Considering how India was occupied until 1947 and US was free since 1776... indian engineers are extraordinary... India has created jet fighters, nukes, nuclear powered submarine, aircraft carriers..missiles.. Western hegemony over technology is over.. but hey India we are still ahead😊
The hardest part of the airplane is the engine, even the chinese are not able to produce good engines and are using Russian engine. And this airplane is using American GE engines, so no the hegemony is not ever, not even close.
@@nopingtrue I know producing engine is one of the toughest jobs. And America is literally the strongest country in terms of finance as well as military in the history of the world even if we achieve its 50 % then that would be enough to counter china and neighbouring threats. India has never invaded a country. Currently 4 jet engines are work in progress
The Tejas should initially be considered as a regional jet. There are several challenges where Tejas will become battle hardened and will become a world class fighter over time
@@Xentradi97 because india never sold outside plus india never had a major war to participate in in recent times. as for the last war we fought, well we did beat pakistan's ass to dust so yeah. check your facts again
@@Xentradi97 We are not a failed state ..we are getting up slowly..lets not leave everything on hope...let us make change in work ethic at place we work..
@@utkarshsingh3541 That's all good but extreme bureaucracy, corruption, and inefficiency within the system, and may I say it's a giant system, is really difficult to fix. You'll need a drastic measure like fire everyone and start all over. But then you still have the politicians to deal with.
It doesn't matter if tejas didn't match f-16 performance. This is an aircraft that we need in numbers. its a replacement for Mig-21s. All the delays that has happened and is happening is because we are trying to make Tejas into something it was not meant to be.
It is better actually . This comparison is clearly biased. He highlighted weight and ferry range only. Mk2 has 13 hardpoint for falcon 9, better aesa radar, less radar signature, better avionics, comparable or more combat range.
Thanks for video. Tejas world smallest fighter and i feel proud that in 80s where Tejas is built in Bangalore we use to play cricket and my friend brother is in Tejas wings design team.
As the saying goes .... "You get what you pay for" (mostly). The recent F16 specs are clearly better in most respects (especially range and engine thrust) than MK2, but so is the price tag. Tejas will be a good homegrown technology platform/prototype to jump off for future aircraft like AMCA. Being homegrown can be a huge advantage when it comes to parts, supplies and expertise for maintenance.
Yea as an Indian I also admit f16 is better than mk2 . But the at the price of Tejas u can get 70 % specs of f16 fight plane. Also u can put Russian , french, Israeli and America missile on Tejas mk2 . Do u know our indian airforce has put fox missile on mig 29 .
@@ppen8359yea , that's just totally depends on pilot skills, here indian pilot was skilled and brave plus even pakistan who has supported from US and has top class US weapons still faced defeated infront of India.
@@pratikshinde9064 That is bunch of nonsense Indians have spread. AIM 120 shot Mig 21 from over 50 miles away. The Mig 21 did not even know of F-16 presence. India is stuck in World War-2 era to think that all dog fights happen within visual range and pilot skills matter. That nonsense was sold by Russians to Indians to sell Russian planes. We can see how pilot skills are winning Ukraine war for Russia. Americans have advanced technology so that pilot skills do not matter. We do not leave things to humans, we want to win and win fast. This is exactly what Pak. F-16 did to Mig-21.
it will take another 7-8 years for India to build it's own first engine! And I am saying this based on how things in India works everything takes twice the manufacturing time that it should take!
@@cemo3292he is talking about the engines. The engines in those jets are not indigenous. The US, UK, Europe, russia and Japan make quality jet engines
Its just sad that India started making this in 2015 when the F16 was started in 1970s..It just shows how way behind we are in tech, manufacturing and probably everything when it comes to global superpowers like the US, Russia and China
Not everybody needs a Rolls Royce. Not everybody drives a Rolls Royce. IAF will not be fighting the Americans or the Russians directly. The equipment needs to live up to one’s requirement. The rest is all wet dreams!
Hard to compare an existing plane with something that's not yet built. True capabilities and specs may differ when planned compared to what will be built.
@@vin-bharatmahaan6569 : I have heard such comments about LCA(Tejas MK1) in early 2000s. And that too from people then working in LCA program. It was even said to be far superior that F16. In 2022 its still inferior to F-16 in many aspects. So, will believe the comments about MK2 it when it proves. Till then these claims are just khayali pulav.
@@Jyotishsr1982 Sure, You are right but I think you forget that people in LCA Programme compared that product with F16s at that block, not the recent one. If you open your eyes clearly then you can find LCA Tejas Mk1a as better aircraft as it has AESA radar which even Pakistan JF16 doesn't have and let me remind you those F16s are superior to F16s in 90's
Just hyping up...for overblown patriotism. Comparing an existing jet that has seen plenty of combat against a jet that has not even flown.... Yup, overblown patriotism...
finally, some person understands our mig21 destroyed an f16. even quality of pilots matter,with Tejas it would improve their operations much easier plus with their skill we would be at another level
Developing our own Kaveri engine to 125 KN and integrating it with Tejas MK2 will make it more lethal than F16 Block-70. I always feel Tejas MK2 should be 2 meters more long with 125 KN engine.
having bigger engine mean high heat signature, higher rcs. IAF's requirement can be fulfilled with the 98kn engine so why go for 125. we can produce mk2 in large numbers.
Before we start debating whether Tejas MK II is better than F16, let Tejas build some flight and combat records. F16 is proven with decades of actual combat performance record. Tejas MK2 may turn out to be an excellent aircraft but it has not yet been proven. On paper versus actual combat, it is very different. As the great boxer Mike Tyson is quoted as saying about his opponent's planning before fighting him, "All planning goes out of the window when one gets punched in the mouth"
@@direwolf7491 And you are basing this conclusion of yours on what factual evidence? F-16 is a single engine non TVC cropped delta wing, whereas the Su-35 is a twin engine 3D TVC streamlined body swept wing design, it any day can out manuever the F-16, the actual estimates would be 85:15, and that is me being generous.
Does it make any sense to compare an aircraft (Tejas Mk-2) which is still at least a decade away from being made, with the F-16, of which over 4,600 have been made?? The Block 70/72 still has countries awaiting delivery - Bahrain (16), Slovakia (14), Bulgaria (8), Morocco (25), Taiwan (66) and Jordan (8). Even Turkiye is interested in acquiring 40 𝘍𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘍𝘢𝘭𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘴.
It makes sense...cuz of budgets....and multirole capabilities...many of the counties in future will choose Tejas....cuz they knw US is not gonna help them in war...but india will help them protect themselves....whereas US motive is to increase capital for their Capitalist gods in weapons and defence mfg
@@Strawhatzzmany of the poor countries may buy it but india is a non aligned country, we would never be able to support another country like the way you are saying, it is true that america is doing it to fill the pockets of of their weapons industries so they have motivation to provide vast amount of weapons etc, putting their own special forces on the ground etc, india would take the non aligned approach just like we have with the russo-ukraine war
@@SilentTraveller21 it takes years to fully mature an aircraft, Tejas is not going to come out full mature, it will probably take a decade or so. Rafale was introduced in 2001 and became fully mature in around 2008.
A Hard truth! Comparing a legendary plane F-16 with CAD Model plane is absolutely rubbish. Not even a Single Tejas Mark 2 prototype is rolled out. Lot of testing phases Tejas Mark 2 has to undergo before induction in IAF and F-16 is a MWF Whereas Tejas Mark 2 sits between LCA and MWF like Mirage 2000. Pls make a meaningful comparison before presenting a video. Comparing this two planes will be meaningful only when Tejas Mark 2 starts induction in IAF.
@@aryanyadav3690 Bro That's our pilots talent! My point it is too early for comparison and there may be changes in Spec during the time of roll out and testing. Last year ADA displayed Tejas MK2 as MWF MK2 and in other occasion as LCA MK2 you can also Google it. And initially Tejas Mark 2 length was between 13.75 to 14 meters and now it is greater than 14.5 meters as per some website. Logically I ask you a question do we see Tejas MK2 on media flying in air like Tejas MK1? This Comparison must be done after 4 years when it starts induction in our air force.
A license-built Block 70+ F16 under the "Build in India" programme would probably cost much less than any version of the Tejas, including the "Super-Ajeet" Mk 1. That said, such a cost difference would not justify doing away with much of the country's aeronautical R&D capabilities. It is good to see that huge India has learned the lesson taught by tiny Israel's US-driven cancellation of its Lavie fighter project in the Eighties. Nowadays, Israel builds and markets a wide variety of aerospace subsystems, some indeed descended from those developed for the Lavie back in the days, but it remains unable to manufacture a complete up-to-date combat aircraft in-country, even though it can be argued that the IDF/AF is presently in dire need of at least a medium stealth bomber!
We learnt lesson when dire situation arrived. American didn't provide spare parts. So No license build of American sate of the armament. That's why we made Tejas from half indigenous and diverse import materials from trusted suppliers. In future we won't face American Red eyes while war with our adversary.
It's a start. Even if Tejas mk2 can match 60 to 70 percent of f16 it is good for us. I am sure our scientists can do wonders once they gain experience and get half of r&d budget which American firms get. Also to be among the great powers we can not rely on countries for armaments.
Still America refused to give nuclear submarine technology transfer to us, but they give it that to Australia. It only want use us. We will become strong on our own, slow and steady win the race. We can learn more lessons when we failed and also we can produce according to our requirements.
