@@doldrums2009 From that voice it's Tommy the voice sounds a bit weird but yeah Tommy was a total psychopath Johnny was lost in his mind Bobby was the only one with decent empathy
Yeah no doubt. Although he does stick his nose into other people’s business, at the very least he tried to defend a girl and then defend himself too. He did pretty much such sucker punch Johnny when he got up though and that’s what led to the big time beating. Had he not done that, the fight never would have escalated.
I know right. Like Freddy got smacked by a fence from Daniel kicking it in the beginning. If they thought they could do better? One of them should of jumped in then and test their skills lol.
2:56 For the longest time I thought Ali was randomly being an asshole here for kicking the ball away but now I realize she saw Johnny and his gang coming and was trying to protect Daniel. Wow.
Absolutely correct. Ali would have recognised the bike sounds by then (they were dating for some time already) and saw them from far, and had to send Daniel away to protect him.
I've watched this film like 10-15 times and never realized this before. Thanks for pointing it out! She clearly looks as the lights of the bikes from Johnny's gang before she kicks the ball out. I always thought she just kicked it out for no particular reason before.
I like the attention to detail of Bobby always being the sympathetic one. Even in the background you see his facial expressions seeming worried about Daniel
@@percyjackson-y9d I couldn't care less which country the movie is from. It's called football. The full name is Association Football. That's the end of it.
@@Kmax12649 It might have been Dutch. Back in them old movies you couldn't tell who was talking and somebody speaks when the person's mouth isn't moving!
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaah. But, Johnny needed Kreese more. His parents were rich, and Daniel’s parents were poor. It was more like for Daniel to do Miyagi Do Karate.
@@Afineaddition karate kid : what if..? Version Kk1 : Johnny trains with miyagi and fights a ruthless Daniel trained by kreese Kk2: Johnny and miyagi goes to Okinawa and meets chozen and sato…then they fight to death. KK3: Johnny quits miyagi-do and trains with silver and kreese in cobra Kai Then he fights Barnes and defeats by using cobra Kai and miyagi-do tactics at the same time Kk4 the next karate kid: eh pretty much same
It was also weird that Daniel’s “friends” ditched him just because Johnny kicked his ass here. It’s not like Daniel was a coward and did go down swinging
Oh how far they've come: Daniel and Johnny are now best friends who rock out together to Eye of the Tiger in a limo with Chozen driven by Mike Barnes.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
they totally wasted mike barnes... he shudve been miguel's father... destroyed johnny over miguel... and took over cobra kai at the end of season 5 when silver was arrested, going into season 6 as the main bad guy and daniel's biggest fear... thats right, Daniel was more afraid of Barnes than anyone else and he did more shit to Daniel too... Wudve been an epic showdown.
I think we all need to just take a moment and focus our attention on the real victim in this clip - Ali's radio. It was having a great time on the beach, topping up its tan, playing some tunes and minding its own business before it was left a broken shell of its former self.
It always bothered me how Daniel got written off by his new friends because he got his ass kicked by a trained fighter lol like bro, none of y’all would have down better.
They kissed his ass when Daniel beat Johnny in the end tho. They was never his friends. Jason Voorhees got revenge for Danielson an striked one of them first in Jason lives in the RV lol
I don't think they wrote him off, more like they knew he'd be all right and didn't want to embarrass him more by making a big deal out of it so the let him be
True. He gave the best student of cobra kai a bloody nose and they still thought little of him just cause he didn't win. Those were definitely not friends.
@@harry_h2705 Shut the hell up! Sucker punch! Lol. Who made a dojo with the phrase, "Strike first, Strike Hard, No Mercy? Also yeah he did get whooped, but who got whooped later for a championship.
He didn't put his hand out at all to shake Dainel's hand. What are you talking about? Also Johny started the whole thing why shouldn't Daniel fight back. You must be a punk or something?
This scene is seen from another perspective knowing about Johnny's story ..., that is, I still believe that Daniel was the victim, but in Johny's expressions I don't see a bad guy ... just a frustrated and lost boy .
@@Boygonebad Wrong.. if Daniel would have minded his business the fight with Johnny doesn’t happen. He was the new kid and doesn’t even know Ali or Johnny. They obviously had a thing together and as a man you don’t step into people’s relationship business if it has nothing to do with you. Daniel being a simp he was got his ass beat. But hey at least he leaned karate and a life lesson through it all lol
They both seems like assholes. Daniel intervenes, Johnny push Daniel in the sand, Johnny tries to make amends but Daniel sucker punches him and call it even, then Johnny beats the shit out of Daniel and blames it on Ali. Perhaps Nadal is the real hero of Karate Kid lol
This scene is so nostalgic. For those who grew up in the real era, we all can relate. No Instagram No TicTok No DMs No Only-Fans No "Influencers" No Filter-Queens etc... We interacted with one another and developed social skills that devices can't teach. I remember plenty of times catching the eyes of a female and respectfully approaching asking for her house number lol. Hanging out with friends before /after class getting into fights in school becoming good friends with the same kids we fought. The 80s and 90s truly were the best.
Ironically though, Daniel grew up in Newark NJ and those Blonde California Surf Boy's wouldn't last a day in the Italian section of Newark ! The many Saints of Newark based on the beginning of the Soprano's was 100 percent accurate !
Good god the way he smiles at her and tries to impress her with the soccer moves. I know there were a lot of heartthrobs in the 80s but Ralph Macchio was in a unique class of his own.
How has no one mentioned that the real villain in the karate kid universe is Tommy? He sadistically points out Ali/Daniel to Johnny KNOWING it will set him off. Cobra Kai reveals that he obviously spent his whole youth jealous of Johnny which explains his sneery expression and how he jumped at the opportunity to rub salt in the fresh wound of Johnny's breakup with Ali. Years later, him revealing how he loved secretly was loving Ali the whole time explains his motivations. Also notice how he and Dutch egg Johnny on to escalate the physical violence on Daniel in this scene as well. I don't expect most people to get this because Tommy's movements are a lot more covert and go under the radar which is why people neglect to see him as a villain. But he has my vote for the true villain. Everyone else's movements (though rash and irresponsible) are somewhat understandable in the heat of the moment. Tommy was a sadist demonstrated throughout the WHOLE film from the very start all the way down to "get him a body bag" when Daniel was taking a beating in the final scene lol.
