I've been offroading for 27 yrs and what I have learned is the importance of a well communicating spotter, radios and facetime on iphones helps a lot, especially when the camera is facing the vehicle to see what it's doing from the cockpit. Wheeling alone without proper self recovery isn't the smartest thing either, consider a winch and the appropriate satellite communicator .. we get too many folks that need rescue out here in the desert and many trails are getting shut down do to it amongst other issues. consider a buddy, 2 vehicles are always better than one, especially out there as you can see a few trucks totalled. Be safe!
We don't wheel without recovery gear. We have jacks, a full set of tools, recovery boards, straps, shovels, etc on board. We don't have a winch yet because the aftermarket on these trucks needs to catch up to get an aftermarket front bumper that supports mounting a winch. We do have a Garmin Inreach just in case of emergencies for communication and unfortunately majority of the time, our schedule doesn't line up with others when we go offroading/camping for extended amounts of time so we often wheel alone. We offroad as safe as possible and certain obstacles we have come across before and decided to turn around as it wasn't worth the risk.
People who use their trucks seriously always take the line of least resistance, the easiest route, so as to ensure they reach their destination without inconvenience, unnecessary cost and damage. Trails are tough enough without too much drama. Maybe I’m missing some people’s point but I find it as interesting to find the easy line where there is one. Must admit that mine are work trucks that I take some little pride in working hard but with mechanical sympathy. You do make great videos out of your kind of driving though. Mine would be quite boring and not have any viewers.
Majority of these trails the line of least resistance is the line I'm taking. They are difficult trails to begin with with no other options to take. I use the trucks the way they were designed to be used. As far as mechanical sympathy I change my oils far more frequently than majority of people do due to the fact of abuse the components go under.
I don't disagree with you, however I think it depends on where you are in your driving progression. There is great value in learning the limits of your driving and the vehicle before you get into something where you have no options. This truck is still new to them, so avoiding every tough obstacle is wasting an opportunity to learn and refine skills. I occasionally do this myself, as a tune up, even though I have been wheeling for literally 50 years. Mostly I do take the easiest routes. Vehicle sympathy is a thing, but I think it has more to do with how you drive an obstacle than the obstacle itself (within reason of course). Most of the trail breakdowns that I have seen are either due to bad driving or lack of maintenance.
@@Dav-S5658 He did state at the beginning he put new 35s on the truck and wanted to see what they could do. I still have the 33 on the 2024 ZR2 and would have taken the easier routes that I could see in some of the trails. He did say that one was mandatory, no way around it. 33s, I think I would need a winch. Would not do it alone.
I find it interesting people stack rocks while they have some maxtrax on the side of their rig. Those things make awesome bridging tools to get over or off ledges much easier, yet people only seem to reach for them when stuck.
They technically aren't meant for bridging tools as they typically just flex out of the way. I have them there more so for sand, snow and mud which they have been used plenty of times in those situations and have gotten me unstuck. Rock stacking is just something that I've always done even before I had traction boards.
Maybe in the future walk the trail that you’re not sure about and talk about with your spotter before you get into a difficult situation.. what you don’t want to hear from your spotter is (I don’t know) 😮
New to the channel. I like the full size trail perspective. I travel similar trails in my Tacoma. Very good video to watch. I've been on the Box Canyon and Crown King trails. I know it's a learning process, so this is not a criticism, but the spotter will hopefully gain confidence over time and be willing to make more decisive decisions. Giving you options that you can't possibly sort out from the drivers seat is both frustrating and unproductive. Giving clear and unemotional directions is the key. Having a good spotter who knows how the truck will react to the terrain is invaluable. I don't know how much she drives, but some wheel time will help a lot. For the record two of the absolute best spotters I know are women. I mostly travel solo, so I Installed cameras and special mirrors to assist me in tough spots. As you pointed out, there are many cases where getting out to look is extremely unsafe. I look forward to seeing more from you guys.
I appreciate your kind words. The Colorado is actually a midsize truck comparable to your Tacoma. She is a bit hesitant as it is a brand new platform we got and a bit different in dimensions and the way it handles obstacles than our previous Ford Ranger. Time will help you get comfortable with the challenges and more seat time is definitely in the works!
Much larger than just a pothole. The camera makes that obstacle look like nothing. The angle of the hill and the offset holes are much larger that what it seems
I was gonna ask if you had to trim to fit the 35s... The obstacle right around 17 minutes answered that question! Amazing truck, I have one on order from the dealer.
