Disregarding Other’s Rights
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- Disregarding Other’s Rights
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Yay first 💚💙 . You are right . We can speculate all we want but we are not his friends,just fans. Someone close to them ,labeling them without consent, Beau so bad.
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Yes I agree that no matter what we think of Harry and how much we think we know about him doesn't make it true and there are other people who have " let slip" stuff they should not and I'm sure we've seen the videos also obviously his close friends and family know so nobody who knows him well would say this and I loathe others who think it is OK to do this when the person chooses not to divulge it is their choice if they ever decide to or not .
@@aprilfisher4947 My only problem here is hypocrisy - and you can loathe me all you like even though you don't know me.
You have said that 'other people have let slip stuff they should not' which is absolutely true - but where is the castigation from Larries of those people? Where are the complaints about, for example, Perrie Edwards, outing Larry? Where are the complaints about Kacey Musgraves shouting Larry on stage? Where are the complaints about Roman Kemp's slip of the tongue? etc etc
Why are we complaining about this guy? Is it because we don't know him, or don't like him, and so therefore assume that he is clout chasing or something rather than giving the benefit of the doubt or taking it as proof positive as we have when those incidents that I have listed above have happened? Also, not you personally I'm sure, but I wonder just how many of those condemning this guy, would have instead been celebrating if Ed, James, Gemma, or someone else had said exactly the same thing?
You are right that it is up to a person to choose when to divulge such information. But how do we know that this isn't Harry's chosen method? Perhaps he has had enough of waiting, especially as Louis appears to be free or almost so from his recent behaviour. Getting a supposed unknown, or someone that he has no known ties to, to let it slip, would actually make more sense that Ed, James etc doing so. If someone we know outed him, at his request, then management could sue making a case that it known that they are close friends and that he got them to let slip to get round his NDA. However, if a more or less totally unknown and unconnected person lets it slip, it would make it far harder for management to make such a claim. I am not saying this is what has happened here, just that it is possible that it maybe and we should not condemn unless or until we know the full facts and motivations - just in the same way that we should not condemn and attack beards simply for existing without knowing why they are doing what they are doing.
Thank you @Camren Life for sharing this video as it has stimulated discussion by many people about very important ideas, particularly those raised by Derek in his comment below. His discussion has highlighted significant concerns for those of us who are Larries, about what our intentions are, and what kind of limits should guide our discussions, no matter how well-intentioned our motives may be. His words caused me to stop and think very carefully about my own actions, and to what extent they have not always respected the rights to privacy of Harry and Louis. However, he also raised the dilemma caused by the hints provided by both of them that have led us to talk about and search for proofs and speculate about possibilities. I think it would be helpful for both of them to be able to follow a discussion like this. I am sure that we all want what is best for them.
@MegaPennyx Thank you, I appreciate your kind words. I just think we all need to look at ourselves and ask ourselves if we are just as bad. We don't know this guys motives and if we don't use words carefully or think about our actions, they can have unintended consequences. For example, I know that @CamrenLife made this video for the best possible reasons - to criticise Beau, to support Harry and fight for his rights. However, some people - like myself - had no idea that this had even happened until we saw her video. She not only repeated what he said, but showed the video of it. People like me who hadn't seen the original podcast or any other social media, had no idea. Now, thanks to her, we know that Harry's sexuality has not only been 'confirmed' but that that 'confirmation' originated from a very reliable resource (Harry's close friend, Ed) which makes it all the more possibly true. Therefore, given that I (and others) didn't know, by doing what she did, even with the best of intentions, she's actually contributed to the outing and outed him further.
Likewise, those that say "it's Harry's secret to tell, not his (Beau's)" are outing him too. What they are actually saying (although they don't mean to) is that Harry DOES have that secret to tell, but that it is up to him and no one else to tell it. Whereas, if they don't want to out him to they should say "IF he has a secret to tell, it's his to tell and no one else's". I know some will say it's just semantics and pedantry - but words have meanings and we should use them carefully, especially when we are going to criticise others.
@@derekhorne8076 Thank you Derek for your very thoughtful response. You write in a very expressive and constructive way.
@@MegaPennyx My Pleasure and thank you for all your kind and supportive words and thinking about the wider issues here. Something I think we all could benefit from - including myself, I am far from perfect! lol
I DO NOT believe that Ed would have said this and it's not for anyone else to out him. Basically with what Harry does ppl can tell whether he is or not. But this is totally disgusting!!
