I am 32 with Adult ADHD and heres a detailed solution perspective that helped me to fix the problems listed in this video. Executive function issues we have mean we have a library of books (thoughts and ideas) but don't have the bookshelves and library Floorplan (the executive function structure) - sooooo we must realize our ADHD Minds just need to create bookshelves (mindmap structures to help us prioritize and structure our perspectives and responsibilities in a clear manner) - our minds appreciate all information when typical minds discriminate based on perceived importance. Let's use our minds to connect the dots that millions will never connect because they don't see the gold in the perceived garbage in life like us
Dude, I have no idea what you're talking about, and you have no idea what you're talking about. You're literally making things up, for example, "our minds appreciate all information when typical minds discriminate based on perceived importance". What does that even mean? No we don't (ADHD people) appreciate all information, we actually appreciate long term information (math, science, etc.) less than normal people, due to reduced dopamine in the brain. Also, everybody values information based on what is important to them, including people with ADHD. What is more important info to you, the hospital letting you know of a family members death, or tommy has 3 dollars?
Thankyou so much for this comment. It means a lot to me that there are people who know a lot of what I have experienced in life without ever meeting me. Makes me feel less alone and broken in this silly world with its silly structures. 🤗
This brings new context for me. I grew up with a mom that made a big deal of her lack of self control. When I was little, I was hyper controlled, but over time I think I grew into identifying with her rather than my own abilities.
I can't get enough of this. I read a book with a similar topic, and I couldn't get enough of it. "Unlocking the Brain's Full Potential" by Alexander Sterling
This is all covered In the book "thinking, fast and slow" by Daniel kahneman . I believe the term executive function is actually what Daniel refers to as System 2. He spoke about similar experiments too.
That's interesting! I read that book and I have pretty poor EF I don't feel like I am more living in system 1 than system 2, it's more like system 2 cuts out at random times! It doesn't mean I have better access or understanding of my system 1. System 2 just splutters instead of running smoothly. I think they are separate but related concepts
I know a kid, around 18 or 19 years old, who works with an Executive Function Coach. Apparently, he has some issues with his executive function, and his coach is with an organization that works with people with these issues. I felt bad for the kid because even with the help of his coach, he was unable to pass a college course he enrolled in. He didn't show up to class 50% of the time and rarely did his homework. He's a bright kid, too.
@@AUnicorn666 Likely, as Executive Function Disorder (or executive dysfunction) isn't classified as a disability in itself, but stems from other disabilities, at least as my research reveals.
@@aaronrosenberg6633 that's very interesting. What does your research reveal about the disabilities beneath the symptoms? Do they have a name yet and where are these problem areas located in the brain?
@@aaronrosenberg6633 I have both and it’s a double whammy some of the worst symptoms are executive functioning disorders and emotional regulation issues
This talk is all over the place. What's the take away? Our environment and peer group influences our thinking and behaviour? Wow, what a revolutionary insight.
If you studied Neuroscience you would understand why this is relevant and important. Just because you don't understand a topic doesn't mean it's not important or has no take away. Some students spend semesters in college researching executive function, it's really cool, look into it more (especially look into people who has lesions to Executive function)
@@WARH3AD17 you are doing the same mistake that she did, which is never getting to the point! Why exactly it’s interesting, you could just write it rather than yapping
This is helpful info, but I would have liked to learn more about how to improve it. Do these techniques work for those who have executive dysfunction from ADHD, depression, or schizophrenia?
I wonder how these types of tests could help those who suffer from post traumatic stress disorder. They may seem simple to those who don't have it but for those who do and struggle with the function of multitasking, it can be very difficult.
I’ve spent a lot of time wondering if my adult *adhd was just the complex PTSD -diagnosis I finally got in my 40s - all along … and which fits like a glove in a way that my *adhd never quite did 😒
@@nichole8609 Fully agree - and the issue I have with all those former misdiagnosis’s is they tend to be *sticky and they stay in your file forever. All of this was just cPTSD (all of it responded to cPTSD treatments and not to their own treatments) I now have in order of appearance: Generalized Anxiety Disorder, single incident PTSD in complete remission, adhd, major depression (initially in my file as family history due to my Mother losing her Dad at age 16 and being briefly hospitalized in the 1960s before she had me - somehow got switched from being her issue, to now being mine) I do have blunted affect so people assume I must be miserable or feel depressed. Nope, just chronically tired from hyper vigilance or half dissociated from the dysregulation lol. Oh and a 20 year history of irritable bowel syndrome was actually 5 lbs of uterine fibroids slowly filling my abdomen, obstructing my intestines. My “IBS” was instantly cured by hysterectomy - yet remains in my file as my history, passed on to each new specialist. Never removed when corrected. No one apologizes for the damage caused by wrong diagnosis’s (or the wrong medication experiments) and noone ever revokes them.
@@KarmasAbutch thank you for your comment. It really opened my eyes. I believe I've had a very similar experience to yours. I hope you are healing quicker now with this realization.
I'm horrible at this kind of task switching and extremely absent-minded, forgetting all my meetings and such, all those things. Being distracted all the time, not remembering any facts like people's names and such. All of it. But I have extremely strong willpower. I'm like one of those people who could saw off their own leg if it got stuck under something in a forest for several days. (this didn't happen) I can delay gratification indefinitely if I decided it so. I can push myself to the levels of stress where I get physically sick. I can push myself to do things that give me emotional scarring without even noticing that I'm pushing myself too hard (These things have been happening since my childhood) So I am quite doubtful that executive function is responsible for both aspects. Otherwise, how could I be at such opposite extremes in these things?
Desimere since I see some similarities between us, I'm just asking out of curiosity - do you also find it difficult to focus on anything that's happening in front of you and on things you need to be paying attention to? (Could be work/study, or even watching a movie)..
