stock. If I were building a racecar, it’d be a GT though.
@@169abr I agree. I made one. '18 Whipple steeda comp suspension. Upgraded tires and wheels. I wanted a round course car. It was 660 hp at the wheels. A10. The suspension took it way beyond. I couldn't drive it to the point of failure. A base GT and all the trimmings I was under $50k. My perfect car would be a stock gen 3 convertible mustang. The C8 is funny. I only have 250 miles on mine. It isn't as comfortable as the GT. I am still getting used to it. We are at the end of the ice age. Mad Max times are coming.
Completely agree about the lack of differentiation between the EcoBoost's and the GT's. Here in SoCal the Ecoboost's are everywhere and it annoys me they look exactly like my GT haha! I kind of wish Ford never made the EcoBoost as a Mustang and instead used that tech to make something like a Ford Fusion GT, and kept the Mustangs a V8 (or higher) platform.
Your audio has been sounding weird in your car recently. Also just about everything you mentioned is how I feel about my New Mustang GT, the 10 speed is always working and it’s something to get used to 😂. You’re the reason I went ahead and got one instead of a charger scat pack (even though it’s a great car too) keep the videos coming 💪🏼
I agree with your pro and cons I enjoy my manual because I don’t race it’s fun to drive has the top end power on the highway and the power to give you whiplash in the city lol
I unsubscribed when I saw that you got rid of your Hellcat. I resubscribed when I heard that you had just ordered a new Dodge. Waiting to hear what you ordered. Sincerely, a Hellcat owner.
I'm curious what your gear ratio your running. Normally a unless ordered. It's a 3:15. Ford options 3:55 & 3:73. If you have 3:15 gears (Installed for EPA regulations). Add one of the optional gears which should help with your low end.
I know it doesn't stand out like you mentioned but for me with how I differentiate between a gt and an eco is by looking at the grille. The eco has very large honeycomb and has two plastic beams behind it in each corner and it's a plastic material, where as the gt is that tighter honeycomb with the diagonal bars in the corners and they're generally painted and look less cheap.
You should have had that Hellion twin turbo to a Hellcat leave the supercharger on connect the flow from the turbos after you do an upgrade to the suspension 7-second car but you put it on a Mustang that's something that donut maker does not do
Spot on with your pros and cons. After 4 of them the manual transmission are crap, be careful with that 10speed have a couple of friends who had to do the t400 transmission because the 10speed kept messing up with a lot of power. but the mustang is the easiest to get hp from mods from and cheapest to go fast.
Low end punch > super charge it! Oil pump gears> > ben running my 670 hp since 2015 no problems Axels > GT 350 half shafts your good to go. Panel gaps > my 2015 is dam near perfect! 6 speed trans > mine has the correct ratios that the newer ones don't have but 3 rd. gear is sometimes hard to find. Mine is a Roush RS2 phase 1 and it looks like no other Mustang with a completely different front end and the PP1 with the boost gage in the dash, priceless.
Great video, I have a 2020 PP2 and the transmission is definitely not the greatest but I love the car so much. Very fun to drive and so much grip! Not really a drag guy but track mode in the georgia mountains is a blast!!
@@AB-coyote I am only 10k on it and I just meant not the best in comparison to the GT350 I drove last year. But does Trans fluid make that bug a difference?! If so what do you use?
Right now I’m using Amsoil MTG GL4 75w90. It’s what Ben Calimer Recommends. I’ve only put about 200 miles on it. This is a thicker fluid than what they come with but so far I think I like it the best and it’s cool in GA currently. It will be even better in the warm months. I’ve also used the BG fluid and that worked fine too. But overall I don’t think the fluid will make a big difference in shift quality but I do think the Amsoil is the best choice as far as protection goes.
Caught me off guard with your live, was sleeping 😴. I just saw it on replay and I am will to pay anything for a subscription if you decide on it. You are owed something for all the free videos I've been watching for years and would love to help support your channel
I've had my 2020 Mustang GT with the PP1 and the Manual for a Spring and Summer. I put 3000 miles on the car and I want to say that at 69 it's the most fun I could have with my clothes on. Sure, it sucks gas like a sump pump in a torrential rain, and the manual is a little notchy, but when those Summer tires hook up it goes like a MF'er and sounds the part.
