@SunSolSys, I see your pending comment picking up on the connection to the very real Salla, who also digs... so to speak. Sadly, this channel gets ignored, demoted or outright attacked over the sharing of some topics and people that are far too quickly dismissed in the mind of the general population based on the use of LOADED LANGUAGE to implement the APPEAL TO EMOTION logical fallacy. Rational Wiki, for example, attempts to demotivate interest in MES with harsh, ridiculing language that is not at all rational. The other difficulty is that some want to use my effort with this channel to promote their profiteering publications... rather than simply exchange factual information in an open Q&A. As an example... consider this question as a way of addressing Rational Wiki's slam of MES. MES_Q001. Why was Salla dismissed from American University?
@@TomOwensUAP I would presume the obvious, just that his views were against the grain in somewhat eccentric. John Mack suffered the same type of criticism when Harvard actually audited him for potential removal of tenure, due to the allegation that he was imposing beliefs of aliens on persons via hypnosis. What is interesting though is college professors impose all types of viewpoints especially political on students.
@@SunSolSys I appreciate you following through with a reply on this. One of the biggest problems the channel faces is that so many (not you) want to use it to drop "drive-by" summary dismissal comments without getting into the factual details which could undermine their beliefs, assumptions, and world-view. Others seek to inject false statements (not you) in attempts to discredit. Under the Learning Principle of PRIMACY... I have to carefully filter everything if I don't have the time to quickly respond in detail. Regarding Michael E. Salla and American University: 1. Back in the late 1980s, the New York Times outed American University as one of the top recruiting sources for the Central Intelligence Agency along with Georgetown University, George Washington University, and the University of Maryland. This is a non-speculative factual point that we must keep handy in the back of our heads whenever evaluating any decisions regarding AU. 2. In the summer of 2004, George Noory asked Michael Salla about his dismissal from AU and Salla answered and eventually delivered written evidence in the form of a key 18 FEB 2004 Washington Post Article on the alleged 1954 Eisenhower ET Meeting, his 13 May 2004 termination letter, and several other items of correspondence to clearly show that there was nothing unethical on Salla's behalf... it was all about ~someone behind the scenes~ working to immediately punish and undermine Salla's credibility over his high profile exposure of the alleged Ike 1954 ET encounter... making it look as if he had changed program goals... even though that Washington Post article clearly separated the two endeavors with the following two direct quotes from the article: a. "Salla stresses that his ET research is not connected with his work at AU's Center for Global Peace. The folks at the Center for Global Peace are also quite eager to stress that fact." b. "The research that Michael Salla is doing is not research that he is conducting on behalf of the center or in collaboration with the center," says Betty Sitka, associate director of the Center for Global Peace. "This is his own personal research." 3. The evolution of correspondence really does point to some external pressure. I have a video that I made on this sometime ago, but never uploaded because of the stigma. I will look for it and get it up soon. See my question to you in the next comment.
@TomOwensUAP this is fascinating, great information! What you say serves to give great credit to Salla for his dedication, which underscores his instinct that the phenomenon he is dedicated to is real... One can presume that in those earlier years when he left the university that his dedication was based on ernest inquiry and craving to dig as you say and find the truth. Decades later enter me and my research... And it is much more complicated now because a snapshot in present day can frame his work as an opportunistic ploy to exploit mystery as a commodity for earning a living, a notion that is also greatly supported if you are to view his close supporting players as thespians and the entire thing just a great big show! Sticking with the principal of primacy, for example the Monroe institute in the 70s would have broadcasts of contactees who would give a testimony that was very general, pointing to a need for peace and love and a higher vibrational frequency among society, but never getting specific enough to make it palpable.... If we envision this as a trick of the trade, the same thing would occur honey repeated basis through many repeated ufologists who seemed to cling to their one or two key sources which in turn then propel their activities into conferences and other actions that are great sources of revenue generation that could sustain rather comfortable if not luxurious lifestyles... I see this repeatedly with some of the most curious contacts. For example. You stated earlier that you did not want to write a book because you wanted to stay away from that stigma yourself... However it would not be a stigma if the people just explained it. For example if I am to host a conference that is dedicated to disclosure well then there's nothing stopping me from posting a transparent budget of the entire event showing who got paid how much when and where. In fact I was a conference promoter for the government at one point so it is not a hard budget to create and share. Similarlly let's look at the Montauk project which I was just recently studying. Stewart Swerdlow was one of the persons who was supposedly abducted and used during those Montauk experiments as a boy. On the one hand based on my studying of MK ultra this is a very plausible/ credible possibility. Sidney Gotlieb was making these sort of projects happen all over the world! However when we look at Stewart, he has in modern-day created his own organization that is teaching people to defend against crazy spiritual stuff.. so as you can see we can look at this different ways. However one way that I look at it and like I mentioned before is I always assume truth from the beginning rather than the other way around and then if truth dangles lower and breaks apart so be it but I will not cause that to happen it must happen on itself. But anyways in his case we can look at him living in a nice house and having this off the past organization as a method of financial gain and it being a complete scam! Or...... We can look at it as just a natural human adaptation to create a income in survival for itself based on what it knows... a person like him even if his organization is claimed to be the almighty tell all it doesn't mean that that aspect is true, but it also would not discredit his real experience. For example take child abuse, many of the children who are abused grow up later to live interesting lives in perform careers and interesting things based on on the original experience that they had. Whatever they go into later in life to make a career and earn money to live with does not discredit their original experience and it also does not translate perfectly backwards as an onlooker might expect to see. For example an onlooker might expect that Stewart should literally be able to be correct in everything he says... But that is a illogical fallacy because Stewart is just somebody that had an experience and all he really should be expected to do is to manifest his own interpretation of that experience that happened to him and also at the same time find a way to survive in society given the tools he has.