Desimere God, I'm very much trapped in the same predicament. The mind is constantly thinking and thinking about everything under the sun but what's in front of the eyes. No social media, not much of a screen time problem, and yet focussing is so goddamned hard. Struggled in college, now struggling at work. Like you I could also deliberately do things that would harm me physically, provided there's a strong reason to do it. I'm so tired of thinking. I wish I didn't think this much all the time and could focus on other things instead. Only things I can do well are writing and sculpture. Just saying, if you're also tired of your mind, I know and feel your pain.
@@mandeepsingh-px3xq i suspect it being ADHD (add version) but i don't have enough money to go see a doctor about it. Perhaps you can though. And the things you can focus on are the things you are most interested in (and even obsessed with)?
@@mandeepsingh-px3xq and then the strong willpower would be like a coping mechanism because of not getting diagnosed as a child. But still, we have entirely different skill levels in these two aspects so they can't both be directly executive function + environment based.
The little girl at 4:27 received v. good verbal instructions, but during execution she was mislead - already in process when she received the card, should have been reminded & second card handed over the wrong box with no pause
I think the little girl did get confused because of poor instruction. I agree with you on that point, but I think the context of a larger focus and how the researcher wanted to demonstrate how some events or circumstances or problems occur so fast that a person with EFD does not have time to process it. I have problems EFD because I get fixated on doing things right rather than doing them well. Thus, I listen too much to what I am told what to do instead of thinking bigger picture. Otherwise, the speaker's ideas come across as thoughtful.
There's a breakdown when those "symbols of waiting" in society can be faked: neck deep in car/home loans and credit, doctored social media photos, liposuction, plastic surgery all to fake a brand/image to everyone. We see it it my city all the time and people open up in certain support groups (to keep it private) about their debt or relational problems because of the pressure to fabricate an image of high social status. I have 2 cars: a new car and a 2006 car that looks fair but it is fully paid off and runs great. I see a huge difference in how people behave around me when I drive the older one so the pressure by peers to fake it is there.
Are you trying? If so, that's your mistake. The degree to which you try to let go of something is representative of how tightly you are gripping it. Letting go is important and it seems that almost nobody knows how to do it. Almost every guru or teacher out there will coach you into fighting fire with fire, or into addiction transference or repression. You can't fight your own limbic system and your ego, including your sense of self has a primary function of making that system happy. The thing is, bad habits are things that make it happy yet they make your body and mind suffer. Don't fight your problems, accept yourself, find a quiet and comfortable place, close your eyes and explore the universe behind your eyes. You'll find that letting go is very simple and that the opportunity to do so will present itself naturally to you.
@@AllSquirrelsGoToHeaven As I read more and more of your comment, magic mushrooms is exactly what came to mind. This effect you describe is a staple in the healing process that mushrooms bring to people that have issues with control, anxiety and other mental ailments/stressors.
@@jkfd97 This is true but please be careful. One man's cure can be another's poison. They have helped me in the past, but I'd feel wrong just recommending them to people I don't know. Not enough is known to make the claim that psylocibin is good for everyone. The natural healing process requires nothing but you as you are.
Ok but what if your executive dysfunction is SO BAD that you haven't brushed your teeth in over a year, you only get out of bed in order to use the washroom and get food, and you've neglected things in your life so important that you've successfully isolated yourself from the rest of the world. . What if your executive dysfunction is SO BAD that you disassociate for long periods of time, simply blankly staring at a wall for 5-10 minutes. What if I told you that when I focus on something, 9 times out of 10 I forget to BREATH. I find myself holding my breath ALL the time. It's never gotten to the point where I've gotten dizzy or passed out, however the amount of times it happens is alarming. . It really scares me just how bad my executive dysfunction has gotten, to the point that it could soon cause me to become homeless. Something is clearly wrong with me, and I don't live somewhere where I'm capable of finding any doctors that can help me... . I feel kind of trapped in my own body at times, because when I relax it's almost as if though I become paralyzed until something forces me to start moving again, which usually comes in the form of hunger or needing to use the washroom. While I'm standing up because I need food or need to use the washroom I'm completely fine and can do other things for the most part, but only the things that catch my attention are the things that I end up focusing on or doing. . I don't know where I was going with this or what I'm expecting, but if anyone knows what could possibly be wrong with me, I'd like to know. I'm like 90% sure this issue has caused me to develop depression and anxiety issues since it's been going on for over 6 years now...
Sounds like ADHD to me. It's a very misunderstood disorder and can be a lot more like what you just described rather than all 'hyperactive'. Maybe check out r/adhd and see if u can relate to the posts there
Sounds like you need to find something on this earth you really enjoy & learn about it. The internet let us access tons of information. In order for you to imagine you must have the will power to tell yourself no matter what you will accomplish it…you already been homeless so you can’t go no lower until you’re purposely going to jail for shelter…if you’re homeless then you need to stay in shape at least…after get off social media outlets unless you’re bettering yourself…after all that go out & talk to people read meditate pray talk to yourself…people like us need consistency the most like everybody else…it’s 4:16am & im on youtube etc trying to find an answer & on other social media telling myself how I shouldn’t even be on this crap…you must go to sleep & wake up with “conquering” yourself…it all starts with you in your head you must want it…everyday is a new day what you do now counts towards your future…side note: i do believe upbringing plays a vital role for add/adhd just like how our eyes adjusts to the stuff we see the most growing up…if you wear glasses yes, the genetics partially makeup the reason, but i bet 75-85% the other reason is because we’re used to seeing things closer than we should…I doubt our ancestors needed glasses & i bet for the ones who did they didn’t last long 🤣 *my joke*
This is truly interesting, but it misses a big thing here. It doesn't invalidate the message completely but it really misses something big. Poor executive functions begins earlier than your friend group. Childhood. Growing up in a household where a parent suffers from: mental disorser/alcohol or drug abuse/general bad parenting w/ neglect. This will put the children on the path of feeling connectedness with the group with poor executive function at a truly early stage. And there you have it. I'd say it's 50% parenting/early years and 50% peer pressure (Sabine Doebel's example). On a similar note: They did tests on Vietnam military personel who abused substances. They wanted to see whom of these vets were still abusing and who weren't when they were back in the US again. The answer? Veterans were much less likely to no abuse drugs If they had a safe and stable childhood. Context is everything.