The oil pump gears break only when morons hammer the car into the rev limiter in the burnout box, I’ve never seen a person who knows how to drag race have an issue Next, Your cars TT charged so of course u need a converter, it doesn't spool quickly. Now put a stop the hop kit in a 10sp GT with a Whipple at say 10lbs and a Lund tune. It will runs 10.40’s at 135, add E85 and it runs into the 9’s on the stock verter Mopars are awesome and very torquey and at the track rental we had I watched a few pretty stock 392’s go 11.7 which to me was impressive and Hellcats, Redeyes go mid to low 10’s on a paper tag with a tire. They were impressive and very comfortable but once u start modding, the Ford is King The Camaro is a lost cause, and I’m a GM guy although the 10sp in the Camaro is better unit vs the Mustang as far as strength and how it drives but they are essentially the same trans
Just another great one buddy, the cons are for sure valid ones, the worst is the stupid prop rod on the mustangs going way back, and the manual trans are pretty poor for the GT models, and agree with you on the love points are all really good points for the Mustangs.
Hey racer x I would have to agree with you on most of those points the Gap really does not really bother me that much but everything else does I mean I feel that if you're spending that type of money for a car you at least you get a little bit more those oil pump gears I think they really need to put some stronger ones in there because like you say you have to tell the whole front of the motor just to do that I would have to agree with everything you said like I said except for the gaps that doesn't really bother me at all but good video race x
A note on OPG's, people only break them because they either bang off 2-Step all the time or some form of limiter and it rattles the fuck outta them and they break but if you don't slam limiter you'll be fine stock OPG for a very long time. Plenty of cars stock motor to prove it, and if you're building a turbo car you're gonna upgrade them anyways. The biggest issue FOR SURE is the MT82 gearing on 3rd Gen cars, they really screwed it up there.
Tbh, if you're going with a true sleeper look, I would say the slicks kinda ruin it. Ppl will know you're car is far from stock and expect it to fly. Whereas if you just put on some good wide street tires ppl will be taken aback when it pulls fast af.
I just can't get down with the s550's europeanish styling.. If they took a page out of the 69-70 mustangs they would sell even more and I'd prob have one in my driveway.
I bought a performance pack 2 and don’t regret it one bit. Track mode and a bit higher rpms at launch give me great punch off the line vs my last 2018 mustang that didn’t have the drive modes. It’s a noticeable difference. And I wouldn’t change having a 6 speed for anything.
Happily subbed and love the content. Can’t wait to see you back in the MOPAR! Can you do a quick video on the E85 setup and how it’s so different? If you have already I’ll search the video history. Thanks for all you do.
I've owned several Mustangs and Camaros over the years. Currently I own a 20 Mustang GT Premium with the 10spd auto. I love mine, But I have to say ingress and egress are getting kinda tough for me now that I'm getting old. LOL. I have the same problem with the newer Camaros, The Mopars aren't quite as hard to get in and out of.
Nice video Bro. I agree with you, but certain negatives don't bother me as much, and others I overcame. I don't like the MT-82 Manual either. It pisses me off that Ford would do that to the GT. But, I made mine MUCH better by changing out the stock clutch assist spring with a Steeda Performance Clutch Assist Spring. It feels a lot different than stock and you can engage better and faster. You're used to cars with some of the best low end punch on the planet, but the stock Low End punch is still good in a GT. 420 lb ft is impressive against MOST other cars. Yeah, the stock Scat has more low end punch and will get off the line faster, but I will catch him in a second as he levels out and my high end keeps increasing. His additional weight isn't doing him any favors. I don't race anymore, or near as much as you do, but that's how it went down all three times I raced a Scat Pack. Back to the Mustang, another way to tell the EcoBoost from the GT, at least from 2018 and later, is the GT has quad exhausts, and it's still dual for the EcoBoost. Also, yeah Digital Dash would have been cool, but I don't care about the other Premium options. BTW, my dash is set up like yours. :)
The V8 stands out because it sounds incredible, much different then the Ecoboost. Gaps are minor and never cared about that or even thought about it until I watched a UTube video. Basic ally the GT Mustang is a real fun car to drive and a great value. However they are now getting expensive in the higher optioned trims. Get the base V8, enjoy the power, sound and cool 😎 look.
My 2016 GT Premium 6R80 has rev matching so it makes the car a bit more fun to drive. Plus sport/track/sport + modes really liven up the car. Sport mode in my 2015 escape is a joke. In the GT, it becomes a growling monster, and much more responsive.