I have read and heard a lot about buried space arcs Dr. Michael Salla. In fact he has a professed ex army witness, "JP" who has visited these alleged arcs. The curious thing about JP's character if you watch his interviews, is that he is portrayed as a purest heart innocence, similar to a dog pet. (Which not to go on too much of an aside but my humerus commentary is that sure, humans were never intended to touch the ark but trust me there are a lot of things in my house and my Corgi dog was not intended to touch and somehow he did!) So if true, it is no wonder only he is one who leads entery into these arcs and that the military sends him in first and that sort of thing... If his story is true I have long suspected he is either a chip implante that the government uses as a biological camera or he is a bonafide hybrid. He was cast perfectly for either of those roles, if you study him. He is naive but with so much love and innocence, someone with great intentions but also still has not had the capacity to digest and understand completely the world around him... So this video echos my sentiment above and somewhat makes a comparison that unless there is the establishment of this pure love that has been described l, then humans remain forbid to touch higher technology plateus and may as well be banished from the planet...so aliens can develop it more properly. My problem with this concept, because I have thought about it from all angles, is that despite whatever pop culture or other influences are available now to imbue the masses, we cannot convert humankind into a loving fabric of life while other things are in place, not to mention different governments and countries and languages but also, for example a capitalist system; instead you would need more of a Socratic system as described in Plato's Republic and also alleged to exist on SERPO and other alien societies where we divide talents at a young age and let people fulfill their lives that way. Then perhaps there is more honor and love for the collaboration of society and this newfound system may result in respect and love rather than competition mentalities. There is one way this could be accomplished. There is a wonderful RUclips video of a huge crowd and one person in the huge crowd starts doing a funny dance. And it catches on virally and the next thing you know everyone is. So if there was a small country where this experiment could be started it could possibly catch on. Otherwise existing countries are too deep in bureaucracy and it is a politically impossible task to make that type of change. Instead give me a small country with willing citizens, where I will not be instantly assassinated, and we could demonstrate this vision. Hope my point was clear, as that's about as much as I can patiently elaborate in a small RUclips text box using voice to text for now 😅
@SunSolSys, solid insight picking up on the connection to a controversial topic and figure. For starters of a reply, please see my pinned comment above. I will have to write more on the balance of what you provided... along with the Q&A I promised you on the Solfeggio Frequencies. On that subject, I will put this first question here and back on the other thread. Thank you for quality comments and.... Good Morning! SOLF_Q001. Have you seen this "pointed" connection between SoM and CE3K? ruclips.net/video/x60Syos5Pd4/видео.html
In the past few days I have been rethinking the best way to bring more peace and happiness to the world. As reflected in my comment above, I was initially heading in the direction of replicating a Planet SERPO / Plato's Republic type society even though it is rather boring on its face, since everyone is just doing the same thing they've been doing their whole lives as they are divided into contributory classes that in total make the society function as perfectly as possible.... However my new intervening thought is that it is quite possible even more peace and happiness can be achieved just through a society like we have now in the United States but with persons personalities somehow glossed over to be more christ-like and kind at heart with less criticisms and at the same time somehow the criminal element also falling to the wayside with persons no longer interested in doing things that cause pain to others. If a wave of brainwashing to this effect could occur then it would possibly receive the same result as my first idea. However I'm still chewing on the first idea but with some interesting modifications such as a way to organize into classes but also provide liberty. It's a thought in progress, an imagined manifesto more or less...