Taking a moment to gather your thoughts and not feel unduly pressured is good for EF. Feeling powerless, irrelevant and lacking helpful props for decision making is bad for EF.
Yes a thousand times Covid lockdowns f..d mine even more than normal for my Neurodiverse brain led me to to getting an ADHD Inattentive diagnosis at 40.
This is also how cultural norms work! (Referring to the group thing.) If everyone around is doing something, or is NOT doing something, most people naturally adjust their behavior to fit in better to match the crowd. It's also why we know humans are not solitary creatures, we are highly socialized and need the group.
There are exceptions to that idea in individuals, in other cultures , and in other mind types of the population. It is more complex than that all or nothing view. The theory does not stand.
I found zero useful about this as an adhd person. all she says is basically see what your peers are doing and develop strategies. like what strategies other than comparison exactly? This seemed very poorly executed to to me
@FaithLehane Sure. I agree. Just saying that "improving executive function" has more of an impact on people with ADHD than neurotypical brains. It's like doing a talk on how you found out how to restore sight, but not even mentioning the impact on blind people. I love her work. Just saying.
She's making a big mistake. She's not talking or explaining anything about executive function with the marshmallow test. It's actually an ability to tune out from that focus that will help those kids wait, as she herself describes. And it fits with what Gabor Maté's theory states, that it's exactly an early childhood need to tune out from difficult situations that will create problems with executive function/adhd
Conforming isn't for everyone. Adhd and depression effect executive function. Society makes our brains sick and unable to endure the punishments of not falling in line with everyone else. If your executive functioning is malfunctioning, you'll likely need medication to help you conform. Not all of us are lucky enough to like the people we must go to school and work with. Poverty doesn't do much but hinder the ability to think ahead. Stress is a thief of planning and motivation. Good luck changing the context of everyday life.
Alisha Wilson I sadly have to agree and disagree. You are right society makes our brains sick but I think it’s more about what society allows us to indulge in. If it’s socially ally ok to eat junk food and not work out, you will most likely need drugs, ohh and our sick society says drugs are ok too. Sickness cycle imo.
Humans are herd animals. We learn from each other and we grow with eachother. We need each other to function well. If this TED talk isn't evidence of that, I dunno what is.
Brigi Szabo it is! They’re so cute. I worked in a lab and actually got to run a study for my professor and it’s challenging when they’re really young though.
Wait. Wait. Wait. Executive function is your ability to think outside of habit and simplicity, and yet the best way of fostering it in people is to play on an inherent need for social conformity? Something which in the long run is known as one of the major reasons why people don't think for themselves? That is messed up.
You have to bear in mind this is a woman's perspective, and the study children are girls too. The female biology is innately drawn to safety which is acquired through large groups and social harmony. It would be very interesting to see the same study in the inverse, with a male researcher and young boys. Boys are are of course far more well-known to be rebellious and genuinely independent in their thought.
Um, is this a re-upload? I feel like I've watched this before... I also think that what "executive function" is wasn't explained very well or thoroughly enough...
What if my problem is that I'm completely incapable of making strategies for planning ? I'm permanently stuck in a loop of wanting to do things but unable to figure out how to, and I have literally zero supports to bounce ideas off or or plan with. I'm not dumb, I'm completely stuck. I have no peers because I'm a depressed shut in with no friends. How do I get context to change my frame of mind when my entire life has been this way? I've fallen through every societal safety net in place and continue to freefall...
I’m a job seeker with ASD and indivs acting as agents for prospective employers, Ari Arad, Alina Arad, Joyce Arad, Avi Arad, Isaac Perlmutter and Laura Perlmutter deny me equal access to test by using radionic/other electronic devices in communications to remove my executive functions including Impulse Control and Self-Care which I suffer a 30% deficit from childhood in a facility of the 12 Step Programs called The Creative Closet of A.A.
I'm captivated by the clarity and insight in this content. A book with comparable insights was pivotal in my journey. "Mindful Mastery: Living Intentionally in a Chaotic World" by Kyle Ash
No, OCD is a lack of it, you can't change from one activity to another. You're kind of stucked in one activity, because the priority of tasks does not change, but skip back again.
Executive function is the obedience function--it leads to success only so far. The greatest achievers in their fields tend to pursue what they love, without waiting, even impulsively.
So- a bit off topic- but I find it interesting that I come away identifying with the "green" group. When talking about the video, "green" is the example i automatically use. In my mind, just from the input from this video, "orange" is othered. Just. Like. That. That's how fast we form tribes and create the "other."
@@pissangelmindfreak Wrong, it only says what doesn't work. Did YOU even watch it? Oh.. and "how to improve it" does not exist in this video so yes, it's a click bait title.
I want to see that one kid who was raised vegan in the marshmallow test. “Most supermarket marshmallows have gelatin, i don’t eat gelatin. Got any kale?”
I feel like she missed the real point of her own experiments. It’s not that context matters. It’s that IDENTITY matters. That’s really what she was manipulating.
Interesting talk :)) its taking me a while to complete my drivers license too... I put it off for grad school but now that I completed my studies and will be working full-time next month, I should focus on continuing driving lessons in my free time and finally getting that license lol.
Don't forget that a study can only suggest effects that were not investigated. But yeah: young children are tribal. To the degree where they prefer kids which eat the same cereal. Not as much discrimination between skin color, though. Also it's probably much more in-group preference than out-group denegrigration.
