FTF #54 How To Install Handrail Posts, Quick And Easy
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Here is a quick and easy method for installing wood handrail posts on your deck or staircase.
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Tip for cutting threaded rod and bolts. Have a nut on the end you plan to keep (maybe both ends) so that when you are done cutting you can slowly turn the nut over the cut end to repair the threads. Don't fully remove the bolt until the threads feel correct. Just work the nut almost off and then back on and back and forth to clean up the threads.
You put more time and effort into that post than a lot of guys put into complete houses. You are very professional. Great attention to detail!
A MAJOR step he missed telling everyone here:
If you drill at any angle other than perfectly straight/level/plumb with you bit-the post is not level-- huge thing to get right
Never thought of that application on an exterior deck. I do use that method on my interior newel posts on stairs. I'll have to try it sometime... when I'm not pressed for time that is.
I've been in carpentry for many years and your teaching is great!! The way you explain the reasoning as to why this way is better than notching the decking around the post makes it last much longer and easy to repair years from now. Great work!
All you Nay Sayers. I have always done mine the old fashioned way or code way and I will say this. I recently built two decks. One a refurb and one completely new. I have always hated notching so I experimented on the refurb. I could push against, and snap right off, the old way. now with only this method and doubling the sill and screwing them together I could not even bend one over. Thank you samuraicarpenter for this great idea.
I'm redoing my deck right now, replacing the old wood with Trex and Trex railing. Would this method meet code? Since I wouldn't be messing with the sanding of the ends (covering them with the post cover and end cap, this method would not be very time-consuming and would make doing all the picture framing and decking go a lot faster. I was planning on notching and adding 5 more posts since it's a different style railing.
@@michaelpeck5547 You're not suppose to notch 4x4 handrail posts. That's code in many places from what I understand. I like the thru-bolt idea. I've never experienced it but I'm skeptical. Side torque seems to apply too much pressure on the post bottoms. There's less than six inches there, part of it drilled out.
Well I've just spent my Saturday morning here in the UK watching quite a few of your vids. I am in awe of your skill level and if you don't mind me saying in someone so young. Your attention to detail and drive to do it right is a thrill to watch and I feel privileged to see you in action. All the very best to you and your family.
Regards
Mike
I appreciate the way you think outside the "normal" construction box to create unique ways to attack problems we all know about but seldom take time to rectify. Just because it's always been done this way!
I just happened across your site and for a DIY'er such as myself who uses the old school concept of work smarter not harder, this was incredibly helpful! I have found many ways to save time and energy over the years and dealt with ridicule for my techniques, but they ALWAYS passed code and provided me with happy customers. Thanks for posting this and I look forward to reviewing the rest of your videos!
Oh, also, thank you for tip on the wood files!!
You do amazing work and make it look awesome and super enjoyable at the same time. Thank you as this is a great tutorial. Keep em coming please. Very much appreciate your work, attitude and approach.
That is some insanely great detail. 👍👍
Good job dude. Love the way you mix modern and traditional methods for an optimum finish. Also good to see you working outside in sunshine rather than snow. 😎
Samurai, you are a genius! Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. I like how you think and your attention to detail. Yoi shigoto o tsudzukeru.
Hey Samurai You do a very professional job I like
That half lap corner detail is still the most brilliant thing I've seen!
Yes, I was afraid he was going to cover it up by putting a post right in the middle of it.
Perfect! I have an older deck that, though otherwise sound, needs new posts and rails. Going to give this a try. Thanks!
I just watched your CORNER video and subscribed… your work/skills speak for themselves. I’ve been doing this +30 years and the techniques in one short clip show what you can continue to learn. OUTSTANDING!
A hole drilled even 6” deep into the bottom of the post requires a certain amount of luck to ensure that the rod and side hole are sufficiently aligned. This is a great idea for line posts as an alternative to setting posts through the deck or side mounting. I think a couple of jigs would make this more of a production technique. Some steel bushings set into thick solid stock using a drill press would make the post and deck drilling much faster, more accurate and damn near foolproof.
Larry haun was nailing down the last wall of the entire house, when that post was finished. But this is still phenomenal work and the attention to detail is *mwaaa*!
I did about the same with my support posts for my patio cover. Solid as a rock. Nice job. Love your work.
I used this method two days ago. Perfect results! I did take extra time but worth it. I used a post sleeve after installation but my posts are secure and sturdy. Thanks for the idea.
