DF Direct Weekly
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- The latest DF Direct Weekly sees Rich, Oliver and Alex at the mics (John returns in the next episode!) discussing Bethesda's unique approach to Starfield's upcoming display mode upgrades, while there's concern about the health of console gaming in the wake of poor AMD gaming revenue. Rich talks PS5 Pro GPU details - including caches, clock speeds and features - while the latest Switch 2 rumours and reports are assessed for their plausibility. There's genuine excitement over AMD's new Strix Point and Strix Halo APUs, while Alex goes into depth about all the path-tracing features now unearthed in Capcom RE Engine games.
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0:00:00 Introduction
0:01:41 News 01: Bethesda announces big Starfield update
0:23:05 News 02: AMD sees massive gaming revenue decline
0:40:14 News 03: New PS5 Pro GPU details!
0:58:27 News 04: Switch 2 rumour roundup
1:07:40 News 05: RTX Remix getting DLSS 3.5 Ray Reconstruction
1:16:02 News 06: Resident Evil titles get path tracing!
1:27:14 News 07: AMD Strix APUs pack great integrated GPU performance
1:35:06 Supporter Q1: Could Nintendo games use DLSS 2 to reach 4K output on Switch 2?
1:40:23 Supporter Q2: What features would you add to Switch 2, if you could pick anything?
1:45:25 Supporter Q3: Could the potential merging of Xbox and PC development hurt Xbox?
1:50:13 Supporter Q4: Could developers run a game’s logic at high rates to improve responsiveness, while keeping frame-rate untouched?
1:54:19 Supporter Q5: Gaming handhelds theoretically seem as fast as a Series S. Why are they slower in practice?
1:57:40 Supporter Q6: Could Valve build a viable console platform to compete with Sony?
2:03:16 Supporter Q7: If you had to pick between #StutterStruggle and FSR 2 artifacts, which would you pick? 
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Every time Oliver gets asked if he has any thoughts - “No but…” and proceeds to have several thoughts! 😂
Better then the nervous laughter at ign 😂
Love Oliver
..and well informed thoughts, at that :)
I'm waiting for the day he responds " yeah, that's not a very interesting question"
@@seanexner6417What?
Given how comfortable Oliver appears to be on the show now, can we get a 4-way Direct with John some time in the future?
Who in the hell is Oliver? As in when did he join Digital Foundry? Almost spit out my coffee thinking it was John without a beard.
Sounds a bit saucy to me
@@ewjiml he’s been a member of the team for nearly two years now.
Eh.. maybe not
sad tom morgan noises
Alex: I'm really sick
Rich: OK, great!
wait where was that xD?
@@zfreak1234 Right at the start 0:35 to 0:47
@@Beaut_BeauxD This is what happens when one immediately starts looking for the topics one wants to see hahaha - thanks
Rich casually cutting poor Alex off and proceeding to talk about merch
Don mattrick killed xbox. They have never recovered from that disastrous Xbox One E3 press conference.
They don't need to be the #1 console to justify the Xbox's existence as a 3rd place competitor, just like they don't need to be the #1 laptop manufacturer to keep making SurfaceBooks. Being a day and date console+PC publisher has helped offset their weaker console sales.
He really did smh.
Can't be worse than Sony's $599 "just get 2 jobs" + PSN outage
@@Aggrofool but it is worse. Sony still ended up winning that generation and recovered. Xbox has been losing ever since the launch of the Xbox One
@@Aggrofool
They learned quickly, and made a pretty massive comeback in 2009 with the Ps3 slim and the consistent output of games. Xbox... Didn't.
Rich making Alex work even when he's sick lmao, classic
He seems to be sick a lot, needs to get out into that Sun.
Alex has always been sick but the recent Stellar Blade game aggravated his symptoms.
This how you do sick content
That's not now infectious disease works.
@@TheRedRaven_wow. You made me realise that since the game was released the discourse has changed to people just talking about it being a fun game and generally having fun with it. This is the first waifu-defence comment I've seen about it for a while.
Damn, that RE Engine path tracing showcase is the real deal!
Gives me so much hope for MH Wilds!! I’m switching to PC gaming by EOY 2024 let’s gooooo
@@murdendev also for (patched) Dragon's Dogma 2. MH Wilds should be one of the greatest games ever.
trust me ps5 pro will outperform a 5090
@@dudemanismadcool it won’t even beat a 3090. Stop the cope
Rich continues to plumb the depths of the English language's capacity for Introduction.
it's called cringe.
@@joejoe2658 yes, that's what you're doing is called
@@joejoe2658 Calling everything cringe just ends up holding you back from having some fun moments. Nothing else
We were welcomed “in a way”!? He’s a genuine renaissance man and no doubt about it.
@@joejoe2658your mother cringed when you popped out
How is Jack Burton one of the coolest action heroes in cinema history yet he never lands a punch or shoots a single villain dead?
The only time he defeats an enemy is by accident.
And yet? Coolest. Hero. Ever.
