Please read the description! Also, make sure to pause the video when reading each heroes stats, as you won't have enough time to read through it before the video moves on. Additionally, the hero stats you see are them in their base form, without any cards equipped. Equipping cards will further buff their abilities, hero stats, or add additional effects that can make them more effective against troopers or heroes. If you are curious about card loadouts, check out my video on them here: ruclips.net/video/M_tyqvcXmWI/видео.html. Lots of info! I really hope you enjoy this video that took longer than it should have been lol. Stay tuned for more Battlefront 2 content and also Jedi: Survivor very soon!
If yoda got invincible frames during his dash attack, I genuinly believe he'd go to A or S tier. The fact lightsaber heroes can parry it and make the tradeoff way worse for yoda makes the ability bad to use most the time.
Funnily enough he doesn’t need it. Yoda has dash attack exploits that makes him ridiculously OP. 3 things that makes his dash attack so powerful: - it goes through blocks - it does damage from all 360 degrees - it has an insanely huge hitbox If you use him right, you can chain the dash attack 3 times in a row, without any risk of getting parried or hit. Remember, you can do a normal dash through your enemy, and follow it up with a dash attack. Not only will this register as a hit, but it will do more damage since it’s a hit from behind. It’s hard to explain this all in a comment, but I’ve got videos on my PomPamPoof account showcasing it.
@@TeenWithACarrotIDK That’s like his only downside but I don’t really notice it unless I switch to Anakin with massive strikes like “have I been hitting these dudes with a pool noodle????” 😭
Obi wan is basically light side Vader minus the dmg but his rush deals good dmg and if u get a push with a double hit ur still good to go. He’s very hard to kill because of his regen
Awesome video! Incredibly informative. It was a while since I played this game, but I've always enjoyed watching your content regardless. You're so crazy skilled and knowledgeable. Shoutout to the epic transition at 16:16!
I think one of the reasons why both Vader and Grievous are on top of the Tier is that they don’t deal reduced damage towards heroes. Pair that with the ability looping and you get easy high damage. In the case of Grievous if he lands Thrust surge, he can easily follow it with Claw rush, and if timed right he gets one more basic strike (160+130+130=420 ; with cards 520) The others don’t have the same looping capabilities, or deal less damage overall (may have better range though) Don’t get me wrong, in a fight experience may be the determine factor, but this advantage makes it easier overall for game modes like HvV
Bruh your video was absolutely perfect and I’m extremely impressed that your one of very few to analyze and explain my boy darth maul’s strengths and weaknesses in bf2 great work 💯❤️💪💪
Great video you put together here! Awesome gameplay, hard to keep up with a player like you. I want to point out that I have to play with reduced resolution due to my hardware, but I have seen it in high res before. Still looking stunning in 2023, what a beautiful game!
Hero’s vs villains should either only have lightsaber characters or should have a game mode with those restrictions. It should also have a 1 v 1 game mode
What a video! You must've put so much time and effort into making this. I do really appreciate this. Btw Vader clear of everyone he's so op he's not allowed to have cards in duels in comp.
Incredible video. I main Luke and Grievous, with Luke on MAX and Grievous around 670. The way you made the video super informative, while also syncing it to the music AND providing epic clips....🥺👌. There's only one thing that I'd disagree with: I believe Yoda is a really good duelist with his excellent lunges, insane tanki-ness and most importantly his block breaker. Nevertheless excellent video, the work you put into it really shows👍🙏
Exactly, you should’ve put him at least at number 3 on light side in your ranking vid lol, with the right loadout he can take 498 damage with presence active without losing perm which is absurd and that’s without size.
Couldn't agree more, I've been playing only grevious and obiwan for the longest time. Both heroes are nearly unkillable if you play them right and you can get 100+ killstreaks with minimal effort.