Are you implying that telling neurodiverse people that you can't do this, because you've got A, B, or C, might actually make some of their symptoms even worse? 🤔
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Let me HYPERBOLE the matter, so people can grasp the concept: Let’s say someone uses force to make you clean-up your room: “I’LL PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE IF YOU DON’T PICK-UP YOUR ROOM”. Lets say perchance you executed the command to a T, at the end of the day, the value of cleanliness is predicated on the value, if you will, of fear but cleanliness had nothing to do with it. If the value of an execution of an effort versus a catharsis or release were put on a balance, I think the context of catharsis would take precedence over the execution of forced effort every time. Ergo, I don’t have to clean my room anymore because I’m free of that person that didn’t add value to my function!! 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
Executive function improves when you distance yourself from narcissists, family scapegoat abuse, and cults in general. You make better decisions when you're in parasympathetic mode. Like she says, context matters!
I waited about the half of the speech so she can get to the point, and then she sad something that everyone already knows. I think that they(scientists) barely know anything about executive functions just the obvious.
Some times business personels don't know how to address an issuses.Today , I was going to a Dollar tree store's locate at Florida Ave Tampa Florida, the store is so dirthy so I spoke and aked for a position some one says talk to the manager the manager's says know so I said why is this floor so dirthy she called the police one me.
"The vast majority of Argentine Jews are descended from immigrants who arrived from Europe. These ashkenazic Jews migrated from small towns or shtetels of Poland, Lithuania, Russia, Germany, Romania or Ukraine, leaving behind most of their Jewish relatives. After two or three generations, those Jewish families lost track of their relatives, having been saved from the war, emigrated to other countries like USA, England or Australia."
I am 32 with Adult ADHD and heres a detailed solution perspective that helped me to fix the problems listed in this video. Executive function issues we have mean we have a library of books (thoughts and ideas) but don't have the bookshelves and library Floorplan (the executive function structure) - sooooo we must realize our ADHD Minds just need to create bookshelves (mindmap structures to help us prioritize and structure our perspectives and responsibilities in a clear manner) - our minds appreciate all information when typical minds discriminate based on perceived importance. Let's use our minds to connect the dots that millions will never connect because they don't see the gold in the perceived garbage in life like us
Where did this concept come from? Is it your own concept? Any tips on how to build those book shelves
Do you mean like organizing everything a lot externally?
@@whatisahandle221 checking "Building a Second Brain" by Tiago Forte and second generation notetaking software like Notion/Obsidian might be helpful
Dude, I have no idea what you're talking about, and you have no idea what you're talking about. You're literally making things up, for example, "our minds appreciate all information when typical minds discriminate based on perceived importance". What does that even mean? No we don't (ADHD people) appreciate all information, we actually appreciate long term information (math, science, etc.) less than normal people, due to reduced dopamine in the brain. Also, everybody values information based on what is important to them, including people with ADHD. What is more important info to you, the hospital letting you know of a family members death, or tommy has 3 dollars?
Thankyou so much for this comment. It means a lot to me that there are people who know a lot of what I have experienced in life without ever meeting me. Makes me feel less alone and broken in this silly world with its silly structures. 🤗
This brings new context for me. I grew up with a mom that made a big deal of her lack of self control. When I was little, I was hyper controlled, but over time I think I grew into identifying with her rather than my own abilities.
I can't get enough of this. I read a book with a similar topic, and I couldn't get enough of it. "Unlocking the Brain's Full Potential" by Alexander Sterling
My brother in christ, that is exactly what executive dysfunction is...
I failed so hard at executive function, that I can't even finish the video without turning to other tabs.
I kinda feel you, watched it on 2x speed ...
@@I_am_Jek I watch all the videos 2x speed. Unless music video. Time is money why would I waste it when I can fast-forward it.
It’s not entirely your fault. This talk was dull.
same
@@I_am_Jek right she talks so slowww
Social psychology meeting cognitive psychology. Beautiful :)
We need to take a multidimensional multifaceted approach
It’s called social cognition
*_Know Thyself! Knowing which move to make comes with insight
and knowledge, and by learning the lessons that are accumulated along the way_*
This is all covered In the book "thinking, fast and slow" by Daniel kahneman . I believe the term executive function is actually what Daniel refers to as System 2. He spoke about similar experiments too.
Nice try, Daniel
lol @ author's name
That's interesting! I read that book and I have pretty poor EF
I don't feel like I am more living in system 1 than system 2, it's more like system 2 cuts out at random times! It doesn't mean I have better access or understanding of my system 1. System 2 just splutters instead of running smoothly. I think they are separate but related concepts
I know a kid, around 18 or 19 years old, who works with an Executive Function Coach. Apparently, he has some issues with his executive function, and his coach is with an organization that works with people with these issues. I felt bad for the kid because even with the help of his coach, he was unable to pass a college course he enrolled in. He didn't show up to class 50% of the time and rarely did his homework. He's a bright kid, too.
Likely had ADHD.
@@AUnicorn666 Likely, as Executive Function Disorder (or executive dysfunction) isn't classified as a disability in itself, but stems from other disabilities, at least as my research reveals.
@@aaronrosenberg6633 that's very interesting. What does your research reveal about the disabilities beneath the symptoms? Do they have a name yet and where are these problem areas located in the brain?
@@mshk5483 ADHD and autism are two which have been associated with executive function disorder.
@@aaronrosenberg6633 I have both and it’s a double whammy some of the worst symptoms are executive functioning disorders and emotional regulation issues
This talk is all over the place. What's the take away? Our environment and peer group influences our thinking and behaviour? Wow, what a revolutionary insight.
Summaries and reductions are rarely insightful...sometimes the smallest details that dont usually make the unenthused reduced version adds insight...
