@ManuelMiranda-pn20 The 6000 series doesn't show the total power consume from the board, this has been fixed on 7000 series, everyone thinks consumes less but in fact 6650 xt probably uses also 180W + or -
@@Dexiefy Hi there,i'm building a new pc.Thinking to buy the sapphire pulse brand. (Not nitro/OC models anything like that) But Confused between 6650xt & 7600. Will they be good for web surfing and streaming? I don't plan on doing gaming much. Casually, I want to play games like GTA V, Need for Speed, and FIFA, sometimes. & Forza,i have never played it before. But,I might want to try it at somepoint later,if I buy the card. Can you recommend,which one would be good & energy sufficient for my use?
@@JayeLeli r5 6650xt tdp is a bit higher, I'm not 100% certain about it and can't give you a source but it seems that the rx 6000 cards display lower consumption than the reality.
@@diogoandre3783yes its true its not total board power only chip ...RX 6600 Has TDP from 132 w RX 6650xt Has 176 w but i think he can eat more when everything is on ultra and high Res without undervolting ...MSI afterburner display wrong on 6000 Radeona gpus...7000 RX shows properly power draw 165 w minimum max 200 that's all..
In my country the 6650 xt is 255 dollars and the 7600 is 290. There is a huge difference in power draw and temperatures. I guess I will go with an 6650 xt. The fps difference is not worth it.
these cards are the same price at the moment, giving the edge slightly to the 7600, though the prices on the 6700 fluctuate down to the $269 price from time to time and the 6700 is a little faster for sure. Though the lower starting point here from AMD is attractive and I think a move in the right direction, I was hoping this card would be faster than the 6700 at least. It is disappointing to see that the new generation isn't one upping the older generation in any way, other than launch price.
@@nobody.7.10.7 Σε καμία περίπτωση. Καίει περισσότερα watt, κοστίζει 40€ παραπάνω και παρόλα αυτά, έχουν παρόμοια απόδοση! Εγώ προσωπικά, αν ήταν να φτιάξω PC ΤΩΡΑ, θα έπαιρνα την 6650 XT μαζί με τον Ryzen 5 5500 και 32GB DDR4. Δεν παίζω games, αλλά με ενδιαφέρει να φτιάξω στο μέλλον. Το μόνο θετικό που έχει η 7600 είναι ότι έχει decoder ΚΑΙ encoder για AV1 ενώ η 6650 XT έχει μόνο decoder. Αυτό αξίζει αν είσαι streamer για gaming περιεχόμενο. Αλλά εγώ δεν είμαι και ούτε σκοπεύω να γίνω.
@@Sergmanny46 There used to be a time when the new gens lower tier card would beat or equal a mid tier card from the gen before. now they are designed to make sure that don't happen.
AMD has stopped producing NEW RX 6000 series GPUs and they're just trying to unload all their old new stock right now, that's why your seeing the super low prices. Once those are gone, what GPU is available in the sub $300 market? People want the RX 7600 to be better, but it actually is better by 25% than the card its replacing, the RX 6600 (non XT). The RX 6600 launched at $329 and the RX 7600 launched at $269. It's not the greatest generational uplift but at least we got a lower price from the get go. In a few months it's probably going to be at $249 as well. Another thing to think about, the RX 6600 was actually only 5% better than the RX 5600XT (1 stack higher) , while this card is 5% better than the 6650XT (1.5 stacks higher). That's literally a better generational leap than it's predecessor. Compare that to the 4060ti which is literally only 10% better than the card it's replacing, the 3060ti. It also launched with the same price as it's predecessor at $400. Let's not even talk about how the 3060ti used to be a 1440p card and now the 4060ti is being pushed as a 1080p card? Remember, the RX 7600 is one of the lowest end models (and only a 1080p card) that AMD will sell. We haven't even seen the 6600XT, 6700XT, 6800, and 6800XT replacements yet. Until we see those ill reserve my judgement and play the waiting game.
Ikr, this card actually good, but because old gen cards are better value right now this card get "not great card" treatment. The moment rx 6000 series stock gone from the market, and this card drop its price, it will become no brainer choice. I don't even care about nvidia at this point with their up coming 4060.
@@kemalramadhan1960 Okay but the 7600 sucks more than a watt per extra average frame. Here in this bench, at times the 7600 consumes ~50watts more than the 6650XT for only ~15 average frames more and only 4 frames more on 1% Low while the 6700 fans are at 1600 rpm and the 6650 are at 800rpm. That is very much "not great card". Edit: It's better frame per watts value on some games and worse on others so I hope AMD can maybe fix it to some extend with driver updates.
@Narimos the 6000 series reading you see in every game or benchmark, or even your own when using afterburner, doesn't display the total board power of the GPU. It only shows the GPU chip consumption, unlike the 7000 series, which shows the total board power. Do some reading on it, to find out more. On average, you need to add about 20-30% more power depending on what task you're doing. The only real way to find out its usage is by using a power meter and then figuring out the power loss factor.
I believe the RX 7600 will improve with time and driver updates, just like how the 6600XT with adrenalin 22.7.1 release. But right now, the price just does not justified for the performance.
look at 2:22 in hogwarts legacy, look at the brick fence on the right, and how the RX7600 struggles to fill the texture and the texture just pops up, while the 6650XT is smooth.