The screenplay describes this moment and Tommy himself as being semi impish/mischievous. He's definitely provoking Johnny. Though tbf Johnny probably would have noticed and gotten pissed off eventually whether Tommy pointed it out or not lolol.
Tommy and Bobby are kinda like the Devil and Angel on Johnny's shoulders in a way. Tommy is trying to egg Johnny on so he'll get pissed off, while Bobby is trying to calm down Johnny, encouraging him to forget about Ali and move on.
NOSTALGIA!!! I think I always related to being Daniel since that is my name, I was the new kid to school and that year we saw this movie in the gym on a rainy day. It became one of my favorite films to day. So glad the writers cared so much about the story that they put so much passion into progressing it into the show that's talked about everywhere. Team Miyagi-Do all the way!
I don't consider Daniel a bully, but he likes to stick his nose where it shouldn't go. Daniel shouldn't have picked up the radio and tried to hand it to Ali while she was in the middle of an argument with Johnny lol. He inserted himself into the situation and got his ass kicked for it. Realistically, he should have let Johnny and Ali handle their relationship stuff without feeling the need to try and win points with Ali or act like a white knight.
I'll admit that in Cobra Kai, after the school fight, one of the angry parents said to Daniel Bull**** I heard you were the real bully. I was laughing 😂. But why do people still think he’s the bully?
I heard that line & it instantly made me think of this video. I even said that he (the angry parent) must've watched it... ruclips.net/video/C_Gz_iTuRMM/видео.html
He should have just minded his own business at the beach or perhaps at least asked ali if she was alright if she needed any help instead of being a smart Alec and practically charging in with the radio as if He planned to steal it
@@greatest_bumble_bee_dude If you noticed Johnny actually did show mercy to Daniel when he said if he had enough, then Daniel gets a shot in, and then Johnny says no mercy before giving him the final beatdown.
@@epcotman32 dude i was searching for this one comment, like right? He did said no mercy but contained himself and had mercy. Like after this they did throw shots at Daniel but the one who went to the dojo to search revenge was Daniel
@@epcotman32 also the final beat down didn’t even know him out, it just hurt because Daniel was not really trying to fight, he was unprepared and never fought before probably( since he tried to get even) the beat down could have been worse honestly.
Johnny's character development is amazing. From a complete douche in KK1 to a lovable guy in CK. Daniel on the other hand I'm not so sure about. I feel like Daniel was slightly more likeable in KK than in CK.
Everything decides on director, Most stories are like this , The roles of their character is exactly opposite so there may be certain extended to the story. In short THEY CHANGE THE WHOLE STORY THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH KARATE KID 😮. Today movies changed too far
When Daniel went to Ali's aid, he was doing what any guy would do when wanting to impress a lady. He was also trying to help Ali whom Johnny was actually harassing. True, Daniel shouldn't have retaliated (and martial arts is strictly for defence), but Johnny deliberately goaded him into a fight to show his alpha-male dominance.
@@Pig_Shnitt As a man the best thing you should ever do is call the police. Especially if you see a group of guys where the girl is being harassed. In real life people get seriously injured or killed for doing what daniel did depending on the area. Johnny at least had the dignity to fight one on one. I've seen people get jumped for trying to play hero
@@Pig_Shnitt You only say that because we know what's going on. Real life you don't go through a group of guys trying to save the damsel in distress. Number 2 I believe daniel was the more antagonistic one throughout the movie. They had already fought johnny one fair and square. When they were playing soccer in school daniel got tackled and started fighting one of the cobra kais. He's a poor sport. Then the infamous halloween night where he pranked someone while they were using the toilet and mr miyagi the child beater came and saved daniel even though he was mainly in the wrong it doesn't take 5 6 people to beat someone they've already beaten up
I mean, I don’t see how that’s true. In Season 3 of Cobra Kai, neither he nor Daniel blamed her for *their* rivalry. They both admitted some fault in their rivalry. In this scene, she had already broken up with Johnny, and he wasn’t ready to move past her. She also didn’t ask Daniel to butt in like he did. Johnny should have listened to Bobby when he said, “Come on, man, forget it. It’s ancient history.” Words of wisdom, really. No wonder Bobby grew up to be a pastor.
Well, Ali did push him away when he wanted to talk which isn't okay. However, Johnny pushed Daniel away which made him a bad person. They both suck, Daniel is in the right.
@@godzillasimpson8357 No, Ralph Macchio was 23 when Karate Kid released in 1984. He was born in '61. Meaning he would've been around 21-22 during filming.
The most frustrating thing about this movie is how Freddie and his friends react to Daniel getting beat up. None of them would have ever had the courage to stand up to Johnny and face him one on one. They leave Daniel by himself on the beach, clown him after they see his black eye, etc. Then AFTER Daniel wins the tournament they have the nerve to come up and congratulate him like they were his buddies all along. Makes no sense lmao
One of my favorite movies. Daniel was so CUTE. I still get goosebumps watching this scene. I love the way he looks at her. Great chemistry. Wish I was her. lol
Johnny Lawrence was living the life back in the 80s Top student in Cobra Kai Dojo Had respect Friends Driving nice cars, riding nice bikes Dated several girls I envy Johnny. He had it all.
I like that Johnny isn't a completely evil highschool bully, he was mainly messing around with Daniel even after being heated with Ali but thanntakes it too far. Even seems like he feels bad about hurting Daniel. Don't get me wrong, he's still the bad guy in this situation. But makes his character is Cobra Kai that much more relatable as he's just a dude that made some wrong choices but has a good heart.
@@nahor88 Ali clearly wanted Johnny to leave her alone. Overpowered her with the radio and broke it. Daniel was the only one with enough balls to at least try and help her while everyone else was just scared. What Daniel did was pretty honorable
@@nahor88 Yeah its satire lol. Funny how y'all can't grasp that. Anyway, I've seen the actual movie and know the actual objective facts. Sorry you're so easily swayed though.