I agree with you!
I support both individually, because both seems to be lovely persons, great singers, songwriters, musicians and hopefully nice guys. And, of course, as a Larrie I like the IDEA of both being together. From my outside view it could be true because of the multiple coincidences ...
BUT I'd never want them to come out just for the happiness of all Larries. And I don't want them to be outed by people they may not respect.
And it is absolutely not important for me, if they are het, gay, pan, ... whatever.
They could be together or not, they could be just friends or even enemies ...
I'd always accept it!
It is their own life and I am sure that I only know about 0,1 % (percent) of they private life. And this is absolutely ok!
There's no need to inform us.
I will always support them! They are AIMH!
Both together or individually.
I hope they are doing well!
They deserve it!
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Aunque es algo que No nos debe de sorprender Cristina, definitivamente es IRRESPETUOSO aseverar ls sexualidad de Harry cuando a ese tipejo No le corresponde!! A ese tipo le faltó cordura, criterio, madurez y respeto total al mencionar ese punto por cierto muyy delicado. Cómo es posible que los fans tanto de Harry Styles 💚 como Louis Tomlinson 💙 sean mas precavidos , respetusos y discretos para No mencionar algo tan personal??, que si sean o no, SOLO A ELLOS LES CORRESPONDE MENCIONARLO, A NADIE MÁS!!... Pero, te he de decir que asi le va a ir por haber abierto la boca demás y tomarse atribuciones que NO le corresponden 😠😠
Thank you
What a 🤮guy is that One
He is completly brainless 😔
Hope Harry is ok and attending Glastonbury festival This week end❤❤❤
We are here to love and support HIM not to judge HIM❤❤💚❤.
You are absolutly right ❤
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He is so desperate to get attention also hes definitely needs to get Alfe, hope Harry's ok
I think that him outing him out was disgusting. I think that everyone should be able to out themselves out instead of somebody else outing them. Amazing video, thank you! ❤️
Everyone should be able to out themselves, absolutely correct. However, Harry (and Louis) so far as we believe, cannot out themselves. Whilst I don't know why this guy did what he did, it could be possible that he was asked to do so.
@@derekhorne8076 Maybe. But I doubt that, he’s known for being related to a comedy channel. If I knew that he was harry’s friend then maybe I would’ve seen it differently but I still think that even if they’re closeted, they should out themselves. Even if it takes years. But that’s just my opinion.. I dont know much about closeting since I’ve not heard much of it and I’m straight so I can’t really say what is okay and what isn’t. If harry is okay with it, then I am too.
@@user-tt8mb7vx4s I don't see why that should stop it being possible. For example. Harry (we believe) cannot come out himself because (again, we believe) that he is restricted by NDA/NDCs in his contract(s). Now, if that were the case, he might have decided that he wants to come out and can't wait any longer. He could ask a friend, like Ed or James, to casually 'let it slip'. However, if they did that, Management could argue that the friend had been 'put up to it' by Harry and then try to sue him for breach of contract. However, if someone supposedly random and unconnected 'accidentally' a private conversation with one of Harry's friends, it would be much harder for management to say it was a deliberate act by/for Harry.
Closeting can be bad enough when we do it 'voluntarily' to ourselves (trust me, I've been there). To have it forced upon you against your will is even worse and can be very harmful. You don't have to be gay to understand that. Imagine how you would feel if you had a boyfriend (I'm assuming you are female, but apologies if not), and you had to pretend (for whatever reason) that he didn't exist. You were forced to pretend to the whole world that you didn't like, or even know, him. You had to meet in secret, run around lying to everyone, and even pretend to go out with other guys, just to cover your tracks. Would that not be hard/upsetting? At some point, would you not really think you'd had enough - especially after 14 years?
Now, I'm not saying that that IS what happened, just that it is not without the realms of possibility. The point is, we do not know why Beau said what he said, and therefore, until we do, we should not judge him.
@@derekhorne8076 I also agree that we should'nt judge him, that wasn't my intetion at all. I just still don't think that we should support him til were a 100 precents sure that Harry wanted it to happend. I'm not going to send that guy any hate, and maybe I would've actually viewed it better if I knew that he was actually Harry's friend. I think that even if Harry did want it, that guy could've worded it better
@user-tt8mb7vx4s. I agree and I'm not trying to support. What I'm saying is we should neither support nor condemn until we know the know the facts and his true motivation.