@@ManiS-wd2eu Get over yourself. India's political situation does not warrant the transfer of nuclear tech. You guys waffle between democratic and socialist and with you purchases of russian technology and sometimes cozy military relationship, surely you could understand our apprehension. Pick a side and you will get the best tech...
@@paulbellas8797 it's not political situations, compare to Russia is our most reliable and trustworthy country. You alway want to create a war for your own benifits or to destroy other countries economy. Pak is a terrorist country and you guy gives weapons to use against us. If a situation arise to a side then we will be on the Russians side you have your pet country like pak which has more experience in counter terrorist activities and their friend copy cat crooked china which suits your country's political situations.
Tejas is certainly a good fighter aircraft but still is a newbie and needs more improvement. Perhaps its third or fourth generation can match or even outmatch the capability of the jets made by countries who have a long-history of jet building. Because Experience Matters.
Latest F16 variant is the king of its segment, whereas Tejas is a fresh product. Hopefully Tejas will mature over the time and maybe its next versions will be on par with current F16 fighters.
@@napobg6842 By all means, buy cheap low quality stuff. When it comes to high quality and performance, America will always have #1 rank. Just look at Ukraine. Wherever American hardware is that is where victory is.
@@ppen8359 Yeah but here it come the "snap back to reality" moment. People love reading specs but when it came to real world effectiveness the American weapon is unmatched. That's because one is build based on real-world combat experience and the other is made to satisfy the nerd feelings
@@napobg6842 America makes quality weapons because it fights all the time. Other countries just make weapons to sell. They very well know that their weapons are not designed to fight US weapons. There are very few countries that are "non-aligned." Countries like China and Russia cannot buy US weapons. India and Pakistan are the only countries that have a choice. The remaining countries who are not allies are way to poor to buy anything.
We should consider the price with specs. Here Tejas MK2 is at par with F16V (may be lacking in few areas), at a lower cost. The cost incurred, will be transferred from Indian Airforce to HAL and not to a different country (except the cost of engine and seat ejection system) if MK2 is purchased
@@shadow_edits03 India is delusional to think that anyone will give it technology. People may give you outdated or inefficient technology, but literally no one will give you the state of the art technology. Even that 1960s old jet technology will not be given to India.
The latest F16 version, F16V, is definitely ahead of Tejas mk2. But older versions of F16s such as block 50s will not be able to match Tejas mk2's AESA and sensor fusion.
The specs don't warrant your conclusion. But F16 has a long and overall successful combat hstory; whereas Tejas is yet to be combat proven. On the other hand, F16 was successful in yesterday's wars; tomorrow's wars with electronic warfare, drone technology, AI etc. are going to be something different where theoretically, Tejas being of later vintage should do better. An entirley separate aspect is India's choice, where conditions of use, upgrades and weapons to be exclusively of US approved make and possible future sanctions make the F15 a problematic choice.
@@physicsonline8853 you missed just one point : india is buying/using tejas to fight two professional air forces of china and pakistan....not to bomb some defenseless countries unlike what USA did. F16 never got a good opponent....also American datas should not be trusted blindly...didnt they claim big things about their MIM patriot? We all know what happened to it in actual war.
The only variant that has been given the term as the Viper is the Lockheed Martin F-16V, Block 70/72 variants the latest among its type as the 4.5 Generation Multi Role Fighter, while the old variants such as the F-16A/B's and the F-16C/D's are still use the term as the "Fighting Falcon" although the old variants would become Viper, when it could possibly modify or upgrade the said units into the Block 70 Viper configuration.
CONGRATULATIONS!!! for posting the most SHORT SIGHTED video on RUclips, by comparing a battle proven, time tested aircraft and an aircraft that is still on paper. BRAVO
Every new tech lacks experience bro.. Cant judge aircraft's on the basis of experience.. It's necessary but that's not a factor that's determines which Fighter is actually better.. It is just used to convince people that its reliable... That's all..
@@napobg6842 It is.. But combat experience for newly invented tech is little bit difficult because we live in a peace full world..our intention is to solve everything through diplomacy.. So real combat experience is hard to aquire for newly invented tech... That doesn't mean the tech is bad.. Thats all 😊
@@rryzzzi2026 oohoo m na bss guess kia tha wo tajes baboo 30years sa Jo ni bana si Wala to socha yh kh dta hn ap ki jalay hi to si Thali bajaooo carona bhgaoo wh modi g wh
When a Mig21 capable of shooting F16 it is no match against LCA 2 armed with Metiare and Astra 1 2 and 3 India is very close to U S in Military technology
bro check f 16 c latest one its still is potent dogfighter with super cockpit design now new one can manage sustainable turn 60 % of sukhoi with vectering thrust we are no where as near as f16 of today update but we are in term of avoincs at par with 1990s only as of now we need more private desi companies like tata and mahindra or any small startupwith big data and design and colabrate with tata and hal then we will have some one like elon without private brilliance away from security of government employee mindset
@@yeh2011 We need better collaboration between private sector, public sector R&D and Engineering Universities like IITs and IISc. The Universities can play a very key role if they can be involved by the private sector for research.
@@sadynasty Yes, true. Delta wings do provide more room for hardpoints. I think we need to build a fighter like the F15 Strike Eagle for Air Superiority and Air to Ground missions to complement AMCA. Hope after TEDBF and ORCA we will work on something like an F15 for much higher payloads and good air to air combat capability.
@@yeh2011 I never liked the F16 fighter, it's just the air intake design under the belly seems weird. F-15EX Eagle 2 however, that one is a sexy fighter.
I think its not wise to compare two fighters you know Tejas is still on the paper. Not even one prototype being built. Its all imaginary yet. Lets see when the first proptype is rolled out. Even on the paper f 16 stiil beats the charts. Over 120 KN power what the f 16 has, I think India will have to do a serious work.
40 tejas have already been delivered. We at least made something. Your country cant even manufacture a motorcycle and you come here to comment. Now STFU and go to school instead of Madrasas.
@@irfankhan-bk4up dude we don’t care about your leader or country. You’re the one trash talking about India when your country is begging IMF and China for everything.
@@irfankhan-bk4up Ab tumhari democracy hi khtm hai to kya kare.. Tum dusro se jaloge hi.. Go n search about Tejas.. tum log India se apna comparison krte bhi kis muh se ho😂Hum log aircraft manufacture krrhe hai or sell bhi krrhe hai.. Tumne to banane tk ki sochi bhi nhi hogi..
Even if tejas is half decent as F16, the very fact that it's indigenous, gives a lot of relief to India. Forget about what it can do in the sky, what it has already achieved on negotiation table is in itself amazing. When you have a homegrown option, there's one less leverage point that US can blackmail India with. One less weak link, one less thing to worry. If US says "you'll need a lot more tejas to have same effectiveness as one fleet of f16" we can simply say... So?
F16 1st flight was in 1974. Tejas mk 2 first flight hasn't even happened yet. If a modern variant of the F16 is better than a yet to be produced plane then you should go back to the drawing board and make a better plane.
the f 16 kept getting upgrades over time though. like mig 21 which is now as powerful as a 4th gen fighter even though it is a 3rd gen fighter. all because of the upgrades. the defence sector doesn't work with "civilian" ideas
@@bigbrawler7078 if the foundation is good, the plane can last as you upgrade the equipment. However the Tejas needed an upgrade as soon as it was built. And a further update , mk2, to allow it to complete with todays plane. Note today not future as it is too bog standard.
@@lesliecheung1478 you came back over here just to reply to this? Lmao. Actually, I'll say it's not the pride and joy but rather a desperate need. The previous governments were so fucking corrupt that all they did was do money laundering and never give shit to defence sectors. The current government is the first one to actually buy modern weapons that can keep up with times. So yeah we had to keep them around to make sure we had enough squadrons. But i do admit that yes we lacked weapons and that's why mig 21s stayed around. It's a matter of shame and not pride to India. And that is why they are developed Tejas, bought rafale, developing amca and Tejas mk2.. there are plans to buy super hornet too along with deals to make or buy more 5th gen+ fighter air crafts. You're not wrong and i won't put on a fake toxic patriotic stand. I know my country has flaws and i also know that is trying to get over them. Sending peace and love.
Tejas mk-2 is not yet made but f-16 had made for 43 yrs in service, So how can be compared ? Is this a criteria for comparisons ? Tejas mk-2 is not manufactured and achieved any thing for success or failure also takeoff yet, how did you compared ? There may be default and weakness in Tejas mk-2 but without test or examination, how did you proved it as cent 100% configured ? Thank you.
Composite materials acts in no way in reducing rcs. Radiation bounce back from any flat solid material regardless its metal or composite only geometry and ram coatings aids in stealth
The F-16 has a better radar and technology. India is not on the level of matching US technology, even China isn’t there yet and China is decades ahead of India
@@emperiumlegacy900 but the newer F-16 is getting radar of F-35, stronger engine and upgraded EW suite. And it was never confirmed that it was an F-16 that was shot down.
According to the video the fuel capacity of the Tejas mk2 is more and it lighter but f16 has a far longer range. Is there some difference in other parameters?
F16 vs MK2 - heavier , less fuel storage and yet more range and more weapon carrying capacity with better engine . I think Tejas MK2 long way to go n sure u will be the best some day n you shall be “MADE in INDIA” Jai hind !