If you studied Neuroscience you would understand why this is relevant and important. Just because you don't understand a topic doesn't mean it's not important or has no take away. Some students spend semesters in college researching executive function, it's really cool, look into it more (especially look into people who has lesions to Executive function)
Just only give a way to optimize rather than actually improve it, which felt very manipulative
@@WARH3AD17 you are doing the same mistake that she did, which is never getting to the point! Why exactly it’s interesting, you could just write it rather than yapping
This is helpful info, but I would have liked to learn more about how to improve it. Do these techniques work for those who have executive dysfunction from ADHD, depression, or schizophrenia?
I wonder how these types of tests could help those who suffer from post traumatic stress disorder. They may seem simple to those who don't have it but for those who do and struggle with the function of multitasking, it can be very difficult.
I’ve spent a lot of time wondering if my adult *adhd was just the complex PTSD -diagnosis I finally got in my 40s - all along … and which fits like a glove in a way that my *adhd never quite did 😒
@@KarmasAbutch It is very common for people that have ptsd or complex ptsd to be missed diagnosed with other disorders like adhd or manic/bipolar.
@@nichole8609 Fully agree - and the issue I have with all those former misdiagnosis’s is they tend to be *sticky and they stay in your file forever. All of this was just cPTSD (all of it responded to cPTSD treatments and not to their own treatments)
I now have in order of appearance: Generalized Anxiety Disorder, single incident PTSD in complete remission, adhd, major depression (initially in my file as family history due to my Mother losing her Dad at age 16 and being briefly hospitalized in the 1960s before she had me - somehow got switched from being her issue, to now being mine)
I do have blunted affect so people assume I must be miserable or feel depressed. Nope, just chronically tired from hyper vigilance or half dissociated from the dysregulation lol.
Oh and a 20 year history of irritable bowel syndrome was actually 5 lbs of uterine fibroids slowly filling my abdomen, obstructing my intestines. My “IBS” was instantly cured by hysterectomy - yet remains in my file as my history, passed on to each new specialist. Never removed when corrected.
No one apologizes for the damage caused by wrong diagnosis’s (or the wrong medication experiments) and noone ever revokes them.
@@KarmasAbutch thank you for your comment. It really opened my eyes. I believe I've had a very similar experience to yours. I hope you are healing quicker now with this realization.
@@KarmasAbutch - Wow! (Sounds worse than trying to correct a mistake on your credit report!)
I'm horrible at this kind of task switching and extremely absent-minded, forgetting all my meetings and such, all those things. Being distracted all the time, not remembering any facts like people's names and such. All of it. But I have extremely strong willpower. I'm like one of those people who could saw off their own leg if it got stuck under something in a forest for several days. (this didn't happen) I can delay gratification indefinitely if I decided it so. I can push myself to the levels of stress where I get physically sick. I can push myself to do things that give me emotional scarring without even noticing that I'm pushing myself too hard (These things have been happening since my childhood) So I am quite doubtful that executive function is responsible for both aspects. Otherwise, how could I be at such opposite extremes in these things?
Desimere since I see some similarities between us, I'm just asking out of curiosity - do you also find it difficult to focus on anything that's happening in front of you and on things you need to be paying attention to? (Could be work/study, or even watching a movie)..
@@mandeepsingh-px3xq yes. I got distracted in the middle of reading your sentence and had to restart about 3 times :D this is what life's like.
Desimere God, I'm very much trapped in the same predicament. The mind is constantly thinking and thinking about everything under the sun but what's in front of the eyes. No social media, not much of a screen time problem, and yet focussing is so goddamned hard. Struggled in college, now struggling at work. Like you I could also deliberately do things that would harm me physically, provided there's a strong reason to do it. I'm so tired of thinking. I wish I didn't think this much all the time and could focus on other things instead. Only things I can do well are writing and sculpture. Just saying, if you're also tired of your mind, I know and feel your pain.
@@mandeepsingh-px3xq i suspect it being ADHD (add version) but i don't have enough money to go see a doctor about it. Perhaps you can though. And the things you can focus on are the things you are most interested in (and even obsessed with)?
@@mandeepsingh-px3xq and then the strong willpower would be like a coping mechanism because of not getting diagnosed as a child. But still, we have entirely different skill levels in these two aspects so they can't both be directly executive function + environment based.
The little girl at 4:27 received v. good verbal instructions, but during execution she was mislead - already in process when she received the card, should have been reminded & second card handed over the wrong box with no pause
@@sueanderson43 But that's what she did? She got the card between the two boxes.
I think the little girl did get confused because of poor instruction.
I agree with you on that point, but I think the context of a larger focus and how the researcher wanted to demonstrate how some events or circumstances or problems occur so fast that a person with EFD does not have time to process it.
I have problems EFD because I get fixated on doing things right rather than doing them well. Thus, I listen too much to what I am told what to do instead of thinking bigger picture. Otherwise, the speaker's ideas come across as thoughtful.
There's a breakdown when those "symbols of waiting" in society can be faked: neck deep in car/home loans and credit, doctored social media photos, liposuction, plastic surgery all to fake a brand/image to everyone. We see it it my city all the time and people open up in certain support groups (to keep it private) about their debt or relational problems because of the pressure to fabricate an image of high social status. I have 2 cars: a new car and a 2006 car that looks fair but it is fully paid off and runs great. I see a huge difference in how people behave around me when I drive the older one so the pressure by peers to fake it is there.
Ooo, good observation, interesting to hear someone notice and articulate that. I guess junior high never stops, a breakdown indeed.
This is one thing im having trouble with. Brraking bad habits to truly achieve my goals.
Are you trying? If so, that's your mistake. The degree to which you try to let go of something is representative of how tightly you are gripping it. Letting go is important and it seems that almost nobody knows how to do it. Almost every guru or teacher out there will coach you into fighting fire with fire, or into addiction transference or repression. You can't fight your own limbic system and your ego, including your sense of self has a primary function of making that system happy. The thing is, bad habits are things that make it happy yet they make your body and mind suffer. Don't fight your problems, accept yourself, find a quiet and comfortable place, close your eyes and explore the universe behind your eyes. You'll find that letting go is very simple and that the opportunity to do so will present itself naturally to you.