This carpenter is fantastic at his job and so passionate and makes it fun to watch , His got an old head on young shoulders , I take my hat off to him , He is a real interesting guy . I love watching him !!!! From Michael Patrick .
michael patrick hi check my builds out see what you think
Old head would have planes lying on their side
I would love to see some side-by-side load testing for this method vs. the standard 2 through bolts through the side of the rim joist.
great thought, seems this bolt option would outperform in all categories.. one upgrade 'thought' is to increase the diameter of the threaded rod.. blessed to have found this vid
This technique works like a champ! Solid as a rock! I just did this with 6x6 Cumuru posts. Used a wax end grain sealer for my end cuts instead of rubber. It was the fastest post install I’ve done out of three decks. Highly recommend it.
I know this is a 4 year old video but I only found it a few weeks ago and I keep coming back to watch it. I've tried, seems like, every kind of deck post install possible but have never been really satisfied with them. This intrigues me, so tomorrow I will be using your system to install 6 post on a small porch. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
A short length of hardwood dowel ripped down the center to fashion a semi circle makes for a good spacer inside your pocket hole and provides a flat surface for your washer.
you do nice work, thanks for sharing
Man, I feel like I'm going to make my dream come true and build my workbench and make a new passion go alive :)
Thank You for all Your inspiring videos!
I'm a tradesman carpenter as well and I love your attention to detail,it's what makes a mediocre job a great job,love your work
Samurai has so many building inspectors and engineers watching and commenting on his videos. I wonder how many people actually do this stuff for a living and know what they are talking about. When you do this type of work every day all day you develop an ability to make things that work.
The is how I build my decks. That how pretty much everyone that builds decks attaches railing posts.
These are absolutely how not to videos.
@@chenlee3240 ok Chen Lee🤣
I like the detail you put into the edges of the post and the top. I know that most customers don't appreciate the detail you put into your work and don't want to pay for it, but that's what makes you stand out above the competition. I don't what customers are like up there in BC, but here in Buffalo NY, there is a small segment of people who want to pay for the extra detail you put into all of your work. An elderly American missionary to china who did a lot of embroidery once said to me that that the back side of an embroidered piece is just as important as the front side as far as how it looks. That is how I do all of my work and will never get rich by doing it that way.
You may never get rich but you're doing things the best way and can sleep better at night. Good to hear an honest person thoughts ! Thanks.
genius way of setting posts. I have a large deck I'll be starting at my own place and will certainly be doing it this way. Great job!
Samurai’s rough and ready is everyone else’s perfect. Great vid as always.
Codes vary all over the country. In PA we have 1,256 various jurisdictions to deal with. 90% adopted the ICC codes but many with their own ordinances voted into law so always check with your AHJ.
A variation would be to use his hollow chisel mortise in the shop to get the flat hole first then drill up into the void. It can then be plugged with a square 'Dutchman" with waterproof glue. They make those bolt and barrel quick connects for furniture and newel posts but that wouldn't work outdoors I don't think unless you can get it in ss.
The base end grain can be primed or sealed to stop moisture migration, too but the membrane is a new twist.
Wonder how well that galvanized coating on the all-thread will hold up in his damp environment with the tannic acid of the cedar. If no budget concerns, get 316 ss and it will last a century.
What wasn't shown and is critical is the sub base the all thread nut and washer bear on. If this is thin or weak it could fail as the failure mode for this post system is tension on the rod which would tend to act as a lever. The force transferred might crush the fibers of the joist sufficiently that if it isn't dead center drilled it might fail. We've had a LOT of deck failures in the East with a lot of injuries so this is serious. One way to strengthen this system is to enlarge the footprint of the post by using a 6"x6", which spreads the load at the deck boards like a plinth.
Nice to see a craftsman taking the time for little details.
What you need to make for Alec Steele is a caddy for his hammers and drifts with a side holster for his water bottle and one on the other for his farrier's brush. Perhaps a rack, much like a bit index to hold all his hardies and fuller mandrels. Make it M&T in Greene x2 style. Enjoy your work Sammy.
You've got a beautiful life brother. I love your videos.
I started doing carpentry 30 years ago and I just want to say you do very fine work.
This video just solved the issue I was having. Going from a wood rail system to a vinyl rail system. Now the post trim will work for me. To much rain and sun(heat) in Jersey this summer. Thanks.
" Quick And Easy"
Damn, I like to what "time consuming and difficult" entails. Might have to be a multi-part series.
if you put the words quick and easy,how too, the truth about, you can make thousands of dollars or any of that other nonsence in your headline ...you get lots of views
Love the membrane trick. Wish I had thought of that when I built 3200 sq ft deck (40 X 80) for my parents house.
Daynaleo1 holy hell i built a 20×30 for my folks and it felt like a journey though hell to do alone. god bless you for that one pal.
I built a 120' x 400' deck for my parents, soooo.....
250'x 625' here! ;-)
My deck is bigger than yours! Waaaaaaaaaa! Must be Trumpturds on here
I used to do renovations and I can honestly say I've never seen such a post held in that way before. Way to do it.!!!