Yes, maybe he could have worded it better. But again, we don't know why he said what he said.
I think the rest of comment is actually very much to my point of the hypocrisy in this matter. If Ed himself, of James, Gemma, Lottie, Niall, Liam, Zayn or someone like that had said what this guy said, all those who are now condemning this Beau guy, would be celebrating and jumping up and down in delight - even if they had used exactly the same words. But, because we either don't know, or don't like him, some are assuming that he said what he said for negative or selfish reasons, when they simply don't know the facts.
This guy was a member of a “comedy” group that made videos for RUclips. He probably hasn’t even met Ed Sheeran.
How do you know that? How do any of us know who Ed knows, who Harry knows, who anyone knows? We might not even know everyone that our family members, so how can we know who a stranger knows?
I don't know who this guy is, and I don't know who hosts the podcast - I'm not interested and I'm not going to Google to find out who he is and what he's done because that's what he wants: publicity. And "make yourself known" as someone who has "information". Did I understand correctly that he said E.S. said that to him?
Well, the thing is, I, and all of us, are interested in what Harry, Liam, Louis, Niall and Zayn say, what they show us, their music and what they say in the lyrics of their songs. (And me personally, to be honest, the clothes they wear, because I really like fashion, and that's why I also follow some designers and stylists.)
We all follow a lot of people because we're interested in and like what they do artistically, whether it's music, painting, literature, graphic or fashion design, or car design, or comics, or whatever, and not because we want to know who they love and with whom they live. This belongs to their private personal life, and if they want to say it, perfect, and if they keep it to themselves, perfect too. Just as we all value our freedom to be who we are and how we are, and want to be respected for our choices, we should do exactly that with everyone: respect, at the very least.
Obviously, none of us have the level of public exposure that these guys have, nor the constant harassment of photographers and some people who call themselves journalists who are just gossipers and spreaders of lies and fabrications. They also are in one of the most demanding, intrusive work environments full of fake, or downright, bad people. Just remember Joni's two tweets and the statement he made when he left "the industry". Working under these circumstances is not easy: most of the musicians I know have a very small circle of trusted friends who, for the most part, work with them and somehow look after them. Family or childhood friends.
Sadly, they're used to this shit, which doesn't mean it doesn't affect them. There is a saying that says: the best contempt is not to appreciate. (I hope the English translation makes sense.) And by that I don't mean that we in the fandom should disagree and not comment on these things, rather the opposite: talk about what some individuals like this one have said, or SC a few days ago, it helps unmask some characters and dismantle some lies; and the more people we know "which foot" certain people in the industry are on, the better the environment will be for everyone, and we will know who to respect and who to ignore.
I want to remind you once again that fandoms have a lot more "power" than what some have led us to believe...our admiration, respect and love is very powerful because there are millions of us all over the world!! It is our support that will help them become stronger and freer.
And here we will continue ✊❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🖤
I do wonder how long ago this guy claims he had this conversation with Ed Sheeran. Can't support outing anyone, only yourself, if you choose.
Exactly
That's assuming one is allowed to out oneself.
That is his personal life and he can say what he wants to about it...Either way he is an exceptional human being and great artist! And as a Larry I wish him love❤❤
By saying all this he is literally saying Ed is a bad friend for bagging 1D and Harry. He is also making it look like Ed said it like a homophobic slur. How dare he do that to Ed and the boys. He seems like some desperate man name dropping and putting things together that everyone has seen on the internet. As Larries we talk about the boys all the time but I'm a loving way and putting clues together that the boys have dropped, it is entirely different from what this loser has done. I can't help but wonder if this is another blow from the other side.
I can't accept that at all. Ed is not made to look bad. If someone makes the choice to divulge something they have been told, that's on them. As I have said elsewhere, this is almost certainly a hope secret within the industry. It's also possible that this was just a slip of the tongue. Where was the condemnation of Perrie Edwards when she stood on stage and outed Larry? What we do is no different at all. We often say "he can't be with X girlfriend because he is married to Louis", referring to Louis as his husband, celebrating a supposed wedding anniversary etc etc. We do it all the time. As for it being a blow from the other side, forgive me but that is just nonsense. The 'other side' want to keep him firmly in the closet. How would someone outing him possibly benefit them?