Grievous really is a more advanced hero to me than others. There's a learning curve to him regardless of mode, where unskilled players or new ones who don't have cards for him will get shredded due to poor stamina and ability usage but once he has the right setup he turns into a tanky beast
In the cons of Yoda, you can also write that his heal is buggy and almost never works for allies. After the last patch, this bug appeared and now it will never be fixed
Personally, I don't think Grievus is the strongest of the villains, it is true that "meat is weak" makes him a completely different hero and he is perhaps the third most tankable character in the game (behind obviously Obiwan and Vader) But still he has too many disadvantages, in HvV or even HSD duels where you fight against you know all his skills are counterable you have to hit your opponent so you can do damage (I'm not denying that his combo damage is huge but that amount of damage can be equal or greater in vader, rey, luke and anakin) Its rush is parrable and blockable and unless you are at a very short distance you can dodge it with blasters if you roll back, its rush is one of the most teleguided attacks in the game, you can parrear it and punish with sabers and dodge it easily with blasters its only real use is punishing jumps, closing distance or ramming unsuspecting enemies (and I don't think it's really necessary to talk about UA its only real use is to buy time maybe cheat in corridors but anyone with more than 10 hours in hvv will understand how bad and unreliable it is in other game modes) Basically, it differs from other tanks, its abilities are countable, useful merely in mobility. I recognize that it has perhaps the third or fourth best mobility in the entire game, but it lacks the efficiency in its abilities, such as Vader, which I could certainly say has been the most broken hero in the game forever except for anakin and grievus in his oneshot era
In the same way, a very good tierlist, it really only causes me something to see grievus so high being that in hvv none can kill me and it is very difficult to use it against people who know how his abilities work (And not seeing vader being the strongest like whaaaaaaat)
U don’t in the end its his thing, if he plays on this im guessing default fov then he shall do that, ur fov doesn’t necessarily have to change ur skill
Thought I’d mention my favorite and least favorite lightsaber heroes and villains because why not: Fav: LS: Luke DS: Vader Least Fav: LS: Yoda DS: Grievous I’m not saying my least favorites are bad or anything, they just don’t fit my preferred play style.
I agree with most of the choices in the video but giving Grievous speed and agility, I don't agree, as much as his jump may be fast but he is rather slow compared to most heroes, especially for his basic attack speed, and seeing that Unrelenting Advance doesn't work properly compared to before where it was punitive (really punitive now people have to be really stupid to get killed by ability)
I recommend flesh is weak, beating heart, and line up weaklings for trooper modes. I replace line up weakling with jedi killer in hero modes personally but there are other good options, the range boost is crazy tho for hvv. If u duel in showdown don't use that one, but I just play hvv so it's useful
In my opinion I think yoda has the potential to be better than maul and obi wan and maybe over Dooku he’s just squishy but with opposing the darkside card he’s real good
Cool vid, Yoda shouldn’t be in d tier though, he’s not very good in HvV, but obviously he’s quite strong in trooper modes and he’s the second best lightsaber duelist on light side
Hero only or trooper? IMO Luke is better in showdown because of his fast swings and dmg with intensify even tho ani is still nice, Anakin is better in hvv and trooper modes because of his crowd control
”cant emote democracy" Also great vid! question about phasmas staff strikes & lightsaber attacks though, what determines whether it tracks the enemy down? Really annoying when my eneimies constantly track basic attack me throughout the map but it wont let me do it to them. It would be really useful for securing my kills. Also how come whenever i try to cc an enemy that is using basic attacks they just attack through it?
They are holding down the sprint button while attacking which is what causes them to constantly lunge towards you while you try to get away. Some heroes have different ranges of their lunge attack, the worst being Rey imo who I’ve seen lunge like 3 dodges worth of distance in one swing. The reason why enemies aren’t getting CC’d by you while they are attacking is because they are holding block while attacking. This causes their guard to come up much sooner than their animation shows, so it looks like they are still attacking when in reality their block is back up again. There’s only a very short window when their guard is down while attacking, which is between the start and a bit before their attack animation finishes
@@FulcrumHQ99 Thank you for the info! Been able to figure out parries & other issues on my own but these have left me stumped for months! Now I won't have to deal with Anakin's constant bs, who imo is the worst abuser of these things. I greatly appreciate the info!
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It's had 2 hits since he released buddy, the animation looks like one hit but it has TWO TICKS of damage, the first one which is only 40 happens immediately as he raises his saber to swing, and the second when and if you actually land it. Just go in arcade mode and test it out.
