Practice 1 Highlights | 2024 Honda Indy 200 at Mid-Ohio | INDYCAR
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Watch the must-see moments from a slippery opening practice session for the Honda Indy 200 at Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course.
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Who's your early pick to win on Sunday? 🤔👇
Palou!!
Scotty Mac!
I don’t know this hybrid system could through off everything the drivers know and the drivers have to learn
Mahhhh dookie
@@indycar Grosjean 77
The cars sound the exact same. That should help fans better accept the new hybrid system.
If there was one change that should be considered, design the storage system to always contain a slight bit of energy at all times just for restarting the engine. It shouldn't take much energy for that specific task.
They thought of this already and implemented it
the video showed fittipaldi's battery status and it never went below 10% for that reason
Because no MGU-H
@@jerryrl11 I saw several cars go to "0%" during the session (which is never actually zero). It's designed to be fully depleted as far as deployment is concerned and still have enough juice for startup and reverse functions. Remember usable state of charge and actual are two different things.
I think there is an option for adjusting for that. I am not sure.
No Diffey…..so much more enjoyable
Leigh will be back in the booth next weekend at Iowa
So true! Thank god
But we still got impossible to please trolls like you...
So there's that...
Dixon surprisingly low on the charts, probably busy figuring out how much fuel you can save with the ERS over the course of a stint and how to lift and coast with it best...
Dixon has competed at 24h Le Mans driving a hypercar, so he knows the system as good as any driver in the world.
@@amjanFar from being the same system and how it is used
Death, taxes, and Dixon always trying to find new ways to save on fuel.
@@amjan the point... U missed it.
They had to remove the spare 5 gallon fuel tank from Dixon’s car to fit the new hybrid system
Love Hinchcliffe and I really hope he migrates to Fox Sports with the new contract.
Oh please do. He'd do perfect in both the Fox Booth.
I think the ex-F1 drivers would have an advantage in using the hybrid systems. It will be interesting to see if that shows up in the results.
Been wondering that siiiiiiiince for they announced the change , hoping for the sake of grosjean
I think the biggest advantages would be the technical insight how to strategically deploy the energy especially in qualifying, software adjustments to give extra power on the straights and lean off in braking and corners, heavy regen in braking to assist in deceleration and stability
Nonsense. His F1 experience is old an irrelevant. Grosjean, Dixon and Palou all drove hypercars at 24h Le Mans this year, that's the best experience.
There is not much similarity between the hybrid system Indycar uses vs other series
@@amjan where do you think the hypercars got their technology? ...F1
Changing from pure ICE to a hybrid mid season is wild! Never change, Indy!
I’m really liking the hybrid system. It gives more power and it also keeps up, if not helps, the implementation of hybrid technology as a whole.
As if hybrids aren't almost dead
@@ithinkitwaskhamas you mean the hybrids that are getting expanded in f1? or have become a spec part in hypercar/gtp? or have the technology being developed in formula e? but sure, hybrid and electrical elements are "almost dead"
@@ithinkitwaskhamas they arent . all new toyota camrys the best selling car in america are ALL hybrids as of 2025 . you cannot buy them without a hybrid power train
Grosjean could pull off another Top 5 finish he knows the hybrid power unit better than anyone
Not really. Dixon and Palou competed at 24h Le Mans this year, so they know the newest technology better than Grosjean.
@@amjanWill Power has done a good amount of testing for the hybrids as well
Apples and oranges. Plus these are pro racing drivers, they pick up any new tools very quickly
@@amjanGrosjean has the most amount of experience from F1 with this hybrids
@@aavvv_ They are IndyCar drivers - many of them have been driving the same old car for 14 years now.
How would this work at the Indy 500? This will be interesting indeed
I believe that like the Push 2 pass system, it'll also be removed for ovals
@@Meadowllandernope, hybrid WILL be available on ovals! I imagine that for the 500 it will make fuel windows even more of a critical topic by letting drivers engage regen manually when entering T1 & T3 while following the car in front (similar to lift & coast the currently do), or if they’re not in fuel-save mode, they will then be able to deploy that energy on the straight and make the pass attempt slightly easier
@@mauhernz i think they took manual regen away on the ovals. (closing speeds) will auto regen on ovals when lifting. i stand to be corrected
@@zatgeye7320 ah, thanks for the correction. Will have to read up on that
@@mauhernz there’s a video in n the Honda racing us channel with Linus lundqvist going over it in great detail.
I would say the biggest change the hybrid is going to add is the weight added to the cars, which will put more pressure and load on the tires, which will likely mean that the cars will be losing grip faster and will slide around more.
So the racing is better, got it
Which makes racing more fun!