Yeah, I had just put the 35s right before this trip, and hadn't had any testing with rubbing. It has been fixed since. You will love this truck its awesome and very capable.
@@outlandishoverland what was the effort involved to fix it? Also, my wife and I volunteer as companions in any Colorado (the state) endeavors once the truck comes in!
@@P3PP3RX I put some lift blocks in the rear and took out 2 screws that helped hold the fender flare in place and on my testing recently under full articulation no more rubbing. The front rubs a little but still need to work on fixing that. We have a trip planned in Colorado July 4th weekend to go do Engineer Pass, Imogene Pass, etc...
Do you know what Chevy does to the ZR2 Bison to fit 35"s? I saw your comments about adding the front 1" spacer and rear shackle, do they maybe have different offset wheels ? I guess a nerf bar added to the sliders would help save the sheet metal next time. Still a great looking and plenty capably looking truck by the looks of it.
@@jamesguld3607 so the Bison has a 1/4 inch spacer in the front and a 1/2 lift block for the rear. The biggest difference if they have a less aggressive offset which helps out with the clearance.
Awesome video. What was the last camp spot and how do you get there. I sent just a screen shot of that sunset, and I already have 4 people that want to do it. Absolutely beautiful. Is it on onX? what do I search? Love your adventures.
It is a breathtaking spot. Sorry I don't give the really good spots out but would recommend just going out and exploring. Thats how I ended up finding that spot.
Make it a priority to come out West it's well worth it. Been running good with 35s, just had to address the rubbing when articulating which has been fixed, in the rear at least.
Wow. That looked sweet. I'd be devastated if I scratched my ranger like that. I found you when you had your ranger, how is the Colorado compared to the ranger? That Colorado is and looks like a beast. Nice vid
Thanks! The Colorado compared to the Ranger is a huge step up in every way. Absolutely no regrets trading it in, even though the Ranger was a great truck
Please don’t curse me for asking but is there for all or most of these trails also a “easy” version? That people with really low experience, to none get out there and up to some nice spots?
@@hoch_und_runter For these specific trails there is no easy version. I'm sure you can find some other trails in remote area that are a bit easier. I would recommend using apps like Trails off-road or OnX.
@@outlandishoverlandthank you for your answer. I am from the east coast and need to make my way all to the west. So I need to be careful am I doing since I have to use my truck for daily tasks as well. I will take a look into these apps, maybe that shows me some trails on the east cost as well 😊
I have a 1" leveled up lift up front and a 1" lift shackle in the rear. Winch is definitely in the works but need the aftermarket to catch up so I have bumpers to mount a winch to. The only option right now is the Victory 4x4 one and I'm not a fan of the design.
@@Travisj9935 No didn't notice any ride quality difference. I didn't go 2 due to since I have all the weight on the back a 2" lift would have given my truck a squat.
One pedal driving is terrible. I don't want to always brake when I let off the throttle, I like to be fully in control of the vehicle and the terrain mode prevents me from doing that. Not sure what you mean I'm going to fast as I am going pretty slow over obstacles....
Yes I do, but the thing with the cameras is they don't do a good job at showing depth and size of the objects, just like filming these obstacles make them look way smaller than they actually are.
They are helpful in a lot of situations. Getting around big rocks using the side cameras and under body cameras. Front camera is also great for coming up on big hills to see whats on the other side.
I've been offroading for 27 yrs and what I have learned is the importance of a well communicating spotter, radios and facetime on iphones helps a lot, especially when the camera is facing the vehicle to see what it's doing from the cockpit. Wheeling alone without proper self recovery isn't the smartest thing either, consider a winch and the appropriate satellite communicator .. we get too many folks that need rescue out here in the desert and many trails are getting shut down do to it amongst other issues. consider a buddy, 2 vehicles are always better than one, especially out there as you can see a few trucks totalled. Be safe!
We don't wheel without recovery gear. We have jacks, a full set of tools, recovery boards, straps, shovels, etc on board. We don't have a winch yet because the aftermarket on these trucks needs to catch up to get an aftermarket front bumper that supports mounting a winch. We do have a Garmin Inreach just in case of emergencies for communication and unfortunately majority of the time, our schedule doesn't line up with others when we go offroading/camping for extended amounts of time so we often wheel alone. We offroad as safe as possible and certain obstacles we have come across before and decided to turn around as it wasn't worth the risk.
