People who weren't fans of U2 probably don't realize that this entire album and tour was an act, a reaction to all of the criticism they previously received for being what some perceived as overly earnest and sincere, that they took themselves too seriously and needed to loosen up and just be rock stars. This particular bit didn't go over well but it really was just them facetiously pretending to be what people expected from rock stars, and poking fun of themselves for acting so serious all of the time.
I have nothing to add to this, I'm just replying so more people see this comment, I see so many people in these comments who are absolutely clueless about his U2's 90s personas
No this is U2 thinking they are superior to Phil and that he’s not trendy enough to be associated with. Wouldn’t have behaved that for a second if it was Peter Gabriel.
It wasn’t staged or a joke. They apparently apologised later. U2 saw themselves as counter culture infiltrating the mainstream (Bono’s words) - Phil Collins was some sort of enemy back then to young teenagers. U2 themselves were just in their late 20s/early 80’s. Things changed. People relaxed. Music doesn’t have the same weight socially anymore. But back then this was real. They fired similar stabs at others they saw as “entertainers” as opposed to “artists” such as Cliff Richard during an interview in 1988. Random fact, this was filmed in U2’s local pub called The Dockers. Paddy the barman was a legend and it was just next to their studio and management were they’re still based to this day.
I'm sure U2 guys regret this behaviour! They were totally drunk and tried to be funny or something.. They really respect Phil. Phil is amazing musician, drummer and singer for god sake. U2 had some wild moments in back then but afterwards they have been very polite and great excample how band can be together so many decades with same members. We are going to miss all of these bands and artists who maked the popular music good.. Nowadays we have only shit.
+scenecheck123MYJ You have to understand the relationship between the Irish and the British. The were just "taking the piss" Nothing malicious in it. If it was 2 US bands then it may be a different story.
That was a bit awkward. Yeah Phil has only been making hits and winning Grammy's and Academy Awards for 50 years with over 250 million albums sold. Tossers.
Absolutely, wonder why people don't get it here, you can even tell by the way Phil is smirking and asking his questions the entire conversation is led with the wink of an eye. Plus, I've looked it up, the 1992 Billboards were held in Los Angeles and both parties have travelled California - Britain/Ireland more than enough in their careers, and Phil is supposed to not know what time it is there when he's having a downlink to Dublin? Not to mention it doesn't add up it's "1 am in the morning" with U2. Award ceremonies usually don't start before 6pm PST in LA, that would make 2 am Irish time (8 hrs time shift). Ergo....all a hoax.
I miss this U2. Poking fun, having a laugh. It was all sarcasm, irony and outright self-mockery. U2 fans know this, the entire 90's was deliberately insincere and arose from the fact that people in the 80's quite literally expected them to solve world hunger, and U2 decided that their image was too self-important, and it was time to cut it down. In fact, Bono stated at the time that "Achtung, Baby" was the sound of four men chopping down the Joshua Tree.
Laurence Dunne We irish call it The Craic and it has been lost over the years with all the serious in entertainment....jesus the last time I saw an Irish band be themselves was The pogues in 1999. I was 4 lol watched them while on my dads shoulders in galway and met Bono a couple days after
+Laurence Dunne as much as u say that and i agree to a degree - but it;s worth remembering they stiII supported causes heavily and said poIticaI things - starting your concert with george bush sir and nazi marching drums is not Iight fare but they had so much suss and humour working with them at the time - it's aIso worth remembering they were broadcasting form sarajevo by the pop tour! :-)
That's the old Dockers Bar on Sir John Rogerson Quay just around the corner from Windmill Lane studios. The band used to drink in there all the time , as did I after work back in the day. Think it was demolished about 10 years ago. And this is all a bit of banter which clearly has gone over the heads of many who are neither Irish or English....the title of the video needs changing.
There has been a lot of Nonsenses written about this clip.Non of you has understood that this was a make Clip.It is full of Ironic statements .If some of you would have seen the Zoo TV Tour in the early 90s you would understand what It is all about.The band didn‘t take themselves serious at that Time.The make up call from George Bush was used during the Zoo TV Tour as well by the way .
Phil Collins is actually an example of a fantastic musical talent and a man with a great sence of humour, driven to look like something else, because of jealousy and hate. Jealousy can destroy people. Think about it.
I find it hilarious people are getting upset at U2 . You ever stop to think they maybe know Phil Collins personally? It sounds like they were just giving him a hard time like friends do .