It's great that you put so much pride in work that s going to never get noticed by average people. Great craftsmanship sir
Magic schmagic. Bloody great work.
Great looking job! I guess my only potential concern is with boring a hole completely through a load-bearing span. I know it is a double rim joist, so it probably is fine, but still I just wonder what an inspector or an engineer would say.
a lady inspector might say "do you have time tonight?"
It looks neat, but I doubt that would meet code.
Love your videos Samurai, I'm a 26 year member of carpenters local #1977. I'm a metal stud and drywall carpenter and find what you do facinating! Greetings from beautiful Las Vegas Nevada brother!
Thanks, I wish that I knew of this method thirty-five years ago but it's never too late. Nice job you are doing there, Jesse.
I need to hire someone like you ....
I heard that your bearings are bad in the DeWalt. I had the same thing happen to me. so I took them out cleaned them up looked for damage there was none. the grease had just dried out not a very good quality. I used a great synthetic grease and now my saw will start at below 0 if need be. you can get the seals off by using a fine pick then they'll snap back in place you might want spin them up to there will be some loss of grease just clean up and put back together.
Nice job on the post and an inspiration for us all watching. I have the same Affliction you do perfectionism is a hard thing to live up to every time but I seem to do it as you do. thank you for your ideas and tutorials you make all of our work a little better.
Good technique! Appreciate the craftsmanship!!! See too many guys just slap things together these days.
It is so good to watch someone who cares about doing things so precisely.
Very interesting techniques for sure. I particularly enjoy the consideration of reducing the potential for long term moisture damage. I am very interested in seeing what you have in store for the rail corners, I'm betting it's gonna b pretty schweeeet.
Samuriason what's your plan on the corner having post set back looks like 6 to 8 in
Jami's Jamz prolly a 2 post corner.
Jami's Jamz was wondering the same thing!
When he was installing the outer trim pieces he said he was going to set the posts back and have the railings float in the corner
Trust the samurai. he always a step ahead. those corners are going to be real nice.
would look super sexy if he half lapped the rail like he did the trim board and had the triple tiered floating halflap corner!!
I'm still waiting for the "quick and easy" part
Pay somebody to do it if that’s what your waiting for
Your attention to details is unbelievable. Great work.
beautiful . I was wondering how to put post's in that would look clean . love the corner's too. I think I ll use that on my next deck . you got some skills kid . thank's for the tip.
I've never seen anybody build a deck with wood that looked so green before😥
I'm always expecting the samurai to say "Damn I'm Pretty" Johnny Bravo style lol
Has the right hair cut for it.
I love that you take the time to explain everything as you're doing it. SUBSCRIBED!
I like the shaping of the post. It's attention to detail that makes the difference between a good job and great job.
Pocket screws and needing shims? Starting to speak my language now!
SpicyFPV threaded rod and packer
Alec Steele says he wants a tool vest like yours for his hammers and chisels.
Black smithing aint hard enough eh? Strap another 50 pounds in hammers and chisels to your back..
Bud been in the trade my whole life, And still learning!!
Love your work!!!
Well, I came looking for advice to install railings. I found an artist. Who has mastered his craft. Well done partner. Wish I could afford your services!
This dude obviously gets paid by the hour.
Al E Gator it’s instructional bro I’m sure if he had to get it done he could , also takes allot of pride in what he does
NO
It’s more likely that he charges what he’s worth, instead of trying to undercut everyone else. Quality work earns quality money.
That’s quality work .
Pocket Screws?!? * Sharp intake of breath while clutching at pearls *
:)
That was cool. I like the method that seems like that would hold up long-term. Deck is coming along nicely.
Great work. All the joining areas look nice and clean. Would love to see a finished video or the stairs and rail. Thanks
..."Quick and easy"...2 days and 16 hours later one post installed.
Lmfao
By the end of summer he will be able to enjoy it. For many many years
🤣🤣 I though the same thing
Excellent woodworking but a bit of overkill... like building a piano.
Surely there is easier way to attach post without all that. Im off to find that video. He does do good work though. Eye for detail pays big money.
Nice system but it wont pass inspection here in California.
Good thing he doesn't live in California then, eh?
Yeah, I unfortunately do though. lol
won't pass inspection in any state ....
won't pass inspection in any state ....
John S what is code for this is cali
Gotta say, this is a great idea. It holds for Bed rails really well and if things ever compress, just tighten the bolts. I look forward to trying this. Just wish I had access to the wonderful materials (read, nice wood) you get up in the north. Florida isn't so good for that. Though we have cypress for miles.