For the price Id go for the 6650 xt. Its my first build after years of having my brother do it for me and just watching 😅 Im too broke to spend more for the 7600 which in my country is closer to 400 for some atupid reason. Maybe later on though.
Here in Greece, RX 7600 costs 280€ and RX 6650 XT costs 240€. Adding the 30 more watts the first needs, it's an easy choice if I would had build a PC now.
The 7000 series show the FULL BOARD power draw while the 6000 series and below show the GPU CORE POWER DRAW. So even though the RX 7600 shows more power draw, it is more or less on par with the 6650xt in that department.
I just bought it, but in some games like GTA V, F1 2018, Assassin's Creed Origins... with everything on ultra settings, the fans get really loud at 2500 revolutions per minute or more (80% speed), but the graphics card doesn't get hot, it stays at a maximum of 70 degrees. Is it normal for the graphics card to make noise when it's running at 100% GPU usage? Thanks
Yes, 6700 non xt is a better deal because of the VRAM, however it appears it is hitting end of life. It's prices went up to levels of 6700XT(in fact in some places 6700 is more expensive than 6700XT) or its completely sold out.
this 6650 has such a small rpm, I would have taken it and not the rx6600 asrock, which has minimum 1250 rpm and below it is impossible to do in any way.
11:15 tdp 7600 shows 180+Watt but in specs i found info about only 165W at same time i see on screen 153W for 6650XT which has to be 176W in specs. SO maby you mess with results??
Power draw will vary depending on the program running while the max tdp varies per model. In this case the total board power rating of the nitro+ is 185w
Remember: AMD RX 6000 GPUs doesn't show the right value of Power Consumption. It seems to be a lack of hardware sensor or some kind of bug. Just add +30W to the final number and you'll get the real Total Board Power (as AMD likes to call it).
This is basically the same performance, which isn't surprising. They have the same amount of cores, the manufacturing process is pretty much the same, and whatever small edge the new rdna 3 architecture gives is made up by the faster clocks of the 6650. Right now the value is probably going to be the 6600tx.
Thanks for this vod! I'm kinda torn which to buy. RX 7600 is $15 cheaper than RX 6650 XT here in my country, but this vod makes the latter look like the better of the two? I would've bought the former right away if not for the power draw back & also high temp...
I suggest waiting for Nitro+ version for 7600, premium cooling vs premium cooling it's only fair. Also another commenter said the 6000 cards are not reporting real board wattage, and I check Sapphire's official site, 6650 Nitro has 203 watts for power. So, take that into consideration. Also hearing RDNA3 cards (7000 series) will get huge new tech update/upgrade from AMD in the future. Will RDNA2 also get the same? who knows. Oh and I really recommend Sapphire for Radeon cards, very reliable in quality and cooling tech. I myself waiting for Nitro+ version of 7600. Oh forgot to add 7600 pulse wattage........ it's 185 watts haha, pretty much the same with the video!
VERY interesting results.. thought that 7600=6700 10gb but... anyway thank you, i never trust youtube "videocard testing" channels which didnt show me videocards - only numbers on screen lol. you are one of few channels which i trust (+hardware unboxed and prohightech). thanks again!
Personally I would go with the XFX model. It's amazingly quiet, no coil whine, performant, and a properly designed and implemented heatsink. My XFX 6650XT Merc210 has shocked me with what it can do.
1st mistake, I'm a computer technician and I bought an Ibuypower. (even though I can upgrade it a lot). 2nd MISTAKE-I bought the one with the RX 7600 Radeon 8gb, and the Ryzen 7600 CPU. 3rd MISTAKE that was a big help-I watched all of these videos after I bought it. RECTIFYING my actions, I'm taking it BACK because of RUclips videos and it was $952 with tax. I already own a Series X, PS5, Steam Deck, Old 360, and older gaming PC. Guess what? PROBLEM SOLVED. haha
Considering the 6650XT is using about %20+ lower wattage and fan RPM's are less than half on average for within 5% of the same framerate, for a lower price, the winner is pretty clear if that tiny FPS increase is not your definition of a win.
@@JegsTV It looks customized, you did a good job. Can you upload your Profile/Config files if it's not a hassle? Its a pain in the ass to configure the damn thing
Even with a newer RDNA architecture isn't going to help the GPU at all. This card isn't future proof if it can't even run Ultra 1080p games at over 100fps, or close. Barely handle 1440p, and do NO 4K 30. Which you can still do with an Xbox One X (used) for like $230. lol. Now THAT's future proof...in many ways. This card wasn't very well thought out.
@@drummer7557 1. I was merely comparing these 2 GPUs together, what are you even on about? Parts prices have been shit for years and yeah consoles are a pretty solid buy, but I'm talking within the PC space. 2. Both of these cards are way out of the league of the Xbox One X. Any game with a decent PC port from 2017-2021 that actually ran at 4K on the One X can run way better easily at equivalent settings. And nearly all newer games don't even run at that, they barely push 1440p-1800p and their settings are turned way down. Saying these cards can't do 4K when they easily can in the same older titles and the One X itself barely even does it anymore is moronic. If anything the 7600 is close to the level of the PS5's GPU on paper. And even with its gripes, FSR2 at its Ultra Quality setting will give you extra performance while looking barely any different from native TAA, which is what the older consoles use. 3. Yes, the One X still holds up very well today, it's really a great machine. But literally on a conceptual level one product being future proof does not make a completely different product not future proof, that doesn't work like that. These cards are objectively more future proof than One X equivalent hardware feature wise. It doesn't make the One X less of a good machine for what it is, and vice versa.