I liked the thing abt tejas that even if anything happened to pilot during the mission then people can still operate it from the ground just like drones😉🙌
@@gaswhole if pilot gets uncouncious, then Tejas will send a message to command center and from there they can make a safe landing of aircraft and save the pilot too.
Considering our requirement in northern front for higher flying level in Himalayan range, taking over of operational control by ground crew , Tejas Mk-II far superior than F-16.
@@anonkni8I think he means the delta wing of the Tejas having better manoeuvrability in higher altitude due to it having a larger surface area. With the northern borders of India being the Himalayas, a delta wing design would be beneficial.
To all those who say that Tejas Mk2 is yet to fly: Please understand that in a way, Tejas Mk2 has already been flying for over two decades, and has already been 60-65% tested. This is because it is an improved version of Tejas Mk1, which has been exhaustively tested, and whose behaviour is now well-established. The aerodynamics, stability, performance, and capability of the Mk2 in terms of performing various missions it will be used for, will not be very different from that of Mk1 - only slightly better. For India, it is going to be a god-send, and unquestionably far superior to a F16 Block 70/72 designed several decades ago, and given several makeovers to make it appear modern!
Why not compare the mythical MK2 with the Spitfire or maybe the Sopwith Camel!?! The F16 is a design from 1970 and the yet to be born Tejas MK2 may fly in 2025. That's 55 years apart! There was only a 40 year difference between the Spitfire and the F16.
We atleast made an attempt. Makes a lot of difference in designing and manufacturing a jet rather than just stealing technologies and assembling them. Madrasa educated pigs like you cant even dream of making a motorcycle from scratch let alone jet.
@@thenoobdashow7428 I wasn't advising any country. I was mocking a so-called defense channel for comparing a fightee that debuted in 1975 to one that is scheduled to fly in 2025. BTW, HAL announced in 2021 that Tejas MK2 fprototupe will be ready by June 2022, then unofficially it was August 2022, now it is sometime in 2023 according to you. If HAL cant deliver on projects with 1 year timelines, it is has no real capacity to manage projects.
very first of all we all can see tejas mk 2 would have combat range of 2500 km which is good enough for iaf, where as f16 had 4500 km range. and one more thing is that situation and needs of usaf are different then indian. even usaf is also backed by good enough budget, where as not only iaf even all three branches of indian armed forces are still lacking in good budget. coz usa's economic conditions are stable and capable enough where as indian economy is still growing so iaf is ballencing thing with low budget which is very good. nd second thing is that usa had already well developed and experienced technology and self reliable materials to built world class fighter aircraft. where as now we had achieved the technology but still we are depending on foreign markets to collect items and then use it on our technology. so in my views no doubt in technological demostration and qualities tejas mk2 is sounding more advance then f16 but we need to remember one thing f16 is combat proven aircraft with more then 20 years of experience nd now lockhead martin is also apply technologies developed for f35 in f16 in new updates as well.which could more lethal then current updates. where as tejas mk2 is still underdevelopment and not flied yet. but we had trust on our industries. and hoping best for tejas mk2 but the fact is that still tejas mk2 should have to prove alot of thing before get compared with combat proved nd reliable f16. i hope things are clear above i said.
Please tell me in which war USA used F16s? As I understand it is US Navy who used their carrier based fighters for all wars along with NATO aircrafts. Can you explain me please?
F16 range is fake because low fuel storage and the capability of engine capacity is not suitable measures. High weight carrying also reduce the range. They is no flight for ranging 4000 kms. This is not true
Is MK2 ready for production, HAL is known for its speedy delivery. How many squadrons will Mk2 be induced by 2026.Egarly waiting for updated video on this as Tejas MK2 ought to be ready by 2023
I think we should not compare the 2 jets Tejas mk2 is too young to capture the market , while F16 is well set in the world market ,but anyways it's the general tendency to compare, overall a good video, thank you
F-16 is well set in the world market, because it was designed to easily incorporate future technologies, the reason F-16 Block 70/72 has feature of F-22 and F-35. Unless Tejas is built in such a way it won't be able to catch world market.
It's a great feet already for Tejas MK2 to be compared to something as lethal as "viper", while Tejas MK2 might fare slightly less than the latest F16, however it would still be a lethal machine better than Mirage 2000s that India has and can easily be a staple as far as single engine fighter aircraft fleet of IAF. We can't really boast of better fighter aircraft technology unless we would make our own jet engines. While ours is no less of an achievement but we cannot ridicule the world leader in F16 as far as single engine fighter aircraft is concerned.
Tejas mk1 beats Mirage2000 Tejas mk1A beats or atleast matches Su-30MKI and easily beats F-16C/D variants that Pakistan operates. Tejas mk2 will have to beat the latest F-16. There's no option.
I want Tejas MK2 production to be expedited as far as practicable, with simultaneous developement of of our indigenous ejection seat and more powerfull own engines( 110 KN).
An aircraft is considered primarily superior on its speed & altitude with pay load capacity. In 1st two parameters Tejas is far superior then F16 and hardly difference in the 3rd. Finally cost makes far more attractive Tejas then F16
You mean speed which is exactly the same, altitude which is exactly the same and capacity that favors the F-16 oh and range which again favors the F-16, oh and radar and electronics which again favors the F-16. The price is more or less the same as well. The given figures are not accurate in the video
India: What can we compare our new, not even flying yet, fighter to so it looks good? How about the F16 which has been around since the late 70's? Is there anything newer? That's pretty old. Not if you want the Tejas to look good. 🤣 Thanks India. You guys are entertaining. 🙂
I still don't understand the fact that we are comparing a legendary fighter like F-16 which is evolving till the date with a fighter who's prototype is still incomplete. Radar, weapons we talk about is great on paper but isn't it premature to make comparisons? The Mk2 might even become the best in its class but unless it sees the light boasting about it is a waste of time
Video's made to attract Desi views. You think anyone outside India really cares about our indigenous products? Our quality isn't there yet, unfortunately.
@@krodh9946 I don't think so. Tejas MK1A stands out amongst its competitors like JF-17, Layoning L-15 of China, FA-50 of KAI and other trainers. The latest Boeing- T7 which is the latest trainer in the list has very poor radar and less composites in air frame hence it's cheaper price of 19 million. So on the market Tejas is the best fighter trainer available. My problem with this video is the propoganda. We used to Jf-17 for the same and now we are doing the same.
The IAF did choose Tejas jet but the service Editor General criticised the design for failing to meet 53 criteria, including failing in its radar-and-missiles warning systems, limited internal fuel, underpowered engine relative airframe weight, and lack of electronic warfare support.
@@AbhishekKumar-cd2tm French Rafale jets project is given to the incompetent HAL, it's a disaster to India's aspiration to be a top notch producer of military aircraft like Turkey, Indonesia, China, Pakistan and Israel.
@@luakabsalam1816 Keep living in la la land Fantasy... Tejas mk 2 1st prototype will roll out next month.. And 5 th gen AMCA prototype will roll out in 2024,along with TEDBF 2025,IMRH2025,...thanks to incompetent HAL... 😅😂😅 Sorry bro u middle East jihadis 🐷🐖🐷 can't keep up with india.. Go do jihad some where else
@@AbhishekKumar-cd2tm 22 hours ago (now 1720 hrs, 13 October 2022 Singapore time), a MiG-29K of the Indian Navy has crashed into the Indian Ocean off Goa Coast due to technical malfunction. Pilot ejected safely.
@Cool Sparkz It's complicated. Indian generals are in constant internal politic and sabotage the plane so that they crashed often. However, according to latest news, all Indians now agreed to make India as real superpower and cooperate So, this is our brave plan for our Tejas 2022 to take down J-20 2023 to take down J-35 2024 to take down SU-57 2025 to take down F-35 2026 to take down F-22 2027 to take down FXA (US 6th generation) 2027 to take down Tempest (UK 6th generation)
India will be an ultra superpower if the nation were never colonized by others. Its people have a great potential in all the field. Smart and intelligent enough to be a superpower in this planet.
@@John_wick604 Beta? Gamma? What's that about? It is not better than F-16! The most modern F-16 Block 70/72 has more powerful engine, vaastly superior radar and it is faster. It is just a superior jet
I'm surprised the Tejas has such low payload (by weight) when its wingplan has such a big advantage in surface area which should translate to lift. That said, despite a number of features like speed, range and attitude that make the Tejas better than the older design F-16, I'd prefer the Falcon by a long shot for its track record of reliability to accomplish the mission with whatever munitions load is best suited. Nothing was mentioned in fact on the Tejas estimated cost per flight hour, but I'm going to guess the F-16 is probably one of the cheapest planes to fly that exists due to how long systems have been worked out and optimized through experience and being a single engine fighter. Maybe the Tejas can make that altitude feature work in the Himalaysa but if the F-16 isn't bothered by high altitude missions, maybe the Tejas doesn't have an edge here, too.