1) U2, despite their serious overtones, are very funny. Irish people are known for being especially harsh in their wit. I'm sure Collins laughed, even if everyone in the U.S. gasped. 2) That video was 1992. Not recent. 3) They are not tax evaders. They pay tons in tax - probably more than we'll ever even earn in our lifetimes. They just found a way to shelter some of their money, the same way Mitt Romney, Bill Gates, the Rolling Stones, and any other wealthy artist, politician or business person does. 4) U2 donate TONS to charity and often do charitable events at their own expense. They have donated proceeds for some of their biggest hits to charity as well. Of course, I'm sure this post will get a ton of thumbs down as it's more fun to mock U2/Bono than to actually learn the truth. It's like global warming - better to say it doesn't exist than to actually do something about it. Funny how when big oil companies lie, people lap it up. But when someone does actual good (and Bono's DATA program is working in Africa), they are called wankers.
I was 21 at the time and remember this event well. There was indeed a controversy that resulted from this exchange. To Bono's credit, he walked it back after a few days and might have even apologized for it. Anyway, I don't think there were any hard feelings going forward between the two
Yeah, that didn't seem light hearted to me. That seemed a bit mean spirited, honestly. And I'm not even a fan of Phil Collins. It would be one thing if they were jousting back and forth, but U2 were definitely being kinda dicky, and being drunk is a poor excuse.
right, if it were an intentional setup Phil would have had some comebacks ready. he just tried to be diplomatic - I mean even offering to be an opening act? that was gentlemanly of him and they kept being dicks.
I've been a fan of U2's music since I was 10 but this made me angry and really sorry for Phil. Really disrespectful behavior. Even if it was a joke, it wasn't very funny.
U2 lost my interest after about 2005, I met Bono around 2005, the whole experience made me think how pointless it is to lionize a person, I think stardom went to his head imo, sometimes it is better not to meet those you admire, everyone has different experiences but mine changed my perspective on famous "stars"
@@declanfitzpatrick8268 There is real therapy needed for those who lionize and obsess over complete strangers like Rock Stars.. maybe you're one of them?
why are all the comments shot at bono..he didnt even say anything till the end..he was polite .and im sure they are all friends...u2 is one of the greatest bands ever and always will be ..plus was probably staged
KLR, I thought Achtung Baby was APPALLING, terrible commercial garbage. Even One is tedious shit to me now. GARBAGE. Laughable you'd think that shit better than Joshua Tree.
Yeah, that's a bummer. And phil was so respectful, even humbling himself to say something such as, "If you need an opener, I'm here!". Bono and co. were always too full of themselves. They'll never leave behind the legend that Gabriel, Collins, and co. have.
U2 is my most favourite rock band, but Genesis/Phil Collins are one my most favorite musicians as well. Both are two of the greatest rock acts of all times.
U2 are lightweights musically compared to the rich years of 70's Genesis and their prog classics. And personality-wise, the Genesis guys leave them in the dust. Looks like they needed lots of alcohol to stay afloat. I guess the Irish background still had them on the defensive too. Phil ends up with more respect in the end.
U2's music from that era still holds up and Zoo TV is still rated as one of greatest tours of all time. Prog rock hasn't held up, and at no point in the last 30 odd years has it been reassessed in any positive way. The Irish comment must be one of the dumbest things I've ever read.Please tell me you're not British?
I had liked U2 for years..several of their albums were really refreshing and well done, but Phil is 100 times the musician that ALL of U2 are...and I don't even really care that much for Phil's solo career stuff...the early and mid-70's work he did with Genesis will always be regarded as some of the finest music of the 20th century in classes above U2's music....no contest
Absolutely they were drunk no doubt about it. They were trying... at least Edge was; but when you're that deep into an evening it's hard to pull off a TV interview.
@@hypersphereengineering6015 if u think they just happened to be at a pub to accept this award then I can't argue against that logic. i could drink all of them under the table but then again, I am the Nature Boy. Happy New Year.
@@naturboy They didn't just happen to be in a pub, that was for the cameras sure. But I'm sure they were drunk, why the fuck not. They were the biggest band in the World in 92. As for your drinking skills, I'm happy for you.
It's so funny to watch people acting so pissy watching this. Obviously having the guys be recorded in a pub is a gag by the show's producers and the band's just playing it up. Phil is playing along too stiffly but he still keeps going. Watching the clash of egos by everyone involved adds to the humor.
This does not sit comfortably with me being Irish who are generally friendly and welcoming on the whole, trying to tell myself that this was a just a joke that Phil Collins was in on but seriously it does not look good, U2 may be talented and their lives shows legendary but this looks in very bad taste and somewhat embarrassing.
Absolutely Irish to the core. If you hang out in Ireland you will see that this is typical pub humor, a little biting, a little real, but also all in good fun. It's great to see the lads just being real and unguarded. Phil Collins is an excellent musician with a brilliant career. They can take the piss out of him but it's just lads in a pub.
zdunas23 Right, Genesis early stuff I listen to more today than anything by U2. Songs like Stagnation to me are better than anything U2 have ever made.
