So nice to see that your nailer is set to sometimes need a hammer to finish. I just got an American Barn Company building and every nail sits 3/16" or so below the surfaces instead of flush. I've been filling all of the holes with putty and lamenting such cruelty to lumber. 😄
I guarantee there is wobble. A pony wall post is 100x stronger and the only way this should be done. Safety first. Not what is easiest or fastest.. This is a pure hack no inspector would ever sign off on this.!
Hey Nancy, to install a wing wall on a concrete wall the only difference would be anchoring the base plate with concrete anchors. Also, you would need a hammer drill and probably 1 anchor per foot with anchors on both ends but allow room for studs. Your local hardware store can help you with more details. Good luck
A bit too late for you perhaps, but everything would be the same except any boards touching concrete would need to be treated lumber, and you would fasten to the concrete using a Ramset or other powder fired nailer.
Nice video. Informative. This will come in handy in a few weeks. Two questions, 1. what timber, it seems pretty straight, 2. How high can you go using this method, without attaching to ceiling. Cheers
I use select pine. I also hand pick my pieces to make sure they are straight. I think the height question depends on a lot of factors. Are you attaching it to anything at all? How high do you want to go? You can use 2x6 pieces and smaller spacing... Let me know what you are planning to do with the wall and I will let you know what I would do. Thanks for watching!
I am going to hack IKEA wardrobes and want a wall to cover the back of one set. They will be like walk in wardrobes. I don’t want the wall to go go the ceiling as there is an air conditioner vent. The long wall will be attached to brick wall and was going to put screws in bottom of wall into concrete floor. The wall will also have a small (maybe 600mm) return. The wardrobes will also be attached to the wall, so I think it will be fine to build the wall say 2100mm high.
@@phillnavin1212 Sounds like you have a great plan in place. You can probably use 2x4's since you are attaching to the wardrobe cabinets and attaching that to the concrete floors. Let me know how it turns out. I love a good plan that transfers to great work!
It is actually just separating the toilet from the shower. Won't be holding anything but tile. I will upload a picture once it is done. No shower glass or anything...stepping outside the box on this design! Thanks for watching.
Hi. I want to make this wall for my foyer. However, i have LVT. Can I nail the base to the LVT? Or is there something else I can do? Bc LVT install says not have anything nailed to it bc of expansion and contraction
You can remove the small section of LVT flooring where the wing wall will go. Maybe even a tiny bit around the wing wall that can be covered with trim so there is still room for expansion and contraction.
@@strongarmconstruction5562 ruclips.net/video/ON5aLG_L91Y/видео.html @1:13, i think its the same wall you start here. Looks amazing finished, i just don't know how to do it =)
Thats what you get when you hire a finish carpenter to do a frame job. at that rate he should be finished in roughly 2 and a half years. It has nothing to do with quality, you can get the same result, without clamps and just using your hand.
If it was building a 6' x 6' wing wall, I would use 2x6 materials. If 2x6 can not be used, go for the 2x4. If using 2x4, put in recessed diagonal bracing. One on one side of the wall, and one on the other creating an X. Same procedure on the 2x6 wall. 2x6 is just less likely to sway I would use liquid nails between the wood at all connections and 3" deck screws to secure materials. Pre-drill your holes so your wood materials are sucked up tightly. That will hold much better than a nail. Let me know how it goes.
is it ok to use wood screws vs nails in this application? also, im reducing a breakfast bar down to countertop height. Had to use the dremmel tool to cut the 2×6 studs. plan on screwing down the top 2×6 to the studs....but they may not be perfectly flush. any suggestions?
What size nails are you using for the wing wall. Plus, is your nail spacing about 6”? I’m building one that will be tiled and have glass on top that goes to the ceiling. Thanks. Great video!
I use #12's on the framing members. If I am toe nailing, I usually use #8 ring shank. I am usually an over builder...I use more screws than you probably ever need because I like to maximize my stability. If I feel like I may split wood, I will pre-drill through the top piece so that it sucks up to the back piece. My spacing typically differs based on the material and needs.
