Amy was so refreshing because she was so involved even tho her cousins were so different from her, because she loved them so much...she is true family!!!
Love Jill. Love that Amy and Deanna are the cheerleaders for Jill. Think it will take a lot for Jana to break free. John and Jana in away I feel like the grown up in the way to protect their younger siblings. Josh’s actions and how Jim Bob handled it thrown apart this family.
Jim bob's father was in and out of jail, and his mother was a fundie. Though his mother wasn't IBLP she grew up in a time when those ideals were at the forefront of society anyway. As for Josh, he's a sociopath.
Mary became a member of the IBLP in the early 80s after attending a seminar. She then later introduced Jim Bob and Michelle who eventually joined after they had Jill
Josh was BORN a sociopath, and he'll die that way! I thought the situation was reversed with Jim Bob and Michelle joining Bill Gothard's IBLP cult first and Grandma Mary joining the cult later!
Kata Eva, "too kind?" I'd like to think that she would have been smart enough to avoid cults altogether - whether she lived in the Duggar House or not!
Missionary Baptist? WOW! That sounds more like a cult! Amy experienced "culture shock" while growing up, and it's extremely stressful to have to be CONSTANTLY reminded of the extremely strict rules of the Duggar Household!
I didn’t know Mary and Jimmy Lee Duggar were strict with Deanna and Jim Bob such as banning rock and roll music and school dances, deanna from becoming a cheerleader and wearing blue jeans for a while. I thought Jimmy Lee was more secular than his wife Mary. Wow
Not so much Jimmy but Mary. Jimmy from my understanding wasn’t religious at all it was all Mary who later joined the IBLP and had Jim Bob and Michelle join after they had Jill I believe
Don’t ever put anyone, any person, on a pedestal. Ie The Pope, Buddha, your mother, your pastor etc. The Bible is full of ppl who God loved even in the midst of some very ghastly sins. Who wants to be put on a pedestal anyways?
I don't! I agree that God loved people who committed very ghastly sins, and I hope he rewarded them after they "repented" for them! Sadly, Josh himself isn't capable of that, because he was BORN "a bad seed!"
People do that to me all the time, I don't particularly like it. My whole life i thought I didn't fit in, but now I know it's because I stand out. When I try so hard to blend in.
SARAH, I have Asperger's Syndrome, which is the highest functioning form of autism, so I know what it's like to be a misfit! It's a sad and lonely experience being the one person in the room NOBODY likes, and I learned to accept the fact that I'll NEVER be "normal!" I get therapy and take medication for depression and anxiety, and I hope you get help, too!
A quick clue is the fact that they don’t go to a local church. Definitely a cult and they have caused harm not only two family members but the church as a whole.
Worrying about kids billowy undies...but still had child abuse ignored that was known. Did the quiverful fundie parents blame the kid for fornication abuse?
YES! The IBLP cult is called FAKE Christianity! It's patriarchal, and that's why girls and women are treated so badly! The whole situation is sickening!
@@briannagilmore1110 one of Michelle’s older sisters, Evelyn is a lesbian and lives with her partner. Michelle and her big fundie family don’t have much contact with her at all. She was shown once on 17 kids and counting during the big family reunion episode.
Why? Why can't a woman in the IFB and IBLP enjoy the simple luxuries of a normal life? Why can't they do things that normal kids take for granted? What can't a teenager girl in the IFB and IBLP wear pants or go to dances or have boyfriends? These morals don't sound right and are completely unkosher.
My aunt husband was like this very religious person kids couldn’t even watch cartoons because it was from sinners and when my aunt kidney were falling they wouldn’t get her treatment god was going to heal her through the healing minstry but eventually she lost most of her eye sight to type 1 diabetes and it a genetic disorder I suffer from as well kidney that don’t function properly
And i'd like to add, for anyone interested there is a docuseries on youtube about pedophiles and one shocking conclusion is that true pedos are rare (exclusively attracted to children) most are attracted to children and adults and have minor deformities such as under developed non-detached earlobes.. like the ears of.. JOSH DUGGAR JARED FOGLE AND LARRY NASSAR. Pedophila was also heavily in corelation with conduct disorder, anti social personality disorder, and narcsissm.