That's not true he actually did shoot half a dozen guys in the film but i get your point.
Doom 3 with path tracing would be insane
Playing Doom 3 on 64mb ram right this second -- still better lighting than Final Fantasy Rebirth . .
This would make the game a lot brighter in dark areas due to bounce lighting.
@@cube2foxprobably the opposite actually, I think the game would be a lot darker
Doom 3 has to be the most underrated horror game to ever exist. It's still the only game which makes me jump in fear and terror even tho I've probably played it for almost two decades...
I think it really needs an asset overhaul because of how heavily the models rely on normal maps to hide the low resolution geometry. Even back when Doom3 was first released the character model geometry was passable at best, imo. I keep wondering if there'd be some algorithmic way of treating the normal maps as a height/displacement map and trace against that. It would probably require a more software-based RT scheme because I don't think you'd be able to sort that in a BVH.
Oliver reminds me of a majestic eagle.
Oh yes, that is a great comparison, the bald eagle even though neither the eagle nor Oliver are bals but the eagle is called that due to its white feathers on its head and Oliver clearly shaves his head
I have a PS5 but I can see why console demand is slowing. I haven't been truly excited about a new game in a really long time. The new focus of first party on cross-gen has been a big part of that. My motto for my PS5 is that the best thing I can say about it is that it is an awesome PS4. Right now I'm playing through my backlog and am up to Far Cry 5. There hasn't been a PS5 game yet that felt to me like it was a next gen must have.
Previous console generations would have have amassed a sizable number of next gen only games by now which would be on sale constantly. That and the typical console price drop would have been a very enticing lure to get new gamers to purchase the hardware. Now there isn't a significant vault of of next-gen only games gamers would want to buy the new hardware to play. On top of that, there is not a lot to look forward to gamewise. GTA 6 would be the exception that proves the rule.
I think the gaming industry is going to have a crash, and out of it they will discover gameplay again. Right now the focus is on narrative and player retention at the expense of new and interesting gameplay. Narrative is fine, but it's very expensive to pull of right, and player retention _(live services)_ actually harms gameplay in order to stretch out play time and give paid-for items more of a reason to exist. Instead of hiring an army of artist to create the assets needed for a narrative focus, fewer assets will be combined together with better gameplay to give the variety needed... Well at least until AI kicks in and brings the cost of creating assets way down.
I concur with you sir, you nailed it. My thoughts exactly.
I agree with you, mate. The PS5 is essentially a PS4 Pro Pro.
The gaming community really bothers me atm. So many people blindly bought the PS5 thinking it was going to continue in PS4's success, but it hasn't, and instead of being adults and holding Sony responsible they'd rather just pretend it's all okay and continue to attack Xbox.
I have a SX as well and Microsoft have done so much right this generation. They've released some great games albeit like PS5 not as many as they should have, Gamepass continues to be by far the best value in gaming; I've barely spent any money on games and I've played a ton of games that I've loved that I would never have even considered had I needed to buy them, the ui is still by far the best with VRR etc still performing better on Xbox,
I could go on but for me Xbox is winning this generation even if many so called "gamers" refuse to accept it. And it's a pity they don't as it would only help the industry improve.
@@Axispaw1 I wouldn't say _"Xbox is winning this generation"._ It is quite literally doing far worse versus the PS5 than the XB1 did against the PS4, and every complaint I have with the PS5 goes doubly so for the Series consoles.
While I have been unimpressed with PS5 game line up, there are still good games there like Horizon Forbidden West and God of War Ragnarok. My issue is that they are not all that different than their previous PS4 games. They're better, just not that much better. _(Hmm... actually I liked Zero Dawn more than Forbidden West)_ It's why even though I intend to eventually buy Ragnarok & Spider-Man 2, I haven't bothered picking them up yet. I'm simply not going to enjoy them more than the PS4 games in my backlog. I'll buy them up when they get down in the sub $30 range.
As for the Xbox Series hardware, I honestly can't think of a game I want to play on it. I used to be a huge Halo series fanboy, like stood in line to buy a new game at release fanboy, but now I don't even want to play Infinite. Even Game Pass does nothing for me. You mention how it saves you money, but I have a large gaming backlog, so I have no need to even buy new games right now. That is made much easier since I haven't considered any new game in years a day one must-have.
In fact that's kinda my whole point. This gen has been so boring that there is little incentive to buy anything. Not only do I have a lot of unplayed backlog games to go through, but I'm occasionally replaying old favorites. This is the first console generation that I have not only not made a hard break with prior generation, but I'm still playing its games about as much as I previously did. Contrast this with the fact that I didn't play my Xbox 360 at all after I got my PS4, even though I loved the 360. Yeah, that's when I switched from Team Xbox to Team PlayStation. I always planned to eventually get an XB1, but just like with the Series X/S now, outside of Sunset Overdrive, there wasn't any exclusive games I wanted to play on it.