I need a wing wall at the end of a 21.25" deep alcove soaker tub. The tub only has a front apron on it. I plan on using a marble cap on top of the wall that is gently sloped to the inside of the tub/shower. How tall does my wing wall need to be to support a glass shower panel? Thanks.
Great video, I am doing one now for a bathroom remodel. Just curious, what is the length of those small blocks you installed on the bottom between the studs? Is that by code, or just your preference? Thanks!
Great question. Typically, it is 16 to 24 inch on center. I went with 10 inch studs on center. I wanted mine to be beefy. I like the extra support. The wood blocking pieces were cut to fit in between the 10 inch studs. Hope this helps.
Great video! I’ll be setting up my own half wall for our shower soon. Three questions i have Is your bottom plate screwed into the floor joists? And How long are the blocks you nail in between the studs? And What are you stud placement measurements?
Good video. Clear detail. Can I use this method to build a 5 foot wide 7 foot high interior partition wall that is not attached to the ceiling? (My ceiling has asbestos in the stipple, so I am not even going to touch it.)
I was going to do the floor and the wall...but...I have decided to just string a curtain using a Bouclair cable kit. Much cheaper and faster. LOL. Thanks!
If you use 2 x 4 then I would suggest you use 1/2" to 3/4" plywood on the outside and glue it and screw it on. I would also use metal clips and even some steel reinforcement on the inside of your wall if you so choose.
Are you referring to the second piece of wood put on the face of the wing wall? If so, it is really personal preference. I like the extra wood there because it gives me a more secure structure when I am screwing in my Sheetrock. The more stiff, the more strong it is. When you have a heavier the wing wall there is no worries about stability. That is also why I use 2x6's and not 2x4's. Hope this helps.
Mine is quite stable. We also don't lean on it or pull up on it. That can weaken your structure. The only way to make sure there is no wobbling at all, is to construct your wing wall out of steel. You could also use metal clips for extra support. I have a video showing the finished Wing Wall. ruclips.net/video/ON5aLG_L91Y/видео.html
I guarantee there is wobble. A pony wall post is 100x stronger and the only way this should be done. Safety first. Not what is easiest or fastest.. This is a pure hack no inspector would ever sign off on this.!
4 years later and this video still holds up. Used it to put up my wall. It’s sturdy and strong! Thanks!
Great simple design and looks sturdy. Thanks!
So nice to see that your nailer is set to sometimes need a hammer to finish. I just got an American Barn Company building and every nail sits 3/16" or so below the surfaces instead of flush. I've been filling all of the holes with putty and lamenting such cruelty to lumber. 😄
Awesome video I’m re doing my kitchen and living room and this was what I needed to see thanks 🙏
Thanks man. Glad it helped.
Very well done. Thanks for the insight.
Just what I needed. Thanks for posting sir
I guarantee there is wobble. A pony wall post is 100x stronger and the only way this should be done. Safety first. Not what is easiest or fastest.. This is a pure hack no inspector would ever sign off on this.!
Great video. I learned a lot. Wish you would make a video for a wing wall on a concrete subfloor!
Thanks for watching and the suggestion!
Hey Nancy, to install a wing wall on a concrete wall the only difference would be anchoring the base plate with concrete anchors. Also, you would need a hammer drill and probably 1 anchor per foot with anchors on both ends but allow room for studs. Your local hardware store can help you with more details. Good luck
A bit too late for you perhaps, but everything would be the same except any boards touching concrete would need to be treated lumber, and you would fasten to the concrete using a Ramset or other powder fired nailer.
Great video! Thanks so much for making this.
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching.
Nice video. Informative. This will come in handy in a few weeks. Two questions, 1. what timber, it seems pretty straight, 2. How high can you go using this method, without attaching to ceiling. Cheers
I use select pine. I also hand pick my pieces to make sure they are straight. I think the height question depends on a lot of factors. Are you attaching it to anything at all? How high do you want to go? You can use 2x6 pieces and smaller spacing... Let me know what you are planning to do with the wall and I will let you know what I would do. Thanks for watching!