Please read the description! Also, make sure to pause the video when reading each heroes stats, as you won't have enough time to read through it before the video moves on. Additionally, the hero stats you see are them in their base form, without any cards equipped. Equipping cards will further buff their abilities, hero stats, or add additional effects that can make them more effective against troopers or heroes. If you are curious about card loadouts, check out my video on them here: ruclips.net/video/M_tyqvcXmWI/видео.html. Lots of info!
I really hope you enjoy this video that took longer than it should have been lol. Stay tuned for more Battlefront 2 content and also Jedi: Survivor very soon!
If yoda got invincible frames during his dash attack, I genuinly believe he'd go to A or S tier. The fact lightsaber heroes can parry it and make the tradeoff way worse for yoda makes the ability bad to use most the time.
Agreed. Sad part is I love playing yoda against people that don’t know this because he IS fun when he wins, but a good dueler will make it hard for me
That would make him op, he’s already good enough
Funnily enough he doesn’t need it.
Yoda has dash attack exploits that makes him ridiculously OP.
3 things that makes his dash attack so powerful:
- it goes through blocks
- it does damage from all 360 degrees
- it has an insanely huge hitbox
If you use him right, you can chain the dash attack 3 times in a row, without any risk of getting parried or hit.
Remember, you can do a normal dash through your enemy, and follow it up with a dash attack.
Not only will this register as a hit, but it will do more damage since it’s a hit from behind.
It’s hard to explain this all in a comment, but I’ve got videos on my PomPamPoof account showcasing it.
Yoda is very cool in trooper giving 10+ allies and self Shield AOE trooper clear and 3 Dash w/ Agility + small guy @@m_ruben
Glad ppl are finally seeing how great obi wan is
I think his largest downside is his damage output, but that ultimately is determined by how good you are at finding openings and what cards you use.
@@TeenWithACarrotIDK I use the cards that increases his push range and decrease the wind up time, I've gotten like 12 or 13 people in one push
@@TeenWithACarrotIDK That’s like his only downside but I don’t really notice it unless I switch to Anakin with massive strikes like “have I been hitting these dudes with a pool noodle????” 😭
Democracyyy@@Slinging_INK
Obi wan is basically light side Vader minus the dmg but his rush deals good dmg and if u get a push with a double hit ur still good to go. He’s very hard to kill because of his regen
9:37 Clean transition.
Awesome video! Incredibly informative. It was a while since I played this game, but I've always enjoyed watching your content regardless. You're so crazy skilled and knowledgeable. Shoutout to the epic transition at 16:16!
this is beautiful thank you
Came for the tier list, stayed for the great gameplay and editing. +1
Appreciate it!
I think one of the reasons why both Vader and Grievous are on top of the Tier is that they don’t deal reduced damage towards heroes. Pair that with the ability looping and you get easy high damage.
In the case of Grievous if he lands Thrust surge, he can easily follow it with Claw rush, and if timed right he gets one more basic strike (160+130+130=420 ; with cards 520)
The others don’t have the same looping capabilities, or deal less damage overall (may have better range though)
Don’t get me wrong, in a fight experience may be the determine factor, but this advantage makes it easier overall for game modes like HvV
Literally every hero/ villain you had explain was the pure truth 💯
Bruh your video was absolutely perfect and I’m extremely impressed that your one of very few to analyze and explain my boy darth maul’s strengths and weaknesses in bf2 great work 💯❤️💪💪
Great video you put together here! Awesome gameplay, hard to keep up with a player like you.
I want to point out that I have to play with reduced resolution due to my hardware, but I have seen it in high res before. Still looking stunning in 2023, what a beautiful game!
Hero’s vs villains should either only have lightsaber characters or should have a game mode with those restrictions. It should also have a 1 v 1 game mode
What a video! You must've put so much time and effort into making this. I do really appreciate this. Btw Vader clear of everyone he's so op he's not allowed to have cards in duels in comp.
You forgot to say that maul is a yeet god in bespin and kashyyk, but cool
This video is so high quality with the gameplay and editing
Really dissapointed that EA removed the lightsaber from Palpatine as well as making him walk instead of floating.
great cinematography, 10/10 vid
Great analysis! Totally agree with your rankings
Thank you!