Firestone has built harder compounds for all tracks to counter the higher mass on the rear axle, but this is to due to expected increased deg. More mass on the rear equals higher normal force, therefore more grip (and higher deg as mentioned). What will be different though, is that with a heavier rear axle, the CG will now be closer to the rear, as it was in the pre-aeroscreen era, which will fit some drivers’ style better than others (overall higher power-induced oversteer and better turn-in behavior)
Essa categoria é espetacular...GO PIETRO GO
Just more stuff to go wrong.
Pato sliding everywhere in the rain "its like ice" commentator "did he say its tight?"🥴😂
If f1 doesn't want to add more teams I'm more than happy to see some of their young racers come over and give indy a chance. Poach some money and potential top tier talent.
The advent of fully electric race cars will mark the end of my interest in motor sports.
And yet here you still are watching and commenting on racing videos despite Formula E being over a decade old. Completely flawless logic in that sentence...........You must be trolling, right? There's no way that much stupidity can fit into one human being
Well, you got about 10 years left.
Aqui no bra antenado na indy
La segunda vez que el auto de Canapino sufre algo del motor en pocas carreras...Indy500 (cuando iba para estar entre los primeros) y hoy...
Si, es el único piloto al que le pasan cosas...
I remember thinking for years that Newgarden would never win Indy...
Hope everyone has a good race. The win? I truly don't know.
4:10 did he mean they can adjust rate of deployment? Why would they adjust rate of regen, just set it to regen as fast as possible?
Too much regen can cause rear wheel lock plus it adds bias to the rear wheels. So you want adjustable regen
There's also manual regen on throttle which is going to cost house power of it adds load to the engine.
I see…will be interesting to see who can master these toys and get it right, small teams might benefit some
Hybrids do 2 things: add acceleration and add breaking. They add breaking first and foremost. If you do high regen, then in 1 corner you have all the electric-motor breaking at the rear wheels and the next turn you suddenly have none of it for breaking, the breaking power is less and breaking bias is fucked up.
@@amjan "braking".....it shouldn't break anything, if designed correctly.
They should be using the hybrid as early as possible on the straights surely
The back of the car seems to be moving a ton compared to usual i know it effects the rear but idk if im just noticing it more now 😂
No Dooooooffffy - Will Powwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I’ll say Grosjean based on his experience with hybrid in f1.
Nonsense. His F1 experience is old an irrelevant. Grosjean, Dixon and Palou all drove hypercars at 24h Le Mans this year, that's the best experience.
No real comparison between Indycar hybrid vs others
So if i did the math right at road and street circuits, they should be running around 760HP and up to 820HP with P2P, around 660HP at short ovals and 560HP at the Indy 500, i could imagine the speeds if they added power steering
Good guy Herta, lul. 😄
Indycar adds ERS
F1 is going to push to pass
How long until a crossover event happens?
F1 is copy indycar
How is this even hybrid? It's more like an electric boost. Which is cool but calling them hybrid seems like a misnomer.
Any car that can power the wheels with an ICE and electric motor simultaneously is a hybrid, regardless of the tech used.
Are the laptimes slower because of the extra weight?
Maybe a combination of weight and learning the system .
Oh and money is on a Penske car 😂
How much slower?
Qualifying times will be faster than last year
It was also repaved, so laptimes are potentially not as comparable as they could be elsewhere.
On Wikipedia, (Not the best source, I know.) last years Practice 1 time was 01:06.4935, this year it is 01:07.0650, but again. It's the first time the hybrids are being deployed competitively.
en que horario de argentina puedo verlo
I wonder if the hybrid system will impact the outcome of the championship. Hopefully doesn’t bite Indy Car in the behind.
How?
For now, they are slower than 2023 Practice 1
@@marquesdeportago1596 They didn't have any meaningful running on the alternates yesterday due to rain on track.
Five minutes in and I'm already tired of hearing about the new hybrid system. It's gonna be a huge distraction from plain old, good hard racing.
You do realize you can mute the sound and still watch it right? I'm pretty sure there's a few deaf Indycar fans out there........
Indy teams need to play some F-ZeroX. Not enough hybrid deployment from anyone... If bar is at 100%, you're wasting it.
@@1fastjetta 310 kilojoule max total energy use per lap for now. That will surely increase in the future as they validate longevity but it will never be unlimited.
Did Canapino solve his mental health problems already???
Did they reduce the total fuel allotment? If not, why not?
It doesn’t increase mpg that much
Did they change total fuel allotment when push to pass was first implemented? Honestly asking, not trying to be sarcastic.
No.
60hp for 45kg is a great introduction for the hybrid system from a power standpoint.
Hopefully it’ll be more energy dense in the future though. 5 seconds is kinda meh.
I believe the idea is to increase the power figure, not the deployment figure. So going from 5s of 60hp to 5s of 150hp.