@@paulmcgrath6118 They have actually reopened the place.The pints looked great to be fair.Grogans is a great spot and the background looks really similar
Why are so many U2 haters watching this? They didn't diss Phil Collins -it was a shitty link from a LOUD bar FFS. So much background noise -it was never gonna run smoothly. Subtle jokes were missed.
It doesn't matter to Adam Clayton if a chord is major or minor, never mind diminished or augmented. That guy only ever plays the root note. He's the most expendable bass player in history.
I prefer Phil over U2, just Phil worked with Brian Eno, Robert Fripp, and other artists, being a great drummer and percussionist in Genesis. Ah, and also a good singer who in his best moments he could have a very decent range (tenor one). Not everyone can hit some notes Phil does. You can ask Steve Hackett about Phil's talents, even after he left Genesis. About U2 they are good but for me not in the level of Collins' career
I can't believe U2 fans are disregarding this as nothing more than just 3 guys being sarcastic and having fun. At least be honest and say they were drunk and being obnoxious. But I imagine most of you don't respect Phil and his legacy going back yrs. Making a guy feel awkward on stage at your own laughing expense isn't cool.
Have a sense of humour people. Adam had a drink problem around that time. Edge was just trying to be funny and so was Bono. They had about 12 pints in them, whoever thought it would be a good idea is at fault anyway.
U2 disrespects not only our music scene by filling it with shit, but also the man who brought us countless pop hits, amazing compositions, and mind-blowing improvisations on the drums. Phil Collins is a genius and these guys are doing nothing but making the ladies dance at the expense of their own dignity.
@crallagham ambas bandas marcaron época. Génesis en el progresivo, U2 en el rock de estadios y redefiniendo el modo de hacer masivos. Bono nunca ha sido solista como collins así que..no veo el porque comparar. Dos grandisimas bandas
This is the way the Irish and English are,always taking the piss out of each other and themselves all of the time. There has been some downright horrible stuff said about Phil Collins down the years by other rock stars.
+Adam Martin Yeah I agree. I was never a huge Collins fan in the 80s but I respected his music and could see that a lot of the abuse was just jealousy.
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Its incredible how people need to instigate , where there's nothing to begin with. No one was dissing anyone. Or if you can call some tired quip about singing drummers 'dissing' you need to get out more. And Bono and Edge know the story so far; they know that Collins was one of the baddest drummers ever when he was doing it with Gabriel and Genesis. And Collins, now in one of those elder statesman/ presenter roles knows it's U2's turn. Award was for 'Achtung Baby", so they were riding high.
The bassist did say out of nowhere that the barman and all the band's parents love Phil's music and then pissed himself when the barman said that he wasn't that old. What else could you call that but a diss? To be honest though, I think it's just that it's U2. You can forgive almost anything when it doesn't involve an absolute shower of cunts.
U2 are an incredible act but Phil Collins is an easy target. He might not be rock n roll but his songs have brought many millions of people happiness. It might be middle of the road but you don't sell millions of records for nothing. Phil, You're alright!
Stuart listen to Phil’s drumming on Peter Gabriel era Genesis track ‘The Musical Box’ and you’ll understand Phil did more to move true progressive heavy dramatic hard rock and roll forward than you might have known from only listening to the hits from his solo career.
I find this a bit sad. It's his face when he looks down to read off his card. He looks genuinely hurt to me. But fair play to U2, pissed up in a boozer they're gonna give shit out.
People who weren't fans of U2 probably don't realize that this entire album and tour was an act, a reaction to all of the criticism they previously received for being what some perceived as overly earnest and sincere, that they took themselves too seriously and needed to loosen up and just be rock stars. This particular bit didn't go over well but it really was just them facetiously pretending to be what people expected from rock stars, and poking fun of themselves for acting so serious all of the time.
I have nothing to add to this, I'm just replying so more people see this comment, I see so many people in these comments who are absolutely clueless about his U2's 90s personas
It was pure, ad-libbed, pure genius... that went over 90+% of people's heads.
U2 and Phill collins were friends at the time and this is just a joke about the rivalry between Irish and english people.
I’ve seen no evidence that they are “friends”
Best Friends! But seriously..
@@LoLzZ85 who cares lol
No this is U2 thinking they are superior to Phil and that he’s not trendy enough to be associated with. Wouldn’t have behaved that for a second if it was Peter Gabriel.
Not friends anymore?
after the potato, we got into the satellite dish!