Depends on case, and airflow in case and ambient room temp. My rx6650xt seldom sees above 60 DegC, but its in a giant case with several case fans and ambient here is 18-20 deg c. In my sons mini tower running the same games his Gcard is seldom below 70.
if you dont mind the noise use adrenalin to up your fan curve. I personally have a 46° on idle, but with standard curve on Steelrising (everything maxed except texture) it got up to 83°. I upped the fan curve just a bit, like 5%, and bam, no more than 74°. And since I use headphones the noise dont even bother me.
In Philippines rx 6650 xt is $45.99 cheaper compared to rx 7600. I'm planning to build PC these are my selections below, but I'll probably end up with 6650 xt. -Gigabyte RX 7600 8GB OC ($340) -Gigabyte RX 6650 xt 8GB OC ($294) -Gigabyte RTX 3060 12GB OC V2 ($385) All triple fans.
(may i suggest) Sapphire is the go-to brand for Radeon cards, I can vouch for it. Personally waiting for 7600 Nitro+, i want that huge ARGB Light Bar lol, it looks sick(on other 7000 series Nitro+ cards). A while ago I bought 5600xt pulse but then saw Nitro cards has customizable colors for it's LEDs, instant regret as I'm stuck with boring red LEDs only haha. Oh not to mention the premium cooling tech from sapphire in Nitro cards vs just basic for pulse cards. Gigabyte for me great for MBs since drop in quality of Asus due to too rapid growth, going into laptops, monitors and etcs. Jayz2cents made a good video on why he dropped Asus.
Just bought RX 6650 XT in my country and it costs around 240$ while rx 7600 xt cost 300$. I dont think it is worth it to add extra 60$. It performs similar performance.
How did they even manage to get *worse* performance per watt gen on gen? The RX 7600 uses about 25W extra while having pretty much the exact same performance as the 6650XT.
AMD, 1 question How tf does power efficiency get WORSE going from RDNA 2 to RDNA 3? Performance being the same is whatever, these cards go for almost the same price with a sloght edge to the 6650xt, but how, in the ever loving god, does the 7600, a lower class product, draw MORE power
Everyone needs to take stock of what is actually happening here. No more tests needed, no more benchmarks needed.....It is laughable. Nvidia and AMD both stock piled through whatever reason a mass of the gpus. We as the public grew a pair....we have said no to paying their prices for a year. The 4090 is the new tech...the 4070 and below has the unsold tech that they still want to make money on...they are bundling it up and selling it to you as new products. Trust me they have been working on the 5090 for over a year already
These tests are needed. Most consumers don't really care about the underlying tech. Hell, a lot of em just look at the brand. Who cares if its not the the latest tech. Who cares about generational improvement. Performance and price is all that should matter to a consumer. I'd buy and recommend Navi 10 if it was $100 any day of the week. You can be a tech enthusiast all you want, but don't assume everyone's needs are the same as yours.
My huge factor will always be power consumption as long as it can play more than 60 fps in single player and more than 75 fps in multiplayer / esports games there is no reason for me to buy a much more modern model.
Owned 6650xt and wow i'm impressed. Most of the game the gpu usage was 99% and sometimes going down to 96% why is it? And some games the fps is slightly better. Now I just need to upgrade to am5 7000 series.
im savin to buy one of these 2 cards and now i know what should i get thanks men for the video👍 mura na 6650xt sa lazada tapos sa shopee meron 30% less pa(1200cap) pero gusto ko sana asrock sa phantom gaming or xfx quic sana magkastock soon sa pinas bnew hehe
it's basically a 6700 xt, if only they managed to lower the power usage like they used to with newer graphic card, so far power consumption and noise are in the level of 6700 xt. Just hoping if the new architecture implemented RDNA 3 would get some boost in persay Smart access memory or rebar or better FSR perfomance/quality maybe.
In some games RX 7600 has higher fps, but in some others in has almost the same fps. Moreover, RX 6650 XT has lower temperature and lower power consumption. It's also cheaper that RX 7600.
i bough new rig to 1080p yesterday...ryzen 7 7800x3d and rx 7600 ..i undervolted rx 7600 now it eats 1400 watts only and every game in 1080p 60-100 fps on ultra lol for me more than enough in future i can change only gpu bcs CPU is strong :D
There's many videos on this combo, it's really good: ruclips.net/video/uUA0lGLbhkQ/видео.html Difference between 5600 and 5600x is pretty much nonexistent anyways.
a closer comparison would have been 7600 vs 6700 and even then i would have gone with the 6700 cause it requires less watts. this current amd genenration sucks just like the nvidia 40 series. the previous one could give nvidia 30 series a run for its money
It's not worth buying the 7600. In my country the 7600 is a little more expensive, but in comparison, they deliver the same raw result, but with the 6650 consuming less energy, with the fans rotating much less and working cooler than the 7600.
Which ever is cheaper tbh the difference in fps is so slight also the 7600 uses more power so you might have to get a slightly better power supply as well if you go with the 7600 I chose the 7600 for my build tho
@SKULLDEMONn1093 I’m getting a 7500f as my cpu so I’m going with a 750 watt but i kinda depends on your cpu as well I would say 750 watt to be safe but if you have a lower end cpu you can prolly get away with a 650 watt go to google and type your cpu and your gpu and ask what wattage and google should recommend a decent psu
In my country 6650xt is cheaper than 7600
France ?