Some people should think and take a step back . They should think about how they would feel if people said something about them that was or was not true. How would they feel if what ever it was started being said when it was theirs to own. 💜💙💚💜💙💚💜
I fully agree with you, but that's not the point that some of us are trying to make.
How do we know why he (Beau) said what he said? Many of us are just assuming it's for clout or out of malice. However it could have just been an accident, or he may have been asked by someone (even by Harry) to do it. He could have done it as fight against closeting
We don't know the guys motives so we shouldn't condemn until we do.
Furthermore, we are hypocrites. Every time we say he is gay, he is with Louis, they are boyfriends or married etc, we are outing them. And we are worse than this guy because we had had no confirmation from somone that knows him/them - we are just supposing it from the signs and hints that we think are made to us - but we could be wrong.
Even saying it's his secret to tell is outing him because we are saying that he DOES have the secret to tell, rather than saying if he has a secret, it's for him to tell.
So yes, we do all need to take a step back - but we need to examine ourselves before we examine and criticise others
I don't know him so I google and find this.
Beau Brooks an Australian ex-prankster and singer group.
The best part : Now working as a packing peanuts worker. He still making tik tok. Yes that says a lot🥜
And sure Harry knows it.
Remember this's pride month.🌈
Merci pour cette vidéo. Après qu'es qu'ont s'en fou il aime qui il veut...moi c'est son talent et sa personnalité que j'aime....les gens devraient se regarder avant de parler sur les autres.... Bref 💙💚
It was very wrong of him to do it.
But Louis and Harry are doing it with all of the blue greening and everything else they are doing to show they are together. Or are Louis and Harry playing games with us?
I know it's a bit late now and possibly no one will read this but I would like to ask a couple of questions.
Firstly. Was this podcast a live stream or pre-recorded an uploaded? If the latter, why are we not criticising whoever made/edited the video for not cutting that part out - am rather than just attacking this guy for what he said?
Secondly, why are we not attacking all those who have repeated what he said and /or shared the video/clips, reteeeted etc for further outing Harry by spreading it to other people who may otherwise not have seen it?
I wonder if Ed will make a statement considering he says he's best friends with H, why wasn't it cut from the conversation, yes we all follow him n Louis and most of us would like them to be together and I would think all of their fans know all about them, but we don't all go making comments and stuff all over the internet, so many friendships could be ruined here and how long now will it be before H has another model shoved in his face, no-one should be talking about anyone's sexuality
Agree with you
I disagree. We do it every day. In comments and in videos - trying to find evidence that a relationship with a woman is a stunt and not real "He can't be with her, he has a husband". Claiming that Harry and Louis are married. Stating that they are spending secret time together, etc etc. I'm not saying that we are wrong when we say that, but it is hypocritical for us to say that we don't make comments all over the internet and attempt to out them.
@@derekhorne8076 I do agree we all make assumptions but I haven't known any of the fans to come outright and mention either one is ' Gay' , I also feel sorry a bit for the people they are put with as the probably do t want to be with them either and people give them a hard time as well, you only have to look at the videos of L N E he was closer to Lou T in pics than E, I don't get that Simon and Modest must have known that the fans accepted them whatever even their security was on their side so why couldn't they just leave them, fans are fans and whatever people throw at us we still will be fans but it's their news to tell not ours
@@user-gu5oi5gn1r Well, I'm sorry, but there are hundreds of messages where people outright say he is gay. Indeed, there is a message from abbyequestrian3349 on this video that starts "We all know Harry is gay and married to Louis..."
I feel sorry for those people that they are put with too - but even by saying that we are still outing them. We don't feel sorry for them solely because of the flack that they receive for being their 'girlfriend' but because we feel they are forced to be together as part of the closeting of Louis and/or Harry. We feel the relationship is not natural or genuine but manufactured in order to hide the sexuality of H/L and the (possible) relationship between them. Therefore, we are still saying that they are gay (not even bi) because we feel sorry for them being in a fake relationship because the guy is with another guy and its all just a sham. We don't have to literally say "he is gay" for the words that we use to still say, imply or convey that he is, or we think he is, not straight and not unlabelled.