Phil Collins has more talent in his little finger than the entirety of U2
It was meant to he tounge in cheek
It is true, especially as a drummer.
Bollocks, ignorant f**k. They were just having a bit of fun and were pissed.
What’s wrong with you guys?! it’s clearly staged and it’s a joke. Both Phil Collins and U2 are legends for me and will be ones.
It wasn’t staged or a joke. They apparently apologised later. U2 saw themselves as counter culture infiltrating the mainstream (Bono’s words) - Phil Collins was some sort of enemy back then to young teenagers.
U2 themselves were just in their late 20s/early 80’s.
Things changed. People relaxed. Music doesn’t have the same weight socially anymore. But back then this was real. They fired similar stabs at others they saw as “entertainers” as opposed to “artists” such as Cliff Richard during an interview in 1988.
Random fact, this was filmed in U2’s local pub called The Dockers. Paddy the barman was a legend and it was just next to their studio and management were they’re still based to this day.
I'm sure U2 guys regret this behaviour! They were totally drunk and tried to be funny or something.. They really respect Phil. Phil is amazing musician, drummer and singer for god sake. U2 had some wild moments in back then but afterwards they have been very polite and great excample how band can be together so many decades with same members. We are going to miss all of these bands and artists who maked the popular music good.. Nowadays we have only shit.
we all say dumb shit, when we are drunk.
Stop taking this so seriously
@@Enne_esse next time you blow up your date blow it up halfway so it’s like fucking a super model🤣😂🤣😂
U2 wish they were half the musicians that Genesis were.
There's nothing cool about dissing someone who doesn't deserve it. Rather than seeming cool, it came off as jelousy or something.
How did they diss him
scenecheck123MYJ try telling that to Led Zeppelin lol
+scenecheck123MYJ You have to understand the relationship between the Irish and the British. The were just "taking the piss" Nothing malicious in it. If it was 2 US bands then it may be a different story.
Jealousy? Hahhahahahahahahaaaaaa
It’s like Microsoft Paint laughing at Photoshop
That was a bit awkward. Yeah Phil has only been making hits and winning Grammy's and Academy Awards for 50 years with over 250 million albums sold. Tossers.
Pretty sure the whole thing is kind of set up, just a bit of fun.
Absolutely, wonder why people don't get it here, you can even tell by the way Phil is smirking and asking his questions the entire conversation is led with the wink of an eye. Plus, I've looked it up, the 1992 Billboards were held in Los Angeles and both parties have travelled California - Britain/Ireland more than enough in their careers, and Phil is supposed to not know what time it is there when he's having a downlink to Dublin? Not to mention it doesn't add up it's "1 am in the morning" with U2. Award ceremonies usually don't start before 6pm PST in LA, that would make 2 am Irish time (8 hrs time shift). Ergo....all a hoax.
Exactly there just messing around
@@thefurbeastunderyourbed5012 don’t quit your day job to become a private investigator any time soon🤣.
Phil should have ended with saying “ wankers” . you know he wanted to
I miss this U2. Poking fun, having a laugh. It was all sarcasm, irony and outright self-mockery. U2 fans know this, the entire 90's was deliberately insincere and arose from the fact that people in the 80's quite literally expected them to solve world hunger, and U2 decided that their image was too self-important, and it was time to cut it down. In fact, Bono stated at the time that "Achtung, Baby" was the sound of four men chopping down the Joshua Tree.
Laurence Dunne We irish call it The Craic and it has been lost over the years with all the serious in entertainment....jesus the last time I saw an Irish band be themselves was The pogues in 1999. I was 4 lol watched them while on my dads shoulders in galway and met Bono a couple days after
T Buss Ah yes, I miss the Craic, grew up in Ireland but lived in America since 1994. Not as much craic here....
+Laurence Dunne if only those pissing on U2 knew read this comment. But I think the self-mockery could only go on for so long tbh.
Kyle O'Bryan I don't think that's a bad thing.
+Laurence Dunne as much as u say that and i agree to a degree - but it;s worth remembering they stiII supported causes heavily and said poIticaI things - starting your concert with george bush sir and nazi marching drums is not Iight fare but they had so much suss and humour working with them at the time - it's aIso worth remembering they were broadcasting form sarajevo by the pop tour! :-)
That's the old Dockers Bar on Sir John Rogerson Quay just around the corner from Windmill Lane studios. The band used to drink in there all the time , as did I after work back in the day. Think it was demolished about 10 years ago. And this is all a bit of banter which clearly has gone over the heads of many who are neither Irish or English....the title of the video needs changing.
spot on
LoL, Poor Phil
- Note to Self: Never do a live Satellite link-up to a bunch of Irishmen in a pub at 1:30am!