RacerX what is your size on the front tire&rim and the rear also. Great point for a new buyer that is not sure which brand of muscle car he is looking for.😎👏👍💪
With a Mustang you need a torque converter. I added one to my V6 Mustang and it makes a big difference even though it's only a 3200 stall. My 60 foot went from 2.00 give or take a couple hundredths to 1.7s. If you think a GT has no torque, the 6 cylinder is far worse out of the hole. My car is Procharged and is competitive with stock Scat Packs, Mustang GTs, and Camaro SSs. For every tenth you lower the 60 foot, the ET is affected by about double that amount. By knocking the 60 foot a couple tenths, I was able to go from 12.2s to 11.8s. There is a big difference between the auto and a manual Mustang GT. Even if you buy an older Mustang GT that has the 6R80, the auto is far superior to the manual. There is even a bigger difference with the 10 speed. I know that from experience. Stock manual Mustang GTs, Camaro SSs, and Scat Packs will run around 12.3 give or take. Put an auto version of any of these cars and they'll run 11s.
I would love to see you review the mustangs 10speed counter part, the camaro, a bit more torquey and only 5 horsepower short of the mustang. I'm really curious on modability for the camaro as well!
What're your thoughts on the mach-e? Do you think it diminishes the mustang name? Personally it was a dealbreaker for me. I nearly put down the money for a 2021 GT until I saw the Mach-e driving around, i just couldn't deal with a soccermom-mobile having the same badging as my sportscar, but to each his own. So now funnily enough i'm a MOPAR guy
The Mustang is a cool car but it does not look like a muscle car at all, it has a pure sports car look to me. My SP challenger is gonna be ready by christmas goodbye to the R/T
The challenger/charger are inferior to the mustang. Scat pack is $50k+ and mustang is under $40k and beats the challenger by half a second in 0-60. Just too heavy and that huge 6.4 liter engine doesn't have that great of horsepower to liter ratio. Not to mention the challenger has looked basically the same for the last 13 years.
Good evening RacerX great video. I was wondering if you could possibly cover general maintenance costs/ cost of ownership between the Mustang and Mopar equivalent ?
I have a '17 Gen II in Grabber Blue here in the UK. The only thing I hate about it is the UK Dealer network.. at least local to where I live.
I love the paint job
Love your channel champ. I hate I have to but I’m deciding between a mustang and charger. Your videos are helping a bunch.
High School Car bro.
Racer❌.ftw!
I have a 65 gt and a 66 restomod. My biggest complaint would be that no full size adult is fitting in the back seat.
Great video
I'm on my 4th mustang. I now have a 2020 Mustang GT pp1 mt82. I'm not impressed with the transmission but hopefully a mgw will make it much better. I've never really cared about how a car handled until I drove this. I took a corner the fastest I've ever went and from that moment I knew I wanted to track it. I'm thinking about a hdpe sometime this summer. After wheels, tires, boost and few odds and ends I'll have a badass street car to have fun with.
Subbed, no other content like this other than one other I wont mention. But love it and Thanks for sharing your brain with us :D
Have a PP2 and love the manual. Auto is boring to me... but I'm not in to going in straight line's down a track...love to twist and turn(PP2)
Good job.
Recently picked up a new 22 Grabber Blue CS/GT with the 10-speed. Would of gotton it in manual if a Tremac was available. I didn't want to spend another $11k on the Mach 1 to get one. CS/GT looks quite different than any Ecoboost. Panel gaps are pretty good on mine. I think it was built late on a Friday afternoon...haha...!!! Still breaking it in, but love the interior features. It's a cool cruiser. My 6-speed Scat Pack was rewarding, but always work. Toying with the idea of supercharging via LFP/ROUSH. Time will tell. Great video, X...!!!
I actually like prop rods,guess gota keep something old school
I like my 6 speed. Fun to drive
Where is the Dodhe?
Dodge
Love how honest you are on your videos
He’s right about the body gaps for American muscle, you just accept it. I have an 08 Mercedes and a 2020 2SS, and the Mercedes has more consistent body work
Been having a 2017 for years now and the mt82 been good I drive my stang hard it’s been solid driving a muscle car auto sucks
What happened to the blue mustang with the red seats?
Yeah. That’s completely not a fact that the gen 3 at the very least has OPG issues. Lastly the MT82D4 is more stout than the GT350 and Mach1 tremec especially when it comes to boost and what it can take. It amazes me when people just say “hear say” things with little to no experience.