I am going to hack IKEA wardrobes and want a wall to cover the back of one set. They will be like walk in wardrobes. I don’t want the wall to go go the ceiling as there is an air conditioner vent. The long wall will be attached to brick wall and was going to put screws in bottom of wall into concrete floor. The wall will also have a small (maybe 600mm) return. The wardrobes will also be attached to the wall, so I think it will be fine to build the wall say 2100mm high.
@@phillnavin1212 Sounds like you have a great plan in place. You can probably use 2x4's since you are attaching to the wardrobe cabinets and attaching that to the concrete floors. Let me know how it turns out. I love a good plan that transfers to great work!
Thanks for taking the time to reply. The plan seemed good to me, but it is reassuring to get an expert opinion. Cheers
@@phillnavin1212 I am glad to help!
Very interesting and helpful. Thanks.
Thanks for checking it out. Appreciate all the views!
Nice video. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
Next time dbl top plate it will be that much stronger and give you more meet to grab cement board and hold shower glass door and panel.
It is actually just separating the toilet from the shower. Won't be holding anything but tile. I will upload a picture once it is done. No shower glass or anything...stepping outside the box on this design! Thanks for watching.
Well done!.Thank you.
What about where it attaches to the wall? Did you have to add some 2x4's for the drywall to attach to?
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Thank you for watching!
hello again sir,, in the case of your wall can a niche be added??
Hi. I want to make this wall for my foyer. However, i have LVT. Can I nail the base to the LVT? Or is there something else I can do? Bc LVT install says not have anything nailed to it bc of expansion and contraction
You can remove the small section of LVT flooring where the wing wall will go. Maybe even a tiny bit around the wing wall that can be covered with trim so there is still room for expansion and contraction.
would you happen to have a video on the trim you used to finalize it? i Saw the video of the finished product, it looks nice.
Would you clarify for me? Which trim are you referring to in the above comment?
@@strongarmconstruction5562 ruclips.net/video/ON5aLG_L91Y/видео.html @1:13, i think its the same wall you start here. Looks amazing finished, i just don't know how to do it =)
how to find the floor joists to drill hole in tile at wall and ends at 21 inches from the wall
Thats what you get when you hire a finish carpenter to do a frame job. at that rate he should be finished in roughly 2 and a half years. It has nothing to do with quality, you can get the same result, without clamps and just using your hand.
How would you suggest I build a 6’ between shower and toilet and support it from swaying side to side? 2x4 wall. 1x4 cross brace efficient?
If it was building a 6' x 6' wing wall, I would use 2x6 materials. If 2x6 can not be used, go for the 2x4. If using 2x4, put in recessed diagonal bracing. One on one side of the wall, and one on the other creating an X. Same procedure on the 2x6 wall. 2x6 is just less likely to sway I would use liquid nails between the wood at all connections and 3" deck screws to secure materials. Pre-drill your holes so your wood materials are sucked up tightly. That will hold much better than a nail. Let me know how it goes.
I have a really tight space. Is it possible to use half the wood board you use and still have a sturdy wing wall?
Not really. You could use steel instead to make it very sturdy...
is it ok to use wood screws vs nails in this application? also, im reducing a breakfast bar down to countertop height. Had to use the dremmel tool to cut the 2×6 studs. plan on screwing down the top 2×6 to the studs....but they may not be perfectly flush. any suggestions?
Nails have sheer force, I would not suggest screws [someone leans on that too hard, they could snap...in theory]
What size nails are you using for the wing wall. Plus, is your nail spacing about 6”? I’m building one that will be tiled and have glass on top that goes to the ceiling. Thanks. Great video!
I use #12's on the framing members. If I am toe nailing, I usually use #8 ring shank. I am usually an over builder...I use more screws than you probably ever need because I like to maximize my stability. If I feel like I may split wood, I will pre-drill through the top piece so that it sucks up to the back piece. My spacing typically differs based on the material and needs.
I need a wing wall at the end of a 21.25" deep alcove soaker tub. The tub only has a front apron on it. I plan on using a marble cap on top of the wall that is gently sloped to the inside of the tub/shower. How tall does my wing wall need to be to support a glass shower panel? Thanks.