At a given engine thrust, a larger wing area degrades acceleration i.e. energy recovery after a hard instantaneous turn. F-16 is designed for vortex lift generation at a slight angle of attack with low drag. F-16XL's larger wing has higher drag at an angle of attack and degraded acceleration. Fighter jets are designed around the engine's thrust target.
the mk 2 will be superior to the blk 52 and will be closer to performance of f16 blk 60/70 and gripen E. Although american a2g solutions will be superior
@@karanvarma4843 Tejas Mk2 still has a 44 m2 wing area with just a 98 kN (22,000 lbf) engine with a future 110 kN (24,000 lbf) engine upgrade. F-16C Block 50 has 29,500 lbf (131 kN) GE engine. F-16C Block 52 has 29,560 lbf (131.5 kN) PW engine. F-16E Block 60 has 32,500 lbf (145 kN) GE engine. For a sustained turn rate, Gripen C was beaten by SU-27SK despite Gripen's low wing loading. The wing itself has lift drag factors. For the given wing size, Gripen C is underpowered. Gripen C's lower RCS is an advantage over SU-27SK. A slight angle of attack with high drag due to a larger wing will gimp vortex lift generation. For 4th gen designs, there are many factors in aircraft design, not just basic wing loading i.e. it's easy to attach a large wing e.g. F-16XL, F-35C.
F 16 is an out dated jet while the tejas is a new generation fighter jet. comparing those jet performance together is like comparing a maruti car 800 with a swift.
They are exactly the same generation and they serve similar role. That being less expensive and lower maintenance in high volume production. Block 70 is new and has beyond superior avionics than Tejas
F16 is a battle hardned jet. Whereas Tejas is a newcomer. We have a lot to catch up. But, we are making moves towards that. We may face difficulties in the process but it is better to try and fail than fail to try.
@Jetline Marvel Hello, I have a question Tejas Mk2 have fuel capacity of 3400 kgs with 98 KN of engine with empty wt 7850 kgs F16 have fuel capacity of 3200 kgs with 127 KN of engine with empty wt 8600 kgs and its (F16) range is 4220 kms where Tejas Mk2 has range of 2500 kms (despite of having low capacity engine and high fuel capacity) Please can you explain why is the huge difference in range?
I am from Pakistan and impressed by the INDIAN TEJAS very fast and good manuverable... every machine has a purpose that's why it's designed for it... JF17 also made not for only to compete TEJAS could serve many purpose..."its not machine that fight it's the person behind it who fight"... but after all if you compare the both IAF and PAF history... PAF proved to be the best in descipline, excellence and war air superiority ... not because of the SIZE but quality of FIGHTER PILOTS the brains behind the machines...
@AJAY RANA you can't just add a bigger engine! the airframe and all other components must be able to mesh with it and handle it. When you change an engine, you might have to redesign the airframe... that will make it a different aircraft. it is like trying to put a truck engine into a car to make it more powerful... If MK-2 was designed to handle a 125KN engine, then it is a possibility.
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Considering how India was occupied until 1947 and US was free since 1776... indian engineers are extraordinary... India has created jet fighters, nukes, nuclear powered submarine, aircraft carriers..missiles.. Western hegemony over technology is over.. but hey India we are still ahead😊
looking forward for a friendly Competition because we too love weapons
Modern tech has made the world a village,this is the age of hypersonic bro we are running beside you let's see..
The hardest part of the airplane is the engine, even the chinese are not able to produce good engines and are using Russian engine. And this airplane is using American GE engines, so no the hegemony is not ever, not even close.
@@nopingtrue I know producing engine is one of the toughest jobs. And America is literally the strongest country in terms of finance as well as military in the history of the world even if we achieve its 50 % then that would be enough to counter china and neighbouring threats. India has never invaded a country. Currently 4 jet engines are work in progress
yes Western Hegemony is over but great India is still using US tech and engines in tejas mk2 😂😂
The Tejas should initially be considered as a regional jet. There are several challenges where Tejas will become battle hardened and will become a world class fighter over time
I wouldn't get my hopes up. DRDO doesn't have a good record of producing world class weapons except on paper.
@@Xentradi97 because india never sold outside plus india never had a major war to participate in in recent times. as for the last war we fought, well we did beat pakistan's ass to dust so yeah. check your facts again
@@Xentradi97 It is true...but lets see what happens next...anything can boom ...may be they have worked in the backend
@@Xentradi97 We are not a failed state ..we are getting up slowly..lets not leave everything on hope...let us make change in work ethic at place we work..
@@utkarshsingh3541 That's all good but extreme bureaucracy, corruption, and inefficiency within the system, and may I say it's a giant system, is really difficult to fix. You'll need a drastic measure like fire everyone and start all over. But then you still have the politicians to deal with.
Hope Tejas MK-2's first flight will not delay 🔥
It'll be 4.5 Gen Fighter with BrahMos & Astra 🚀
F16 is an old design but still a great plane 👍
It's rollout is expected this year last and first flight next year
Tejas is also old design started in early 80s...F16 the most recent varient would still be more dangerous then Tejas mk2..
@@azeemfarooq7480 it was started in 80's but the design is not from 80's.
We won't be using an 80'S DESIGN in 2022.
@@azeemfarooq7480 Abe madhurchod tejash mark 2 is in 2023 ok
@@azeemfarooq7480 islie mig 21 se margiraya bc
It doesn't matter if tejas didn't match f-16 performance. This is an aircraft that we need in numbers. its a replacement for Mig-21s. All the delays that has happened and is happening is because we are trying to make Tejas into something it was not meant to be.
No Tejas MK2 is not a replacement for MiG-21 .. Tejas MK 1A is a replacement for MiG-21.. Tejas MK 2 will replace Jaguar , Mirage 2000
@@Vidash_Dalmotra : Yeah.. first let us replace Mig-21.
It is better actually . This comparison is clearly biased. He highlighted weight and ferry range only. Mk2 has 13 hardpoint for falcon 9, better aesa radar, less radar signature, better avionics, comparable or more combat range.
@@Jyotishsr1982we already are....
@@adityaaadi4835But he also didn’t mention that one is on paper other is flying..
Thanks for video. Tejas world smallest fighter and i feel proud that in 80s where Tejas is built in Bangalore we use to play cricket and my friend brother is in Tejas wings design team.
It's a small fighter to be cheap yet you can't even build many of them.
Bro it takes time to build fighter jets at least India is trying to become a self sustained military power
F-16 is a deadly machine of present time but Tejas mark 2 is for IAF future requirements.
The US refused to sell the F-16 to India.
So there was no choice, but to develop the Tejas.
@@Krisharv first fright maybe Oct 2025 hopefully 🤞
India never wanted a jet that operated by neighbour enemy. @@narenmenon6906
Don't compare junk with Art of excellence with proven record of capabilities
As the saying goes .... "You get what you pay for" (mostly). The recent F16 specs are clearly better in most respects (especially range and engine thrust) than MK2, but so is the price tag. Tejas will be a good homegrown technology platform/prototype to jump off for future aircraft like AMCA. Being homegrown can be a huge advantage when it comes to parts, supplies and expertise for maintenance.
Yea as an Indian I also admit f16 is better than mk2 .
But the at the price of Tejas u can get 70 % specs of f16 fight plane.
Also u can put Russian , french, Israeli and America missile on Tejas mk2 .
Do u know our indian airforce has put fox missile on mig 29 .
@@pratikshinde9064 Unfortunately, same Indians will say Mig-21 can shoot down F-16.
@@ppen8359yea , that's just totally depends on pilot skills, here indian pilot was skilled and brave plus even pakistan who has supported from US and has top class US weapons still faced defeated infront of India.
@@ppen8359 mig 21 can't buy r73 missile can
@@pratikshinde9064 That is bunch of nonsense Indians have spread. AIM 120 shot Mig 21 from over 50 miles away. The Mig 21 did not even know of F-16 presence. India is stuck in World War-2 era to think that all dog fights happen within visual range and pilot skills matter. That nonsense was sold by Russians to Indians to sell Russian planes. We can see how pilot skills are winning Ukraine war for Russia. Americans have advanced technology so that pilot skills do not matter. We do not leave things to humans, we want to win and win fast. This is exactly what Pak. F-16 did to Mig-21.
As An Indian, I am not satisfied Calling tejas as completely an Indian fighter jet unless we build its own engine instead of importing it from USA..
it will take another 7-8 years for India to build it's own first engine! And I am saying this based on how things in India works everything takes twice the manufacturing time that it should take!
By this criteria, you can't call Gripen as Swedish fighter, jf17 cannot be called Chinese fighter, KAI Tfx cannot be called South Korean fighter
@@rishabhmaheshwari2088 Tfx is Turkish KF-21 is south Korean
@@cemo3292he is talking about the engines. The engines in those jets are not indigenous. The US, UK, Europe, russia and Japan make quality jet engines
As a Indian you don’t know what is globalization
Tejas is an outstanding aircraft for India’s regional self-deference needs. Outstanding homegrown accomplishment.
Apnay moonh mian mitthu😜😜😜😜
@@darkman11111 haha pak child come to see indian jet😁1 tejas coast =pak whole gdp
But how any proof??
@@rahulgandhigandhi4242. Search up Wikipedia??
@@trijalinamdar5396 sab gobar ke sasty nashy hai
Its just sad that India started making this in 2015 when the F16 was started in 1970s..It just shows how way behind we are in tech, manufacturing and probably everything when it comes to global superpowers like the US, Russia and China
OH PLEASE lmao the f16 has been upgraded and changed many times over since its first model
Do you know how to read did f16 have aesa radar in 70s or fly by wire or same engine or digital fly by wire it's a new plane
Not everybody needs a Rolls Royce. Not everybody drives a Rolls Royce.
IAF will not be fighting the Americans or the Russians directly.
The equipment needs to live up to one’s requirement.
The rest is all wet dreams!
@@shamkay832all that shows is how they are way more experienced than we are at making high tech weaponry,
India got independence in 1947 only.