It's been a really slow start for this gen of consoles, and honestly, I've not really been that impressed with any of the games that's been released for this gen, I've not really seen anything game changing yet, and as a PC gamer, I rarely play new games and have been playing through a lot of my backlog, other the years, I've ended up buying so many games on Steam, I decided to chew through them and mostly ignore new games until they drop in price and get patched up, which is the main reason I ignore new games, they are a buggy mess, rather wait it out till it's patched up.
@@KenMathis1 it quite literally isn't doing worse. Xbox have said until they're blue in the face that Xbox hardware sales isn't the only metric of their success like it was with pervious generations. Gamepass on PC and other platforms are also essentially console sales for them. Times have changed.
You say you don't even want to play Halo Infinite. Well don't you think you're part of the problem? You're judging a game without even playing it, which is ridiculous!
I've played Infinite to death and it's incredible, best Halo since 2. Have you played Gears 5? And it's DLC Hivebusters? I bet not and again they're both outstanding games. Starfield? I bet you think it's a poor game and you haven't even played it...
Horizon Forbidden West is poor, after 20 hours I got utterly bored with it. GoW Ragnarok is fine but stale after I put 50 hours into GoW 4, it just wasn't different enough.
Saying what you said about Gamepass shows you obviously don't have it otherwise you'd know exactly what I mean.
You've obviously made up your mind about Series X and you don't even own one. That's the problem with the gaming industry right now, people like you who are judging and basing opinions on what you read in articles or comments sections, not actually owning the console and having your own opinion.
That's what's ruining gaming right now, social media and mob mentality...
Regarding gaming being down. PC gaming has out-priced me. I would be embarrassed to tell someone to get in to PC gaming because it's so expensive.
Everything doesn't need to be 4090 levels of performance. My 10 year old still plays everything. Well. Fallout 4 at ultra 4k, 60fps.
@@seebarry4068
Fallout 4 is a bad comparison… it wasn’t pushing boundaries when it released 10 years ago
You aren’t getting anywhere close to 4k 60 on any new games on anything less than $1500
And I’m not paying $1500 to play a video game lol
@@jarde1989 4K 60 FPS it's a luxury. You can have good looking graphics at lower resolutions and save a lot of money, plus the real value that PC offers is that it has an infinite catalogue.
@@jarde1989on the other hand we have things like DLSS allowing us to use cheaper GPUs to upscale and i honestly can barely tell the difference.
tl;dr 4k isnt a necessasity, when on a budget.
@@jarde1989There's nothing on this earth that "pushes boundaries" like you said but is also cheap. Sounds like you have entirely unrealistic expectations in life. Elevate yourself to afford good quality, or be content with average, you gotta pick one. Doing nothing but complaining that you can't afford things is not it.
I like the idea of having options that allow future hardware to improve games.
The Star Ocean 4 remaster had a bunch of settings that allowed some customisation and while that was intended for PS4/PS4 Pro, it means PS5 can run on max settings almost flawlessly.
I'd like things like that to become common.
Absolutely! I used this all the time when I play SO4.
It is always lovely to see Rich's rare lapses from professionalism. The leprosy laugh at the end was primo!
I like Alex's work for DF, but this is just constructive feedback -- I do not think sleeveless undershirts look professional for someone on screen.
The idea that Bethesda doing more than one game at a time is "strange". BGS can't get 1 game released on 2 platforms out the door without major issues whereas doing multiple would be a courting disaster. This points to a choice made on organization or coordination more than money or manpower. Microsoft opening its wallet before changing core and management is throwing good money after bad.
Microsoft cant manage studios… Its been their forever issue that is literally now just bigger with how many dev studios they have…
How do you own more than a third of the industry yet your output is destroyed by a single nintendo or sony exclusive when it comes to polish and quality, all while filling your games with microtransactions which both sony and nintendo are barely doing or are doing it in an actually sane way like with helldivers
I think a lot of people forget the quality of Bethesda games at launch. The Spiffing Brit just did a playthrough of Fallout 4's launch version, and damn is a broken mess. He did the same with Skyrim last year, and it's just as bad. I mean, who thought it'd be a good idea to have chickens be able to witness crimes and report them to the guards?
If they tried working on multiple games at once nothing would ever get done.
young people today are coming into a games industry with 40 years worth of games to play. They don't need to buy new stuff to have a great gaming experience. Super Mario SNES is still better than most games today if you like platforms. Kids don't need to driver new sales when between emulation and legacy hardware there is tons of stuff to play.
That's not how media works.
Movies, music, gaming and all arts require new sales. They can't rely on legacy material, obviously.
@@30yearsoldiam1I agree and thats where Nintendo seems to fit into the market with a lot of their games on Switch
and yet they just play games like Fortnite 🤣
not how it works. kids are *intensively* marketed to, to encourage them to buy what is new and fashionable. Apart from the handful that become very passionate about the medium, very few of them are going to be sold on 30 year old games
Lovin the Jack Burton vest! XD 'May the wings of liberty never lose a feather'
Those Strix APUs sounds like perfect Steam Machines 2.0 candidates
Maybe, but personally, I would rather have a Steam Deck 2 that offers e-gpu support in a clean package, that would offer the best of both worlds, a portable gaming device that can tap into the power of an e-gpu on the big screen.