It’s hard to want to do it, but it’s easy when you actually want to. The catch is that no one can make you want to.
Perhaps the secret is to have a replacement habit. Or as she said, a context group of people who did it, and inspires u to break the bad habit.
@@AllSquirrelsGoToHeaven As I read more and more of your comment, magic mushrooms is exactly what came to mind. This effect you describe is a staple in the healing process that mushrooms bring to people that have issues with control, anxiety and other mental ailments/stressors.
@@jkfd97 This is true but please be careful. One man's cure can be another's poison. They have helped me in the past, but I'd feel wrong just recommending them to people I don't know. Not enough is known to make the claim that psylocibin is good for everyone. The natural healing process requires nothing but you as you are.
Ok but what if your executive dysfunction is SO BAD that you haven't brushed your teeth in over a year, you only get out of bed in order to use the washroom and get food, and you've neglected things in your life so important that you've successfully isolated yourself from the rest of the world.
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What if your executive dysfunction is SO BAD that you disassociate for long periods of time, simply blankly staring at a wall for 5-10 minutes. What if I told you that when I focus on something, 9 times out of 10 I forget to BREATH. I find myself holding my breath ALL the time. It's never gotten to the point where I've gotten dizzy or passed out, however the amount of times it happens is alarming.
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It really scares me just how bad my executive dysfunction has gotten, to the point that it could soon cause me to become homeless. Something is clearly wrong with me, and I don't live somewhere where I'm capable of finding any doctors that can help me...
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I feel kind of trapped in my own body at times, because when I relax it's almost as if though I become paralyzed until something forces me to start moving again, which usually comes in the form of hunger or needing to use the washroom. While I'm standing up because I need food or need to use the washroom I'm completely fine and can do other things for the most part, but only the things that catch my attention are the things that I end up focusing on or doing.
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I don't know where I was going with this or what I'm expecting, but if anyone knows what could possibly be wrong with me, I'd like to know. I'm like 90% sure this issue has caused me to develop depression and anxiety issues since it's been going on for over 6 years now...
Sounds like ADHD to me. It's a very misunderstood disorder and can be a lot more like what you just described rather than all 'hyperactive'. Maybe check out r/adhd and see if u can relate to the posts there
Bullet Journal Lists Everywhere Setting Timers I’m in the process of developing at the moment I have Aspergers and ADHD Inattentive
Sounds like you need to find something on this earth you really enjoy & learn about it. The internet let us access tons of information. In order for you to imagine you must have the will power to tell yourself no matter what you will accomplish it…you already been homeless so you can’t go no lower until you’re purposely going to jail for shelter…if you’re homeless then you need to stay in shape at least…after get off social media outlets unless you’re bettering yourself…after all that go out & talk to people read meditate pray talk to yourself…people like us need consistency the most like everybody else…it’s 4:16am & im on youtube etc trying to find an answer & on other social media telling myself how I shouldn’t even be on this crap…you must go to sleep & wake up with “conquering” yourself…it all starts with you in your head you must want it…everyday is a new day what you do now counts towards your future…side note: i do believe upbringing plays a vital role for add/adhd just like how our eyes adjusts to the stuff we see the most growing up…if you wear glasses yes, the genetics partially makeup the reason, but i bet 75-85% the other reason is because we’re used to seeing things closer than we should…I doubt our ancestors needed glasses & i bet for the ones who did they didn’t last long 🤣 *my joke*
Adhd whit depression. 100%
This is truly interesting, but it misses a big thing here. It doesn't invalidate the message completely but it really misses something big. Poor executive functions begins earlier than your friend group. Childhood. Growing up in a household where a parent suffers from: mental disorser/alcohol or drug abuse/general bad parenting w/ neglect. This will put the children on the path of feeling connectedness with the group with poor executive function at a truly early stage. And there you have it. I'd say it's 50% parenting/early years and 50% peer pressure (Sabine Doebel's example).
On a similar note: They did tests on Vietnam military personel who abused substances. They wanted to see whom of these vets were still abusing and who weren't when they were back in the US again. The answer? Veterans were much less likely to no abuse drugs If they had a safe and stable childhood.
Context is everything.
Focus is a skill like many others. That being said, there are ways to improve it.
if context is so important could isolation make your executive function worse?
Yes
Or better, if the context is normally against you
Absolutely.
Taking a moment to gather your thoughts and not feel unduly pressured is good for EF. Feeling powerless, irrelevant and lacking helpful props for decision making is bad for EF.
Yes a thousand times Covid lockdowns f..d mine even more than normal for my Neurodiverse brain led me to to getting an ADHD Inattentive diagnosis at 40.
This is also how cultural norms work! (Referring to the group thing.) If everyone around is doing something, or is NOT doing something, most people naturally adjust their behavior to fit in better to match the crowd. It's also why we know humans are not solitary creatures, we are highly socialized and need the group.
There are exceptions to that idea in individuals, in other cultures , and in other mind types of the population. It is more complex than that all or nothing view. The theory does not stand.
When my second son was born the pediatrician noticed I fit certain criteria in “artistry” and sent me here. It really was a beautiful conversation.
I skipped to the last two minutes of this, and that is all you need to know about my executive function #adhd
I can relate this. #adhd
I have reread your comment 3 times and spaced out the last two minutes of the video. #adhd
I found zero useful about this as an adhd person. all she says is basically see what your peers are doing and develop strategies. like what strategies other than comparison exactly? This seemed very poorly executed to to me
@@Trolltastically I have Aspergers and ADHD Inattentive
Oooo.... Great idea!
I find it very hard to change gears between relax mode and work mode.