Hey Patti, can you send me a couple pics so I can better determine what you might need. Thanks
What is the size of the wing wall for the toilet? Is it 42" x 42"? Thanks.
Yes it is.
Are you using 2x6s? Going to build one soon just want it to be as sturdy as yours
You can use 2x6. It will be much heavier, stronger and stable. As long as you have the room, go for 2x6.
What size did you use in the video?
2X6
Great video, I am doing one now for a bathroom remodel. Just curious, what is the length of those small blocks you installed on the bottom between the studs? Is that by code, or just your preference? Thanks!
Great question. Typically, it is 16 to 24 inch on center. I went with 10 inch studs on center. I wanted mine to be beefy. I like the extra support. The wood blocking pieces were cut to fit in between the 10 inch studs. Hope this helps.
Great video... Would you use that height of 42" for a half wall?
I sure would!
Great! Thank you much for replying!
@@Ponch0615 Thanks for watching!
Great video! I’ll be setting up my own half wall for our shower soon.
Three questions i have
Is your bottom plate screwed into the floor joists?
And
How long are the blocks you nail in between the studs?
And
What are you stud placement measurements?
All good questions. This video is 80% nail gunning and setting nails. 10% guy leaving screen to find something and 10% useful information.
Dude nice video but you need to move your hand down when nailing made me freak out ever time you set those lol
Good video. Clear detail. Can I use this method to build a 5 foot wide 7 foot high interior partition wall that is not attached to the ceiling? (My ceiling has asbestos in the stipple, so I am not even going to touch it.)
I don't suggest building one that is not either attached to a side wall or ceiling. Are you securing it somewhere other than just the floor?
I was going to do the floor and the wall...but...I have decided to just string a curtain using a Bouclair cable kit. Much cheaper and faster. LOL. Thanks!
Much easier...Good luck!
I am watching where you put your hand using that nail gun and I hope you don't hit a knot because that nail will deflect and one big boo boo
Mario Rios, that would make for an even more awesome video. A little drama goes a long way on RUclips...lol!
I am making a wing wall out of 2x4. It is 60” in length. How would you make it so it won’t wobble?
If you use 2 x 4 then I would suggest you use 1/2" to 3/4" plywood on the outside and glue it and screw it on. I would also use metal clips and even some steel reinforcement on the inside of your wall if you so choose.
Great video, one question about the last piece of wood “the cap” why is that necessary?
Are you referring to the second piece of wood put on the face of the wing wall? If so, it is really personal preference. I like the extra wood there because it gives me a more secure structure when I am screwing in my Sheetrock. The more stiff, the more strong it is. When you have a heavier the wing wall there is no worries about stability. That is also why I use 2x6's and not 2x4's. Hope this helps.
Yes, is it just for rigidity.
You got it!
how do you keep it from wobbling? next part of video? like how it was sealed and finished tiled?
Mine is quite stable. We also don't lean on it or pull up on it. That can weaken your structure. The only way to make sure there is no wobbling at all, is to construct your wing wall out of steel. You could also use metal clips for extra support. I have a video showing the finished Wing Wall. ruclips.net/video/ON5aLG_L91Y/видео.html
How did you secure it to the floor?
hello sir can u give an update on the wall any wobble wobble??
thanks
I guarantee there is wobble. A pony wall post is 100x stronger and the only way this should be done. Safety first. Not what is easiest or fastest.. This is a pure hack no inspector would ever sign off on this.!
Lumber must have been a 1/4 of the cost with that 4" O.C. wall he built there.
What is your block center spacing because that is much lore sturdy than 16 inches on center I like
I did this one on 10" centers. I like extra support. Lots of extra!
How long are the nails you used?
3 in nails
You hold the hammer strangely
can I make a bathroom wing wall out of 2x3
You can. However, you won't have much lateral strength.
@@strongarmconstruction5562 , that works it will be sandwiched between the vanity and spa tub, Thanks!
@@nspgmedia4375 Good luck!