I had my 2019 mustang gt with the performance pack for about 2 years now and I just put 30000 miles on it really fun to drive In the nice Midwest open roads.
Lmbo...you said the 6 speed is significantly slower than the automatic...bro you haven't raced much.
Body panel issues need to be addressed before taking delivery of a new vehicle or immediately thereafter body panel alignment is an issue that can be addressed under factory warranty.
I agree my 2019 has great panel gaps. They are tight. I have seen some loose ones though LOL
My 2018 has a terrible gap where the rear passenger fender and bumper meet, its a loose screw but the whole piece to keep them together needs replaced
STANG MODE broken good 60fts plenty of times in a stock 5.0. The Shelby 350 half shafts helps out.
Thiers gone be less horsepower on the 2022 model? I didn't know that so is that gonna make a big difference like make it slower than the older models?
Con 5c: the trash can lid engine cover?
You can tell the difference between a gt and ecoboost by the front grill.
No they all have pony on the front grill unless you order a special trim
I always thought the huge GT on the trunk was sufficient
@@erikfritts8240 GTs have a V shape in the grille. Ecoboosts don't, it's a solid grille pattern (which imo, looks better)
Erik Fritts duhh I’m not talkin about the pony logo it’s the shape of the grill it has a rtr style grill but without the lights
@@terrellandquezreacts2803 ok. You are wrong it depends on the trim but the pony is always there. My 2015 ecoboost had a completely flat grill but my 2017 ecoboost had the side triangles like my 2019 GT has. You could also get the billet grill with the box around the pony and the line to either side and there was a trim offered with the triple stripe pony offset to one side of the grill but there is always a 5.0 and a large GT on the trunk of a GT.
Turbo's can be tricky to build boost off the line. My bolt 10r80 full weight cut 1.6 60fts no reason and now with ESS supercharger I'm in the 1.5's. Look at the boost gauge next time when leaving off the line try to get to at least 2 psi.
Racer X in the house! I think It's hard to beat that low-end punch of a push rod engine with a supercharger!
What? The mustang dohc engine kills the pushrods especially with a supercharger.
@@thereissomecoolstuff Not really.
@@thereissomecoolstuff With the right blower they slap but you're better off with a Centri or a turbo to really emphasize the top end power, the Coyote is a much better engine that the LT1 and 6.4 mod wise and power for dollar wise.
Not really about the push rods vs dohc in the instance of torque, it's more about the displacement. Now you can argue that the packaging differences are what allows for the greater displacement, but I'm more than positive that a 5.7 dohc or 6.4 dohc V8 would be just as punchy as a push rod equivalent but would need a ton of space lol.
@@728GT 800+ hp on boosted stock coyotes. These are the best engines for the money. I'm going to try pushrods for a bit. I have a new C8. If one of those pushrods end up my ass I'll let you know. The engine is in my hip pocket.
Hey racer X not sure if you’ll see this but hellhorse performance sells a digital dash conversion kit for about 2k and you can get the 401A/gt500 digital dash and swap it in
Honestly man I am so impressed, this is probably truly the best video out I have ever seen on a car review because of the fact that you explain so much from experience on this chassis, I was expecting a lame video full of nit picky shit like interior crap or i dont know how everyone hates on mustang owners lol, amazing review
You were a little hard on the car for cons.
I have a 17 GT Making 611 wheel. The stock MT82 and stock axles are holding up great.
You mention the oil pump gears which is definitely overblown on the Internet. The HEMI 5.7 and 6.4 don’t do well with boost unless you throw pistons and rods in them. Suddenly the oil pump gears aren’t so bad.
Lund racing says the GT350 / Mach 1 Tremec is inferior to the MT82.
#5 it is not a mopar #4 it is not a mopar # 3 it is not a mopar # 2 it is not a mopar and # 1 reason that I hate my mustang it is not a mopar
Twin turbo Scatpack 1320 or Hellcat, which is better in your opinion?
I love how you didn't sway me in any direction before choosing my Charger Scat Pack!!! We don't have enough videos that are open minded, positive, and honest!!! You come to FT Hood and beers are on me!!!!
Thank you my friend
I’m stuck between a mustang 5.0 or camaro 2ss thanks for the video helped a lot
Tremec is better manual for a Mustang
When I hit a time in my life when I wanted to treat myself to a new American " muscle car" Word of mouth was" stay away from Mopar because of various electrical problems.
I was also told to stay away from Ford because many people kept putting the company down.
Made up my mind I was going to the Chevy dealer and wanted a new Z-28 in black.