Half of U2 are British.
*****
Yeah, but they've lived nearly all their lives in Ireland ...
***** they are Leprechauns :D
T Buss and when i say leprechauns i mean irish uhhhhh... My best friends are Irish . Eejit ya.. hahaha oh btw I love u2...
There has been a lot of Nonsenses written about this clip.Non of you has understood that this was a make Clip.It is full of Ironic statements .If some of you would have seen the Zoo TV Tour in the early 90s you would understand what It is all about.The band didn‘t take themselves serious at that Time.The make up call from George Bush was used during the Zoo TV Tour as well by the way .
Marcus Fürnkranz Thank you for this information-it makes sense.
Jayzuz! Phil Collins handled a really difficult situation with a lot of class. Cheers to him for it. One hell of a Drummer, as well. God bless him.
Why is everyone so serious they were joking around?
I know! It's funny!
Adam:Paul's a big fan of your music and so are all our parents
Paul:I'm not that old
Adam:🤣🤣🤣☠️
Paul…Really?
@@sethharris3275 Yeah, that’s Bono’s real name. Paul Hewson.
I know, I’m just surprised to see Paul and not Bono lol.
Gold
they were playing around. not dissing.
Those pints of Guinness at the bar look awesome
Phil Collins is actually an example of a fantastic musical talent and a man with a great sence of humour, driven to look like something else, because of jealousy and hate.
Jealousy can destroy people. Think about it.
He has a better sense of humour than his fans, that's for sure.
"Paddy's a very big fan of your music..... and so are all of our parents".
"I'm not that old!" I laughed my ass off at that line.
Oh big deal people...their all just messing around , including Phil.
Pints of Guinness on the bar look awesome 🍻🍻
Stupid commentators here.
This is just part of the show !!!!!
I find it hilarious people are getting upset at U2 . You ever stop to think they maybe know Phil Collins personally? It sounds like they were just giving him a hard time like friends do .
And now young bands diss Bono, The Edge at al. The circle is complete. ;-]
1) U2, despite their serious overtones, are very funny. Irish people are known for being especially harsh in their wit. I'm sure Collins laughed, even if everyone in the U.S. gasped.
2) That video was 1992. Not recent.
3) They are not tax evaders. They pay tons in tax - probably more than we'll ever even earn in our lifetimes. They just found a way to shelter some of their money, the same way Mitt Romney, Bill Gates, the Rolling Stones, and any other wealthy artist, politician or business person does.
4) U2 donate TONS to charity and often do charitable events at their own expense. They have donated proceeds for some of their biggest hits to charity as well.
Of course, I'm sure this post will get a ton of thumbs down as it's more fun to mock U2/Bono than to actually learn the truth. It's like global warming - better to say it doesn't exist than to actually do something about it. Funny how when big oil companies lie, people lap it up. But when someone does actual good (and Bono's DATA program is working in Africa), they are called wankers.
why are you all so pressed about this? it seems pretty clear that this was planned and they’re all having a laugh with each other.
Lol yall didn't get this is a joke?
I was 21 at the time and remember this event well. There was indeed a controversy that resulted from this exchange. To Bono's credit, he walked it back after a few days and might have even apologized for it. Anyway, I don't think there were any hard feelings going forward between the two
Oh that Guinness looks so good! Especially off the tap.
Yeah, that didn't seem light hearted to me. That seemed a bit mean spirited, honestly. And I'm not even a fan of Phil Collins. It would be one thing if they were jousting back and forth, but U2 were definitely being kinda dicky, and being drunk is a poor excuse.
agree
right, if it were an intentional setup Phil would have had some comebacks ready. he just tried to be diplomatic - I mean even offering to be an opening act? that was gentlemanly of him and they kept being dicks.
@@dezunne They were awful. And now it's karma, because now THEY'RE the older, irrelevant rock stars who everyone mocks.
Some of you people in the comment section need to get a sense of humor. It's so clear that they're all just busting balls.
Sure...
I know..so serious!
A bit of a light banter. Some real weirdos in this comment section.
BeyondEnchantment he’s not wrong tho
Phil is acting a total pro here.
I think it should be mandatory to be shitfaced when you accept a music award. It's more Rock and Roll, and definitely more fun.....
Hell yeah!
Yes!
I've been a fan of U2's music since I was 10 but this made me angry and really sorry for Phil. Really disrespectful behavior. Even if it was a joke, it wasn't very funny.
How were they disrespectful
mistyblueeyes feck off, It's called the craic. And it was hilarious to see them come out of their shells
T Buss Feck off yourself.