It would also mean Valve only needs to support one device and not two, I think that's a better solution as it gives us our cake to eat in both worlds, but only if it's a clean package that just works, in other words, a curated small list of gpu support.
Grateful for this new episode of the eternal DF Direct Weekly
@01:50:13 EA Skate games register joystick inputs at higher rates than the game is displayed. Same in a lot of FPS games.
god, I hope the switch 2 has HDR support in general, let alone on its own screen.
how would it support it but not on its own screen?
@@joejoe2658 if the built-in display isn't HDR capable it could still be able to output HDR to an external HDR capable screen like a TV.
Pro-dock with a gpu, always in my wet dreams.
VRR and HDR for the next switch console would be great.
adaptive triggers
@@joejoe2658as long as the triggers are analog on the joycons, ill be happy
You mean handheld
The inflation being felt these days is part of the problem, but I doubt it is the only problem. I don't understand why so many games have to be 100 hour open world affairs. I just can't see anybody trying to play or caring about playing that much when many of them are trying every conceivable way to extract more money out of you. Who thinks that is the good for the overall health of the market.
Yeah but you have to take into consideration that nobody gives a fuck what you think
It really does depend on the game, games that are well-designed with good mission structure and a lot of contents, I don't mind them taking forever to finish, in fact, games that are well-made and fun to play, many of us wish they were longer, but unfortunately, a lot of open-ended games waste a lot of our time doing basic missions that for the most part are not fun to do and ends up being a time sink.
As for inflation, that's not helping on hardware sales, but I think the greed of the companies isn't helping, there's just far fewer reasons to need to upgrade, whether that be PC or console, so gamers are either holding onto there hardware for much longer on the PC or sticking with the last gen of consoles, and it's a sad reality, because hardware sales would encourage developers to target the more powerful hardware, so basically, the high prices of hardware that's slowing adoption down a lot is holding gaming back on PC and consoles.
Yup, Open world games is an instant “no-buy” from me. I dont want to spend 100 hours on ANY game anymore. Last open world game I played was Horizon and bored out after 12 hours - havent touched an OW game since. Give me a $35 linear game with 12 hours MAX completion time any day of the week.
@@johnjames7332 Well the thing is nobody gives a fuck what you think anyway 🤷♂️
Is magnetism really the right way to attach controllers given the direction and twisting forces applied to attached controllers?
It is not
My guess is that there's an additional latch or locking mechanism beyond the magnets alone
Nintendo adding back buttons before Microsoft and Sony is crazy tbh
I mean, I suppose Xbox did it first for It's Elite controllers? But on the standard model yeah
4 back buttons and gyro should be the norm
@@SivTeaze
It would make action rpgs a lot better to play, the same with fps.
@SivTeaze Nah, 2 back buttons is enough, 4 is too many. And gyro always sucks and should never be included. Keep the controller cost down, don't stuff it full or gimmicks.
@@mjc0961 Gyro is a great option for aim in shooters.
Great episode, loved Oliver's thoughts. Thanks DF.
Did they ever mention Intel CPUs losing performance due to new power constrains because of instability issues? Probbaly not, right?!
I'm one of those people who actually tend to turn VRR off, on a 120hz set. reason being, i'm sensitve to VRR flicker. I actually disable freesync on my PC monitors for same reason. I know some higher priced monitors and tvs handle it better but I'm ok with just 120hz 4k and using render targets like 40 or 60 when 120 can't be reached instead of VRR.
whats up with the tank tops?
Before I got my LG C2, my Vizio P55-F1 that I got in 2018 actually had one HDMI port that had 120hz, no VRR, but capped to 1080p. That was a great TV back then. 7:52
The VRR optimization to 40FPS is great for those of us with OLEDs.
The best monday upload!
Steam Deck is my main console, I even stream my PS5 games to my Steam Deck exclusively.
Nothing beats gaming while having #2
"Bespoke DF branded merchandise - Now available in Unreal Grey/Brown."
Ill take any step close to allowing us to disable TAA on console
We really need an RTX Remix conversion for Bioshock.
That TV set that Alex mentions at the @8:00 mark is exactly what I have…an 8K LG miniLED, and it’s unfortunate that it doesn’t have VRR for gaming…it has pretty much everything else imaginable.
As far as the PS5 Pro, or even the regular PS5 which actually has 40 CUs with 4 disabled/idle. This may be the reason PS5 Pro shows 60 CUs with a higher clock and the numbers not adding up. Also may be why some are saying it is actually 56 CUs. Perhaps I'm wrong but for as long as I been on console they always had disabled CUs. I think the original PS4 actually had 20 CUs (PS5/PS4 Pro @ 40, PS5 Pro @ 60) whereas PS4 only had 2 CUs disabled giving it an operation on 18 CUs before they disabled 4 on the PS5 and likely on the PS5 Pro as well.
this is a binning strategy ie. a chip with up to four failed CU's is binned for this purpose and the cores are disabled.