Dealership told me they had one so I drove there ready to get one.
I waited for the salesman to have a discussion and after about 30 minutes they pulled up with a blue 6 cylinder Camaro.
Told them why I was there. They told me 2003 was the last year for the Z-28 and I should take it for a ride.
I drove it but I had the money and wanted that V-8 bad.
They told me to come back tomorrow and they will have one.
The next day they had a red one. Okay took it out on the highway and scared the salesman to death.
Number one it was Red, wrong color. Secondly the front end had a bad Shake that I'm sure was just something basic like a wheel balance, the driver's-side window was not working properly this completely turned me off to buying this car.
On the way home I passed a Ford dealer went in and they had wall to wall Mustang's.
I ended up with a 2003 Black Cobra.
I drove that car like a crazy man for 3 years and sold it.
Never had one problem with that car. Considering I drove it extremely hard. In the time I owned it I needed new tires in the rear a few times from the nonstop burnouts. I miss that car to this day.
When I came home from work without it my son did not hear me pull into the driveway. He was actually in tears when I told him its gone.
When my son came of age I got him a brand new Hyundai Tiburon 5 speed loaded. He drove it and told me it was to slow. I wanted to kill him as nobody ever got me a car never mind a new one. Told him when you get a job when you get out of school feel free to trade it in for what ever you want it's yours. Four years later when he graduated college getting his first job the first thing he did was trading in the Tiburon for a California series Mustang. He did it and he still has it.
Put a lot of work into it. Long story,
No charge. 👍🏻
Great stuff.. gotta work for the things you love
03/04 Cobras are sick cars man. Too bad you had to sell it.
@@nikm4253
I could have kept it but
I was persuaded to get rid of it.
At that time the wife wanted a new car. She always got leftovers so she deserved one. Also promised to get my 2 children cars.
It was time to split things 4 ways and not just think about me. That's what happened. I really miss that car.
I'm driving a new Honda Accord. Basic transportation 🥺
Gotta love those v8's. That low end torque never gets old
@Whasa Matta I don’t think they got to that point in the video yet.
Love your honesty about your likes and dislikes. I totally agree with you especially about the dislikes. The manual transmission is the reason I traded of my GT. My GT350 was awesome. Thank you for your videos.
Absolutely
I totally love the 10R80 my Kona Blue 2019 Ford Mystang GT PP1 has..No issues..It just RIPS!!
@@flfun1684 whats PP1
@@gummybear41283 Performance Pack level 1 has race track suspension, springs, 3:55 IRS, GT trunk spoiler, Front air dam lip all with Coyote 5.0 V8.. PP2 has Magnaride suspension and a bigger front lip spoiler.. All these are Premium Mustangs..Big infotainment systems..Leather seats..some have racing seats optional
That mustang is looking mean 🚗💨🔥
Thanks buddy
I wonder why do we see the Mustang getting such a bad rep as a machine that's constantly losing traction and eating pedestrians and light poles for breakfast? Is it the car or the drivers?
Man iv been following you for long time iv been a stang man sence 69 but now they a dime a dozen not throwing off on your car never do that but I like the Mopar better not many people have them I used to love the pony but not now
Mopar and c8 thNk you brother
I agree. Lots of mustangs out there. Just sold mine and jumped on the CGreat team. The new Vette for the price of a mustang gt premium is a better car.
@@thereissomecoolstuff you got a C8 for 54k?
@@169abr got one for $61 same as a bullet
@@thereissomecoolstuff at that price point, I’d take the C8 as well, hard to beat that much performance especially if you’re just keeping it close to stock. If I were building a racecar, it’d be a GT though.
@@169abr I agree. I made one. '18 Whipple steeda comp suspension. Upgraded tires and wheels. I wanted a round course car. It was 660 hp at the wheels. A10. The suspension took it way beyond. I couldn't drive it to the point of failure. A base GT and all the trimmings I was under $50k. My perfect car would be a stock gen 3 convertible mustang. The C8 is funny. I only have 250 miles on mine. It isn't as comfortable as the GT. I am still getting used to it. We are at the end of the ice age. Mad Max times are coming.
Completely agree about the lack of differentiation between the EcoBoost's and the GT's. Here in SoCal the Ecoboost's are everywhere and it annoys me they look exactly like my GT haha! I kind of wish Ford never made the EcoBoost as a Mustang and instead used that tech to make something like a Ford Fusion GT, and kept the Mustangs a V8 (or higher) platform.