Hard to compare an existing plane with something that's not yet built. True capabilities and specs may differ when planned compared to what will be built.
@@vin-bharatmahaan6569 : I have heard such comments about LCA(Tejas MK1) in early 2000s. And that too from people then working in LCA program. It was even said to be far superior that F16. In 2022 its still inferior to F-16 in many aspects. So, will believe the comments about MK2 it when it proves. Till then these claims are just khayali pulav.
@@Jyotishsr1982 Sure, You are right but I think you forget that people in LCA Programme compared that product with F16s at that block, not the recent one. If you open your eyes clearly then you can find LCA Tejas Mk1a as better aircraft as it has AESA radar which even Pakistan JF16 doesn't have and let me remind you those F16s are superior to F16s in 90's
Just hyping up...for overblown patriotism.
Comparing an existing jet that has seen plenty of combat against a jet that has not even flown....
Yup, overblown patriotism...
@Prranjal will Nuke U all "quite a few" ?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡🧠🧠🧠🚫🚫
@Cool Sparkz we thinking because we have brain
Compare it with our mig21....we shot down one f16 in paxtan..
finally, some person understands our mig21 destroyed an f16.
even quality of pilots matter,with Tejas it would improve their operations much easier plus with their skill we would be at another level
Your mig 21 and su-30MKI was shot down aswell
@@MrFezaan only mig 21 was shot down before it took down your flagship f 16
@@MrFezaan Keep dreaming of Su30MKI 😆
@@aryanyadav3690 why dont you go and check it yourself it happened in 2019 in Kashmir air strike.... then you will know who's dreaming and who's not
Developing our own Kaveri engine to 125 KN and integrating it with Tejas MK2 will make it more lethal than F16 Block-70. I always feel Tejas MK2 should be 2 meters more long with 125 KN engine.
Kaveri Engine is still Unknown
having bigger engine mean high heat signature, higher rcs. IAF's requirement can be fulfilled with the 98kn engine so why go for 125. we can produce mk2 in large numbers.
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@@475girish half true,
All technical aspects are being addressed now technologies getting matured.
Dont worry you will hear in next 6 years.
@@475girish we are making new jet engines with France's Saffron..!!
Before we start debating whether Tejas MK II is better than F16, let Tejas build some flight and combat records. F16 is proven with decades of actual combat performance record. Tejas MK2 may turn out to be an excellent aircraft but it has not yet been proven. On paper versus actual combat, it is very different. As the great boxer Mike Tyson is quoted as saying about his opponent's planning before fighting him, "All planning goes out of the window when one gets punched in the mouth"
Bro don't excited your self it wouldn't going to induct before 2040 when whole world will owning 7th generation aircraft
Mig 21 is enough for f16 to defeat in combat, its proven already 😂😂
Mig 21 Vs F 16 😁😁😁😁😁
😂 Silently destroyed 🤣
F-16 shot down a Su-30MKI😎✌
@@junkookbts1273 in your dreams 😂lol
@@junkookbts1273f16! Shot down by a mig 💀 1971 entire pak Air Force depleted
@@junkookbts1273 when & where🤣
After Tejas equipped Brahmos, F-15 will become a joke.
The viper is highly maneuverable. Will give Su-35 a run for its money at close combat
@@direwolf7491 What? Bruh the F-16 comes nowhere close to the Su-35 in terms of manueverability.
@@tritonx5433 It actually does. Su-35 and F16s have 60-40 chance.
@@direwolf7491 And you are basing this conclusion of yours on what factual evidence? F-16 is a single engine non TVC cropped delta wing, whereas the Su-35 is a twin engine 3D TVC streamlined body swept wing design, it any day can out manuever the F-16, the actual estimates would be 85:15, and that is me being generous.
This comment is so stupid I can't believe
Does it make any sense to compare an aircraft (Tejas Mk-2) which is still at least a decade away from being made, with the F-16, of which over 4,600 have been made?? The Block 70/72 still has countries awaiting delivery - Bahrain (16), Slovakia (14), Bulgaria (8), Morocco (25), Taiwan (66) and Jordan (8). Even Turkiye is interested in acquiring 40 𝘍𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘍𝘢𝘭𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘴.
It makes sense...cuz of budgets....and multirole capabilities...many of the counties in future will choose Tejas....cuz they knw US is not gonna help them in war...but india will help them protect themselves....whereas US motive is to increase capital for their Capitalist gods in weapons and defence mfg
Yes, it does.
@@Strawhatzzmany of the poor countries may buy it but india is a non aligned country, we would never be able to support another country like the way you are saying, it is true that america is doing it to fill the pockets of of their weapons industries so they have motivation to provide vast amount of weapons etc, putting their own special forces on the ground etc, india would take the non aligned approach just like we have with the russo-ukraine war
@@Strawhatzzlmao and how will india do that with no jet to sell?
@@SilentTraveller21 it takes years to fully mature an aircraft, Tejas is not going to come out full mature, it will probably take a decade or so. Rafale was introduced in 2001 and became fully mature in around 2008.
India's combat aircraft getting mature. From here on next generation aircraft will be formidable.👌
Training, planning, objective brings results, sometimes technology lags behind. World saw example of first kill score of f16 by MIG 21 Bison of IAF.
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if they keep naming it names like "Tejas" nobody will be afraid of it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the next plane will be "Bharat" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Inquisite1031 we don't want people to be scared of a name,unlike a certain religion😜🤣🤣🤣so yeh,keep crying😂
A Hard truth! Comparing a legendary plane F-16 with CAD Model plane is absolutely rubbish. Not even a Single Tejas Mark 2 prototype is rolled out. Lot of testing phases Tejas Mark 2 has to undergo before induction in IAF and F-16 is a MWF Whereas Tejas Mark 2 sits between LCA and MWF like Mirage 2000. Pls make a meaningful comparison before presenting a video. Comparing this two planes will be meaningful only when Tejas Mark 2 starts induction in IAF.
Your legendary F16 was shot down by our MiG 21
LOL that legendary plane shot down by another legendary plane Mig 21 😆
@@aryanyadav3690 Bro That's our pilots talent! My point it is too early for comparison and there may be changes in Spec during the time of roll out and testing. Last year ADA displayed Tejas MK2 as MWF MK2 and in other occasion as LCA MK2 you can also Google it. And initially Tejas Mark 2 length was between 13.75 to 14 meters and now it is greater than 14.5 meters as per some website. Logically I ask you a question do we see Tejas MK2 on media flying in air like Tejas MK1? This Comparison must be done after 4 years when it starts induction in our air force.
Venkat Ram Tejas MK-2 will start Flying from 2023.
@@babuvishwass5910 prototype fly on 2023 not inducted if they maintain timeline, after all HAL is expert of mismanagement
F16 is legendery fighter plane
A license-built Block 70+ F16 under the "Build in India" programme would probably cost much less than any version of the Tejas, including the "Super-Ajeet" Mk 1. That said, such a cost difference would not justify doing away with much of the country's aeronautical R&D capabilities. It is good to see that huge India has learned the lesson taught by tiny Israel's US-driven cancellation of its Lavie fighter project in the Eighties. Nowadays, Israel builds and markets a wide variety of aerospace subsystems, some indeed descended from those developed for the Lavie back in the days, but it remains unable to manufacture a complete up-to-date combat aircraft in-country, even though it can be argued that the IDF/AF is presently in dire need of at least a medium stealth bomber!
We learnt lesson when dire situation arrived. American didn't provide spare parts. So No license build of American sate of the armament. That's why we made Tejas from half indigenous and diverse import materials from trusted suppliers. In future we won't face American Red eyes while war with our adversary.
It's a start. Even if Tejas mk2 can match 60 to 70 percent of f16 it is good for us. I am sure our scientists can do wonders once they gain experience and get half of r&d budget which American firms get. Also to be among the great powers we can not rely on countries for armaments.
Still America refused to give nuclear submarine technology transfer to us, but they give it that to Australia.
It only want use us.
We will become strong on our own, slow and steady win the race. We can learn more lessons when we failed and also we can produce according to our requirements.
@@ManiS-wd2eu Get over yourself. India's political situation does not warrant the transfer of nuclear tech. You guys waffle between democratic and socialist and with you purchases of russian technology and sometimes cozy military relationship, surely you could understand our apprehension. Pick a side and you will get the best tech...
@@paulbellas8797 it's not political situations, compare to Russia is our most reliable and trustworthy country. You alway want to create a war for your own benifits or to destroy other countries economy. Pak is a terrorist country and you guy gives weapons to use against us.
If a situation arise to a side then we will be on the Russians side you have your pet country like pak which has more experience in counter terrorist activities and their friend copy cat crooked china which suits your country's political situations.
Tejas is certainly a good fighter aircraft but still is a newbie and needs more improvement. Perhaps its third or fourth generation can match or even outmatch the capability of the jets made by countries who have a long-history of jet building. Because Experience Matters.
Latest F16 variant is the king of its segment, whereas Tejas is a fresh product. Hopefully Tejas will mature over the time and maybe its next versions will be on par with current F16 fighters.
US will keep the advantage. America could have given India better engine for Tejas MK2 but it didn't.
@@ppen8359 It is about what Indians buy not what America gave them
@@napobg6842 By all means, buy cheap low quality stuff. When it comes to high quality and performance, America will always have #1 rank. Just look at Ukraine. Wherever American hardware is that is where victory is.