2:25 In Cobra Kai: Season 3: Mitch: Who’s up for a warm one? Hawk: Who the hell wants a warm beer? You didn’t bring an ice pack?! The heck outta here, man.
Honestly the first time I watched this movie I felt that Johnny was the villan and when Cobra Kai came out made reflect that Johnny maybe wasn't the villan I felt empathy for him
In Cobra Kai, Daniel sort of develops a petty rivalry with Johnny. For the instance, the restaurant scene. Johnny asks the waiter to write down their order and Daniel asks the waiter the exact same question, when Johnny already asked it. Also, Johnny told the waiter to not add something to the food, Daniel does the exact same thing.
@@elprodigiosojoker9224 but it wasn't him 100 percent his fault. Kreese taught him to be that way. And he wasn't that bac because he told Larusso at the end of their fight that "he's alright."
I liked Johnny when I first saw Karate Kid back in the day. At the end when Daniel Wins the tournament, Johnny gives him the trophy and says, "You're all right, Larusso. He earned my respect then.
If yall wonder why they left Daniel alone there are 2 reasons. 1) he was the new kid they barelly knew 2) they seem to be friendly towards Jhonny and his friends, just look at how they greet each other as they arrive.
Tommy and Dutch were definetely those sadistic friends, look how they enjoy the way Johnny discuss with Ali or treats her violently, and then how they laugh about Daniel. Bobby and Jimmy were the quiet ones.
It's funny how in the Karate Kid, you're totally rooting for Daniel, but in Cobra Kai, you're totalling rooting for Johnny. People just love the underdog.
@@paulsmith9192 Yeah, bad instructor indeed. And Kreese himself wasn't always evil, just had a bad instructor, in the army whose teachings took root deep inside.
@@deliacozo8542 You call it bullying, but from his perspective he's trying to motivate his students to improve themselves or as he calls is "flipping the script". It's called tough love and for the most part, it was pretty effective.
To be fair this was back a while ago where kids were a bit more innocent then now. I don’t wanna sound like an old guy talking about how things are way different but I do think kids now do know a lot of things they shouldn’t at their age.
Wtf is wrong with some of the comments? - The relationship was over, Ali doesn't have to talk to Johny. - She agreed to talk to him anyway, and he went ahead and broke her radio regardless. - Breaking someone's property is not just illegal in itself, it's also an extremely common predecessor to physical abuse. - But sure, Daniel is the villain for interfering and Ali is also the villain for "causing the rivalry" 🙄
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Despite being bullies, Johnny actually had some semi decent friends who tried to talk sense into him or restrain him throughout the movie.
You sure about that? @ 4:56 "hit her Johnny..."
@@doldrums2009 From that voice it's Tommy the voice sounds a bit weird but yeah
Tommy was a total psychopath
Johnny was lost in his mind
Bobby was the only one with decent empathy
@@doldrums2009 Alpha male energy
@@doldrums2009 That was Dutch or Tommy
Just Bobby
Ralph Macchio: He is 23 and sounds like 12
William Zabka: He is 19 and sounds 25
I couldn’t believe it either, like just look at Ralph 😂
@@Mert_ens17 Yeah, unbelievable shit right there.
Zabka sounds like a kid too.
Dang. That is so weird. Ralph doesn’t even look like his age compared to William. Ralph looked at least 14
I mean i dont know if they age well when they were adults but they sound like high schoolers lol😂
I like how daniels friends were like “where’d you find this guy he’s a wimp” knowing damn well Johnny would’ve kicked their asses to
Yeah no doubt. Although he does stick his nose into other people’s business, at the very least he tried to defend a girl and then defend himself too. He did pretty much such sucker punch Johnny when he got up though and that’s what led to the big time beating. Had he not done that, the fight never would have escalated.
I know right. Like Freddy got smacked by a fence from Daniel kicking it in the beginning. If they thought they could do better? One of them should of jumped in then and test their skills lol.
@@Whoopdido777 It wasn't a sucker punch. Daniel got smacked around, then punched him back. Not Daniel's fault Johnny let his guard down.
@@assassinmanx6128 jump him for Who Daniel .1st off I don't think Daniel there type . 2nd it wasn't there fight . Why should they Jump in For Daniel
@@Aaron-zt5ee Yeah and who was 💋😘 Kissing that ground with the Sand at the End. Not Johnny
2:56 For the longest time I thought Ali was randomly being an asshole here for kicking the ball away but now I realize she saw Johnny and his gang coming and was trying to protect Daniel. Wow.
Absolutely correct. Ali would have recognised the bike sounds by then (they were dating for some time already) and saw them from far, and had to send Daniel away to protect him.
I've watched this film like 10-15 times and never realized this before. Thanks for pointing it out! She clearly looks as the lights of the bikes from Johnny's gang before she kicks the ball out. I always thought she just kicked it out for no particular reason before.
Ohhh, always wondered that, thank you!
I saw that too
Yeah!
The way Ali looks away when Daniel suckerpunches Johnny. Not because she's worried about Johnny, but because she knows Daniel's fucking _done_ .
Lmaooooo fr
Ok now we're even, now we're even 😅
Wow I never peeped that
Never noticed that before
Woow 😂
I like the attention to detail of Bobby always being the sympathetic one. Even in the background you see his facial expressions seeming worried about Daniel
Let’s not forget he did start shit with Daniel at the Soccer tryouts 😂
@@gaspunoI like how Johnny simply just tripped larusso and turned to the girl and said “what! I didn’t do anything” 😂😂😂
Yeah just after smiling...
@@stephanea5364 awkward smiling..trying to not look like an outcast..social politics..
@@stephanea5364 he was smiling at the beginning, but after Johny had kicked Daniel to the stomach, Bobby stopped smiling.
Bobby always had a good heart. Even when daniel is on the sand, he looks genuinely concerned about him. No wonder he became a preacher.
lol
But then again, Bobby did tackle him pretty hard during the soccer try outs...