@@TomOwensUAP No... Unfortunately out of all my studies, this question draws me to an Avenue that I don't have the internal confidence yet to create inertia to study it... I don't say that out of disrespect, but I have yet to find a dispositive motive that justifies me spending the time on this one. But if you have any tip as to why I should take it more seriously or what I might have overlooked, that would be nice.. I did not reply previously because I did not want to say this just yet I wanted to let time for my thoughts to simmer but nothing significant emerged from that video. One of the big Hang-Ups I have here is that I originally started out questioning why close encounters would have used the musical format when there are tens of thousands of accounts of mental telepathy having occurred.. it just seemed redundant or a Hollywood tactic rather than something that would be necessary in conjunction with telepathy forms (direct or via implant, etc)
I wanted to thank you for bringing me back to this one as I also initiated a membership request to two of those Facebook groups maybe three. I did not go for all of them just yet. However I was curious as to one of them talking about ancient history says to proceed by discussing the anunnaki with caution.. I thought that was a interesting qualifying statement. I'm not an expert on that subject yet and I have a stack of books I have to finish reading on it but what I've digested so far tell us a story that parallels for example biblical stories with the addition of some Ezekiel type interpretations as to whether or not these persons were spacefaring. What is most interesting about anunnaki to me so far, is that it seems pretty clear that Mars was once an inhabited planet for potentially so, and if this was the truth being so similar to Earth environment then it gives anunnaki that much more potential veracity... (There's so much we could talk about let me put the phone down and read a book now lol)
...Well, after posting this comment above this morning, sure enough later this evening I discovered a passage that pushes back into this sonification idea: "At that point they said they wanted to show me something more, and just then this magnificent golden vessel moved towards the stars and passed through the rays of light emanating from them. As it did this, it made the most beautiful music I've ever heard. I can't describe it, but it was a soothing and wonderful music that seemed to radiate outward as the vessel passed through the rays of light. As I watched this happening, the light beings said there was one more thing they wanted to show me. The next thing I knew we were going down right into the sea." - Dorothy Izatt, p. 127 of "Contact with Beings of Light" (2003)
@SunSolSys, I see your pending comment picking up on the connection to the very real Salla, who also digs... so to speak. Sadly, this channel gets ignored, demoted or outright attacked over the sharing of some topics and people that are far too quickly dismissed in the mind of the general population based on the use of LOADED LANGUAGE to implement the APPEAL TO EMOTION logical fallacy. Rational Wiki, for example, attempts to demotivate interest in MES with harsh, ridiculing language that is not at all rational.
The other difficulty is that some want to use my effort with this channel to promote their profiteering publications... rather than simply exchange factual information in an open Q&A. As an example... consider this question as a way of addressing Rational Wiki's slam of MES.
MES_Q001. Why was Salla dismissed from American University?
@@TomOwensUAP I would presume the obvious, just that his views were against the grain in somewhat eccentric. John Mack suffered the same type of criticism when Harvard actually audited him for potential removal of tenure, due to the allegation that he was imposing beliefs of aliens on persons via hypnosis. What is interesting though is college professors impose all types of viewpoints especially political on students.
@@SunSolSys I appreciate you following through with a reply on this. One of the biggest problems the channel faces is that so many (not you) want to use it to drop "drive-by" summary dismissal comments without getting into the factual details which could undermine their beliefs, assumptions, and world-view. Others seek to inject false statements (not you) in attempts to discredit. Under the Learning Principle of PRIMACY... I have to carefully filter everything if I don't have the time to quickly respond in detail.
Regarding Michael E. Salla and American University:
1. Back in the late 1980s, the New York Times outed American University as one of the top recruiting sources for the Central Intelligence Agency along with Georgetown University, George Washington University, and the University of Maryland. This is a non-speculative factual point that we must keep handy in the back of our heads whenever evaluating any decisions regarding AU.
2. In the summer of 2004, George Noory asked Michael Salla about his dismissal from AU and Salla answered and eventually delivered written evidence in the form of a key 18 FEB 2004 Washington Post Article on the alleged 1954 Eisenhower ET Meeting, his 13 May 2004 termination letter, and several other items of correspondence to clearly show that there was nothing unethical on Salla's behalf... it was all about ~someone behind the scenes~ working to immediately punish and undermine Salla's credibility over his high profile exposure of the alleged Ike 1954 ET encounter... making it look as if he had changed program goals... even though that Washington Post article clearly separated the two endeavors with the following two direct quotes from the article:
a. "Salla stresses that his ET research is not connected with his work at AU's Center for Global Peace. The folks at the Center for Global Peace are also quite eager to stress that fact."
b. "The research that Michael Salla is doing is not research that he is conducting on behalf of the center or in collaboration with the center," says Betty Sitka, associate director of the Center for Global Peace. "This is his own personal research."