@@ppen8359 Yeah but here it come the "snap back to reality" moment. People love reading specs but when it came to real world effectiveness the American weapon is unmatched. That's because one is build based on real-world combat experience and the other is made to satisfy the nerd feelings
@@napobg6842 America makes quality weapons because it fights all the time. Other countries just make weapons to sell. They very well know that their weapons are not designed to fight US weapons. There are very few countries that are "non-aligned." Countries like China and Russia cannot buy US weapons. India and Pakistan are the only countries that have a choice. The remaining countries who are not allies are way to poor to buy anything.
We should consider the price with specs.
Here Tejas MK2 is at par with F16V (may be lacking in few areas), at a lower cost. The cost incurred, will be transferred from Indian Airforce to HAL and not to a different country (except the cost of engine and seat ejection system) if MK2 is purchased
I think it would have been more economical to manufacture F-16 in India with a production line transfer.
@@ppen8359 America won't do tot
@@shadow_edits03 No one does real tot.
@@ppen8359 that's the reason why we need mark 2 so that we get the tech along with the jet
@@shadow_edits03 India is delusional to think that anyone will give it technology. People may give you outdated or inefficient technology, but literally no one will give you the state of the art technology. Even that 1960s old jet technology will not be given to India.
The latest F16 version, F16V, is definitely ahead of Tejas mk2. But older versions of F16s such as block 50s will not be able to match Tejas mk2's AESA and sensor fusion.
The specs don't warrant your conclusion. But F16 has a long and overall successful combat hstory; whereas Tejas is yet to be combat proven. On the other hand, F16 was successful in yesterday's wars; tomorrow's wars with electronic warfare, drone technology, AI etc. are going to be something different where theoretically, Tejas being of later vintage should do better. An entirley separate aspect is India's choice, where conditions of use, upgrades and weapons to be exclusively of US approved make and possible future sanctions make the F15 a problematic choice.
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What else can we expect from a jet manufacturer who has 45 years of edge over HAL's Tejas? Isn't that obvious that this will happen?
@@physicsonline8853 you missed just one point : india is buying/using tejas to fight two professional air forces of china and pakistan....not to bomb some defenseless countries unlike what USA did.
F16 never got a good opponent....also American datas should not be trusted blindly...didnt they claim big things about their MIM patriot? We all know what happened to it in actual war.
First of all it is useless to talk on tejas mk2 its a failure wo Hindustan aeronautical complex
MK2 is yet to get in Air, so pls do not compare a would be aircraft with a battle tested aircraft.
The only variant that has been given the term as the Viper is the Lockheed Martin F-16V, Block 70/72 variants the latest among its type as the 4.5 Generation Multi Role Fighter, while the old variants such as the F-16A/B's and the F-16C/D's are still use the term as the "Fighting Falcon" although the old variants would become Viper, when it could possibly modify or upgrade the said units into the Block 70 Viper configuration.
CONGRATULATIONS!!! for posting the most SHORT SIGHTED video on RUclips, by comparing a battle proven, time tested aircraft and an aircraft that is still on paper. BRAVO
f 16 is combat proven and reliable aircraft, no doubt it is superior to tejas at some extent but tejas is also very capable.
Every new tech lacks experience bro.. Cant judge aircraft's on the basis of experience.. It's necessary but that's not a factor that's determines which Fighter is actually better..
It is just used to convince people that its reliable... That's all..
@@darthvader6443 (I love your profile pic)
Combat experience is very much the most influential point to consider.
@@napobg6842 It is.. But combat experience for newly invented tech is little bit difficult because we live in a peace full world..our intention is to solve everything through diplomacy.. So real combat experience is hard to aquire for newly invented tech...
That doesn't mean the tech is bad.. Thats all 😊
@@darthvader6443 There is nothing really new in the Tejas. It is really using old and matured tech.
tejas waste samosa🤣🤣🤣🤣
Technology advancement (gap) differences between the two makers (GD & HAL) is around 40 yrs.
GD no longer manufactures F-16, Lockheed Martin now manufactures it. GD focused more on tanks, drones and engines as time went on.
That f16 is shot down by a mig 21 2.5 gen aircraft......
Not this tajes butt first tajes come in prade 10years on stracher hahaha.. Thali bajaooo carona bhgaoo wh modi g wh
@@usmannaeem5283 nashe me ho kya?😂😂
Nice joke. As an Indian I'm not stupid like you. F16 shot down by mig 21😂😂😂😂😂 atleast use your common sense.
@@rryzzzi2026 oohoo m na bss guess kia tha wo tajes baboo 30years sa Jo ni bana si Wala to socha yh kh dta hn ap ki jalay hi to si Thali bajaooo carona bhgaoo wh modi g wh
@@usmannaeem5283 Tum bhikhmango ne aaj tak ek bike ka engine banaya hai kya.. puncture putra
When a Mig21 capable of shooting F16 it is no match against LCA 2 armed with Metiare and Astra 1 2 and 3 India is very close to U S in Military technology
Emotions mein itna v mat baho🤣
do u know about the planes they built in area 51 in 1960s and 1970s. we cant make such planes even today
That was fake news since the engine pattern is wrong.
Indians are funny sometimes 🤣🤣🤣👍
India close to US military tech ? WUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
MiG 21 shot down a F-16? WUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
How come hard points on the F-16 is less than that on Tejas Mk2 despite F-16 being a bigger jet and having a more powerful power plant.
Bcs it got small wings...
bro check f 16 c latest one its still is potent dogfighter with super cockpit design now new one can manage sustainable turn 60 % of sukhoi with vectering thrust we are no where as near as f16 of today update but we are in term of avoincs at par with 1990s only as of now we need more private desi companies like tata and mahindra or any small startupwith big data and design and colabrate with tata and hal then we will have some one like elon without private brilliance away from security of government employee mindset
@@yeh2011 We need better collaboration between private sector, public sector R&D and Engineering Universities like IITs and IISc. The Universities can play a very key role if they can be involved by the private sector for research.
@@sadynasty Yes, true. Delta wings do provide more room for hardpoints. I think we need to build a fighter like the F15 Strike Eagle for Air Superiority and Air to Ground missions to complement AMCA. Hope after TEDBF and ORCA we will work on something like an F15 for much higher payloads and good air to air combat capability.
@@yeh2011 I never liked the F16 fighter, it's just the air intake design under the belly seems weird. F-15EX Eagle 2 however, that one is a sexy fighter.
I think its not wise to compare two fighters you know Tejas is still on the paper. Not even one prototype being built. Its all imaginary yet. Lets see when the first proptype is rolled out. Even on the paper f 16 stiil beats the charts. Over 120 KN power what the f 16 has, I think India will have to do a serious work.
Get your facts right Sir. It is supposed to roll out in a few days. First flight in 23.
@@desibigfoot3874 If it's so then it's a happy news
Hope Tejas Mark 2 is developed very fast.
Sooner the better
Tejas is a dream plane only found in dreams....
40 tejas have already been delivered. We at least made something. Your country cant even manufacture a motorcycle and you come here to comment. Now STFU and go to school instead of Madrasas.
Says the guy whose country can’t even afford tea
@@nid-jk2vx I know you people like such statements made by your agents but our leader is Imran Khan and we believe and follow him only.
@@irfankhan-bk4up dude we don’t care about your leader or country. You’re the one trash talking about India when your country is begging IMF and China for everything.
@@irfankhan-bk4up Ab tumhari democracy hi khtm hai to kya kare.. Tum dusro se jaloge hi.. Go n search about Tejas.. tum log India se apna comparison krte bhi kis muh se ho😂Hum log aircraft manufacture krrhe hai or sell bhi krrhe hai.. Tumne to banane tk ki sochi bhi nhi hogi..
Tejas mk 2 will be far better than gay because f16 is now old tech and will not stand against Tejas mk2 in terms of speed,stealth,weopens,manuvar
Mig 21 bison is coming F16 finished 😂😂.And Tejas is coming with brahmos missile so that F35 finished 😂😂😂
Tejas win .❤❤❤❤
Aapne puri kosis ki F16 ko behtar dikhaya jay😃
Even if tejas is half decent as F16, the very fact that it's indigenous, gives a lot of relief to India. Forget about what it can do in the sky, what it has already achieved on negotiation table is in itself amazing. When you have a homegrown option, there's one less leverage point that US can blackmail India with. One less weak link, one less thing to worry. If US says "you'll need a lot more tejas to have same effectiveness as one fleet of f16" we can simply say... So?
F16 1st flight was in 1974. Tejas mk 2 first flight hasn't even happened yet. If a modern variant of the F16 is better than a yet to be produced plane then you should go back to the drawing board and make a better plane.
Okay chinese
the f 16 kept getting upgrades over time though. like mig 21 which is now as powerful as a 4th gen fighter even though it is a 3rd gen fighter. all because of the upgrades. the defence sector doesn't work with "civilian" ideas
@@bigbrawler7078 if the foundation is good, the plane can last as you upgrade the equipment. However the Tejas needed an upgrade as soon as it was built. And a further update , mk2, to allow it to complete with todays plane. Note today not future as it is too bog standard.
@@bigbrawler7078 you mean the flying coffin ? India's pride and joy ? It killed another couple of Indian pilots.