@@davida6146 football try outs......
@@ejkalegal3145 it's an American movie, so call it Soccer.
@@percyjackson-y9d I couldn't care less which country the movie is from. It's called football. The full name is Association Football. That's the end of it.
I like that Johnny is legit shocked that Daniel had the audacity to hit him back. 😂
He was just like. 🤭
@@chrisdoesstuff1280 lol like bitch do you know who I am around here??? 🤨
The bully was challenged for the first time, so it makes sense
Daniel had no business stepping into a situation that has nothing to do with him
Because it was unexpected, not tryna hate or anything but it was kinda a sucker punch.
“Hey, I thought they broke up.”
“She did, he didnt” 😂😂
Who said that Jimmy or Dutch?
Same thing they said about Miguel and Sam
Bobby looked towards Dutch. Dutch's only nice line in the movie, if it was him who said that.
@@Kmax12649 I think it was Tommy. I'm not too sure
@@Kmax12649 It might have been Dutch. Back in them old movies you couldn't tell who was talking and somebody speaks when the person's mouth isn't moving!
Johnny needed Mr. Miyagi more than Daniel did lol
Johnny wouldn't have accepted him at this stage krees was still ruling
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaah. But, Johnny needed Kreese more. His parents were rich, and Daniel’s parents were poor. It was more like for Daniel to do Miyagi Do Karate.
What If: Karate Kid edition
@@Afineaddition karate kid : what if..? Version
Kk1 : Johnny trains with miyagi and fights a ruthless Daniel trained by kreese
Kk2: Johnny and miyagi goes to Okinawa and meets chozen and sato…then they fight to death.
KK3: Johnny quits miyagi-do and trains with silver and kreese in cobra Kai Then he fights Barnes and defeats by using cobra Kai and miyagi-do tactics at the same time
Kk4 the next karate kid: eh pretty much same
@@blueshrimp6716 kresse
It was also weird that Daniel’s “friends” ditched him just because Johnny kicked his ass here. It’s not like Daniel was a coward and did go down swinging
would they have done better?
Daniel did say he knew Karate. Still not saying you're wrong. But part of it.
I respect Daniel for that, man didn’t go down without a fight, Johnny might have won big Daniel fought the best he could.
Sucker punched him but
@@genetenz did Daniel run tho? He stood his ground and that’s something should be respected, he was outmatched but still didn’t back down.
the fact his friends disowned him for getting his ass kick by Johnny is hilarious, none of them would've stood a chance with Johnny lmao
@@marrychrismas306go ahead
@@marrychrismas306 Does it matter?
@@marrychrismas306 Yeah go ahead
@@marrychrismas306you stay tryna make Daniel look bad
@@marrychrismas306 yeah Daniel is Johnny cook tho but in this movie he was the problem trying to fight over a girl who didn’t even wanna mess with hin
Y'know... I have a feeling Daniel and Johnny are going to put their differences aside and become friends 30 years later.
What makes you say that?
@@Hobo525 Pssst.... *whispers* Cobra Kai season 4.
This guy predicted cobra kai
@@cyanboyyt4350 he commented this after season 4 came out lmao
@@alirafaideen4117 its a joke Smart guy
2:44 Tommy and Bobby are, respectively, the devil and angel on Johnny's shoulders right here.
Tommy the devil and angel bobby
Lol so true, underrated comment
Also Bobby is wearing a blue jacket while Tommy is wearing a red jacket haha
Tommy died and Bobby becomes a pastor later on in cobra Kai. How ironic?
@@Headhunter1-e4v He was a pastor before tommy died
Oh how far they've come: Daniel and Johnny are now best friends who rock out together to Eye of the Tiger in a limo with Chozen driven by Mike Barnes.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was laughing the whole scene
Haha that’s right
Mike fuckin Barnes 🤣🤣
they totally wasted mike barnes... he shudve been miguel's father... destroyed johnny over miguel... and took over cobra kai at the end of season 5 when silver was arrested, going into season 6 as the main bad guy and daniel's biggest fear... thats right, Daniel was more afraid of Barnes than anyone else and he did more shit to Daniel too... Wudve been an epic showdown.
@@SuvenH Thank god you don't write this show
I think we all need to just take a moment and focus our attention on the real victim in this clip - Ali's radio. It was having a great time on the beach, topping up its tan, playing some tunes and minding its own business before it was left a broken shell of its former self.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Unnecessary violence against the radio.
RIP portable radio 198X- 1984 😢
The radio even tried to impress by switching positions in the blink of an eye (when Johnny pushes Daniel to when he hits the sand).
"topping up its tan and minding its own business before it was left a broken shell of its former self"
*sad anakin noises*
It always bothered me how Daniel got written off by his new friends because he got his ass kicked by a trained fighter lol like bro, none of y’all would have down better.
Exactly daniel got 1 good punch in to which i bet they would not be able to do
People like that were never really "friends" so he's better off without them.
They kissed his ass when Daniel beat Johnny in the end tho. They was never his friends. Jason Voorhees got revenge for Danielson an striked one of them first in Jason lives in the RV lol
I don't think they wrote him off, more like they knew he'd be all right and didn't want to embarrass him more by making a big deal out of it so the let him be
Feel free to check out the RUclips video,
Freddy Fernandez master manipulator
“I thought they broke up”
“She did, he didn’t” 😂😂😂😂
Wasn’t that Tommy who said that line
His friends walking away leaving him as a joke as if they would of done better is the sad part
True. He gave the best student of cobra kai a bloody nose and they still thought little of him just cause he didn't win. Those were definitely not friends.
@@vigoroushero8623 i mean it was a sucker punch which is a pussy move and he still got whoopd
@@harry_h2705 Shut the hell up! Sucker punch! Lol. Who made a dojo with the phrase, "Strike first, Strike Hard, No Mercy? Also yeah he did get whooped, but who got whooped later for a championship.
@@harry_h2705 strike first. Isn’t that what Johnny and cobra Kai are always preaching?
@@oliverrasmusson2362 not even kreese would sucker punch
“Hey man I thought they broke up” Jimmy gets one line and it’s off camera 😂
4:10 “Yeah.” The one word we see Jimmy say.