Your audio has been sounding weird in your car recently. Also just about everything you mentioned is how I feel about my New Mustang GT, the 10 speed is always working and it’s something to get used to 😂. You’re the reason I went ahead and got one instead of a charger scat pack (even though it’s a great car too) keep the videos coming 💪🏼
I agree with your pro and cons I enjoy my manual because I don’t race it’s fun to drive has the top end power on the highway and the power to give you whiplash in the city lol
I unsubscribed when I saw that you got rid of your Hellcat. I resubscribed when I heard that you had just ordered a new Dodge. Waiting to hear what you ordered.
Sincerely, a Hellcat owner.
The stang is looking great X
Thanks buddy
I'm curious what your gear ratio your running. Normally a unless ordered. It's a 3:15. Ford options 3:55 & 3:73. If you have 3:15 gears (Installed for EPA regulations). Add one of the optional gears which should help with your low end.
Thanks for uploading both in one video, it’s very refreshing! 💯
RX pull that hood insulation...Helps with the cooling and IAT Temps.
He doesn't want to hear the Coyote tick lol
That front wheel gap is atrocious.
I like mustangs but the interior is just bad and cheap lookin, love the digital dash buts that’s it
I know it doesn't stand out like you mentioned but for me with how I differentiate between a gt and an eco is by looking at the grille. The eco has very large honeycomb and has two plastic beams behind it in each corner and it's a plastic material, where as the gt is that tighter honeycomb with the diagonal bars in the corners and they're generally painted and look less cheap.
You should have had that Hellion twin turbo to a Hellcat leave the supercharger on connect the flow from the turbos after you do an upgrade to the suspension 7-second car but you put it on a Mustang that's something that donut maker does not do
Spot on with your pros and cons. After 4 of them the manual transmission are crap, be careful with that 10speed have a couple of friends who had to do the t400 transmission because the 10speed kept messing up with a lot of power. but the mustang is the easiest to get hp from mods from and cheapest to go fast.
6R80 > 10R80 for power above 700whp
So the 10 speed transmissions makes the mustang.
I guess dodge should of done the same
I have built mt82 and it's amazing
Mustangs are about being cheap and quick. That’s why they all look identical and feel cheaply made, it’s a quantity vs quality thing.
Awesome content as always
Wow...thought for sure that you were a Mopar guy for sure. I was surprised to see this.
Low end punch > super charge it!
Oil pump gears> > ben running my 670 hp since 2015 no problems
Axels > GT 350 half shafts your good to go.
Panel gaps > my 2015 is dam near perfect!
6 speed trans > mine has the correct ratios that the newer ones don't have but 3 rd. gear is sometimes hard to find.
Mine is a Roush RS2 phase 1 and it looks like no other Mustang with a completely different front end and the PP1 with the boost gage in the dash, priceless.
Man mustangs are growing on me. I must be sick.
Great video, I have a 2020 PP2 and the transmission is definitely not the greatest but I love the car so much. Very fun to drive and so much grip! Not really a drag guy but track mode in the georgia mountains is a blast!!
Are you still using the OEM trans fluid?
@@AB-coyote I am only 10k on it and I just meant not the best in comparison to the GT350 I drove last year. But does Trans fluid make that bug a difference?! If so what do you use?
Right now I’m using Amsoil MTG GL4 75w90. It’s what Ben Calimer Recommends. I’ve only put about 200 miles on it. This is a thicker fluid than what they come with but so far I think I like it the best and it’s cool in GA currently. It will be even better in the warm months.
I’ve also used the BG fluid and that worked fine too. But overall I don’t think the fluid will make a big difference in shift quality but I do think the Amsoil is the best choice as far as protection goes.
Caught me off guard with your live, was sleeping 😴. I just saw it on replay and I am will to pay anything for a subscription if you decide on it. You are owed something for all the free videos I've been watching for years and would love to help support your channel
I've had my 2020 Mustang GT with the PP1 and the Manual for a Spring and Summer. I put 3000 miles on the car and I want to say that at 69 it's the most fun I could have with my clothes on. Sure, it sucks gas like a sump pump in a torrential rain, and the manual is a little notchy, but when those Summer tires hook up it goes like a MF'er and sounds the part.
The oil pump gears break only when morons hammer the car into the rev limiter in the burnout box, I’ve never seen a person who knows how to drag race have an issue
Next, Your cars TT charged so of course u need a converter, it doesn't spool quickly.