3. The evolution of correspondence really does point to some external pressure. I have a video that I made on this sometime ago, but never uploaded because of the stigma. I will look for it and get it up soon. See my question to you in the next comment.
@TomOwensUAP this is fascinating, great information! What you say serves to give great credit to Salla for his dedication, which underscores his instinct that the phenomenon he is dedicated to is real... One can presume that in those earlier years when he left the university that his dedication was based on ernest inquiry and craving to dig as you say and find the truth. Decades later enter me and my research... And it is much more complicated now because a snapshot in present day can frame his work as an opportunistic ploy to exploit mystery as a commodity for earning a living, a notion that is also greatly supported if you are to view his close supporting players as thespians and the entire thing just a great big show! Sticking with the principal of primacy, for example the Monroe institute in the 70s would have broadcasts of contactees who would give a testimony that was very general, pointing to a need for peace and love and a higher vibrational frequency among society, but never getting specific enough to make it palpable.... If we envision this as a trick of the trade, the same thing would occur honey repeated basis through many repeated ufologists who seemed to cling to their one or two key sources which in turn then propel their activities into conferences and other actions that are great sources of revenue generation that could sustain rather comfortable if not luxurious lifestyles... I see this repeatedly with some of the most curious contacts. For example. You stated earlier that you did not want to write a book because you wanted to stay away from that stigma yourself... However it would not be a stigma if the people just explained it. For example if I am to host a conference that is dedicated to disclosure well then there's nothing stopping me from posting a transparent budget of the entire event showing who got paid how much when and where. In fact I was a conference promoter for the government at one point so it is not a hard budget to create and share. Similarlly let's look at the Montauk project which I was just recently studying. Stewart Swerdlow was one of the persons who was supposedly abducted and used during those Montauk experiments as a boy. On the one hand based on my studying of MK ultra this is a very plausible/ credible possibility. Sidney Gotlieb was making these sort of projects happen all over the world! However when we look at Stewart, he has in modern-day created his own organization that is teaching people to defend against crazy spiritual stuff.. so as you can see we can look at this different ways. However one way that I look at it and like I mentioned before is I always assume truth from the beginning rather than the other way around and then if truth dangles lower and breaks apart so be it but I will not cause that to happen it must happen on itself. But anyways in his case we can look at him living in a nice house and having this off the past organization as a method of financial gain and it being a complete scam! Or...... We can look at it as just a natural human adaptation to create a income in survival for itself based on what it knows... a person like him even if his organization is claimed to be the almighty tell all it doesn't mean that that aspect is true, but it also would not discredit his real experience. For example take child abuse, many of the children who are abused grow up later to live interesting lives in perform careers and interesting things based on on the original experience that they had. Whatever they go into later in life to make a career and earn money to live with does not discredit their original experience and it also does not translate perfectly backwards as an onlooker might expect to see. For example an onlooker might expect that Stewart should literally be able to be correct in everything he says... But that is a illogical fallacy because Stewart is just somebody that had an experience and all he really should be expected to do is to manifest his own interpretation of that experience that happened to him and also at the same time find a way to survive in society given the tools he has.