Everyone is saying that lol
But we see him say it. And we here him clearly.
Jimmy
He also says no mercy
While the fight is going on at the beach
Really? I didn't hear him say no mercy.
It always cracks me up after Daniel sucker punches Johnny he actually puts his hand out expecting him to shake it and call it even, lol.
It's Jersey thing, I think. LOL
No mercy man
He didn't put his hand out at all to shake Dainel's hand. What are you talking about? Also Johny started the whole thing why shouldn't Daniel fight back. You must be a punk or something?
@@Eagle0watch7dv I said Daniel put his hand out, not Johnny. You must be illiterate or something?
@@ZZZGGGLLLAAAHHH And Johny sucker pushed Daniel, so he deserved to be sucker punched. Not to mention Johny started the fight.
We ignoring the fact that Daniel had some impressive football skills lol
many pple ignore Ali had to try so hard to pretend she wasn't skilled in soccer... In some interviews she said she was better than Ralph in sports.
Soccer. America #1!
@@andrew21o lol
@@eatshit6546 If we really tried maybe. Its just that everyone loses interest in the sport once they turn 13.
not really juggling is pretty easy.
This scene is seen from another perspective knowing about Johnny's story ..., that is, I still believe that Daniel was the victim, but in Johny's expressions I don't see a bad guy ... just a frustrated and lost boy .
News Flash, frustrated and lost is a key formula to being a bad guy.
No matter what angle you look at it. Johnny was an asshole here.
@@anthonygordon9483 I misread your comment and thought u said it was a formula for being gay lol
Dude comes in abusing his ex and beats down a kid trying to hand her radio back. He's not frustrated and lost, he's garbage.
@@Boygonebad Wrong.. if Daniel would have minded his business the fight with Johnny doesn’t happen. He was the new kid and doesn’t even know Ali or Johnny. They obviously had a thing together and as a man you don’t step into people’s relationship business if it has nothing to do with you. Daniel being a simp he was got his ass beat. But hey at least he leaned karate and a life lesson through it all lol
I love that Daniel's initial attacks are just running straight at him without doing anything. He was begging to be tripped
Daniel was trying to take him down with wrestling.
Thats why Johnny showed restraint at the beginning. He knew Daniel was no threat
How can anyone watch this and say that Daniel was the bully? Pure comedy 😂
Gen Z love being conspiracy theorists
I watched cobra kai before karate kid and hated Daniel at first because of it but after watching it made sense
He was
FR
@@Montana-tw7im i don’t mind
5:05 just saw as Johnny and Dutch are walking away you can see Bobby looking at Daniel feeling bad
While he might’ve been a bully, he was the heart of the original corba cai gang…
Y’know?
Bobby was always the good one of the quiver.
Bobby ended up being a Pastor also.
Thats what you call life long storytelling, thank you CK writers for keeping side character’s personality recognized.
2:32 Look how happy Bobby is when Johnny's talking about turning his life around and being better. Bobby wanted nothing but the best for his boys.
5:08 Bobby looks so concerned for Daniel
Good dude, he's the one that ended up being a pastor?
ya@@billblaski9523
@@billblaski9523 Yes.
Yeah, like in their match when Bobby kicked Daniel in the Goolies and got disqualified, he apologised profusely but Kreese made him do it.
We need a scene that show Bobby apologize once again to Daniel before Cobra Kai end
Johnny and Carmen’s child: Daddy? How did you and Uncle Daniel meet?
Johnny: Uh…
And : how did my brothers (Miguel and Robbie) meet first time?
Gotten so used to cobra kai i forgot Johnny was the bully 😂
He wasn't.
How about we compromise and say they were both jerks in this movie
He wasn't
They both seems like assholes. Daniel intervenes, Johnny push Daniel in the sand, Johnny tries to make amends but Daniel sucker punches him and call it even, then Johnny beats the shit out of Daniel and blames it on Ali. Perhaps Nadal is the real hero of Karate Kid lol
Bullshit, I heard that Daniel is the real bully
This scene is so nostalgic. For those who grew up in the real era, we all can relate. No Instagram No TicTok No DMs No Only-Fans No "Influencers" No Filter-Queens etc... We interacted with one another and developed social skills that devices can't teach. I remember plenty of times catching the eyes of a female and respectfully approaching asking for her house number lol. Hanging out with friends before /after class getting into fights in school becoming good friends with the same kids we fought. The 80s and 90s truly were the best.
My mom just showed this movie to me a few years ago and she said the same thing about growing up in the 80's.
Ironically though, Daniel grew up in Newark NJ and those Blonde California Surf Boy's wouldn't last a day in the Italian section of Newark ! The many Saints of Newark based on the beginning of the Soprano's was 100 percent accurate !
The early 2000's had some great stuff as well. That's the era I grew up in (;
“Take a right, check it out” always cracks me up. Tommy had the best one liners 😂
Good god the way he smiles at her and tries to impress her with the soccer moves. I know there were a lot of heartthrobs in the 80s but Ralph Macchio was in a unique class of his own.
Looks like his breath stinks 🤣🤣
@@tomcat505don't have the morals of a tom cat
@@tomcat505you sure it’s not your breath Tom 🤣
This confrontation at the beach led to a 40 year karate war and the death of a Korean teenage fighter
Butterfly effect 🪰
Agreed
How has no one mentioned that the real villain in the karate kid universe is Tommy?
He sadistically points out Ali/Daniel to Johnny KNOWING it will set him off. Cobra Kai reveals that he obviously spent his whole youth jealous of Johnny which explains his sneery expression and how he jumped at the opportunity to rub salt in the fresh wound of Johnny's breakup with Ali. Years later, him revealing how he loved secretly was loving Ali the whole time explains his motivations. Also notice how he and Dutch egg Johnny on to escalate the physical violence on Daniel in this scene as well.