Or uk ?
@@yannisdani3791 Poland
in mine its cheaper than a 2060
In México It costs 250 USD (it is even with the RE 4 Remake as a gift)
01:29 6650xt so cool and quiet, 10c lower and 800rpm. amazing
Should be expected from a Nitro+ card
It's a Pulse model vs Nitro+ model. Put the same cooler on both and you will see equal results.
@ManuelMiranda-pn20 The 6000 series doesn't show the total power consume from the board, this has been fixed on 7000 series, everyone thinks consumes less but in fact 6650 xt probably uses also 180W + or -
@@ricardofac47at first l thought 6650xt was undervolted because of consumption
@@Dexiefy Hi there,i'm building a new pc.Thinking to buy the sapphire pulse brand. (Not nitro/OC models anything like that)
But Confused between 6650xt & 7600.
Will they be good for web surfing and streaming? I don't plan on doing gaming much.
Casually, I want to play games like GTA V, Need for Speed, and FIFA, sometimes.
& Forza,i have never played it before. But,I might want to try it at somepoint later,if I buy the card.
Can you recommend,which one would be good & energy sufficient for my use?
The performance difference is negligible imo, I was much more impressed by the temp difference of the RX 6650 XT
temp and power consumption
@@JayeLeli r5 6650xt tdp is a bit higher, I'm not 100% certain about it and can't give you a source but it seems that the rx 6000 cards display lower consumption than the reality.
@@diogoandre3783yes its true its not total board power only chip ...RX 6600 Has TDP from 132 w RX 6650xt Has 176 w but i think he can eat more when everything is on ultra and high Res without undervolting ...MSI afterburner display wrong on 6000 Radeona gpus...7000 RX shows properly power draw 165 w minimum max 200 that's all..
In my country the 6650 xt is 255 dollars and the 7600 is 290. There is a huge difference in power draw and temperatures. I guess I will go with an 6650 xt. The fps difference is not worth it.
in my country, rx6700xt phantom was 230$ on sale
@@sownlengoc YOU LUCKY BASTARD!!!!
There is an extra 40Watts and more money for the 7600.....but you are gonna miss out bad on the performance uplift of 5fps....
@@jasonking1284 And the AV1 encoder which gives (much) lower quality/bitrate ratio which defeats the whole purpose of using AV1 instead of H.264...
same
these cards are the same price at the moment, giving the edge slightly to the 7600, though the prices on the 6700 fluctuate down to the $269 price from time to time and the 6700 is a little faster for sure. Though the lower starting point here from AMD is attractive and I think a move in the right direction, I was hoping this card would be faster than the 6700 at least. It is disappointing to see that the new generation isn't one upping the older generation in any way, other than launch price.
It is. That's what the 7700 will be for. Comparing the 7600 to the 6600 would make a lot more sense.
40€ less for 6650 xt in Greece
@@godnyx117 ναι ρε συ θα παρω νεο pc και δεν ξερω αν αφιζει το 50 εσυ τι λες?
@@nobody.7.10.7 Σε καμία περίπτωση. Καίει περισσότερα watt, κοστίζει 40€ παραπάνω και παρόλα αυτά, έχουν παρόμοια απόδοση! Εγώ προσωπικά, αν ήταν να φτιάξω PC ΤΩΡΑ, θα έπαιρνα την 6650 XT μαζί με τον Ryzen 5 5500 και 32GB DDR4. Δεν παίζω games, αλλά με ενδιαφέρει να φτιάξω στο μέλλον. Το μόνο θετικό που έχει η 7600 είναι ότι έχει decoder ΚΑΙ encoder για AV1 ενώ η 6650 XT έχει μόνο decoder. Αυτό αξίζει αν είσαι streamer για gaming περιεχόμενο. Αλλά εγώ δεν είμαι και ούτε σκοπεύω να γίνω.
@@Sergmanny46 There used to be a time when the new gens lower tier card would beat or equal a mid tier card from the gen before. now they are designed to make sure that don't happen.
AMD has stopped producing NEW RX 6000 series GPUs and they're just trying to unload all their old new stock right now, that's why your seeing the super low prices. Once those are gone, what GPU is available in the sub $300 market? People want the RX 7600 to be better, but it actually is better by 25% than the card its replacing, the RX 6600 (non XT). The RX 6600 launched at $329 and the RX 7600 launched at $269. It's not the greatest generational uplift but at least we got a lower price from the get go. In a few months it's probably going to be at $249 as well. Another thing to think about, the RX 6600 was actually only 5% better than the RX 5600XT (1 stack higher) , while this card is 5% better than the 6650XT (1.5 stacks higher). That's literally a better generational leap than it's predecessor.
Compare that to the 4060ti which is literally only 10% better than the card it's replacing, the 3060ti. It also launched with the same price as it's predecessor at $400. Let's not even talk about how the 3060ti used to be a 1440p card and now the 4060ti is being pushed as a 1080p card?
Remember, the RX 7600 is one of the lowest end models (and only a 1080p card) that AMD will sell. We haven't even seen the 6600XT, 6700XT, 6800, and 6800XT replacements yet. Until we see those ill reserve my judgement and play the waiting game.
smart
Ikr, this card actually good, but because old gen cards are better value right now this card get "not great card" treatment. The moment rx 6000 series stock gone from the market, and this card drop its price, it will become no brainer choice. I don't even care about nvidia at this point with their up coming 4060.