@@lesliecheung1478 you came back over here just to reply to this? Lmao. Actually, I'll say it's not the pride and joy but rather a desperate need. The previous governments were so fucking corrupt that all they did was do money laundering and never give shit to defence sectors. The current government is the first one to actually buy modern weapons that can keep up with times. So yeah we had to keep them around to make sure we had enough squadrons. But i do admit that yes we lacked weapons and that's why mig 21s stayed around. It's a matter of shame and not pride to India. And that is why they are developed Tejas, bought rafale, developing amca and Tejas mk2.. there are plans to buy super hornet too along with deals to make or buy more 5th gen+ fighter air crafts. You're not wrong and i won't put on a fake toxic patriotic stand. I know my country has flaws and i also know that is trying to get over them. Sending peace and love.
Tejas mk-2 is not yet made but f-16 had made for 43 yrs in service, So how can be compared ? Is this a criteria for comparisons ? Tejas mk-2 is not manufactured and achieved any thing for success or failure also takeoff yet, how did you compared ? There may be default and weakness in Tejas mk-2 but without test or examination, how did you proved it as cent 100% configured ?
Thank you.
Tejas made of 60 % composite material and being smaller has smaller RCS and MK2 will be more powerful as well
Composite materials acts in no way in reducing rcs. Radiation bounce back from any flat solid material regardless its metal or composite only geometry and ram coatings aids in stealth
The F-16 has a better radar and technology. India is not on the level of matching US technology, even China isn’t there yet and China is decades ahead of India
@@tylerclayton6081 forgot india itself shot f 16 by it's weakest mig 21.
@@emperiumlegacy900 but the newer F-16 is getting radar of F-35, stronger engine and upgraded EW suite. And it was never confirmed that it was an F-16 that was shot down.
What considered fighter jet is the best??how many country buy it.
No comparison... One can only hope pilot training can make a difference... and the IAF do upgrade and maintain the aircraft better.
Uhh my country Philippines buy saab gripen instead of tejas this is too op 🔥💯
why want to compare tejas mark 2 which is not even have a prototype with F16 which is in operation for the last 40 years..?
Now it's operating with Indian Air force
According to the video the fuel capacity of the Tejas mk2 is more and it lighter but f16 has a far longer range. Is there some difference in other parameters?
Yeah...May be, because of speed and service ceiling height
Drag.
@Hunter Sargent ok. Hope data is taken under same conditions of load for both.
F16 vs MK2 - heavier , less fuel storage and yet more range and more weapon carrying capacity with better engine . I think Tejas MK2 long way to go n sure u will be the best some day n you shall be “MADE in INDIA” Jai hind !
How many engine of F414 are received by HAL till date? Is Bramhos & Uttam-2 integration completed for Tejas Mk2. Please make an updated video on this
I liked the thing abt tejas that even if anything happened to pilot during the mission then people can still operate it from the ground just like drones😉🙌
operate it from the ground?
@@gaswhole if pilot gets uncouncious, then Tejas will send a message to command center and from there they can make a safe landing of aircraft and save the pilot too.
@@emperiumlegacy900 they must be using ancient vimana technology. The US might try to steal it!
LCA Tejas mk2 is on paper lets rollout on runway .
what about vs J10
@Cool Sparkz AND still you haven`t won any war.
What a shame
Comparing a half a century’s old tech. Still F16 shines.
Only the frame of the f16 is that old, the insides are definitely not that old
Considering our requirement in northern front for higher flying level in Himalayan range, taking over of operational control by ground crew , Tejas Mk-II far superior than F-16.
What requirements ? Like ?
@@prakat1082 Heigh altitude fighting capability because we have Himalayas. Which as you know the are heigh. Ignore spelling
All aircrafts can operate at high altitude, that's what they do, operate at high altitude. You are conflating Helicopters with aircrafts.
@@anonkni8I think he means the delta wing of the Tejas having better manoeuvrability in higher altitude due to it having a larger surface area. With the northern borders of India being the Himalayas, a delta wing design would be beneficial.
Very good❤❤👍
We need to develop a our own powerful engines.
I think the pilot skills matter more because 4 f16 jets were shot down by Indian wing commander Abhinandan in kargil war using a old mig-21
To all those who say that Tejas Mk2 is yet to fly: Please understand that in a way, Tejas Mk2 has already been flying for over two decades, and has already been 60-65% tested. This is because it is an improved version of Tejas Mk1, which has been exhaustively tested, and whose behaviour is now well-established. The aerodynamics, stability, performance, and capability of the Mk2 in terms of performing various missions it will be used for, will not be very different from that of Mk1 - only slightly better.
For India, it is going to be a god-send, and unquestionably far superior to a F16 Block 70/72 designed several decades ago, and given several makeovers to make it appear modern!
Please ! there is no comparison between A Plane paper and another mostly used for decades !! Better please compare contemporary ones!!
Why not compare the mythical MK2 with the Spitfire or maybe the Sopwith Camel!?!
The F16 is a design from 1970 and the yet to be born Tejas MK2 may fly in 2025.
That's 55 years apart!
There was only a 40 year difference between the Spitfire and the F16.
We atleast made an attempt. Makes a lot of difference in designing and manufacturing a jet rather than just stealing technologies and assembling them. Madrasa educated pigs like you cant even dream of making a motorcycle from scratch let alone jet.
ṭejas mark 2 first flight will happen next year. And build yourself a fighter jet first don`t advice any country.
@@thenoobdashow7428 I wasn't advising any country. I was mocking a so-called defense channel for comparing a fightee that debuted in 1975 to one that is scheduled to fly in 2025.
BTW, HAL announced in 2021 that Tejas MK2 fprototupe will be ready by June 2022, then unofficially it was August 2022, now it is sometime in 2023 according to you. If HAL cant deliver on projects with 1 year timelines, it is has no real capacity to manage projects.
lets compare Tejas with Pakistan made jets, oh shoot.
@@esparian4775 just FYI, Tejas MK2 will not enter service until 2030, 60 years after F16. So the Tejas should be compared with Wright Brothers flyer.
Did the Tejas take some design from the experimental F-16 XL?
Its a mixture of Saab Gripen and Mirage 2000
very first of all we all can see tejas mk 2 would have combat range of 2500 km which is good enough for iaf, where as f16 had 4500 km range. and one more thing is that situation and needs of usaf are different then indian. even usaf is also backed by good enough budget, where as not only iaf even all three branches of indian armed forces are still lacking in good budget. coz usa's economic conditions are stable and capable enough where as indian economy is still growing so iaf is ballencing thing with low budget which is very good. nd second thing is that usa had already well developed and experienced technology and self reliable materials to built world class fighter aircraft. where as now we had achieved the technology but still we are depending on foreign markets to collect items and then use it on our technology. so in my views no doubt in technological demostration and qualities tejas mk2 is sounding more advance then f16 but we need to remember one thing f16 is combat proven aircraft with more then 20 years of experience nd now lockhead martin is also apply technologies developed for f35 in f16 in new updates as well.which could more lethal then current updates. where as tejas mk2 is still underdevelopment and not flied yet. but we had trust on our industries. and hoping best for tejas mk2 but the fact is that still tejas mk2 should have to prove alot of thing before get compared with combat proved nd reliable f16. i hope things are clear above i said.
Please tell me in which war USA used F16s? As I understand it is US Navy who used their carrier based fighters for all wars along with NATO aircrafts. Can you explain me please?
F16 range is fake because low fuel storage and the capability of engine capacity is not suitable measures. High weight carrying also reduce the range. They is no flight for ranging 4000 kms. This is not true
@@moloychakraborty9459 You understand wrong, F16s were present in Iraq
@@moloychakraborty9459 F-16 is proven not only by US but other Air Forces, Turkey is desperate to upgrade it's F-16 and was very effective in Syria.
Is MK2 ready for production, HAL is known for its speedy delivery. How many squadrons will Mk2 be induced by 2026.Egarly waiting for updated video on this as Tejas MK2 ought to be ready by 2023
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I think we should not compare the 2 jets Tejas mk2 is too young to capture the market , while F16 is well set in the world market ,but anyways it's the general tendency to compare, overall a good video, thank you
F-16 is well set in the world market, because it was designed to easily incorporate future technologies, the reason F-16 Block 70/72 has feature of F-22 and F-35. Unless Tejas is built in such a way it won't be able to catch world market.
It's a great feet already for Tejas MK2 to be compared to something as lethal as "viper", while Tejas MK2 might fare slightly less than the latest F16, however it would still be a lethal machine better than Mirage 2000s that India has and can easily be a staple as far as single engine fighter aircraft fleet of IAF. We can't really boast of better fighter aircraft technology unless we would make our own jet engines. While ours is no less of an achievement but we cannot ridicule the world leader in F16 as far as single engine fighter aircraft is concerned.
Tejas mk1 beats Mirage2000
Tejas mk1A beats or atleast matches Su-30MKI and easily beats F-16C/D variants that Pakistan operates.
Tejas mk2 will have to beat the latest F-16. There's no option.
@@rohitb5834 F-16 Viper is different than F-16 C/D, Viper has tech of 5th gen planes installed on it and better sensors, it's literally a 4.5 gen now.
@@niweshlekhak9646 and thats why i compared it with Tejas mk2.
Mirage 2k is sexy
I want Tejas MK2 production to be expedited as far as practicable, with simultaneous developement of of our indigenous ejection seat and more powerfull own engines( 110 KN).