Mindfulness helps
How do you usexmindfulness?
Very helpful with 3 kids. Great talk!
Executive function skills are vital in this world. Thanks for explaining!
u and noone has any idea about them and they have 40 different definitions. Barkley and brown seem to have the most clue
I failed so hard at executive function, that I can't even finish the video without going to the comments :)
I'm doing that right now!
Very well said, and great awareness!
Keep up the great work!
Excellent. So important for adults and kids to understand.
american: i learned how to drive and it was stressful
german: lol
you need more *context* to this joke
Its strange ADHD was not mentioned at all! Where is my orange juice? Executive function runs my life. #adhd
Same
Totally! #adhd
@FaithLehane Sure. I agree. Just saying that "improving executive function" has more of an impact on people with ADHD than neurotypical brains. It's like doing a talk on how you found out how to restore sight, but not even mentioning the impact on blind people. I love her work. Just saying.
ADHD is a made up condition
@@Timtaltimtal I dont have the surplus executive function to reply to this comment.
Me as a child in the marshmallow test : / tries to look away, zones out, forgets the marshmellow was there /
She's making a big mistake. She's not talking or explaining anything about executive function with the marshmallow test. It's actually an ability to tune out from that focus that will help those kids wait, as she herself describes.
And it fits with what Gabor Maté's theory states, that it's exactly an early childhood need to tune out from difficult situations that will create problems with executive function/adhd
Amazing! 🤩
As someone diagnosed with ADHD this did not answer my problem that I have with executive functioning
As someone who is great at games like colour/shape sorting and still sucks at executive functioning, yeah that tells you nothing.
Is there a good book to read if I found her answer for how to improve executive function unhelpful?
@@TheWickedWeaver Thank you, will do.
This is crucial information in the age of long covid. Shame none of the doctors give a toss about it
I’m very disappointed we didn’t get a cut clip of kids singing in order to distract them from eating the marshmallow… lol
Conforming isn't for everyone. Adhd and depression effect executive function. Society makes our brains sick and unable to endure the punishments of not falling in line with everyone else. If your executive functioning is malfunctioning, you'll likely need medication to help you conform.
Not all of us are lucky enough to like the people we must go to school and work with. Poverty doesn't do much but hinder the ability to think ahead. Stress is a thief of planning and motivation.
Good luck changing the context of everyday life.
Amen, sister friend.
Alisha Wilson I sadly have to agree and disagree. You are right society makes our brains sick but I think it’s more about what society allows us to indulge in. If it’s socially ally ok to eat junk food and not work out, you will most likely need drugs, ohh and our sick society says drugs are ok too. Sickness cycle imo.
alisha,i agree so much it hurts
“Stress is a thief of planning and motivation”. Brilliant!
Same in autism
I love how she ended her talk! I went back to the last 2 minutes like 15 times
But he who endure to the end,the same will be given a cotton candy. LOL
I’m waiting for the second video before I press the like button.
JJ
Awesome
JJ
What I got from this is that the context (our environment, and our beliefs) can improve executive function...
Soooo how do we improve it?
Humans are herd animals. We learn from each other and we grow with eachother. We need each other to function well. If this TED talk isn't evidence of that, I dunno what is.
Wow this is really interesting! It must be so much fun to do experiment with kids!
Brigi Szabo it is! They’re so cute. I worked in a lab and actually got to run a study for my professor and it’s challenging when they’re really young though.
YES YES ❤😊 love from SWEDEN
@Ivan You're comparing this to torture and murder? Something must be wrong with you.
@@kimberlygonzalez3148 You're going to make a fantastic mother. Bless you. 👏
Great presentation and a good perspective to take with EF work
Great video!!
Wait. Wait. Wait.
Executive function is your ability to think outside of habit and simplicity, and yet the best way of fostering it in people is to play on an inherent need for social conformity? Something which in the long run is known as one of the major reasons why people don't think for themselves?
That is messed up.
You have to bear in mind this is a woman's perspective, and the study children are girls too. The female biology is innately drawn to safety which is acquired through large groups and social harmony. It would be very interesting to see the same study in the inverse, with a male researcher and young boys. Boys are are of course far more well-known to be rebellious and genuinely independent in their thought.
The obedient worker functions
Um, is this a re-upload? I feel like I've watched this before...
I also think that what "executive function" is wasn't explained very well or thoroughly enough...
true
This was a very nice video 👍🏼
Very good. ✊🏾 9:16
What if my problem is that I'm completely incapable of making strategies for planning ? I'm permanently stuck in a loop of wanting to do things but unable to figure out how to, and I have literally zero supports to bounce ideas off or or plan with. I'm not dumb, I'm completely stuck. I have no peers because I'm a depressed shut in with no friends. How do I get context to change my frame of mind when my entire life has been this way? I've fallen through every societal safety net in place and continue to freefall...
short and clear also helpful
Still waiting for that quick fix! Next video
I’m a job seeker with ASD and indivs acting as agents for prospective employers, Ari Arad, Alina Arad, Joyce Arad, Avi Arad, Isaac Perlmutter and Laura Perlmutter deny me equal access to test by using radionic/other electronic devices in communications to remove my executive functions including Impulse Control and Self-Care which I suffer a 30% deficit from childhood in a facility of the 12 Step Programs called The Creative Closet of A.A.
was sure dopamine triggers would be involved in this discussion. Is that entirely separate?
So good!!!! Teary eye status
I'm captivated by the clarity and insight in this content. A book with comparable insights was pivotal in my journey. "Mindful Mastery: Living Intentionally in a Chaotic World" by Kyle Ash
Could OCD be an overuse of Executive function, like you are hyper aware of what you are doing?
No, OCD is a lack of it, you can't change from one activity to another. You're kind of stucked in one activity, because the priority of tasks does not change, but skip back again.