@@kemalramadhan1960 Okay but the 7600 sucks more than a watt per extra average frame. Here in this bench, at times the 7600 consumes ~50watts more than the 6650XT for only ~15 average frames more and only 4 frames more on 1% Low while the 6700 fans are at 1600 rpm and the 6650 are at 800rpm. That is very much "not great card".
Edit: It's better frame per watts value on some games and worse on others so I hope AMD can maybe fix it to some extend with driver updates.
@Narimos the 6000 series reading you see in every game or benchmark, or even your own when using afterburner, doesn't display the total board power of the GPU. It only shows the GPU chip consumption, unlike the 7000 series, which shows the total board power. Do some reading on it, to find out more. On average, you need to add about 20-30% more power depending on what task you're doing. The only real way to find out its usage is by using a power meter and then figuring out the power loss factor.
@@pkpnyt4711 Oh okay.
And why is the 7600 12°C hotter while barely delivering 4 frames more?
Very helpful video, thank you!
I believe the RX 7600 will improve with time and driver updates, just like how the 6600XT with adrenalin 22.7.1 release. But right now, the price just does not justified for the performance.
7600 gives a little better FPS but the 10-15 degrees of temperature difference is a deal breaker.
I got it for the better raytracing, av1 encoder, and ai accelerators
different heat sink genius
look at 2:22 in hogwarts legacy, look at the brick fence on the right, and how the RX7600 struggles to fill the texture and the texture just pops up, while the 6650XT is smooth.
Hmm. There's some blurring of the cape every few seconds as well on the 7600. Strange.
well, it has been over a year now, pretty sure the driver have significantly gotten better. i'm rockin' a 7600 myself and been enjoying rdr2
$200 6650xt vs $260 7600 in my case.
Got the 6650xt of MSI
For the price Id go for the 6650 xt. Its my first build after years of having my brother do it for me and just watching 😅 Im too broke to spend more for the 7600 which in my country is closer to 400 for some atupid reason. Maybe later on though.
Here in Greece, RX 7600 costs 280€ and RX 6650 XT costs 240€.
Adding the 30 more watts the first needs, it's an easy choice if I would had build a PC now.
Where exactly does the 6650 xt cost 240?
RX 7600: almost same performance, more power consumption.
The 7600 technically preforms better at the same price but that power use kinda makes it almost irrelevant for a budget build, gonna have to pass
Yup. 7600 consistently needing 180W in almost every single game showcased? Yikes.
The 7000 series show the FULL BOARD power draw while the 6000 series and below show the GPU CORE POWER DRAW.
So even though the RX 7600 shows more power draw, it is more or less on par with the 6650xt in that department.
@@bobbyzed8014 Copium.
so undervol it and it can take only 140 watt
@@bobbyzed8014 source? Where did you read that?
I just bought it, but in some games like GTA V, F1 2018, Assassin's Creed Origins... with everything on ultra settings, the fans get really loud at 2500 revolutions per minute or more (80% speed), but the graphics card doesn't get hot, it stays at a maximum of 70 degrees. Is it normal for the graphics card to make noise when it's running at 100% GPU usage? Thanks
usually depends on the model, some versions have louder fans than others
what 7600 brand did you get?
When this and the 6700non XT cost the same it’s a no brained to pick the 6700 at the same price same performance with 2 extra gB of vram
I know but its not widely available
Yes, 6700 non xt is a better deal because of the VRAM, however it appears it is hitting end of life. It's prices went up to levels of 6700XT(in fact in some places 6700 is more expensive than 6700XT) or its completely sold out.
this 6650 has such a small rpm, I would have taken it and not the rx6600 asrock, which has minimum 1250 rpm and below it is impossible to do in any way.
11:15 tdp 7600 shows 180+Watt but in specs i found info about only 165W at same time i see on screen 153W for 6650XT which has to be 176W in specs. SO maby you mess with results??
Power draw will vary depending on the program running while the max tdp varies per model. In this case the total board power rating of the nitro+ is 185w
Remember: AMD RX 6000 GPUs doesn't show the right value of Power Consumption. It seems to be a lack of hardware sensor or some kind of bug. Just add +30W to the final number and you'll get the real Total Board Power (as AMD likes to call it).
How do you know ? Can you send us the source of that please beacause im hesiting betwen these cards
This is basically the same performance, which isn't surprising. They have the same amount of cores, the manufacturing process is pretty much the same, and whatever small edge the new rdna 3 architecture gives is made up by the faster clocks of the 6650. Right now the value is probably going to be the 6600tx.
Pretty sure with time the 7600 will improve it's performance.
Specially with the fsr 3 since this has the ai cores for those frame generation.
hopefully cuz right now its using about 20-30 more watts than the 6650xt for the same performance more or less. which scares me
just bought a 6650 anyways. I just don't want to gamble. I don't trust AMD with FSR 3 until i see it with my own eyes
@@shavy9655 Yep! And frame generation and crap like that, are not to be trusted! I want REAL hardware and REAL performance.
@@godnyx117well said.
2 months later it is still trash
the 6650 xt is a keeper...😎
Thanks for this vod! I'm kinda torn which to buy. RX 7600 is $15 cheaper than RX 6650 XT here in my country, but this vod makes the latter look like the better of the two? I would've bought the former right away if not for the power draw back & also high temp...