People who use their trucks seriously always take the line of least resistance, the easiest route, so as to ensure they reach their destination without inconvenience, unnecessary cost and damage. Trails are tough enough without too much drama. Maybe I’m missing some people’s point but I find it as interesting to find the easy line where there is one. Must admit that mine are work trucks that I take some little pride in working hard but with mechanical sympathy. You do make great videos out of your kind of driving though. Mine would be quite boring and not have any viewers.
Majority of these trails the line of least resistance is the line I'm taking. They are difficult trails to begin with with no other options to take. I use the trucks the way they were designed to be used. As far as mechanical sympathy I change my oils far more frequently than majority of people do due to the fact of abuse the components go under.
I don't disagree with you, however I think it depends on where you are in your driving progression. There is great value in learning the limits of your driving and the vehicle before you get into something where you have no options. This truck is still new to them, so avoiding every tough obstacle is wasting an opportunity to learn and refine skills. I occasionally do this myself, as a tune up, even though I have been wheeling for literally 50 years. Mostly I do take the easiest routes. Vehicle sympathy is a thing, but I think it has more to do with how you drive an obstacle than the obstacle itself (within reason of course). Most of the trail breakdowns that I have seen are either due to bad driving or lack of maintenance.
@@Dav-S5658 He did state at the beginning he put new 35s on the truck and wanted to see what they could do. I still have the 33 on the 2024 ZR2 and would have taken the easier routes that I could see in some of the trails. He did say that one was mandatory, no way around it. 33s, I think I would need a winch. Would not do it alone.
Its pretty cool how you guys communicate your way through those obstacles.
Thanks. That's what a few years of offroading together gets you 🤟
I find it interesting people stack rocks while they have some maxtrax on the side of their rig. Those things make awesome bridging tools to get over or off ledges much easier, yet people only seem to reach for them when stuck.
They technically aren't meant for bridging tools as they typically just flex out of the way. I have them there more so for sand, snow and mud which they have been used plenty of times in those situations and have gotten me unstuck. Rock stacking is just something that I've always done even before I had traction boards.
Great use of the Drone, soundtrack
Thank you!
Badges of honor, all part of the game. Good stuff 🤘
Yes it is, there will be plenty more in the future I'm sure
Great job navigating down that job with both of you being in a stressful situation A+ plus plus
Thank you, that's years of working together 🤟
Maybe in the future walk the trail that you’re not sure about and talk about with your spotter before you get into a difficult situation.. what you don’t want to hear from your spotter is (I don’t know) 😮
Oh we always walk the big obstacles and discuss it before hand. She just froze up as I had fallen off of the original line we had discussed.
Your partner does a really good job placing rocks to get you out of a sticky situation.
Yes she does! She is fantastic
New to the channel. I like the full size trail perspective. I travel similar trails in my Tacoma. Very good video to watch. I've been on the Box Canyon and Crown King trails. I know it's a learning process, so this is not a criticism, but the spotter will hopefully gain confidence over time and be willing to make more decisive decisions. Giving you options that you can't possibly sort out from the drivers seat is both frustrating and unproductive. Giving clear and unemotional directions is the key. Having a good spotter who knows how the truck will react to the terrain is invaluable. I don't know how much she drives, but some wheel time will help a lot. For the record two of the absolute best spotters I know are women. I mostly travel solo, so I Installed cameras and special mirrors to assist me in tough spots. As you pointed out, there are many cases where getting out to look is extremely unsafe. I look forward to seeing more from you guys.
I appreciate your kind words. The Colorado is actually a midsize truck comparable to your Tacoma. She is a bit hesitant as it is a brand new platform we got and a bit different in dimensions and the way it handles obstacles than our previous Ford Ranger. Time will help you get comfortable with the challenges and more seat time is definitely in the works!
Siick!! More 3rd gen creators! 🤘🏼 great stuff!
Thanks!
Nice rig. The rock sliders with the kick out would of been nice at that moment at 24:30
Thank you! That is definitely in the works to upgrade the sliders, sooner than later.
Minute 11 you were scared of that pothole and that was nothing for that beast!
Much larger than just a pothole. The camera makes that obstacle look like nothing. The angle of the hill and the offset holes are much larger that what it seems
Great vid.
Thank you!
I was gonna ask if you had to trim to fit the 35s... The obstacle right around 17 minutes answered that question! Amazing truck, I have one on order from the dealer.
Yeah, I had just put the 35s right before this trip, and hadn't had any testing with rubbing. It has been fixed since. You will love this truck its awesome and very capable.
@@outlandishoverland what was the effort involved to fix it? Also, my wife and I volunteer as companions in any Colorado (the state) endeavors once the truck comes in!