Executive function is the obedience function--it leads to success only so far. The greatest achievers in their fields tend to pursue what they love, without waiting, even impulsively.
How do we measure the executive function with adolescence ?
Very interesting.
"Have you ever poured OJ on your cereal?"
Vegans: "Yes. What's your point?"
I love OJ Simpson on my cereal
He wasn't a serial. Just two. I mean none.
@@LughSummerson lol
Ew. Why would we need that when there are so many types of non-dairy milk out there? lol
Accidentally put salt in my coffee
Musical training also helps improve executive functioning
So- a bit off topic- but I find it interesting that I come away identifying with the "green" group. When talking about the video, "green" is the example i automatically use. In my mind, just from the input from this video, "orange" is othered. Just. Like. That. That's how fast we form tribes and create the "other."
ok but how do you improve it?
Exactly, thumbs down for a click bait title.
did you watch the video? there wasn’t step by step instructions, but the title isn’t clickbait.
Buy her book or expensive weekend retreat
@@pissangelmindfreak Wrong, it only says what doesn't work. Did YOU even watch it? Oh.. and "how to improve it" does not exist in this video so yes, it's a click bait title.
If one is to believe the talk: deliberately design better contexts, invent secondary rewards.
Come up with strategies to help. Hmm if I could do that I wouldn’t have executive dysfunction....
it sounds like this instance of the marshmallow test shows that kids are extremely suggestible
I want to see that one kid who was raised vegan in the marshmallow test.
“Most supermarket marshmallows have gelatin, i don’t eat gelatin. Got any kale?”
I love that star and truck game but there are adults that would do the same as the little girl.
And they'd argue with you how they are right because they "feel" right.
I feel like she missed the real point of her own experiments. It’s not that context matters. It’s that IDENTITY matters. That’s really what she was manipulating.
Am leaving halfway after reading the comments 🤓
Congratulations, you just demonstrated the placebo effect!
Somente quando conhecemos a nós mesmo que os resultados aparecem❤
If you have poor executive function, get tested for ADHD. Dr. Russell Barkley describes ADHD as an 'executive function disorder'
Interesting talk :)) its taking me a while to complete my drivers license too... I put it off for grad school but now that I completed my studies and will be working full-time next month, I should focus on continuing driving lessons in my free time and finally getting that license lol.
Helpful video. Good.
i had to watch this in 1.75x speed and i keep on switching to different tabs.
I suffered functional brain demage due to psychiatric medicines، any suggestion to improve
So her study shows that children have strong tribalism.
Don't forget that a study can only suggest effects that were not investigated.
But yeah: young children are tribal. To the degree where they prefer kids which eat the same cereal.
Not as much discrimination between skin color, though. Also it's probably much more in-group preference than out-group denegrigration.
Adults have it too, we are just better at hiding it or ignoring it.
Anybody remember the kindergarten kids from recess?
Didn't they show that in that blue eyes-brown eyes experiment with the teacher?
Belief
DOES TDCS THERAPY HELP WITH EXECUTIVE FUNCTION PLEASE?
Are you implying that telling neurodiverse people that you can't do this, because you've got A, B, or C, might actually make some of their symptoms even worse? 🤔
♦️ I wish in all coming videos approval Arabic in translation please ♥️
🔷 * small notice * : the Arab world ( we .. 😁) ... Owend internet and technology example your country
and thanks you on your efforts ♥️🌹
So you guys with those stupid relgions now controls internet and technology
? I don't understand either of you're comments, but I only recognize one as offensive and ignorant. It's ironic. I laughed at myself a bit
Let me HYPERBOLE the matter, so people can grasp the concept: Let’s say someone uses force to make you clean-up your room: “I’LL PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE IF YOU DON’T PICK-UP YOUR ROOM”. Lets say perchance you executed the command to a T, at the end of the day, the value of cleanliness is predicated on the value, if you will, of fear but cleanliness had nothing to do with it. If the value of an execution of an effort versus a catharsis or release were put on a balance, I think the context of catharsis would take precedence over the execution of forced effort every time. Ergo, I don’t have to clean my room anymore because I’m free of that person that didn’t add value to my function!! 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
Executive function improves when you distance yourself from narcissists, family scapegoat abuse, and cults in general. You make better decisions when you're in parasympathetic mode. Like she says, context matters!
Tedx pls make a video on how to sleep only for 4 hours
Just get yourself a goal in mind, your mind won't let you sleep for more than 4 hours....
@@viveksharma770 thanks buddy
@@vsinghgolesingh1619 Welcome bro
Did Someone put canned laughter when the kid puts the blue star in the truck box?
BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE YOU ❤😍💋 10/10 video
I waited about the half of the speech so she can get to the point, and then she sad something that everyone already knows. I think that they(scientists) barely know anything about executive functions just the obvious.
W R O N G
Some times business personels don't know how to address an issuses.Today , I was going to a Dollar tree store's locate at Florida Ave Tampa Florida, the store is so dirthy so I spoke and aked for a position some one says talk to the manager the manager's says know so I said why is this floor so dirthy she called the police one me.
So in order to stop putting orange juice on my cereal I should change my context to a peer group of people who value not putting OJ on their cereal?
Just hopped in immediately I saw the notification
Interesting !
shocked that neurodivergence wasn't even mentioned in this talk!
it's affected by mob mentality in a way.
I’m liking this but the pacing/deliver whilst crystal clear seems a tad paediatric to me... maybe I just need to “know myself” better 🥴😉
Agreed, this was really useless
"The vast majority of Argentine Jews are descended from immigrants who arrived from Europe. These ashkenazic Jews migrated from small towns or shtetels of Poland, Lithuania, Russia, Germany, Romania or Ukraine, leaving behind most of their Jewish relatives. After two or three generations, those Jewish families lost track of their relatives, having been saved from the war, emigrated to other countries like USA, England or Australia."
Who else has an exam tomorrow