Also, saying "it's there news to tell not ours" or "it's Harry's secret to tell not his (Beau's)" says that he HAS a secret to tell (ie that he is gay/bi etc) but just that this guy shouldn't have said it. So ever there, we are still outing him as we are saying he does have that 'secret/news' rather than "IF he has news (a secret) to tell, he should tell it not anyone else". I know people will dismiss that as semantics, but words have meanings and by not using them properly or with thought, we can make unintentional mistakes or slips of the tongue, just as it is possible that this guy might have done. Therefore, I still say, we are not better.
@user-gu5oi5gn1r. I'm sorry but there are hundreds of fans who do it. There is a comment on this video that starts "we all know he's gay and married to Louis".
We feel sorry for those put with him because we believe that the "relationship" is false, forced and manufactured. We think that because we think Harry and/or Louis are gay and in a relationship with each other.
We might also feel sorry for them because of the abuse they receive, but that's not the primary reason. We think that these women are sad because of being forced in fake relationships with gay men (if they were bi we wouldn't feel so sorry because the relationship could still be true).
Therefore, whenever we say we feel sorry for these women in stunts, we are, if you think about, outing Harry (or Louis) because we are imply the relationship is fake because he is gay. We might not say the words, but that is the meaning behind them.
This is such tricky terrain to navigate. No, it is never okay to out somebody, but it is also not okay - in my opinion and speaking as a queer person myself - to constantly use symbols of the queer community but never state clearly whether you are queer or not. Using queer symbolism to the extent that they (both H and L) do would - as a straight person - be appropriation, would be queerbaiting, and is 100% not okay ethically either. We, the interpretive fan community of 'Larries', navigate this territory by making the argument that we perceive their use of queer symbols as the only way they actually *can* communicate (nonverbally) that they are queer and see them operating still, or at least until very, very recently, under circumstances where verbally coming out was in all likelyhood not possible for them (forced closeting in an entertainment industry where the name of the artist is a brand and the public image of the artist is under the control of the brand owner - very often management and/or label and not the artist themselves - basically the world SC wants to go back to - and we don't know which kinds of intimidation practices SC may fall back on to achieve what he wants and get that band -1D - back under his ownership. For all we know, this podcaster could also be someone who was bribed or intimidated by SC to do what he was doing - 'outing' Harry with whatever label and framing H's friend and fellow musician Ed with the betrayal).
Emotionally, coming out is always hard. But in practical terms, coming out as queer as an artist/a celebrity does not have to be complicated. A tweet will do. That's the way that e.g. Zach Sang did it. No need to specify whether you identify as gay/bi/pan unless you identify as any of those and feel comfortable sharing that.
I also think Harry has been misquoted on the unlabelled thing. People magazine started that myth, I think. He states that he's open with friends and family (in the Better Homes and Gardens interview, I think), which implies he does use a label for himself. Yes, he states that ultimately we should move towards a vision of a world where labels aren't necessary any more, but - I hate to burst anyone's bubble - currently, that is not the case yet. In my current place of residence, I can marry a person of the same gender in a state ceremony but not in a church ceremony. A place of work financed by the church can still fire me on grounds of being queer. Opposite-sex married couples where one partner bears a child will automatically have the other partner registered as parent as well. Not so for same-sex couples. I don't choose those labels. Authorities (state, church) thrust them upon me. We are just not there yet in terms of a labelfree society with equal rights for all.
And for what it's worth, being unlabelled would imply to me that you are not straight, which would imply to me that you are indeed queer. But again, as far as I know, Harry actually never said that. He's constantly being misquoted on that.
don’t be hypocrites, we’ve been doing the same thing for more than 10 years, the only difference is that we’re not famous
totally agree with you 100%
I haven't seen or heard this - what was the context? What were they talking about, what was the subject?
I seriously don't.think Ed would do that on harry and I don't think it was his story to tell harry is a very private person and if he wanted to tell the world it was his to tell how dare him out harry like that it should never brought into the conversation I'm so mad and angry I hope harry sues him
People gossip. We all talk about "my sister's boyfriend...." "my mate's girlfriend...." "Mrs Smith at number 25 is up to no good with Mr Jones next door" etc etc. Celebrities are no different to the rest of us. If there is a relationship between Harry and Louis, or if one, the other or both of them are not heterosexual, it will be well known within celebrity circles. It is not Ed's fault, regardless, if someone else has chosen to make public something he has been told - whether as gossip or confidentially.