Incredible video. I main Luke and Grievous, with Luke on MAX and Grievous around 670. The way you made the video super informative, while also syncing it to the music AND providing epic clips....🥺👌. There's only one thing that I'd disagree with: I believe Yoda is a really good duelist with his excellent lunges, insane tanki-ness and most importantly his block breaker. Nevertheless excellent video, the work you put into it really shows👍🙏
Exactly, you should’ve put him at least at number 3 on light side in your ranking vid lol, with the right loadout he can take 498 damage with presence active without losing perm which is absurd and that’s without size.
my personal list is
1. Vader
2. Luke
3. Anikan
4. kenobi
5. kylo
6. greivous
7. dooku
8. rey
9. maul
10. dooku
Trooper or hero only modes
6:42 lore accurate yoda ☠️☠️
Couldn't agree more, I've been playing only grevious and obiwan for the longest time. Both heroes are nearly unkillable if you play them right and you can get 100+ killstreaks with minimal effort.
Anyone remember Boba Fett SWBF2 beta days?
Oh man his rockets were so deadly. They nerfed him pretty bad. It was fun though.
Grievous really is a more advanced hero to me than others. There's a learning curve to him regardless of mode, where unskilled players or new ones who don't have cards for him will get shredded due to poor stamina and ability usage but once he has the right setup he turns into a tanky beast
In the cons of Yoda, you can also write that his heal is buggy and almost never works for allies. After the last patch, this bug appeared and now it will never be fixed
Personally, I don't think Grievus is the strongest of the villains, it is true that "meat is weak" makes him a completely different hero and he is perhaps the third most tankable character in the game (behind obviously Obiwan and Vader)
But still he has too many disadvantages, in HvV or even HSD duels where you fight against you know all his skills are counterable you have to hit your opponent so you can do damage (I'm not denying that his combo damage is huge but that amount of damage can be equal or greater in vader, rey, luke and anakin)
Its rush is parrable and blockable and unless you are at a very short distance you can dodge it with blasters if you roll back, its rush is one of the most teleguided attacks in the game, you can parrear it and punish with sabers and dodge it easily with blasters its only real use is punishing jumps, closing distance or ramming unsuspecting enemies (and I don't think it's really necessary to talk about UA its only real use is to buy time maybe cheat in corridors but anyone with more than 10 hours in hvv will understand how bad and unreliable it is in other game modes)
Basically, it differs from other tanks, its abilities are countable, useful merely in mobility. I recognize that it has perhaps the third or fourth best mobility in the entire game, but it lacks the efficiency in its abilities, such as Vader, which I could certainly say has been the most broken hero in the game forever except for anakin and grievus in his oneshot era
In the same way, a very good tierlist, it really only causes me something to see grievus so high being that in hvv none can kill me and it is very difficult to use it against people who know how his abilities work (And not seeing vader being the strongest like whaaaaaaat)
holy. this is so underated. you put alot of time into this vid and yet under 10K subs? wish u luck in getting more
He’s got 30k subs
dude this editing is great
great video and editing really good montage I can see the effort keep it up man
You considering doing a version of this for blaster heroes anytime soon?
Uhm, why wasn't BB9E in this? No offense, but leaving out the MVP is a lil' disrespectful.
Man i wish theyd continue this game
As a new-ish player to the game this video was amazing! Also, how does your game look so good? Are you using some mods?
Remember when Yoda's dash would 1 hit troopers? Those were the days, same with Vaders saber throw
super high quality as always. I'm not really a hero (let alone sabers) player except bossk, iden, or bb8 but your vids are always helpful regardless
You have to make yout FOV way higher for saber guys
U don’t in the end its his thing, if he plays on this im guessing default fov then he shall do that, ur fov doesn’t necessarily have to change ur skill
@@niklasthiemann5538 its objectively better
@@jakob8940 fair
When you force choked the Luke at 15:00 the player was spitting curse words
Thought I’d mention my favorite and least favorite lightsaber heroes and villains because why not:
Fav:
LS: Luke
DS: Vader
Least Fav:
LS: Yoda
DS: Grievous
I’m not saying my least favorites are bad or anything, they just don’t fit my preferred play style.
Most vanilla battlefront player
6:14 I thought my friend Paofit is not playing anymore lol
Awesome video! Will you do a blaster hero list as well?
It’s such a crime how bad they did Yoda in this game and he’s the GRANDMASTER 😂😂
You have 2% pro level saber gamers in the game.