I suggest waiting for Nitro+ version for 7600, premium cooling vs premium cooling it's only fair.
Also another commenter said the 6000 cards are not reporting real board wattage, and I check Sapphire's official site, 6650 Nitro has 203 watts for power.
So, take that into consideration.
Also hearing RDNA3 cards (7000 series) will get huge new tech update/upgrade from AMD in the future. Will RDNA2 also get the same? who knows.
Oh and I really recommend Sapphire for Radeon cards, very reliable in quality and cooling tech. I myself waiting for Nitro+ version of 7600.
Oh forgot to add 7600 pulse wattage........ it's 185 watts haha, pretty much the same with the video!
VERY interesting results.. thought that 7600=6700 10gb but... anyway thank you, i never trust youtube "videocard testing" channels which didnt show me videocards - only numbers on screen lol. you are one of few channels which i trust (+hardware unboxed and prohightech). thanks again!
Thanks for the kind words! Cheers
What card gives the best fps the rx 6650 xt msi mech x2 oc 8gb or the rx 6650 xt gigabyte version?
Personally I would go with the XFX model. It's amazingly quiet, no coil whine, performant, and a properly designed and implemented heatsink. My XFX 6650XT Merc210 has shocked me with what it can do.
1st mistake, I'm a computer technician and I bought an Ibuypower. (even though I can upgrade it a lot). 2nd MISTAKE-I bought the one with the RX 7600 Radeon 8gb, and the Ryzen 7600 CPU. 3rd MISTAKE that was a big help-I watched all of these videos after I bought it. RECTIFYING my actions, I'm taking it BACK because of RUclips videos and it was $952 with tax. I already own a Series X, PS5, Steam Deck, Old 360, and older gaming PC. Guess what? PROBLEM SOLVED. haha
Help!!! In TLOU i have frame drops from 60 to 14 fps with mi RX6700XT is a driver problem or is the game like that? :(
Disable ReBar in driver when playing TLOU.
What app do you use for stat monitoring?
afterburner
Considering the 6650XT is using about %20+ lower wattage and fan RPM's are less than half on average for within 5% of the same framerate, for a lower price, the winner is pretty clear if that tiny FPS increase is not your definition of a win.
thankyou soo much for this comparision
how would this be with a 7600XT though?
The 7600 - while not a *great* card - deserves more love than it gets.
Can you upload the configuration you are using for on-screen measurements? This doesn't look like MSI Afterburner, what is it?
its afterburner bro.
@@JegsTV It looks customized, you did a good job. Can you upload your Profile/Config files if it's not a hassle? Its a pain in the ass to configure the damn thing
The 6650 XT does come a just little cheaper than the 7600 now, but the 7600 is just a little more futureproof and has better RT and AI performance.
Even with a newer RDNA architecture isn't going to help the GPU at all. This card isn't future proof if it can't even run Ultra 1080p games at over 100fps, or close. Barely handle 1440p, and do NO 4K 30. Which you can still do with an Xbox One X (used) for like $230. lol. Now THAT's future proof...in many ways. This card wasn't very well thought out.
@@drummer7557
1. I was merely comparing these 2 GPUs together, what are you even on about? Parts prices have been shit for years and yeah consoles are a pretty solid buy, but I'm talking within the PC space.
2. Both of these cards are way out of the league of the Xbox One X. Any game with a decent PC port from 2017-2021 that actually ran at 4K on the One X can run way better easily at equivalent settings. And nearly all newer games don't even run at that, they barely push 1440p-1800p and their settings are turned way down. Saying these cards can't do 4K when they easily can in the same older titles and the One X itself barely even does it anymore is moronic. If anything the 7600 is close to the level of the PS5's GPU on paper. And even with its gripes, FSR2 at its Ultra Quality setting will give you extra performance while looking barely any different from native TAA, which is what the older consoles use.
3. Yes, the One X still holds up very well today, it's really a great machine. But literally on a conceptual level one product being future proof does not make a completely different product not future proof, that doesn't work like that. These cards are objectively more future proof than One X equivalent hardware feature wise. It doesn't make the One X less of a good machine for what it is, and vice versa.
@@drummer7557 Well you talk about consoles, there are so many games that isnt on console and never will be. Enjoy both.
Are these games running on updated Version of the game ? Because in my version of God of war the fps fluctuate
Hey i have the same pulse rx6650xt but my gpu temps are high. How do you maintain the temperature even at the high gpu usage.
Depends on case, and airflow in case and ambient room temp. My rx6650xt seldom sees above 60 DegC, but its in a giant case with several case fans and ambient here is 18-20 deg c. In my sons mini tower running the same games his Gcard is seldom below 70.
this is not a pulse it is the nitro which has way better cooler than the pulse
if you dont mind the noise use adrenalin to up your fan curve. I personally have a 46° on idle, but with standard curve on Steelrising (everything maxed except texture) it got up to 83°. I upped the fan curve just a bit, like 5%, and bam, no more than 74°. And since I use headphones the noise dont even bother me.
In Philippines rx 6650 xt is $45.99 cheaper compared to rx 7600. I'm planning to build PC these are my selections below, but I'll probably end up with 6650 xt.
-Gigabyte RX 7600 8GB OC ($340)
-Gigabyte RX 6650 xt 8GB OC ($294)
-Gigabyte RTX 3060 12GB OC V2 ($385)
All triple fans.