***** Well it made Phil look like the underdog who was being made fun of.
mistyblueeyes So what, they weren't being serious
Apparently nobody here knows what "cutting up with each other" means
Jealousy is a bitch lads, come back when you have talent. Meanwhile we'll not be holding our breathe. Wankers. Phil is a legend!!
+Rob T go hold your breath till you go away.
So, not a people person then?
+Rob T They just won an award for their song "One",they had little to be jealous about.Plus they still have a career.
You'll notice they're the ones who won the award.
Adam clayton is a genious! My favorite bass player! All people hâte this band, just jealous... 🤗🤗
A Genius from the worsest bass players ever, every programmed bassline has much much more feeling like this kid who never grows up.
U2 lost my interest after about 2005, I met Bono around 2005, the whole experience made me think how pointless it is to lionize a person, I think stardom went to his head imo, sometimes it is better not to meet those you admire, everyone has different experiences but mine changed my perspective on famous "stars"
what happened?
Thanks for sharing, as I'm sure your therapist says on a twice weekly basis
@@declanfitzpatrick8268 There is real therapy needed for those who lionize and obsess over complete strangers like Rock Stars.. maybe you're one of them?
why are all the comments shot at bono..he didnt even say anything till the end..he was polite .and im sure they are all friends...u2 is one of the greatest bands ever and always will be ..plus was probably staged
Achtung Baby - the best U2 album ever there was and there ever will be.
***** Has anyone ever told you what a nice person you are? Thought not...
SuperGroovy23 I'm a real charmer ain't I lol ;D
***** Lol! 😂
KLR, I thought Achtung Baby was APPALLING, terrible commercial garbage. Even One is tedious shit to me now. GARBAGE. Laughable you'd think that shit better than Joshua Tree.
SubMachine1000 We get that you don't like Achtung Baby but is there a need to keep mentioning it on different people's comments?
Yeah, that's a bummer. And phil was so respectful, even humbling himself to say something such as, "If you need an opener, I'm here!". Bono and co. were always too full of themselves. They'll never leave behind the legend that Gabriel, Collins, and co. have.
Hahaha
he's poked fun at them in a more recent interview. I bet they know each other more than what we see.
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
U2 is my most favourite rock band, but Genesis/Phil Collins are one my most favorite musicians as well. Both are two of the greatest rock acts of all times.
U2 are lightweights musically compared to the rich years of 70's Genesis and their prog classics. And personality-wise, the Genesis guys leave them in the dust. Looks like they needed lots of alcohol to stay afloat. I guess the Irish background still had them on the defensive too. Phil ends up with more respect in the end.
U2's music from that era still holds up and Zoo TV is still rated as one of greatest tours of all time.
Prog rock hasn't held up, and at no point in the last 30 odd years has it been reassessed in any positive way.
The Irish comment must be one of the dumbest things I've ever read.Please tell me you're not British?
@@adammartin7007 you don't know shit about prog rock please stop embarrassing yourself
good-natured ribbing or not, this just made me realize the kind of people U2 are
Who could imagine Phil the singer was such an absolute amazing drummer back in the day
Everyone who listened to Genesis since 1971when he began to play with 'em , mate :)
@@stependragon yeahh
Every Genesis fan in the world mate and there's a lot of us !!!!
I had liked U2 for years..several of their albums were really refreshing and well done, but Phil is 100 times the musician that ALL of U2 are...and I don't even really care that much for Phil's solo career stuff...the early and mid-70's work he did with Genesis will always be regarded as some of the finest music of the 20th century in classes above U2's music....no contest
It's so clearly a joke, guys. Lighten up.
Absolutely they were drunk no doubt about it. They were trying... at least Edge was; but when you're that deep into an evening it's hard to pull off a TV interview.
it's probably non-alcoholic beer.
Non alcoholic Beer in Ireland ? You can't be serious. They're the biggest drinkers on Earth 🙄
Bono is known to drink loads
@@hypersphereengineering6015 if u think they just happened to be at a pub to accept this award then I can't argue against that logic. i could drink all of them under the table but then again, I am the Nature Boy. Happy New Year.
@@naturboy They didn't just happen to be in a pub, that was for the cameras sure. But I'm sure they were drunk, why the fuck not. They were the biggest band in the World in 92. As for your drinking skills, I'm happy for you.
100%. Bono would never actually drink alcohol because it would make Jesus mad or something. Lmao
It's so funny to watch people acting so pissy watching this. Obviously having the guys be recorded in a pub is a gag by the show's producers and the band's just playing it up. Phil is playing along too stiffly but he still keeps going. Watching the clash of egos by everyone involved adds to the humor.
zyxwut321 And to the ratings of the day....