I didn't get how f15 gets range of 4500 almost double.. may be they added mid air refueling
Right, 4500 km not possible with 125 kilo Newtown engine
Tejas>>>>>>>>>>>>> F16
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Tejas is more powerful and has no crash record❤❤
Small radar cross section, more speed , more hard points means more stealthy and can attack better.... Plus its cheaper
What jet are you talking about
Neither of these aircraft are even remotely stealthy.
how old is the Falcon design?
An aircraft is considered primarily superior on its speed & altitude with pay load capacity. In 1st two parameters Tejas is far superior then F16 and hardly difference in the 3rd. Finally cost makes far more attractive Tejas then F16
You mean speed which is exactly the same, altitude which is exactly the same and capacity that favors the F-16 oh and range which again favors the F-16, oh and radar and electronics which again favors the F-16. The price is more or less the same as well. The given figures are not accurate in the video
India: What can we compare our new, not even flying yet, fighter to so it looks good?
How about the F16 which has been around since the late 70's?
Is there anything newer? That's pretty old.
Not if you want the Tejas to look good.
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Tejas is better than F16.
Not at all
That is scary though
I still don't understand the fact that we are comparing a legendary fighter like F-16 which is evolving till the date with a fighter who's prototype is still incomplete. Radar, weapons we talk about is great on paper but isn't it premature to make comparisons? The Mk2 might even become the best in its class but unless it sees the light boasting about it is a waste of time
Video's made to attract Desi views. You think anyone outside India really cares about our indigenous products? Our quality isn't there yet, unfortunately.
@@krodh9946 I don't think so. Tejas MK1A stands out amongst its competitors like JF-17, Layoning L-15 of China, FA-50 of KAI and other trainers. The latest Boeing- T7 which is the latest trainer in the list has very poor radar and less composites in air frame hence it's cheaper price of 19 million. So on the market Tejas is the best fighter trainer available.
My problem with this video is the propoganda. We used to Jf-17 for the same and now we are doing the same.
Your Videos are very informative.
The IAF did choose Tejas jet but the service Editor General criticised the design for failing to meet 53 criteria, including failing in its radar-and-missiles warning systems, limited internal fuel, underpowered engine relative airframe weight, and lack of electronic warfare support.
😂😅😂 IAF has ordered 83 units of tejas mk 1 A... And currently operates 32 tejas mk 1... No Western propaganda will work with India...
@@AbhishekKumar-cd2tm Corrupt politicians dictate the purchase actually against the wisdom of the professional people of the IAF.
@@AbhishekKumar-cd2tm French Rafale jets project is given to the incompetent HAL, it's a disaster to India's aspiration to be a top notch producer of military aircraft like Turkey, Indonesia, China, Pakistan and Israel.
@@luakabsalam1816 Keep living in la la land Fantasy... Tejas mk 2 1st prototype will roll out next month.. And 5 th gen AMCA prototype will roll out in 2024,along with TEDBF 2025,IMRH2025,...thanks to incompetent HAL... 😅😂😅 Sorry bro u middle East jihadis 🐷🐖🐷 can't keep up with india.. Go do jihad some where else
@@AbhishekKumar-cd2tm 22 hours ago (now 1720 hrs, 13 October 2022 Singapore time), a MiG-29K of the Indian Navy has crashed into the Indian Ocean off Goa Coast due to technical malfunction. Pilot ejected safely.
Made in India❤🇮🇳 well Tejas👍
Tejas MK2 will definitely win over F-16 due to latest design and ability of brave Indian engineers
Nope. I rather combine F/A-18's canted tail design with the F-16.
Not true
@Cool Sparkz It's complicated. Indian generals are in constant internal politic and sabotage the plane so that they crashed often.
However, according to latest news, all Indians now agreed to make India as real superpower and cooperate
So, this is our brave plan for our Tejas
2022 to take down J-20
2023 to take down J-35
2024 to take down SU-57
2025 to take down F-35
2026 to take down F-22
2027 to take down FXA (US 6th generation)
2027 to take down Tempest (UK 6th generation)
It is like comparing Audi with Suzuki 800
India will be an ultra superpower if the nation were never colonized by others. Its people have a great potential in all the field. Smart and intelligent enough to be a superpower in this planet.
Tejas MKII engine should have 140KN power.
America will not give that to India to keep the edge of F-16 over Tejas.
Tejas mk2 is better then F 16
No it's not
@@napobg6842it is watch the video beta
@@John_wick604 Beta? Gamma? What's that about?
It is not better than F-16! The most modern F-16 Block 70/72 has more powerful engine, vaastly superior radar and it is faster. It is just a superior jet
I'm surprised the Tejas has such low payload (by weight) when its wingplan has such a big advantage in surface area which should translate to lift.
That said, despite a number of features like speed, range and attitude that make the Tejas better than the older design F-16, I'd prefer the Falcon by a long shot for its track record of reliability to accomplish the mission with whatever munitions load is best suited.
Nothing was mentioned in fact on the Tejas estimated cost per flight hour, but I'm going to guess the F-16 is probably one of the cheapest planes to fly that exists due to how long systems have been worked out and optimized through experience and being a single engine fighter.
Maybe the Tejas can make that altitude feature work in the Himalaysa but if the F-16 isn't bothered by high altitude missions, maybe the Tejas doesn't have an edge here, too.
At a given engine thrust, a larger wing area degrades acceleration i.e. energy recovery after a hard instantaneous turn.
F-16 is designed for vortex lift generation at a slight angle of attack with low drag. F-16XL's larger wing has higher drag at an angle of attack and degraded acceleration.
Fighter jets are designed around the engine's thrust target.
the mk 2 will be superior to the blk 52 and will be closer to performance of f16 blk 60/70 and gripen E. Although american a2g solutions will be superior
@@karanvarma4843 Tejas Mk2 still has a 44 m2 wing area with just a 98 kN (22,000 lbf) engine with a future 110 kN (24,000 lbf) engine upgrade.
F-16C Block 50 has 29,500 lbf (131 kN) GE engine.
F-16C Block 52 has 29,560 lbf (131.5 kN) PW engine.
F-16E Block 60 has 32,500 lbf (145 kN) GE engine.
For a sustained turn rate, Gripen C was beaten by SU-27SK despite Gripen's low wing loading. The wing itself has lift drag factors. For the given wing size, Gripen C is underpowered. Gripen C's lower RCS is an advantage over SU-27SK.
A slight angle of attack with high drag due to a larger wing will gimp vortex lift generation. For 4th gen designs, there are many factors in aircraft design, not just basic wing loading i.e. it's easy to attach a large wing e.g. F-16XL, F-35C.
Tejas was made as an interceptor.
The role of tejas is of an interceptor not air superiority fighter like F16. They are made for completely different roles.
For missile carrying India's Tejas is far better, In this section F-16 is a kid.
Tejas is the best in the cosmos. Even UFOs also cannot match it.😂
Ladaka tayara jhatu fighter 17 is better
It use ruhani taqt to fly
Still can't beat intergalactic Ultra Max pro junk fighter 17
@@arthurmorganxo That's ridiculous. The tejas is the best in the cosmos. Period.
@@neolan2565 Well Junk fighter 17 already defeated all fighter jets in Multiverse.
@@arthurmorganxoCan't beat the tejas, of course.
Thejas is jest born baby but incredble performed
F 16 is an out dated jet while the tejas is a new generation fighter jet. comparing those jet performance together is like comparing a maruti car 800 with a swift.
F-16 latest is still more advanced than Tejas MK2. If America uses a plane then it is never outdated.
They are exactly the same generation and they serve similar role. That being less expensive and lower maintenance in high volume production. Block 70 is new and has beyond superior avionics than Tejas
F16 is a battle hardned jet. Whereas Tejas is a newcomer. We have a lot to catch up. But, we are making moves towards that. We may face difficulties in the process but it is better to try and fail than fail to try.
Its not about plane its all about pilot ....Never mess with INDIAN ARMY 💥💥💥
Lololol. Indian army can't even compete with China. Quit being a clown
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Tejas MK2 weight is less tha F16. Tejas fuel capacity is more than F16. How is the range less than F16?
Mig 21 is enough to down f 16
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@Jetline Marvel
Hello, I have a question
Tejas Mk2 have fuel capacity of 3400 kgs with 98 KN of engine with empty wt 7850 kgs
F16 have fuel capacity of 3200 kgs with 127 KN of engine with empty wt 8600 kgs and its (F16) range is 4220 kms where Tejas Mk2 has range of 2500 kms (despite of having low capacity engine and high fuel capacity)
Please can you explain why is the huge difference in range?
I am from Pakistan and impressed by the INDIAN TEJAS very fast and good manuverable... every machine has a purpose that's why it's designed for it... JF17 also made not for only to compete TEJAS could serve many purpose..."its not machine that fight it's the person behind it who fight"... but after all if you compare the both IAF and PAF history... PAF proved to be the best in descipline, excellence and war air superiority ... not because of the SIZE but quality of FIGHTER PILOTS the brains behind the machines...
stop comparing an imaginary fighter jet with a battle tested real fighter jet😤
Takes time for tejas to compete with other aircrafts.. hope mark 2 will not be delayed!!
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@AJAY RANA you can't just add a bigger engine! the airframe and all other components must be able to mesh with it and handle it. When you change an engine, you might have to redesign the airframe... that will make it a different aircraft. it is like trying to put a truck engine into a car to make it more powerful... If MK-2 was designed to handle a 125KN engine, then it is a possibility.