@@P3PP3RX I put some lift blocks in the rear and took out 2 screws that helped hold the fender flare in place and on my testing recently under full articulation no more rubbing. The front rubs a little but still need to work on fixing that. We have a trip planned in Colorado July 4th weekend to go do Engineer Pass, Imogene Pass, etc...
Do you know what Chevy does to the ZR2 Bison to fit 35"s? I saw your comments about adding the front 1" spacer and rear shackle, do they maybe have different offset wheels ? I guess a nerf bar added to the sliders would help save the sheet metal next time. Still a great looking and plenty capably looking truck by the looks of it.
@@jamesguld3607 so the Bison has a 1/4 inch spacer in the front and a 1/2 lift block for the rear. The biggest difference if they have a less aggressive offset which helps out with the clearance.
Awesome video. What was the last camp spot and how do you get there. I sent just a screen shot of that sunset, and I already have 4 people that want to do it. Absolutely beautiful. Is it on onX? what do I search? Love your adventures.
It is a breathtaking spot. Sorry I don't give the really good spots out but would recommend just going out and exploring. Thats how I ended up finding that spot.
Amazing video, can’t wait to go out west with my truck one day. How’s the truck running on 35’s.
Make it a priority to come out West it's well worth it. Been running good with 35s, just had to address the rubbing when articulating which has been fixed, in the rear at least.
Wow. That looked sweet. I'd be devastated if I scratched my ranger like that. I found you when you had your ranger, how is the Colorado compared to the ranger? That Colorado is and looks like a beast. Nice vid
Thanks! The Colorado compared to the Ranger is a huge step up in every way. Absolutely no regrets trading it in, even though the Ranger was a great truck
@@outlandishoverland great to hear sir!!
I also subscribed because of watching that you guys did a great job and showed good professionalism
Thanks for subscribing and the kind words!
Do you still have your ZR2 wheels? I live in Phoenix and want some for my new Colorado Trail Boss!
I do still have them. For the right price, I could sell them to you.
Dude I wish I went 😭😭
You missed out 😔
With 35’s and a 1inch lift, have you noticed any issues with rubbing?
I'm guessing you haven't watched the video in its entirety 🤣
I guess I’ll have to wait and see 😂
Please don’t curse me for asking but is there for all or most of these trails also a “easy” version? That people with really low experience, to none get out there and up to some nice spots?
@@hoch_und_runter For these specific trails there is no easy version. I'm sure you can find some other trails in remote area that are a bit easier. I would recommend using apps like Trails off-road or OnX.
@@outlandishoverlandthank you for your answer. I am from the east coast and need to make my way all to the west. So I need to be careful am I doing since I have to use my truck for daily tasks as well. I will take a look into these apps, maybe that shows me some trails on the east cost as well 😊
Which lift did you go with to run 35's? Going out alone like that.. Yall need to invest in a winch
I have a 1" leveled up lift up front and a 1" lift shackle in the rear. Winch is definitely in the works but need the aftermarket to catch up so I have bumpers to mount a winch to. The only option right now is the Victory 4x4 one and I'm not a fan of the design.
@@outlandishoverland did the front 1" spacer lift alter the ride comfort any? Why not go 2"? 😅
@@Travisj9935 No didn't notice any ride quality difference. I didn't go 2 due to since I have all the weight on the back a 2" lift would have given my truck a squat.
@@outlandishoverland which offset of wheel did you go with? Do you think that would make a difference with the rubbing?
@@Travisj9935 It is a +0 offset. Probably if you went less aggressive would probably help eliminate rubbing.
Next time use the Terrain mode, one pedal driving makes easier to modulate throttle/brakes.
You going too fast, slow down a bit.
One pedal driving is terrible. I don't want to always brake when I let off the throttle, I like to be fully in control of the vehicle and the terrain mode prevents me from doing that. Not sure what you mean I'm going to fast as I am going pretty slow over obstacles....
Are u using the cameras?
Yes I do, but the thing with the cameras is they don't do a good job at showing depth and size of the objects, just like filming these obstacles make them look way smaller than they actually are.
@@outlandishoverland understood. definitely familiar with camera shots and angles. maybe an opinion on how helpful they really are?
They are helpful in a lot of situations. Getting around big rocks using the side cameras and under body cameras. Front camera is also great for coming up on big hills to see whats on the other side.
The 2024 taco would never make it.Just ask TFL.If couldn’t make it over a small little hill.
The ZR2 is a beast 🤟
They fixed the issue bro