I don't expect most people to get this because Tommy's movements are a lot more covert and go under the radar which is why people neglect to see him as a villain. But he has my vote for the true villain. Everyone else's movements (though rash and irresponsible) are somewhat understandable in the heat of the moment. Tommy was a sadist demonstrated throughout the WHOLE film from the very start all the way down to "get him a body bag" when Daniel was taking a beating in the final scene lol.
The screenplay describes this moment and Tommy himself as being semi impish/mischievous. He's definitely provoking Johnny. Though tbf Johnny probably would have noticed and gotten pissed off eventually whether Tommy pointed it out or not lolol.
I also explained Tommy's sneakiness which is. Was on other RUclips video's
It’s not that deep
@@Fujikorific Johnny's way too hot headed to have seen through it
Tommy and Bobby are kinda like the Devil and Angel on Johnny's shoulders in a way. Tommy is trying to egg Johnny on so he'll get pissed off, while Bobby is trying to calm down Johnny, encouraging him to forget about Ali and move on.
NOSTALGIA!!!
I think I always related to being Daniel since that is my name, I was the new kid to school and that year we saw this movie in the gym on a rainy day. It became one of my favorite films to day. So glad the writers cared so much about the story that they put so much passion into progressing it into the show that's talked about everywhere.
Team Miyagi-Do all the way!
I love his friends basically says Daniel is a wimp yet does nothing to stop it at any point lol
"Hey man, I thought they broke up"?
"She did, he didn't ".
I personally don't see how Daniel is considered a bully. Even if it wasn't his business, Daniel didn't really do anything there to be seen as a bully.
I don't consider Daniel a bully, but he likes to stick his nose where it shouldn't go. Daniel shouldn't have picked up the radio and tried to hand it to Ali while she was in the middle of an argument with Johnny lol. He inserted himself into the situation and got his ass kicked for it. Realistically, he should have let Johnny and Ali handle their relationship stuff without feeling the need to try and win points with Ali or act like a white knight.
Yea he's not a bully he just sometimes can be stubborn or makes mistwkes
@@Renagade2332 well I mean he was trying to be nice. Realistically Daniel should’ve waited after Johnny and Ali were done talking to hand her radio
People still dont get that the whole "Daniel was the real bully" thing started off as a joke........
@@cantthinkofaname4616 yeah it started of as a joke than people realised Johnny wasn't that bad at all
"I thought they broke up?"
"She did, he didn't"
LOL
I'll admit that in Cobra Kai, after the school fight, one of the angry parents said to Daniel Bull**** I heard you were the real bully. I was laughing 😂. But why do people still think he’s the bully?
I heard that line & it instantly made me think of this video.
I even said that he (the angry parent) must've watched it...
ruclips.net/video/C_Gz_iTuRMM/видео.html
He should have just minded his own business at the beach or perhaps at least asked ali if she was alright if she needed any help instead of being a smart Alec and practically charging in with the radio as if He planned to steal it
@@greatest_bumble_bee_dude If you noticed Johnny actually did show mercy to Daniel when he said if he had enough, then Daniel gets a shot in, and then Johnny says no mercy before giving him the final beatdown.
@@epcotman32 dude i was searching for this one comment, like right? He did said no mercy but contained himself and had mercy. Like after this they did throw shots at Daniel but the one who went to the dojo to search revenge was Daniel
@@epcotman32 also the final beat down didn’t even know him out, it just hurt because Daniel was not really trying to fight, he was unprepared and never fought before probably( since he tried to get even) the beat down could have been worse honestly.
I never get how people think Daniel started this rivalry. The radio push is all Johnny.
Johnny's character development is amazing. From a complete douche in KK1 to a lovable guy in CK. Daniel on the other hand I'm not so sure about. I feel like Daniel was slightly more likeable in KK than in CK.
Everything decides on director, Most stories are like this , The roles of their character is exactly opposite so there may be certain extended to the story.
In short THEY CHANGE THE WHOLE STORY THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY RELATIONSHIP WITH KARATE KID 😮.
Today movies changed too far
Yeah, I like CK Daniel, but KK 1-2 Daniel is my favorite character.
No
In CK Danny lectures too much, treating Johnny like a kid. They went overboard with making Johnny look like a social caveman.
Obviously he’s an adult now married with children so he changed since then!
When Daniel went to Ali's aid, he was doing what any guy would do when wanting to impress a lady. He was also trying to help Ali whom Johnny was actually harassing.
True, Daniel shouldn't have retaliated (and martial arts is strictly for defence), but Johnny deliberately goaded him into a fight to show his alpha-male dominance.
@@Pig_Shnitt Daniel saw Johnny breaking Ali's radio which was kind of a harassment
johnny attacked him, daniel was just defending himself
@@Pig_Shnitt As a man the best thing you should ever do is call the police. Especially if you see a group of guys where the girl is being harassed. In real life people get seriously injured or killed for doing what daniel did depending on the area. Johnny at least had the dignity to fight one on one. I've seen people get jumped for trying to play hero
@@Pig_Shnitt You only say that because we know what's going on. Real life you don't go through a group of guys trying to save the damsel in distress. Number 2 I believe daniel was the more antagonistic one throughout the movie. They had already fought johnny one fair and square. When they were playing soccer in school daniel got tackled and started fighting one of the cobra kais. He's a poor sport. Then the infamous halloween night where he pranked someone while they were using the toilet and mr miyagi the child beater came and saved daniel even though he was mainly in the wrong it doesn't take 5 6 people to beat someone they've already beaten up
@@koolaiddudeawesome9850 nope not at all.
Rumor has it the ‘friends’ who walked away ended up as car washers at some dealership 30 years later.
Larusso auto 😂
@@Zanoladab hahahahaha!! Yes sir. Well played.
Which friends? Last time I checked in Cobra Kai Daniel had his students train in Fernandez Meat’s freezer
4:36 Daniel’s stance… I’m rolling on the floor 😂😂😂
Hey, he was taught at the Y, probably by someone who got their lessons from watching tv
I’m low key on Johnny side through this series
Are you saying that Daniel is the real bully?
@@ValorX25 yes
@@gfo28 😂🤣 why is this still a thing?