Chance to meet them is
I agree with most of the choices in the video but giving Grievous speed and agility, I don't agree, as much as his jump may be fast but he is rather slow compared to most heroes, especially for his basic attack speed, and seeing that Unrelenting Advance doesn't work properly compared to before where it was punitive (really punitive now people have to be really stupid to get killed by ability)
Bro this channel is Lit
imagine being a max vader and getting handed by a yoda
Beautiful
8:50 what's the mod you use for the choke sound?
I think im equipping the wrong star cards on Grievous cause those claw rush trooper kills are crazy. I gotta adjust my setup, lol
I recommend flesh is weak, beating heart, and line up weaklings for trooper modes. I replace line up weakling with jedi killer in hero modes personally but there are other good options, the range boost is crazy tho for hvv. If u duel in showdown don't use that one, but I just play hvv so it's useful
Love this
I found Yoda a good hero to duel with and im not trolling. Especially against Darth Maul,Kylo Ren and only trash low level Vaders
In my opinion I think yoda has the potential to be better than maul and obi wan and maybe over Dooku he’s just squishy but with opposing the darkside card he’s real good
You can parry his main offense really easy, his push is kinda shit, and his head is bugged
Cool vid, Yoda shouldn’t be in d tier though, he’s not very good in HvV, but obviously he’s quite strong in trooper modes and he’s the second best lightsaber duelist on light side
Yoda its surprisingly very good in Hero Showdown when you come to understand how use him
Lol nah
Who is better? Luke or anakin (when he is not buggy)
Hero only or trooper?
IMO Luke is better in showdown because of his fast swings and dmg with intensify even tho ani is still nice, Anakin is better in hvv and trooper modes because of his crowd control
2:57 Faraam?
”cant emote democracy"
Also great vid!
question about phasmas staff strikes & lightsaber attacks though, what determines whether it tracks the enemy down? Really annoying when my eneimies constantly track basic attack me throughout the map but it wont let me do it to them. It would be really useful for securing my kills. Also how come whenever i try to cc an enemy that is using basic attacks they just attack through it?
They are holding down the sprint button while attacking which is what causes them to constantly lunge towards you while you try to get away. Some heroes have different ranges of their lunge attack, the worst being Rey imo who I’ve seen lunge like 3 dodges worth of distance in one swing.
The reason why enemies aren’t getting CC’d by you while they are attacking is because they are holding block while attacking. This causes their guard to come up much sooner than their animation shows, so it looks like they are still attacking when in reality their block is back up again. There’s only a very short window when their guard is down while attacking, which is between the start and a bit before their attack animation finishes
@@FulcrumHQ99 Thank you for the info! Been able to figure out parries & other issues on my own but these have left me stumped for months! Now I won't have to deal with Anakin's constant bs, who imo is the worst abuser of these things. I greatly appreciate the info!
@@SSNNPBCC no worries! Glad to help 🙂
Interesting that your not complaining about how overpowered and unfair Vader is. Kinda refreshing
Secret is: they are just still afraid of Vader's image which slows their reaction time by 10 milliseconds, which means death xD
it's a matter of acceptance at this point lol
I meannn, to be fair, Vader is really overpowered and unfair, but grievous is even more so 😂
Wait a second kit fisto isn’t a hero 12:16
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it says passionate strike has a second hit how? i only see him do one hit swing when i use the ability how do i learn to do the second hit?
It's had 2 hits since he released buddy, the animation looks like one hit but it has TWO TICKS of damage, the first one which is only 40 happens immediately as he raises his saber to swing, and the second when and if you actually land it.
Just go in arcade mode and test it out.
@@phalanx8437 ty i recently got the game like 2 months ago
@@user-wz2vw1mv8tI have about 2,000 hours and have been playing for 4 years, if you have any questions, ask away.
Nice
what does CC mean?
I don’t actually know what it means but im guessing immunity to being hit/affected by different force ability’s such as chocke
league of legends music. like
what is CC inmunity?
It means you don’t get rag dolled. For example: Choked, Frozen or Stunned
Hello my friend
Dooku c tier lol. Automatically trash list
His opinion plus he’s counting the trooper modes but whatever u say
Man, watching this makes me want to play again.
I wish EA kept supporting the game.
Also, I wish I could play with mods🥲 That be nice.