Have you ever heard of "a bad seed?" It IS possible to be BORN that way, and that's the case with Josh! I didn't check out Josh's earlobes, but it doesn't matter, since he's now in prison where he belongs!
That's true, but there's a right way and a wrong way to do that! Jim Bob and Michelle made the worst mistake joining Bill Gothard's IBLP cult instead of a REAL church, along with parentification, which is a form of abuse! Strict parents care, but "mean" parents don't!
@@gsmith6026 This. There is a huge difference between being strict and being abusive, especially when you are twisting scripture to "justify" it. God does not parent (lead) his people in the way that the Duggars did/do, and to try to make it seem like He does is wrong.
Im glad Amy’s mom gave her that freedom she seems like a friendly well grounded young woman
Amy mom did not want her to go through hell and let her choose her own path.
@@mikescrazycomedy7362 I’m glad
Amy's mom didn't have a whole lot of freedom herself, and she gave Amy the life she wasn't "allowed" to have!
@@LisaKoffler I’m glad she did
I’m so, SO proud of her and Jill for this, it makes my heart really full
Amy was so refreshing because she was so involved even tho her cousins were so different from her, because she loved them so much...she is true family!!!
Love Jill. Love that Amy and Deanna are the cheerleaders for Jill. Think it will take a lot for Jana to break free. John and Jana in away I feel like the grown up in the way to protect their younger siblings.
Josh’s actions and how Jim Bob handled it thrown apart this family.
I always thought that Amy was the sane person of that family and this documentary proved it.
Amy was my favorite. She was a breath of fresh air compared to the Duggar’s.
Sue seems like she loves her uncle but had to let that relationship go when he risked the health of his daughters to keep making money
My paternal grandmother told me that money can do terrible things to people, and she was right!
who is sue? her name is amy and her mom's name is deanna
@@5656moon I meant SHE
Jim bob's father was in and out of jail, and his mother was a fundie. Though his mother wasn't IBLP she grew up in a time when those ideals were at the forefront of society anyway. As for Josh, he's a sociopath.
I know jimmy lee wasn’t very religious like his wife.
Mary became a member of the IBLP in the early 80s after attending a seminar. She then later introduced Jim Bob and Michelle who eventually joined after they had Jill
Josh was BORN a sociopath, and he'll die that way! I thought the situation was reversed with Jim Bob and Michelle joining Bill Gothard's IBLP cult first and Grandma Mary joining the cult later!
Mary looked too kind to be in this crazy cult.
Kata Eva, "too kind?" I'd like to think that she would have been smart enough to avoid cults altogether - whether she lived in the Duggar House or not!
Missionary Baptist? WOW! That sounds more like a cult! Amy experienced "culture shock" while growing up, and it's extremely stressful to have to be CONSTANTLY reminded of the extremely strict rules of the Duggar Household!
Amy's very lucky that her mom gave her more freedom that she didn't have when she was young!
I didn’t know Mary and Jimmy Lee Duggar were strict with Deanna and Jim Bob such as banning rock and roll music and school dances, deanna from becoming a cheerleader and wearing blue jeans for a while. I thought Jimmy Lee was more secular than his wife Mary. Wow
Not so much Jimmy but Mary. Jimmy from my understanding wasn’t religious at all it was all Mary who later joined the IBLP and had Jim Bob and Michelle join after they had Jill I believe
I thought it was the other way way around, with Jim Bob and Michelle joining Bill Gothard's IBLP cult first, and Grandma Mary joining the cult later!
@@LisaKoffler that’s what I thought. Jim Bob and Michelle joined iblp first then Mary Duggar joined
filming reality TV must be such a fucking exhausting experience
It is, and I've watched a few reality TV shows, and there were some I liked better than others!
I was raised missionary Baptist and yet my parents did not teach me the conservatives views. I knew of no pants. After this small clip
REALLY? I just hope you're now in a better situation!
Don’t ever put anyone, any person, on a pedestal. Ie The Pope, Buddha, your mother, your pastor etc. The Bible is full of ppl who God loved even in the midst of some very ghastly sins. Who wants to be put on a pedestal anyways?