Metal buttons... maybe heat-sense feature ?
ALEX THAT IS A SICK SHIRT!!!!!!!
Thanks guys. Awesome work as always
The big advantage of a Steam Machine over a PC is Valve could sell a capable PC at a much lower price and bypasses the issues non-PC gamers have with PCs. If they don't have to think about what parts to buy, what's compatible, keep up with drivers, bloat ware...etc., that completely changes the narrative for a more casual PC experience. Having a PC that is well priced and w/out the hassle could end up being a big deal.
some say its their show for the latest gaming and technology news
big if true
As for Series S it is not only about CPU limitations but also both memory capacity and memory bandwidth limitations. It’s understandable if Series S can’t achieve a performance mode for a game with a very large scale. You get what you pay.
The game would be very large if it didn't have all the loading screens.
Cyberpunk is a large game but it runs at 60fps on the S..
as much as I appreciate the series s, xbox should have done what Sony did and just release a series x with a disc drive and one without..the whole series x and s sounds like a good idea until you release the limitations with the series s, and xbox being stubborn with their policies is on them for having sometimes a weaker game version compare to ps5
@@tyler328 It’s a cross gen games what do you expect? It was built with Jaguar cpu, small memory pool and HDD in mind.
@@soraaoixxthebluesky game still runs like shit on last gen LMAO... Game was not built for them console at all.. it only launched on them because they promised it years ago
I tried the Starfield Beta on Steam and without changing my graphics settings I was getting solid 60fps in the stresspoint part of New Atlantis (in the MAST district) where as before it would dip to the high 40s before in exactly the same spot. I'm really pleased with that! Then, I instantly uninstalled it for another year of updates as it's still nowhere near finished even though apparently I have 150 hours in it without getting anywhere close to finishing the story!
Then I remembered that probably 140 of those hours were spent adding mods to the game, playing for a little bit, seeing another mod I liked the look of, installing it, playing for a little bit, seeing another mod I liked the look of, installing it, playing for a little bit, seeing another mod I liked the look of, installing it, playing for a little bit, seeing another mod I liked the look of, installing it, playing for a little bit, seeing another mod I liked the look of, installing it, playing for a little bit, seeing another mod I liked the look of, installing it, playing for a little bit, seeing another mod I liked the look of, installing it, playing for a little bit, seeing another mod I liked the look of, installing it, playing for a little bit, seeing another mod I liked the look of, installing it, playing for a little bit, seeing another mod I liked the look of, installing it, playing for a little bit, seeing another mod I liked the look of...
What are your specs though?
@@OhWell914 Good point! i7 12700, 32gb, 3070TI 8gb, installed on a Samsung 990pro Nvme. It's a laptop. Playing at 1440p DLSS Quality, mostly high settings, except medium for shadows.
@@plume... Thank you for the response!, we have similar specs except for the CPU, yours is a bit better, I hope I see the same results as you when the update finally releases!
I feel welcomed, in a way, to this week's DF Direct Weekly.
For the Switch 2 Esquire, regarding affordability, the doc could have cooling components to assist in cooling the device, thus allowing it to run at a higher performance margin from the extra power they could pull while cooling the device. A rather cheap solution if you ask me.
hope you get better soon alex ^^
I love how all these years on, we still think that VRS can actually provide a noticeable performance improvement and not degrade image quality at the same time. I'm sorry but I really don't think it's possible.
I wonder how Nintendo will react to Moba Pad leaking info potentially?
RTX remix is sooooo GOATed I'm hyped
Sun's out, guns out for Alex! 💪
Love to see it.
I might have another go at starfield, done 10 hours or so but meh.
I thought it was good but haven't gone back after playing about 20 hours or so.
I'd personally wait until the Shattered Space DLC and mod support are available. No shortage of great games to play in the meantime
It's a slow burn game. There's every chance you might put 100 hours in and never enjoy it, or you might start to enjoy it more and more until you love it.
Wait till most of the big updates come out. They're going to add vehicles soon
@KTK-o Well, the vehicle update isn't confirmed to be soon. It may not even come until the Shattered Space DLC (though I highly doubt it'll be after). That said, it could be soon? They're not in the May 15th update however
There's quite some people out there with TV's like the SAmsung Q90T. It does 4K 120hz and it does *have* VRR... but enabling VRR basically instantly ruins the color accuracy the TV usually has. Not just that it also completely forks the gamma for whatever reason *and* influences the local dimming too. For what reason? No clue. But for me it meant not using VRR at all, despite always using it when on my PC and using my monitor. So that 4K 120hz but no-VRR thing: that's me on my consoles.
Metal buttons on switch 2 will be for heart rate during sports games.
I'd say too little too late for the 60fps patch for starfield because the player base dropped down so fast when it was first making rounds
Many will be back for Shattered Space, and those waiting it out will benefit from a year's worth of accumulated fixes, performances improvements, new features, and content updates.