Dutch was the real problem
If you've grown attached to these movies like I have and really understand the context, you're with Johnny on this one
The way Bobby looks at Daniel after he gets beat up is a cool detail.
I'm so nostalgic for the 80's, and i wasn't even alive back then
Tbh, Johnny was right, it was Ali’s fault for causing this rivalry
I mean, I don’t see how that’s true. In Season 3 of Cobra Kai, neither he nor Daniel blamed her for *their* rivalry. They both admitted some fault in their rivalry.
In this scene, she had already broken up with Johnny, and he wasn’t ready to move past her. She also didn’t ask Daniel to butt in like he did.
Johnny should have listened to Bobby when he said, “Come on, man, forget it. It’s ancient history.” Words of wisdom, really. No wonder Bobby grew up to be a pastor.
Well, Ali did push him away when he wanted to talk which isn't okay. However, Johnny pushed Daniel away which made him a bad person. They both suck, Daniel is in the right.
Then she breaks up with Daniel after the first episode 😕
@@kingaculxn it’s not like Ali had to talk to him so that literally makes no sense
@@kingaculxn lmao she didn't want to talk with him, everyone was having a good time until he showed up.
Growing up watching this film i thought Daniel was way younger, turns out they’re the same age 😂 and Daniel Is older in real life
I thought he was 14. He was 19!!!
@@godzillasimpson8357 No, Ralph Macchio was 23 when Karate Kid released in 1984. He was born in '61. Meaning he would've been around 21-22 during filming.
@@jeeroylenkins3081 wtf
@@godzillasimpson8357 No he wasn't 19, he was actualy 2 or 3 years older lmao
Wasn’t zabka like 18 or 19 while filming
Johnny said he was going to make his senior year work. If only he knew the roller coaster ride his future would be.
You know it's going to go downhill when the electric drums kick in😆
God, this movie is like the epitome of the 80s.
The most frustrating thing about this movie is how Freddie and his friends react to Daniel getting beat up. None of them would have ever had the courage to stand up to Johnny and face him one on one. They leave Daniel by himself on the beach, clown him after they see his black eye, etc. Then AFTER Daniel wins the tournament they have the nerve to come up and congratulate him like they were his buddies all along. Makes no sense lmao
Really? I don't remember them congratulating him after he won the tournament...when was that?
@@glow2590Look closely at the kids patting his head right after he defeats Johnny. Freddie is there
One of my favorite movies. Daniel was so CUTE. I still get goosebumps watching this scene. I love the way he looks at her. Great chemistry. Wish I was her. lol
I just realised that Johnny ran over her radio on purpose at the end lol
Johnny just kicked it, dutch ran it over😉
@@Scotty_Does_Know which was obviously cap when Johnny said that to Ali in S3 of CK
Yeah it was dutch
Yeah, he even states that in Cobra Kai, when he speaks with Alli.
Johnny Lawrence was living the life back in the 80s
Top student in Cobra Kai Dojo
Had respect
Friends
Driving nice cars, riding nice bikes
Dated several girls
I envy Johnny. He had it all.
That all ended at the 1984 All Valley Tournament
@@tannerplummer1996 All because of a illegal kick.
@@ismoilnosirov6134 illegal? Yea right! What about that elbow to Daniel’s knee?
@@tannerplummer1996 Yup. Nobody wants to talk about that. Bring it up and you'll get crickets.
Well, in Cobra Kai Johnny replied to this: He got a warning for it, Daniel the win. So if both are illegal it was handled differently.
2:58 - It doesn't get much more clear to say, "Leave me alone," then Ali intentionally drop kicking the ball down the beach. 🤣
I don’t understand Johnny is clearly the antagonist and people still thinks Daniel is?
Johnny was the antagonist but he wasn't the villain.
@@H.K.5 People say that stuff because they don't see the film as it is. John Kreese was the real villain and he twisted Johnny to the wrong road.
@@miltontavares9506 exactly 💯
We live in a world where people think the world is flat so not surprised at all.
They antagonised each other
I just found out that the warm beer scene from Cobra Kai came from this. 2:24
The radio was such a villain it literally started a whole karate rivalry.
One of the greatest hero beating up the villain scenes ever
😂😂😂
It almost appeared as if Freddie set up Daniel for that beating.
Well yeah Daniel did kick the door in on him in the pool yard lol
@@anthonyscarpa6107 Haha! So, it was payback for the door to the face incident? I love it!
So Freddie was the true villain
@@marca4585 I call him “False Friend Freddie”
Soundtracks of this movie are absolutely legendary
I like that Johnny isn't a completely evil highschool bully, he was mainly messing around with Daniel even after being heated with Ali but thanntakes it too far. Even seems like he feels bad about hurting Daniel. Don't get me wrong, he's still the bad guy in this situation. But makes his character is Cobra Kai that much more relatable as he's just a dude that made some wrong choices but has a good heart.
Compared to Biff, Johnny really is an angel
No. Johnny was probably worried he'd get in trouble for assault. It had nothing to do with feeling bad. You don't "nicely" kick someone's ass.
Apparently, like what Johnny mentioned, Kreese poisoned people's minds. What monsters they become, it's always Kreese talking, not themselves
4:35 40 years later, we have S6E5 recapturing this beauty.
I thought Johnny was gonna give him the three piece combo again but I guess he grown up!
Mr miyagi is a liar and a thief
After watching Cobra kai u will realize that Johny isnt that bad at all. He is badass
I knew it was before cobra Kai
Johnny was never bad... they set him up for the audience to dislike him.
All he wanted to do was talk to Ali; Daniel was the one that got involved.
@@nahor88 Ali clearly wanted Johnny to leave her alone. Overpowered her with the radio and broke it. Daniel was the only one with enough balls to at least try and help her while everyone else was just scared. What Daniel did was pretty honorable
@@jennag3226 Watch a video called "was Daniel the real bully?".
@@nahor88 Yeah its satire lol. Funny how y'all can't grasp that. Anyway, I've seen the actual movie and know the actual objective facts. Sorry you're so easily swayed though.