Goods na yan.
Rx 6650xt will be your best choice. Will also be discontinued after this month (September).
The little card that could 😢
(may i suggest) Sapphire is the go-to brand for Radeon cards, I can vouch for it. Personally waiting for 7600 Nitro+, i want that huge ARGB Light Bar lol, it looks sick(on other 7000 series Nitro+ cards). A while ago I bought 5600xt pulse but then saw Nitro cards has customizable colors for it's LEDs, instant regret as I'm stuck with boring red LEDs only haha.
Oh not to mention the premium cooling tech from sapphire in Nitro cards vs just basic for pulse cards.
Gigabyte for me great for MBs since drop in quality of Asus due to too rapid growth, going into laptops, monitors and etcs. Jayz2cents made a good video on why he dropped Asus.
Just bought RX 6650 XT in my country and it costs around 240$ while rx 7600 xt cost 300$. I dont think it is worth it to add extra 60$. It performs similar performance.
How did they even manage to get *worse* performance per watt gen on gen? The RX 7600 uses about 25W extra while having pretty much the exact same performance as the 6650XT.
take note that the RX 6000 series only reports chip wattage while the 7000 series displays board wattage. the rx 6650 xt is pulling around 170-180w
My next card for sure. Hard to beat at the price point
AMD, 1 question
How tf does power efficiency get WORSE going from RDNA 2 to RDNA 3?
Performance being the same is whatever, these cards go for almost the same price with a sloght edge to the 6650xt, but how, in the ever loving god, does the 7600, a lower class product, draw MORE power
Screw 5fps' I don't wanna sweat my booty off + I also save power, you know what I'm going for.
7600 Power allways at 181 W ???
Everyone needs to take stock of what is actually happening here. No more tests needed, no more benchmarks needed.....It is laughable. Nvidia and AMD both stock piled through whatever reason a mass of the gpus. We as the public grew a pair....we have said no to paying their prices for a year. The 4090 is the new tech...the 4070 and below has the unsold tech that they still want to make money on...they are bundling it up and selling it to you as new products. Trust me they have been working on the 5090 for over a year already
These tests are needed. Most consumers don't really care about the underlying tech. Hell, a lot of em just look at the brand.
Who cares if its not the the latest tech. Who cares about generational improvement. Performance and price is all that should matter to a consumer. I'd buy and recommend Navi 10 if it was $100 any day of the week.
You can be a tech enthusiast all you want, but don't assume everyone's needs are the same as yours.
"Trust me they have been working on the 5090 for over a year already"
You were right... 7 months ago. How did you know this??? XD
My huge factor will always be power consumption as long as it can play more than 60 fps in single player and more than 75 fps in multiplayer / esports games there is no reason for me to buy a much more modern model.
Owned 6650xt and wow i'm impressed. Most of the game the gpu usage was 99% and sometimes going down to 96% why is it? And some games the fps is slightly better. Now I just need to upgrade to am5 7000 series.
it look likes the Cooling System of Nitro+ are better than Pulse but the performance look the same
What would you recommend that is 4070 level for an AMD GPU?
6800xt
even 6800 good too
thanks guys.
6800/6800xt and youre from PH right? there are alot of 2nd hand units on these models currently on sale you can get them ranging from 20-27k
@@JegsTV sige salamat 😁
Dude casually building my dream pc for a banchmark
6650T, 55 degrees at 1000 fan speed. 6700 is 70 degrees at 1600 fan speed. You can buy 6650 just because it is quiet.
im savin to buy one of these 2 cards and now i know what should i get thanks men for the video👍
mura na 6650xt sa lazada tapos sa shopee meron 30% less pa(1200cap) pero gusto ko sana asrock sa phantom gaming or xfx quic sana magkastock soon sa pinas bnew hehe
Thanks paps. Try mo kumuha this july paps para ma avail mo promo ni amd. Libreng starfield when you purchase amd gpus. Worth 3.5k din yun
Rx 7600 consumes more electricity than it does performance
after undervolt is super 120 - 140 watt only and 1-10 fps loss only
I’ve seen the 6650xt cheaper than the 7600
same here in denmark!about 80-90 dollars cheaper than the 7600!
it's basically a 6700 xt, if only they managed to lower the power usage like they used to with newer graphic card, so far power consumption and noise are in the level of 6700 xt. Just hoping if the new architecture implemented RDNA 3 would get some boost in persay Smart access memory or rebar or better FSR perfomance/quality maybe.
It's not a 6700xt at all man , what are you talking about it's not even reaching 6700 performance
@@flushfirethats the 6700 though not the 6700 xt which they were talking about. The xt is the better 6700 xt is the better card
6650xt cost 25 usd cheaper at my place
That was the msrp price! Is silly compared today prices vs msrp of the 7600 thats is unfair! Has to be msrp vs mrsp
6650 xt tdp is the best
No, 7600 reports full board tdp while 6650 only reports the gpu's tdp.
for new build, 3060ti or 4060ti? if both has same price
of course 4060ti IF both has the same price. If not, still prefer 4060ti IF it's new build
Turn down some settings to medium/high, and you got some decent 1440p entry level gpus.