What a stupid decision they made as a flagship 1st party release to lock it at slide show framerate.
Player base will get a big boost when it comes to PS5, and 60fps on day 1 will help
@@nickgovier It’s not coming to PS5 😂
@@tronamthere’s loading screens every 5 minutes so I’d say space is already pretty well “shattered”. Shame the DLC isn’t called “Seamless Space” 😂
Not allowing 4k120 vrr is a crime, imagine rdr2 with unlocked fps vrr on xsx
You think rockstar will update that game ?
@@Crimsongz yeah but not for free
“I’ll take leprosy and pixelation artifacts” lmao, Oliver
I’ve been dreaming of a Steam Machine v2 since the Deck was released. The idea of the Deck experience in a more powerful set top device is incredibly compelling to a console player like myself. I’d love to have access to the huge PC game library without sitting at a desk to play, or dealing with the hassle of Windows settings to optimize gameplay.
PS5 pro GPU will be similar to rtx 3080 in terms of teraflops. Should We expect similar performance?
well in raster performance a 3080 is like 6900XT or 7800XT level and a PS5 Pro GPU will be around 7700XT performance or a bit higher, but in ray tracing PS5 Pro will be much better than the RDNA 2-3 graphic cards, so i wouldnt be surprised if the Pro had the same performance or more than the 3080 in ray tracing.
Oh and the raster performance difference between a 7700XT and a 3080 is about 20%, so the difference wont be too big either way.
The PS5 Pro actually has more compute units than the 7700XT, but its held back by memory bandwith and power and thermal limits imposed by the APU (CPU and GPU combo) so its not expected to be much faster.
@@gabor3432 ok. Thanks
Tflops console are not Tflops PC's GPU. They are based on 2019 APU architecture (embedded small GPU capabilities with CPU mobile type), so stop comparing that to PC's GPU. It's better to compare console with console. Also do not compare it to a very powerful high-end 2023 RTX 3080. If you want the true power of a PS5 Pro, consider a 2019 RTX2060 or 2016 GTX1070ti, RX Vega 11 maybe.
I'd say more like 7700XT/3070Ti level in raster. RT may be a bit above that however
@@gabor3432 no, 2019 APU cannot compete with a dedicated hardware GPU, 2023 nvidia 3000 series. Guys, you are dreaming. Better comparing with mid-end PC from the year 2017-2019. PS5 Pro still has this small 2019 Zen 2 APU, AMD is about to release the Zen 5 this year... 3 AMD Zen generations difference ! just be a bit realistic ! 😅
bethesda not ruling out partnering with external developers got me shouting "let obsidian make another fallout game" once again
True, but Obsidian are very busy with multiple of their own projects. Doubt we'd see a new Fallout from them any sooner than we would from BGS
Or outsource some of the work for TES6 to larian and/or Obsidian because good god Bethesda on their own can not make a real current gen game.
I've not exactly been blown away with updates around obsidian's Avowed. A lot of these older studios, it seems like the creative forces have moved on and they've gotten developed a very corporate culture with all that entails.
MS calls the shots now remember? If Phil wants, he can order Todd Howard to move aside and let Obsidian do a game. Us Fallout fans should petition Phil Spencer for it.
@@SirSomnolent Outer Worlds was quite mediocre too. None of the spark of New Vegas or older Fallouts or even POE which was decent.
If you guys make a weekly date night video with rich ill sub to the patreon.
For a moment I saw a guy standing against the wall behind Oliver 😱🤣
I know why I have not been paying for games… because the developers are pushing out bad games. Not bad from a premise point of view, but bad because many lack promised features or don’t run well or aren’t polished.
I now wait months to even “maybe” buy a game… and by then I’m not paying full price.
If developers want more money, then push out actually GOOD games that aren’t having these massive issues.
How is 2hrs leaner?
Damn, massive ring in Alex's hand. Congrats, man.
One Love!
Always forward, never ever backward!!
The issue with AMDs graphics division is Nvidia has a seemingly Unbreakable Mindshare. They could fix FSR and add much better RT/AI cores. Gamers will still buy Nvidia at a higher premium.
It's basically the Apple consumer mindset but with GPUs. It make sense why AMD is pulling back next gen¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The mindshare excuse doesn't cut it especially after how well Ryzen, especially Zen2 and Zen3 did.
Intel had arguably an even bigger hold on mindshare with CPUs than Nvidia has on GPUs now.
Success of Ryzen showed that it can be broken if you offer the right product at the right price.
@@NatrajChaturvedi there's good a reason for Ryzen success tho. Not only was the product good, Intel also was stagnating and resting on their laurels. Essentially, AMD caught Intel with their pants down. Nvidia on the other hand, are always cautious, constantly have tricks up their sleeves.
@@_Chad_ThunderCock This I agree with but I would still argue AMD could have gained plenty of ground vis a vis Nvidia with the last few generations of Radeon instead of losing ever more marketshare. They prioritize Server CPU sales over everything else and its one reason why Nvidia ends up being the defacto choice for most buyers.