I have read and heard a lot about buried space arcs Dr. Michael Salla. In fact he has a professed ex army witness, "JP" who has visited these alleged arcs. The curious thing about JP's character if you watch his interviews, is that he is portrayed as a purest heart innocence, similar to a dog pet. (Which not to go on too much of an aside but my humerus commentary is that sure, humans were never intended to touch the ark but trust me there are a lot of things in my house and my Corgi dog was not intended to touch and somehow he did!) So if true, it is no wonder only he is one who leads entery into these arcs and that the military sends him in first and that sort of thing... If his story is true I have long suspected he is either a chip implante that the government uses as a biological camera or he is a bonafide hybrid. He was cast perfectly for either of those roles, if you study him. He is naive but with so much love and innocence, someone with great intentions but also still has not had the capacity to digest and understand completely the world around him... So this video echos my sentiment above and somewhat makes a comparison that unless there is the establishment of this pure love that has been described l, then humans remain forbid to touch higher technology plateus and may as well be banished from the planet...so aliens can develop it more properly. My problem with this concept, because I have thought about it from all angles, is that despite whatever pop culture or other influences are available now to imbue the masses, we cannot convert humankind into a loving fabric of life while other things are in place, not to mention different governments and countries and languages but also, for example a capitalist system; instead you would need more of a Socratic system as described in Plato's Republic and also alleged to exist on SERPO and other alien societies where we divide talents at a young age and let people fulfill their lives that way. Then perhaps there is more honor and love for the collaboration of society and this newfound system may result in respect and love rather than competition mentalities. There is one way this could be accomplished. There is a wonderful RUclips video of a huge crowd and one person in the huge crowd starts doing a funny dance. And it catches on virally and the next thing you know everyone is. So if there was a small country where this experiment could be started it could possibly catch on. Otherwise existing countries are too deep in bureaucracy and it is a politically impossible task to make that type of change. Instead give me a small country with willing citizens, where I will not be instantly assassinated, and we could demonstrate this vision. Hope my point was clear, as that's about as much as I can patiently elaborate in a small RUclips text box using voice to text for now 😅
@SunSolSys, solid insight picking up on the connection to a controversial topic and figure. For starters of a reply, please see my pinned comment above. I will have to write more on the balance of what you provided... along with the Q&A I promised you on the Solfeggio Frequencies. On that subject, I will put this first question here and back on the other thread. Thank you for quality comments and.... Good Morning!
SOLF_Q001. Have you seen this "pointed" connection between SoM and CE3K?
ruclips.net/video/x60Syos5Pd4/видео.html
In the past few days I have been rethinking the best way to bring more peace and happiness to the world. As reflected in my comment above, I was initially heading in the direction of replicating a Planet SERPO / Plato's Republic type society even though it is rather boring on its face, since everyone is just doing the same thing they've been doing their whole lives as they are divided into contributory classes that in total make the society function as perfectly as possible.... However my new intervening thought is that it is quite possible even more peace and happiness can be achieved just through a society like we have now in the United States but with persons personalities somehow glossed over to be more christ-like and kind at heart with less criticisms and at the same time somehow the criminal element also falling to the wayside with persons no longer interested in doing things that cause pain to others. If a wave of brainwashing to this effect could occur then it would possibly receive the same result as my first idea. However I'm still chewing on the first idea but with some interesting modifications such as a way to organize into classes but also provide liberty. It's a thought in progress, an imagined manifesto more or less...
@@TomOwensUAP No... Unfortunately out of all my studies, this question draws me to an Avenue that I don't have the internal confidence yet to create inertia to study it... I don't say that out of disrespect, but I have yet to find a dispositive motive that justifies me spending the time on this one. But if you have any tip as to why I should take it more seriously or what I might have overlooked, that would be nice.. I did not reply previously because I did not want to say this just yet I wanted to let time for my thoughts to simmer but nothing significant emerged from that video. One of the big Hang-Ups I have here is that I originally started out questioning why close encounters would have used the musical format when there are tens of thousands of accounts of mental telepathy having occurred.. it just seemed redundant or a Hollywood tactic rather than something that would be necessary in conjunction with telepathy forms (direct or via implant, etc)
I wanted to thank you for bringing me back to this one as I also initiated a membership request to two of those Facebook groups maybe three. I did not go for all of them just yet. However I was curious as to one of them talking about ancient history says to proceed by discussing the anunnaki with caution.. I thought that was a interesting qualifying statement. I'm not an expert on that subject yet and I have a stack of books I have to finish reading on it but what I've digested so far tell us a story that parallels for example biblical stories with the addition of some Ezekiel type interpretations as to whether or not these persons were spacefaring. What is most interesting about anunnaki to me so far, is that it seems pretty clear that Mars was once an inhabited planet for potentially so, and if this was the truth being so similar to Earth environment then it gives anunnaki that much more potential veracity... (There's so much we could talk about let me put the phone down and read a book now lol)
...Well, after posting this comment above this morning, sure enough later this evening I discovered a passage that pushes back into this sonification idea: "At that point they said they wanted to show me something more, and just then this magnificent golden vessel moved towards the stars and passed through the rays of light emanating from them. As it did this, it made the most beautiful music I've ever heard. I can't describe it, but it was a soothing and wonderful music that seemed to radiate outward as the vessel passed through the rays of light. As I watched this happening, the light beings said there was one more thing they wanted to show me. The next thing I knew we were going down right into the sea." - Dorothy Izatt, p. 127 of "Contact with Beings of Light" (2003)