Now put a stop the hop kit in a 10sp GT with a Whipple at say 10lbs and a Lund tune.
It will runs 10.40’s at 135, add E85 and it runs into the 9’s on the stock verter
Mopars are awesome and very torquey and at the track rental we had I watched a few pretty stock 392’s go 11.7 which to me was impressive and Hellcats, Redeyes go mid to low 10’s on a paper tag with a tire. They were impressive and very comfortable but once u start modding, the Ford is King
The Camaro is a lost cause, and I’m a GM guy although the 10sp in the Camaro is better unit vs the Mustang as far as strength and how it drives but they are essentially the same trans
Just another great one buddy, the cons are for sure valid ones, the worst is the stupid prop rod on the mustangs going way back, and the manual trans are pretty poor for the GT models,
and agree with you on the love points are all really good points for the Mustangs.
Awesome content buddy 👍💪
Thank you Chad
Who the he’ll it’s not subscribing? It’s free man
Yo mom
Hey racer x I would have to agree with you on most of those points the Gap really does not really bother me that much but everything else does I mean I feel that if you're spending that type of money for a car you at least you get a little bit more those oil pump gears I think they really need to put some stronger ones in there because like you say you have to tell the whole front of the motor just to do that I would have to agree with everything you said like I said except for the gaps that doesn't really bother me at all but good video race x
Racer x will you do bolts on , on this car ? Imagen how fast this car would be !
His car is twin turbo it went 10.08 at 149 mph!!
Another reason to like it is safety. I mean, blue Mustang.
Great point brother
It handles great, sports car.
Stock is not the fastest, great to mod.
A note on OPG's, people only break them because they either bang off 2-Step all the time or some form of limiter and it rattles the fuck outta them and they break but if you don't slam limiter you'll be fine stock OPG for a very long time. Plenty of cars stock motor to prove it, and if you're building a turbo car you're gonna upgrade them anyways. The biggest issue FOR SURE is the MT82 gearing on 3rd Gen cars, they really screwed it up there.
Glad that you are enjoying your Mustang. Please buy a new Challenger. LOL. Thanks for the video.
MoPar or no Car
Tbh, if you're going with a true sleeper look, I would say the slicks kinda ruin it. Ppl will know you're car is far from stock and expect it to fly. Whereas if you just put on some good wide street tires ppl will be taken aback when it pulls fast af.
I just can't get down with the s550's europeanish styling.. If they took a page out of the 69-70 mustangs they would sell even more and I'd prob have one in my driveway.
15-17’s look way better than the 18’s to me personally, but the S197 13-14’s are probably still the most “Mustang”
Great video bro
Ford's 6speed is why I went wit the LT1 Camaro. Just didn't like the feel of it.
They're junk unless you get a built one, I went auto cause of the Coyote but Chevy has the stick game locked down.
@@169abr whats wrong with the Ford manual??
@@gummybear41283 gen 3’s get the worst gear, with 2 overdrives. Gen 1 and Gen 2 bend shift forks and destroy synchros
I bought a performance pack 2 and don’t regret it one bit. Track mode and a bit higher rpms at launch give me great punch off the line vs my last 2018 mustang that didn’t have the drive modes. It’s a noticeable difference. And I wouldn’t change having a 6 speed for anything.
Happily subbed and love the content. Can’t wait to see you back in the MOPAR! Can you do a quick video on the E85 setup and how it’s so different? If you have already I’ll search the video history. Thanks for all you do.
For sure my friend
All you need for E on these cars is a return style fuel system, injectors, and a tune.
For 2018 and up mustangs naturally aspirated All you need is a e85 tune
Everything will even out once your new Mopar comes in 🤪
I've owned several Mustangs and Camaros over the years. Currently I own a 20 Mustang GT Premium with the 10spd auto. I love mine, But I have to say ingress and egress are getting kinda tough for me now that I'm getting old. LOL. I have the same problem with the newer Camaros, The Mopars aren't quite as hard to get in and out of.