Source: Pato’s comment (need to look for the link)
The ERS system as a whole has room for improvement, at the moment IndyCar just wanted to prioritize reliability. Once everyone’s more comfortable with what they’re seeing, I’m sure they’ll start bumping up the power
The recharge is done in the same time as discharge: 5 seconds
So although it is only 5 seconds there is not going to be a bunch of charging needed, it will ready quickly
60hp-120hp briefly for another 100lbs... surely this slows the cars more than the extra power lol
It's closer to a ~60 lbs net increase year over year. The hybrid system adds 100 lbs to the non-hybrid 2024 car, which itself was 30-40 lbs lighter than the 2023 car due to aeroscreen and transmission bellhousing weight savings.
Why go out of your way to comment and prove that you're and idiot who has no clue what they are talking about instead of just doing nothing?
Even if you use it just as a starter motor, it's worth it to cut down on the yellows just to refire a stalled car.
@@nismology that's just arbitrary, it's 100lbs heavier full stop lol
@@ithinkitwaskhamas And your comment was wild speculation that didn't take into account any potential traction/braking/corner entry advantages that can all add up to lap time. You see, context matters.
Herta 😂
A palou q venia puntero, perdio la punta en el box...
Why would you change the cars half way through the season
I was up there watching practice I live 30 minutes away I am so done going to nascar NHRA and Indy so unorganized!! Rude workers that think they are important and most driver and crew members are total jerks!! I’ll watch on tv but I’m done spending my money at these events and burnt out on it anyway!! Sorry u was my vent of the day
They were supposed to change at the beginning, but it wasn't ready. Honda really wanted it as soon as possible.
Should have just went back to v8s how f1 should have gone back to v10s. They'll learn oneday. People just simply stop watching this joke 😂
EV racing will not be watched in America.
Stop bitching about Hybrids. WEC and IMSA have hybrid cars. And yet their racing is still fantastic, you guys are just a bunch of crybabies.
Amen!
These car don't sound bad as I thought
Tacos
Hybrid here now.....Im out. Was once a great open wheel class. Its all down hill from here. Just as major manufactures around the world are opting out of electric and concentrating on better fuels. Sad Indy Car Sad !
Which series are opting out of hybrid? F1 has been using it for years; the top class in sports cars has lots of hybrid cars.
Good. Go leave and watch something else so the rest of us don't have to put up with ignorant comments like this one.
@@canadiandeplorable4512 Indy Car uses Shell renewable fuel. Maybe refrain from posting about things you know nothing about.
@@craigyirush3492 I am aware of the fuels used in Indy car. My point is pure race cars are getting mixed up with electrification which is being dumped by the largest manufactures in the world. At this time electrification is on its way out and new fuels are the direction instead of electrical power. If indy car is boasting about a test bed for the car manufactures , then lets see them running the new German synthetic fuels that are producing incredible results. Leave electrification for that failing E class open wheel formula.
@@canadiandeplorable4512 totally agree with you! E-fuels are the way to go. But I’m not going to stop watching the best race series in the world just because they went hybrid.
Should have just stuck with what they had. Just a hazard to everyone if something goes wrong.
You must be fun at parties
Well that's some belligerent Babel
Read Marshall article , the danger isn’t like imsa, it’s only 60 volts
@@TheGrahamReaper21 What's babel? It runs the cost up on the teams and is adds a bunch of complexity. What's the upside?
Honda wanted it because most of their future is hybrid or electric.
Not even breaking 180 mph on the long start/finish straight.Adding complexity with no extra speed, good job Indy.
So first practice session with the new toy and already doomposting? Never change Indycar fans. Makes us all sound hopelessly miserable by being Indy fans.
These cars have never hit 180 on the straight here though. They are upper 160s not even 170 so idk what you expected
@@cademckee7276 I guess he was expecting some warp drive type fast and furious nitrous fuckery.
This aint F1.
@@izzdin6228 I mean tbh, depending if the onboard at the start of the video is P2P and Hybrid or not they still could hit 180+ plus here which if you have ever driven mid Ohio is just nuts.
I don't know why indy car added this " junk" to these cars , alls it gonna do is break .......
True. Nothing ever breaks on racing cars unless they have a hybrid system. Just imagine how well the series would be doing right now if they just had someone as genius as you running it all!
Boo to hybrids.
So real
Get used to it.
I mean, if you want a series with major manufacturer money, you’ve got to give them a reason to stick around and develop. I for one like this iteration of hybrid. Still making sure performance is firmly in the hands of the driver.
Ferreuccl. Go. Win
Best I can do is a 19th place finish.
Best I can do is 20th. Take it or leave it.
Man I'd hope so but the Foyt just isn't good enough for that. Top 10 might be in the cards considering how many times this season he's turned a bad race into a top 10.
And cut the mullet!
Zzzzzzz