I am a fan of this youtube video, and so are all our parents
Paddy: "I'm not that old"
Adam: *Laughs hysterically *
Phil: 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
“And then there were three”, is one of the best albums to ever come out. Each song was a story told with passion in every note and lyric!!!!
overrated.
This does not sit comfortably with me being Irish who are generally friendly and welcoming on the whole, trying to tell myself that this was a just a joke that Phil Collins was in on but seriously it does not look good, U2 may be talented and their lives shows legendary but this looks in very bad taste and somewhat embarrassing.
You know why Irish jokes are so simple, so Englishmen like Phil Collins can understand them.
@@soniamacintyre5229 That's pitty because English don't even bother to understand them. Irish are that irrelevant for English people.
@@ltr1745 It's just jovial banter on my behalf. I love the English, otherwise I would have never married one. :)
Bono is the new Phil Collins.
What goes around comes around.
What did go around?
No way, he's not that talented ;)
Ger Ko Bono's a good frontman and lyricist but he can't play the drums.
Haha. Nice.
Absolutely Irish to the core. If you hang out in Ireland you will see that this is typical pub humor, a little biting, a little real, but also all in good fun. It's great to see the lads just being real and unguarded. Phil Collins is an excellent musician with a brilliant career. They can take the piss out of him but it's just lads in a pub.
Bono, real? ha ha, yeah sure, in Dublin 4 more like
rofl. the whole comment section doesn't get that they were joking. cheez, what happened with humour 27 years later?
I know! It's funny!
HAHAHAHA Phil looks so annoyed xD
"Paddy's a big fan of your music... And so are our parents" - epic Mr Clayton
and now u2 is like one of top dad rock bands lmfao
Early Genesis stuff is legendary on the other hand
zdunas23 Right, Genesis early stuff I listen to more today than anything by U2. Songs like Stagnation to me are better than anything U2 have ever made.
Yeah, that is called "taste".
We all have it (in case you didn't know).
Cheers!
u2santos Exactly, so why the need for Bonehead to ridicule and attack Phil Collins?
It wasn't a joke, you could tell by the awkward way Phil reacted to it. If The Edge wanted to joke, he should've taken his hat off that bald head.
This is grogans in dublin city, great pub, great guinness, great staff, great toasties
It's the Old Dockers Bar in Sir John Rogerson Quay
@@rob7819 ah right , I always thought it was grogans 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@paulmcgrath6118 They have actually reopened the place.The pints looked great to be fair.Grogans is a great spot and the background looks really similar
@@rob7819 yeah it really looks a lot like grogans , I’ve never been to the old dockers bar , is it an early house ?
They we re havin a little fun is all ,,,LMAO !!!
I know! lmao!
Why are so many U2 haters watching this? They didn't diss Phil Collins -it was a shitty link from a LOUD bar FFS. So much background noise -it was never gonna run smoothly. Subtle jokes were missed.
It doesn't matter to Adam Clayton if a chord is major or minor, never mind diminished or augmented. That guy only ever plays the root note. He's the most expendable bass player in history.
I prefer Phil over U2, just Phil worked with Brian Eno, Robert Fripp, and other artists, being a great drummer and percussionist in Genesis. Ah, and also a good singer who in his best moments he could have a very decent range (tenor one). Not everyone can hit some notes Phil does. You can ask Steve Hackett about Phil's talents, even after he left Genesis. About U2 they are good but for me not in the level of Collins' career
Oh, I wonder who else worked with Brian Eno?....Idiot!
Jacqueline Thomson I still prefer Phil over U2. Brian Eno was the man who helped U2 sound better.
I prefer 70's Genesis over U2 anytime.....
Curiously Brian Eno is the common denominator between U2 and Phil Collins...
Ironically, now U2 became the "parents" band ;)
They didn't diss Phil at all, they were quite respectful, especially Bono. Except for the joke about drummers., which was just that....a JOKE.
Talk about rock stars off duty. What's next? Bono via satellite in the dentist chair or the Edge in the bath?
+comprehensiveboy weII bono would have a hard time chatting at Ieast! ;-)
Where was the insult?
They said 'drummers start to get a bit funny when they start singing' or something along those lines.
"Our parents love your music" as well
It was imaginary, like the comments sections ability to take a fucking joke.
@@Enne_esse you have piss pants in your family photos 😂🤣😂🤣
Larry Mullin Jr, the class act of the band, left the pub early as things got out of hand
Bono is gonna be pissed, when he finds out that he's not Jesus.
Paddy stole the bit: "I'm not that old.
yes! Lol!
Well they've got the whole world dissing them now.
nope, just the one's with hair stuck up their a$$ diss them.
curious to know what edge was getting at regarding Larry.....