Nice video Bro. I agree with you, but certain negatives don't bother me as much, and others I overcame. I don't like the MT-82 Manual either. It pisses me off that Ford would do that to the GT. But, I made mine MUCH better by changing out the stock clutch assist spring with a Steeda Performance Clutch Assist Spring. It feels a lot different than stock and you can engage better and faster. You're used to cars with some of the best low end punch on the planet, but the stock Low End punch is still good in a GT. 420 lb ft is impressive against MOST other cars. Yeah, the stock Scat has more low end punch and will get off the line faster, but I will catch him in a second as he levels out and my high end keeps increasing. His additional weight isn't doing him any favors. I don't race anymore, or near as much as you do, but that's how it went down all three times I raced a Scat Pack. Back to the Mustang, another way to tell the EcoBoost from the GT, at least from 2018 and later, is the GT has quad exhausts, and it's still dual for the EcoBoost. Also, yeah Digital Dash would have been cool, but I don't care about the other Premium options. BTW, my dash is set up like yours. :)
You may have mentioned it before, but why did you go with a Mustang instead of a Camaro?
The V8 stands out because it sounds incredible, much different then the Ecoboost. Gaps are minor and never cared about that or even thought about it until I watched a UTube video. Basic ally the GT Mustang is a real fun car to drive and a great value. However they are now getting expensive in the higher optioned trims. Get the base V8, enjoy the power, sound and cool 😎 look.
My 2016 GT Premium 6R80 has rev matching so it makes the car a bit more fun to drive. Plus sport/track/sport + modes really liven up the car. Sport mode in my 2015 escape is a joke. In the GT, it becomes a growling monster, and much more responsive.
Love it or hate it, it's cheap for a reason lol.
Im fine with my panel gaps and hood flutter is what I tell myself... 😂
It is Ford at the end of the day, most people forget that lol
Haha.. its just part of the stang experience
I am not gona donations cause I don't want it to go to more dope
RacerX what is your size on the front tire&rim and the rear also. Great point for a new buyer that is not sure which brand of muscle car he is looking for.😎👏👍💪
Sorry RacerX I didn’t have the size of the wheels& tire front and back.
Shhh, in my neighborhood that is all you see are mopars. Challengers and Chargers are the "Me too" car of my area.
With a Mustang you need a torque converter. I added one to my V6 Mustang and it makes a big difference even though it's only a 3200 stall. My 60 foot went from 2.00 give or take a couple hundredths to 1.7s. If you think a GT has no torque, the 6 cylinder is far worse out of the hole. My car is Procharged and is competitive with stock Scat Packs, Mustang GTs, and Camaro SSs. For every tenth you lower the 60 foot, the ET is affected by about double that amount. By knocking the 60 foot a couple tenths, I was able to go from 12.2s to 11.8s. There is a big difference between the auto and a manual Mustang GT. Even if you buy an older Mustang GT that has the 6R80, the auto is far superior to the manual. There is even a bigger difference with the 10 speed. I know that from experience. Stock manual Mustang GTs, Camaro SSs, and Scat Packs will run around 12.3 give or take. Put an auto version of any of these cars and they'll run 11s.
I would love to see you review the mustangs 10speed counter part, the camaro, a bit more torquey and only 5 horsepower short of the mustang. I'm really curious on modability for the camaro as well!
What're your thoughts on the mach-e? Do you think it diminishes the mustang name?
Personally it was a dealbreaker for me. I nearly put down the money for a 2021 GT until I saw the Mach-e driving around, i just couldn't deal with a soccermom-mobile having the same badging as my sportscar, but to each his own.
So now funnily enough i'm a MOPAR guy
Lol the next gen Mopar is going to be fully electric i bet u will still support that😂
The Mustang is a cool car but it does not look like a muscle car at all, it has a pure sports car look to me. My SP challenger is gonna be ready by christmas goodbye to the R/T
Bro as soon as u get the sp you will want hellcat like me... I went from RT like u
@@robstillwell6794 it never stops once i get the hellcat im gonna want the demon
The challenger/charger are inferior to the mustang. Scat pack is $50k+ and mustang is under $40k and beats the challenger by half a second in 0-60. Just too heavy and that huge 6.4 liter engine doesn't have that great of horsepower to liter ratio. Not to mention the challenger has looked basically the same for the last 13 years.
I had the sp for 8 months before trading in for cat.
@@dieseldouche7735 scat packs start at 42k 0-60 they are neck and neck but who cares and yeah it's the only car that looks like a muscle car
Good evening RacerX great video. I was wondering if you could possibly cover general maintenance costs/ cost of ownership between the Mustang and Mopar equivalent ?
Good idea
Hey at least you got DOHC before Chevy fans do. Chevy got sick of losing to little 5.0L DOHC.
Racerx u admire me to get mopar now u got a Pony noooooo my brother come back