I don't! I agree that God loved people who committed very ghastly sins, and I hope he rewarded them after they "repented" for them! Sadly, Josh himself isn't capable of that, because he was BORN "a bad seed!"
People do that to me all the time, I don't particularly like it. My whole life i thought I didn't fit in, but now I know it's because I stand out. When I try so hard to blend in.
@@LisaKoffler You mentioned God so I would assume that you understand that no one is beyond His saving grace
Anne-Marie Zack, absolutely!
SARAH, I have Asperger's Syndrome, which is the highest functioning form of autism, so I know what it's like to be a misfit! It's a sad and lonely experience being the one person in the room NOBODY likes, and I learned to accept the fact that I'll NEVER be "normal!" I get therapy and take medication for depression and anxiety, and I hope you get help, too!
A quick clue is the fact that they don’t go to a local church. Definitely a cult and they have caused harm not only two family members but the church as a whole.
Worrying about kids billowy undies...but still had child abuse ignored that was known. Did the quiverful fundie parents blame the kid for fornication abuse?
YES! The IBLP cult is called FAKE Christianity! It's patriarchal, and that's why girls and women are treated so badly! The whole situation is sickening!
I am sure the girls were blamed for Josh molesting them.
0:26 looks like Jack Torrence from the Shining
They wernt poor attended private schools. Amy was on like 5 shows for a total of 30 minutes
Somehow, they were able to get what they wanted!
Pssssssssstttttttt Mish's Sister is lesbian !!! Of course , she has been disowned by the family . Even the " nice " ones .
What makes you think she’s a lesbian?! 🙄
@@briannagilmore1110it’s in one of the episodes. She attends a family event with her partner, and none of the Duggars talk to her. Keep up. 🙄
@@briannagilmore1110 one of Michelle’s older sisters, Evelyn is a lesbian and lives with her partner. Michelle and her big fundie family don’t have much contact with her at all. She was shown once on 17 kids and counting during the big family reunion episode.
The IBLP cult doesn't allow LGBTQ! ANY member who is will be disowned and ostracized!
I think I would’ve went and got baptized again. Just saying
Why? Why can't a woman in the IFB and IBLP enjoy the simple luxuries of a normal life? Why can't they do things that normal kids take for granted? What can't a teenager girl in the IFB and IBLP wear pants or go to dances or have boyfriends? These morals don't sound right and are completely unkosher.
My aunt husband was like this very religious person kids couldn’t even watch cartoons because it was from sinners and when my aunt kidney were falling they wouldn’t get her treatment god was going to heal her through the healing minstry but eventually she lost most of her eye sight to type 1 diabetes and it a genetic disorder I suffer from as well kidney that don’t function properly
And i'd like to add, for anyone interested there is a docuseries on youtube about pedophiles and one shocking conclusion is that true pedos are rare (exclusively attracted to children) most are attracted to children and adults and have minor deformities such as under developed non-detached earlobes.. like the ears of.. JOSH DUGGAR JARED FOGLE AND LARRY NASSAR. Pedophila was also heavily in corelation with conduct disorder, anti social personality disorder, and narcsissm.
Have you ever heard of "a bad seed?" It IS possible to be BORN that way, and that's the case with Josh! I didn't check out Josh's earlobes, but it doesn't matter, since he's now in prison where he belongs!
NO 2 pedophiles are exactly the same, but it doesn't matter, as long at they're ALL behind bars!
What’s the name of the docuseries?
So sad
With 19 kids you have to be strict! Lol
That's true, but there's a right way and a wrong way to do that! Jim Bob and Michelle made the worst mistake joining Bill Gothard's IBLP cult instead of a REAL church, along with parentification, which is a form of abuse! Strict parents care, but "mean" parents don't!
There is a huge difference between strict and abusive. Look up blanket training. Something that Michelle did and praised. It is cruel and abusive.
@@gsmith6026 This. There is a huge difference between being strict and being abusive, especially when you are twisting scripture to "justify" it. God does not parent (lead) his people in the way that the Duggars did/do, and to try to make it seem like He does is wrong.