In my country the RX 7600 is $415 and the RX 6650XT is $340. RTX 3060 is $325
Here 7600 is the same price of 6650xt and rtx 3060
It is beyond my understanding how both of these perform WORSE than the RTX 3060 Ti
in portugal the 7600 is the cheapest, the 3060ti is 380e and the 3060 non ti is 320, the 7600 is 300
In my country rn the 6650xt is more than a hundred dollars cheaper than the 7600
In some games RX 7600 has higher fps, but in some others in has almost the same fps. Moreover, RX 6650 XT has lower temperature and lower power consumption. It's also cheaper that RX 7600.
The 6650xt actually beat the Rx 7600 on multiple games here, just not as many as the other way around
In Italy the rx 6650 xt is at 240€ and the rx 7600 is at 325€
rx 7600 seems to have a higher power intake no?
it need undervol and no problem
The RX 7600 has the current technology of AMD like RDNA 3 which PS5 & XSX don't even have!
i bough new rig to 1080p yesterday...ryzen 7 7800x3d and rx 7600 ..i undervolted rx 7600 now it eats 1400 watts only and every game in 1080p 60-100 fps on ultra lol for me more than enough in future i can change only gpu bcs CPU is strong :D
Daha az elektrik harcayarak 7600'ü yerin yedi kat dibine gömmüş 6650 XT. Bence AMD yeni nesil ekran kartlarını iptal etsin.
Same performance, but 7600 consumes around 20 watt more
please make a video on rx 6650 xt ryzen 5 5600 (non x) combo
There's many videos on this combo, it's really good: ruclips.net/video/uUA0lGLbhkQ/видео.html
Difference between 5600 and 5600x is pretty much nonexistent anyways.
a closer comparison would have been 7600 vs 6700 and even then i would have gone with the 6700 cause it requires less watts. this current amd genenration sucks just like the nvidia 40 series. the previous one could give nvidia 30 series a run for its money
There is no 6700 in his region. It is not a widely available card, much less at the price everyone thinks it sells for.
In my country the 6650 is 50$ cheaper than the 7600
This is called improvement 😮😮
Only by a margin
in my country RX 6650XT is cheaper by $22 than RX 7600. What Should I buy 6650xt or 7600? I want to be my pc future proof for at least 6 - 7 years.
Buy 7600
@krexilinmixiling why? Reasons?
@@LORDxMafia new technology so is more future proof it have rdn 3 and rx6650xt have rdn 2
@@krexilinmixiling thanks for info.
so they perform identically. the 6650 xt wins cause of powerefficiency
Its not more power effecient rdna3 report full. Board power while 2 doesnt
yeah nice Joke AMD similar performance but power go brrrr 😑
6650xt reports only gpu core power, 7600 reports total board power. In reality their power consumption is the same.
@@Dexiefy mb youre right. deleted the thread to avoid confusion.
So it's the same card with a $80 price hike... 6650XT it is then.
If i have the money, ill go for the newer rx 7600.
Low temp, low fan rpm, low power usage = Rx 6650 XT win
Bro Please do a test with ryzen 5 3600 and rx 7600...pleaseeeeee
i currently dont have my 3600 setup.
I got the ryzen 5 3600 and the rx6650xt. What test/bench you want done?
Same performance but look at the power draw
Get a 6750xt for the gpu or downgrade the cpu to an i5 12400f or i5 13th
In my country 6650xt and rx 7600 at same price point
Same ish performance with 6650 less hot and less power, could oc easillyy
Problem again with the VRAM though, on most of the games 7gb is used and higher resolution or one year will cause 8gb
U're wrong
It's not worth buying the 7600. In my country the 7600 is a little more expensive, but in comparison, they deliver the same raw result, but with the 6650 consuming less energy, with the fans rotating much less and working cooler than the 7600.
Those prices are so off i paid $220 for my 6650 xt
brand new?
@@JegsTV yep just got one today off newegg $229.99 out the door
Nice. Got those prices on amazon at the time of upload.
@@JegsTV i got the all white steel legend model.
In my country 6650xt 239 eur, 7600 xt 389 eur
ehhm i have with the rx 6650 xt 10-20 more fps lol. And now its an optimized gpu.
In india 7600 is cheaper than 6650 xt. Tell me what to buy
Which ever is cheaper tbh the difference in fps is so slight also the 7600 uses more power so you might have to get a slightly better power supply as well if you go with the 7600 I chose the 7600 for my build tho
How much psu you used
@SKULLDEMONn1093 I’m getting a 7500f as my cpu so I’m going with a 750 watt but i kinda depends on your cpu as well I would say 750 watt to be safe but if you have a lower end cpu you can prolly get away with a 650 watt go to google and type your cpu and your gpu and ask what wattage and google should recommend a decent psu
6650 XT are around 260 €
Prices are taken from amazon
Bug Lies 280 costs 6650xt and 6700xt 350
in your area probably. but those numbers are taken from amazon you can order them at those prices right now.
Semakim baru vga semakin besar watt nya 😂😢😅
I❤rx 6650 xt oc gaming 8gb
This is a scam video. Just read the description, you'll understand.
Wdym?
@@JegsTV RX 7600 is Pulse, RX 6650 XT is Nitro+
Of course RX 6650 XT will run cooler and take better fps.
And how is that a scam exactly? When thats literally the feature they offer?
Abt same price
no dying light 2 QHD
thanks
Overall temp and power consumption is better on RX 6650 XT no matter how drivers will improve on 7600. So, to me, I see the winner here.
in my country rx 6650 xt charges than rx 7600
In my country rx 7600 is 50 dollars more
Se calienta más la 7600