Love how the Edge and Bono are absolutely shitfaced and then Adam's just like "it's only half one". Sounds about right.
I can't believe U2 fans are disregarding this as nothing more than just 3 guys being sarcastic and having fun. At least be honest and say they were drunk and being obnoxious. But I imagine most of you don't respect Phil and his legacy going back yrs. Making a guy feel awkward on stage at your own laughing expense isn't cool.
Have a sense of humour people. Adam had a drink problem around that time. Edge was just trying to be funny and so was Bono. They had about 12 pints in them, whoever thought it would be a good idea is at fault anyway.
I know!
U2 disrespects not only our music scene by filling it with shit, but also the man who brought us countless pop hits, amazing compositions, and mind-blowing improvisations on the drums. Phil Collins is a genius and these guys are doing nothing but making the ladies dance at the expense of their own dignity.
Lol lighten up, Francis. It was all an act.
Looks like U2 are now the joke.
@crallagham ambas bandas marcaron época. Génesis en el progresivo, U2 en el rock de estadios y redefiniendo el modo de hacer masivos. Bono nunca ha sido solista como collins así que..no veo el porque comparar. Dos grandisimas bandas
This is the way the Irish and English are,always taking the piss out of each other and themselves all of the time.
There has been some downright horrible stuff said about Phil Collins down the years by other rock stars.
+Adam Martin Yeah I agree. I was never a huge Collins fan in the 80s but I respected his music and could see that a lot of the abuse was just jealousy.
Yea, jealous shitheads
Love that Bono’s humor triggers the comments section. More reasons for me to love him.
hey boomer you took yoga classes to become flexible enough to blow yourself because nobody else would do it 😂🤣😂🤣 triggered? You commented on 37 posts🤣😂🤣😂
If only Mullen could drum like Phil. Check out Brand X and get back to me Mullen
+Maureen O'Connor - seems a bit unfair - he's not even there dissing phil.
Its all fun and banter between them and Phil. People are taking this way too seriously.....
I like u2 back when they were like this and not the whole save Africa and a whale bs
Nothing if it's not thrown down your throat like a religion.
Invisible Touch!! Yeah man! I rock out when I hear that in the supermarket!
Jesus Christ, why are people making such a big deal out of something that happened OVER 2 DECADES ago!?
Because now we can all view bono's and co. shitty mistakes, thank you interwebz.
Juan Casillas Because they are watching it now? Why do people still get upset when watching movies about WW2?
jackcslewis2009 How do you compare WW2 and Bono dissing Phil Collins?
+Blake Talley lets take a look at yours. This was during ZooTv and Irish have different humor than imbeciles like you.
+Studio2770 Bahahaha zero likes, because you're a worthless fuckup. Apply yourself.
Its incredible how people need to instigate , where there's nothing to begin with. No one was dissing anyone. Or if you can call some tired quip about singing drummers 'dissing' you need to get out more. And Bono and Edge know the story so far; they know that Collins was one of the baddest drummers ever when he was doing it with Gabriel and Genesis. And Collins, now in one of those elder statesman/ presenter roles knows it's U2's turn. Award was for 'Achtung Baby", so they were riding high.
The bassist did say out of nowhere that the barman and all the band's parents love Phil's music and then pissed himself when the barman said that he wasn't that old. What else could you call that but a diss?
To be honest though, I think it's just that it's U2. You can forgive almost anything when it doesn't involve an absolute shower of cunts.
palacerevolution2000 shut up u2 sycophant
Bill Collins will be remembered long after U2 are forgotten.
Micko Hughes It seems that he is already half forgotten, at least by you...His name is Phil NOT Bill...
Doyle Perkins lol you took the bait
Micko Hughes who is Bill Collins?
Love this.. Saw it live 🙏🍻
U2 are an incredible act but Phil Collins is an easy target. He might not be rock n roll but his songs have brought many millions of people happiness. It might be middle of the road but you don't sell millions of records for nothing. Phil, You're alright!
Stuart listen to Phil’s drumming on Peter Gabriel era Genesis track ‘The Musical Box’ and you’ll understand Phil did more to move true progressive heavy dramatic hard rock and roll forward than you might have known from only listening to the hits from his solo career.
U2 were drinking and loaded up with Smack
People in comments are so slow its a skit
U2. Total legends. Phil isn't bad either.
This was a staged joke.
2:23 LMFAO
I find this a bit sad. It's his face when he looks down to read off his card. He looks genuinely hurt to me. But fair play to U2, pissed up in a boozer they're gonna give shit out.
Ok boomer
@@Enne_esse hey boomer you took yoga classes to become flexible enough to blow yourself because nobody else would do it 😂🤣😂🤣