These thumbnails are getting increasingly obnoxious.
They remind me of stills from the movie "A Vampire Kiss" with Nicolas Cage. Which is to say, that I enjoy them. They build up suspense, add some necessary drama. I half-expect some kind of a disturbing revelation in the episode based on those shocked faces. Will Nvidia finally proclaim themselves to be a sovereign nation? Does Amd plan on invading Taiwan? Has Microsoft annexed Japan? And, to my utter and bespoke disbelief, none of that is actually true. It's just some switch 2 rumours and impressions from using Steam Deck Oled. And perhaps that is for the better.
Ooo, can't wait to try the Resident Evil PT on my 7600
Obsidian has something like 4 internal teams.
Bethesda should look at improving the quality of their output before the volume.
Not happening till Zenimax or MS now keeps a dork like Todd Howard around as Bethesda's head.
He has proved beyond a shadow with multiple projects he has headed to completion just how... bad he is.
Bethesda needs someone more creative and as for bugs, its ruining their reputation to the point of affecting sales. Better QA needed urgently obviously.
I hope Capcom works with Nvidia in order to implement great path tracing modes for the RE 2, 3 and 4 Remakes, and future games too! The RTX 5000 gen is almost here and 2 more years will come sooner than any of us will realize, meaning RTX 6000! This kind of ultra high features are amazing when they are **well implemented** . The absence of true high quality reflections on mirrors and windows is extremely noticeable and it could be fix with path tracing.
I am waiting for the RTX 7000 series. Where we get path traced reflections accurately on eye balls. Even though we often don't look at our character in game, I will game more happily knowing they are there 😂
I have vrr on my tv but it locks the damn thing in game mode and i cant adjust my brightness...
If you can't adjust even brightness on a TV in game mode, get a better TV, if you can.
Dude are you SURE you have your TV and console set up properly?
The original XeSS paper also has a denoising part. Which didn't end up in the product Intel is selling currently.
And ExtraSS is sorta open source. I have taken a look and it's promising
The Starfield update looks ideal for a more powerful console.
I hope all future Bethesda games feature this level of settings flexibility.
@tronam, those are usually set last because they take time to optimize. They rather be on a schedule that's consistently moving devs to new situations or next projects.
It would be cool of there was an update that made exploration feel free and seemless. One that removed the loading screens.
@@tronamBethesda I am sure takes note, and only promises bugged and broken.
im so happy that i went from an xbox 360 to pc in 2016, one of the best choices i made on my life
Are you guys planning to do a deep-dive video exclusively on the Starfield patch? Or is there not enough there to make a video around it? I'm considering going back and giving Starfield another try, but I wouldn't mind hearing your thoughts on the patch and how much it actually improves.
It's not really important of a game to do a deep dive. Just a game pass game
“Aluminum” would like to have a word with you, Rich.
Breaking news. Its still starfield.
yeah. No update can fix that
Those "above DX12" VRS features have been in DX12 for a while now. Please refer to the ATG's video "Variable Rate Shading Update Xbox Series Consoles"
A switch 2 with greatly improved VR would be cool.
My 4k tv has VRR but isnt 120hz, does it matter to use this option then with Starfield? As this tv is smaller then my regular 4k tv which I prefer gaming on as it is bigger
AMD's decline in gaming revenue is a clear indication that we are headed into a recession which we have seen from all game devs too.
Well there's two considerations:
1) everything is overly expensive.
2) there's little reason to upgrade because there haven't really been giant leaps in the tech.
My GPU is 5000 series and runs pretty much everything I have very well. I already have an Xbox and a PS5, and people who wanted those consoles likely have them by now. These products aren't the kind of thing you have to replace, they get one sale per person/household.
@@echoshatter I think AMD has been pretty competitive in terms of pricing. I agree that there’s not much to be gained visually by upgrading but games do run better on new hardware. The consoles get updates that keep them running better over time but pc video cards sometimes can lose 30-40% of their raw performance just for being old when playing a game.
I absolutely 100% play with the settings on my console. My PS5 is set at 1440p Res the Crappy HDMI 2.1 VRR(Mark Cerny SUCKs for that one) is On and HDR is set to Supported only ect ect.. the first thing I do when I start a video game is getting to the settings on the video game itself(Visual/Audio). My console setting are good then I might adjust the Game Mode settings on my LG C1..
The gaming Industry is dying cause of the focus on Games-as-a-DISservice Online multiplayer Garbage..
I'm not Sold on the PS5 Pro. What games are going to make it worth it and I don't see the hardware really worth the buy
PS5 pro cash grab that's the whole point
@@subjectivereviews Well yea I agree but there will be people out there that will jump on it an Start having the placebo effect to justify their buy..
They(PlayStation/Xbox whoever) can up the GPU all they want. Hell they can put a 4090 equivalent in it but I won't make a ton of difference if the CPU is still about the same(10% boost isn't really nothing but maybe 1 or 2 frames) and the Power draw isn't much better. I think PS5 is 350W max. So a PS5 Pro would least have to have 400+W. But I think the PS5 Pro Power draw is still going to be the same.