The I punch you in the face and then stick my hand out for a shake while saying we're even always gets me..hahahaha
2:25
In Cobra Kai: Season 3:
Mitch: Who’s up for a warm one?
Hawk: Who the hell wants a warm beer? You didn’t bring an ice pack?! The heck outta here, man.
Honestly the first time I watched this movie I felt that Johnny was the villan and when Cobra Kai came out made reflect that Johnny maybe wasn't the villan I felt empathy for him
He was the villian. He was disrespectful to Ali an controlling. Are you blind bro..
Johnny was the villain in this movie as such, in Cobra Kai he just changed.
Johnny was the villain Daniel just gave him the reality check when he beat him. It only showed that Johnny had a bad teacher
In Cobra Kai, Daniel sort of develops a petty rivalry with Johnny. For the instance, the restaurant scene. Johnny asks the waiter to write down their order and Daniel asks the waiter the exact same question, when Johnny already asked it. Also, Johnny told the waiter to not add something to the food, Daniel does the exact same thing.
@@elprodigiosojoker9224 but it wasn't him 100 percent his fault. Kreese taught him to be that way. And he wasn't that bac because he told Larusso at the end of their fight that "he's alright."
And NOW….we all love Johnny…
I liked Johnny when I first saw Karate Kid back in the day. At the end when Daniel Wins the tournament, Johnny gives him the trophy and says, "You're all right, Larusso. He earned my respect then.
3:57
Johnny: “..you want it?”
Tommy: “yeah, give it to him 😁.”
Johnny: “YOU GOT IT.”
This scene invalidates all "Daniel was the bully" fan theory.
EXACTLY
I like how the motorbikes kicked up sand and LaRusso had just just lay there groovin' on it.
I like how Bobby has a decent trait in him. Hope he joins Johnny in Season 5 - These two with Daniel & Chozen!
All a clasical scene, great actors 🏆
4:04 Does he say Zab come on? This man used johnny's real life name.
Seeing how Johnny's step dad treated him In Cobra Kai helps you understand why he had such an attitude.
Its crazy how drastically their voices changed over the years
All of ourse prob did too
If yall wonder why they left Daniel alone there are 2 reasons.
1) he was the new kid they barelly knew
2) they seem to be friendly towards Jhonny and his friends, just look at how they greet each other as they arrive.
Little did we know.. 40 years later they would be singing ‘eye of the tiger’ together in a limo.
3:24 why’d she kick the ball away lol?😂
She peeped Cobra Kai was coming so she wanted to get him away to protect him.
daniel defending Ali's honor, a great friend
Yep
Three powerful things in this scene:
Johnny’s spinning kick
Johnny’s backfist
Ali’s radio
Imagine Miguel getting into a time machine, and going back into the past to witness this.
He would ask Johnny why he lied probably😂
Tommy and Dutch were definetely those sadistic friends, look how they enjoy the way Johnny discuss with Ali or treats her violently, and then how they laugh about Daniel. Bobby and Jimmy were the quiet ones.
@2:54, the cobra kai dudes said, "I thought they broke up... They did, he didn't" 🤭🤭
It was jimmy (the guy with the brown belt in johnnys gang)
It's funny how in the Karate Kid, you're totally rooting for Daniel, but in Cobra Kai, you're totalling rooting for Johnny. People just love the underdog.
@truebeliever786 well,johnny was brainwashed & like miyagi says,teacher says,student do.johnny was never deep down bad,just bad instructor
@@paulsmith9192 Yeah, bad instructor indeed. And Kreese himself wasn't always evil, just had a bad instructor, in the army whose teachings took root deep inside.
I dont get it, even in cobra kai Johhny still was a bully. Making fun of literally everyone in season 1
@@deliacozo8542 You call it bullying, but from his perspective he's trying to motivate his students to improve themselves or as he calls is "flipping the script". It's called tough love and for the most part, it was pretty effective.
@@truebeliever786 Making fun of somone scar is very rude. I have a scar too and hate it even tho you dont see it, I will cry if he did that to me
If you were to stare this hard these days you would be charged with a sexual offense.
Right?
I don't think that Danny meant her any real harm . I think that he was more likely just staring at her with awe
@@greatest_bumble_bee_dude he was thinking of her tight pink ass and you know it.
To be fair this was back a while ago where kids were a bit more innocent then now. I don’t wanna sound like an old guy talking about how things are way different but I do think kids now do know a lot of things they shouldn’t at their age.
@@synishere I completely agree with you 👍
I feel like maybe around the year 2022 that Johnny and Daniel will become the bestest of friends and train the next generation of fighters
3:52 … wow… this whole time I thought it was Daniel saying “don’t touch it punk”
Turns out it was Johnny 😮
I love to see them all back in the Cobra Kai series 😄😍
03:57 speakers are facing Daniel... 03:59 now they are facing Johnny!
1:12 bruh that wave in the background is fukin🔥
5:06 that missed high five 😂😂
Classic 80s. The best decade to be in.
Daniel could've easily caught that front kick! 😂😂
nah, johnnys offense is just too elite
@@juicee4 😂😂
he did, he caught it with his stomach
@@georgbonil7932 good one 😂😂
I mean I love this movie. But Daniel running towards Johnny like a 4 year old to get an ice cream I mean wtf?
Damn “Johnny’s” voice changed a lot since then.
Ikr it’s like his voice aged 35 yrs…
Lol what do you expect he was 19 back then and now he's 56 ofc his voice got deeper lol.
Wtf is wrong with some of the comments?
- The relationship was over, Ali doesn't have to talk to Johny.
- She agreed to talk to him anyway, and he went ahead and broke her radio regardless.
- Breaking someone's property is not just illegal in itself, it's also an extremely common predecessor to physical abuse.
- But sure, Daniel is the villain for interfering and Ali is also the villain for "causing the rivalry" 🙄
Conspiracy theorists have no basic grasp on law. I work as a security guard, and Johnny would be arrested if the police saw him
Ikr
It's stupid
@ 4:56 "hit her Johnny..." Damn Dutch!
Lol! No wonder he wound up in prison.
Man, this makes me feel the 80s eventhough I wasn't even born back then.