Love the craftsmanship! Work to be proud of for sure. I would plug the hole even though it’ll be covered up by the rails to prevent water intrusion.
insane in the brain. ...
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Looks great! But quick and easy?!🤣🤣🤣
Nothing quick and easy about this video
Awesome video & info, thanks! Beautiful post, love the extra effort. Well done! And thanks for the lapel mic, superb audio! Can't believe how many videos are destroyed by short-sighted audio!
You make some great videos. I will probably be doing my own deck project, and I like the way you finished off that post.
what is quick and easy about that?
wow, posted 1 minute ago and already 41 views when it opened for me. someone has got fans with nothing else to do. (yeah, I know, I am apparently in that group)
Very helpful. I've been looking for something like this...thank you!
Enjoyed watching the technique. Enjoy your videos. Will be doing a slab table top soon after watching your work. Thanks.
more like Free Tip Saturday
In my experience the inspectors arent smart enough to tell which way the job is done once it is finished.
euan cameron This is exactly my thought, with the rail installed most inspectors in my area would loom at the bottom and see a big ol bolt and sign off. Codes vary state to state, county to county, even city to city. Just cause it doesn't meet national code doesn't mean to doesn't comply with local code. National code is simply a reference, a starting point for local jurisdictions. Hell more then half the land in the US still has no building codes if you don't include electrical. I'd trust this hand rail to hold my 400 pound uncle leaning on it with my nephew.
I love how you connect the post with all thread. Nice job
Nice job! Done neatly and professionally. I like your tutorial videos
"Super quick and convenient", that looked like a lot of time and effort for a deck post. Pilot hole + long lag bolt= done
Sadly, I'm competing with 2 other quotes usually when I'm budgeting for a customers new deck and there is no money to pay me for my time to apply these thoughtful methods that do require you to slow down and create real woodwork. I did a full college apprenticeship and don't often have time to work the way I was trained.
I hear you, that's one of the reasons I decided to retire at 62. I got tired of telling my customers they had two options, either do cheap or do it right. Far too many decided to choose option one and I just couldn't do that kind of work.
I hope we can look forward to a video about the deck. I would be really interested to see your take on alot of the processes.
ive done posts all kinds of different ways. never thought of doing them like this. awesome. and excellent video
“How to install handrails quick and easy” (in the event you have tons of professional woodworking tools, or own a carpentry business)
What is a bastard file?
Brendan Stanford big ass file with straight teeth, I believe
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So its just a coarse cut file. I've always heard others call them a rasp. But a rasp doesn't have straight teeth. Well I learned my learnins for the day
I believe it is a file which has no father or its father went out to buy cigarettes and never returned.
Brendan Stanford between coarse and second cut, according to Google
gah damn man, i love your old school Makita as well. those drills have almost infinite torque once it gains momentum. Excellent technique by the way, from the deck-view it looks like the post goes through the deck to the framework. you are a badass man
VERY COOL FIXTURE FOR DECK POSTS . I WAS TAUGHT TO LEAVE POST COME UP THROUGH DECK AND CUT DECK AROUND POST. THE WAY YOU DID THIS IS GOING TO BE FUN TO DO AND WILL TRY OUT ON MY NEXT BUILD . THANKS FOR THE TIP. GOD'S SPEED. FROM OHIO .
You'll have to tighten that bolt over time as the joist shrinks.
David Hansen, easier than replacing it.
Double sided tape on the bottom of the post and four 18 gage brad nails toed in through the bottom of the post into the decking is all you need. more time to drink! no leaning on the rails!!!!
tom brown lol
tom brown I think I might have fixed some of your railings lol
headless pins work better ;)
No leaning in the rails unless you have an X your trying to get rid of. LMAO
that is a great technique--I'm getting ready to resurface our deck and refit handrails--thank you!!
I can see by some of the comments below that the "Screw it gitter done!" attitude is still alive and ramped Nice to see "quality" and pride in your work still done. Kudos Samurai1. .
Why in the hell you want a post right there instead of the corner?
“Not” quick and easy.
Unbelievable craftsmanship!
Did this on a post i put in for my garden gate last night. Looks awesome!
I personally feel like that's a lot of bullshit..but, to each his own.
my gawd. none of my clients would pay what it would cost to build to this detail.
this is not a $12/ ft deck
Why are you shimming? Isn't that lazy craftsmanship for the Samurai?
Hmm if the deck was level and the post was cut at 90 degrees then there wouldn't be any need for shims
Not necessarily. You're not account for imperfections in the deck board, the post, nor the saw blade itself.
Really nice work. Thanks for taking time to share your skills. technique and aesthetic considerations. Maah-vel-iss!
Very good Idea. Working on a large deck myself and will try this on my railings. 👍