Now the PS5 has great/Good I/O throughput/ an VRAM with 12GB for Graphics out of 16GBs(SDRAM in consoles). Developers have proven you can make a great beautiful game on PS5.. What I think was stupid and again MARK CERNY SUCKS for this was putting only Basic crappy HDMI 2.1 VRR in the PS5.. Because it kills anything under 48fps witch is EVERY SINGLE GAME. So Graphics/Fidelity mode will ALWAYS Suck on PS5 with NO VRR
@RedPillAlways well honestly I just want well optimized games PS5 pro is totally irrelevant,theres so many pc gpus out there but games are just horribly optimised.
@subjectivereviews 100% behind you on that.. like I said developers have proven you can make a magnificent beautiful well played game on a PS5 with the right optimization. But alot of devs are just pushing things out incomplete and fixing it on the go.. So a PS5 Pro will end up the same way an possibly make the PS5 worse..
I still think Online Multiplayer an Games-as-a-DISservice GARBAGE has hurt the gaming industry more then benefited it. Like Digital is killing ownership. But that's just me.
@@RedPillAlways yup good point
Yo - I need that BTILC vest Alex is sporting!
Well decoupling fps from logic is something that is done, but you can probably count the amount on your hands and toes.
Speaking as someone in their early to mid 40's and the target buyer demographic from PS1 to PS4, there is absolutely nothing of interest for me with PS5 or Xbox. I feel like I've seen all the AAA games done a million times already. I have a 1080p TV which I've no intention of replacing and all they are adding are graphical flourishes. I own a PC and Steam Deck and find that the indie and AA games available are perfectly entertaining enough.
If anyone can save console gaming it'll be Nintendo, but I fear they shifted away from making the types of games that I really enjoyed in the Gamecube era. As glorious as Mario Wonder was, where is the innovation?
Same here. I'm 42 and feel much the same. I picked up manor lords recently. Amazing city builder / total war hybrid. Heart & originality in spades.
The fact that Starfield is getting an uncapped framerate mode is going to make benchmarking the next Xbox platform soooooo damn easy. It's a ways off, but I look forward to seeing that comparison video when it drops 2 to 4 years from now.
and in 15 years when they get gyro and vr.
@@joejoe2658
Assuming they ever invest in those. It may never become necessary.
We will be able to quantify exactly how much of a lie that “biggest generational leap ever” quote ends up being
@@nickgovier
Or be able to quantify exactly how much of a generational leap the next consoles are if that "biggest generational leap ever" quote surprisingly turns out to be true.
Either or.
Whats really annoying is when mods drop to deactivate certain lighting or lower it with uncapped frame rate it will run at 60fps anyway. I had Skyrim running at 60fps on Xbox One by adding lower setting for street lights and uncapped frame rate and it felt smooth for 90% of the game
Hello everybody! Quick question please: I game on an LG C1. My question is; does Boost Mode (under Game Optimizer) activate in Stellar Blade's BALANCED mode?
DF kinda misses the main reason why this console gen is so slow; not enough good games. There is not a single ps5 or xhox series game that pushes hardware sales right now. No GTA (yet), no elder scrolls, no current gen COD or BF games. The best thing to come out for this gen so far is the matrix demo.
They've mentioned it often....you are just hearing what you want to hear
Not enough good games _that are arbitrarily held hostage on the console_
Everyone who wanted a current gen console already got one. So it is NATURAL that sales will go down of course. Not sure how these projections are not taking that into account!
Taking that into account means you put "line go up" in doubt, which is bearish for shareholders.
I would love to use the vrr on my tv, but it makes my screen flicker
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What does any of it mean?
Elite thumbnail. 👌🏼
Don't have VRR but have 120hz ? -- I see DF has not heard of PROJECTORS. Been gaming on one since the 4:3 days here.
I'm sorry please do excuse my ignorance but are you saying VRR is standard with projectors or that they don't experience screen tearing or something else that's gone completely over my head.
@@mynamejeffgaming They have high hz (120) but not VRR. Basically poking at the claim that if you have high hz you likely have VRR.
How is the input lag on a projector, not that great i presume?
@@mynamejeffgaming VRR is a nearly a complete no-show for projectors due to very high speed spinning wheels not being adjustable in real time :D
as long as there's no... you know... sun.
Hey DF might be a dumb question was wondering whether it COULD be possible for the PS5 Pro to play PS1,2,3 games via disc back compat? I wonder if the machine learning components would make that more accessible
Disk reading isn't the problem. It is the requirement of an emulator to run the game on the hardware.
I wish
My PS3 has problems and i still want to play those games
What Switch 2 should be concentrating on graphically is a 60fps target of a much higher fidelity 1080p DLSS Q image which TVs would upscale to 4K. The TV upscalers are today very good, so the final image presented would look better than native 1080p.