As for suing, he can't do that. Or more to the point management wouldn't risk it. If he sued for breach of privacy, he would be basically confirming that what was said was true, but just shouldn't have been divulged. If he sued for slander (or libel, I always forget which is which) then a) if he is gay or not heterosexual, he would have to lie in court. b) if the guy was found not guilty, then that would equally out Harry and this time with very little doubt.
This might be a controversial message so, be warned and apologies in advance if anyone gets upset.
Firstly, I would remind everyone that I am a gay man myself and secondly outing someone against their will is abhorrent.
That being said, I want to be fair here. Firstly, we don't know he did this on purpose. It could be he just wasn't thinking because it's an open secret in his industry or a slip of the tongue. Remember the reporter that said "you're obviously with Harry" (or Louis I can't remember which way round it was). Even Harry has slipped up and said "him" instead of "her" when talking about an ideal partner.
Also, for all we know, he may well have been asked to do this. It's unlikely but not impossible. Sometimes, it's easier to "be outed" consensually, than it is to come out (trust me, I know this personally).
Thirdly, are we not hypocrites? Do we not out Harry every time we conjecture or show "proof" that he is with Louis? Or we deny his "relationships" with women claiming he is gay/bi and "married" to Louis?
And if, as Harry says, "it doesn't matter" and we should just accept people for who they are, why does it matter so much to is to proof Larry and for people to constantly yearn for them to come out?
I totally agree with you.
I am pretty sure that “Larry” is not a secret in the music industry.
I remember an interview to Jason Sudeikis when Olivia and Harry rumours started to spread around. He said to the interviewer that if that was the case he was left with Louis Tomilson!
He even got the name wrong and he called Louis Liam so the inter had to correct him saying Louis Tomilson!
But nobody said a word at the time!
I looked for that interview and couldn't find it, I don't feel H would disrespect Louis at all but I did find one where everyone was in a line up and Olivia started moving up the line and H moved away from the line up@@emanuelamarino9068
I agree with you 100%.
So why the double standards?
For me this situation felt like "You toured with H. S. who is obviously (👌) with L.T" too.
I also think that it is well known in the music industry too and for these people it is no longer special but simply "normal"
Whatever that may be.
What I particularly appreciate about your comments is that you hold up a mirror to readers in an incredibly friendly, non-judgmental and clear way.
So, thx Derek.
Well in my country this's not a big deal. We have a new law. Same sex marriage in the pride month. Do you believe it?
Thank you, Derek. You have given us an important reminder about the importance of context before the judgment of another person's remarks. Also, I appreciate your point about Larry speculations. We make assumptions and, in a sense, are "outing" them by speaking in a way that conveys that Larry is real, and we do it all the time. Seems to me we aren't entitled to say much about this.
People use Harry for click bait.... Harry is always being disrespected and I for one am fed up with it. It's his choice to share his queer identities or not. Harry's story is different though as he never got that choice because of Simon, syco and damn modest... Whether he comes out or never does I love and respect him just the same Idngaf who he sleeps with or his sexual bend is that's his business and his alone. I can't wait till he snaps and tells everyone to FO, being nice only lasts so long Harry show us your teeth and let these peasants know you are not one to be messed with!!!
Jeez I hope this doesn’t mean another PR stunt/beard coming up?
This story is literally shut down everywhere except this page
Who is this guy? When was this said?
The man who used to be in pranster and singer group. He's an Australian now works as packing peanuts and doing tik tok.
😂😅 Do you believe him??
@@panneetantinukul5658 It doesn't matter to me either way. I will always love and support all 5 of the boys no matter what. I hope if he is gay that him and LT are still in love
@@kellymcgraw5041 I mean it's the way he can make attentions. That's the way he's making money. No reasons no sources just saying from nothing. Why we care?
@@panneetantinukul5658 exactly
Este tipo.conque derecho se mete en la vida privada de harry que falta se respeto 😮😮
We all know Harry is gay and married to Louis we all know that and Beau saying he is gay is real and true but if the person who’s sexuality and relationship is not aloud to say it yet than that is not okay. But what Beau said it was the truth and honestly in my opinion Harry is actually friends with Beau and probably was okay with him saying that because he is sick of people not believing in him that he needs his friend to back him up and he was probs asked to do this tbh! WE SUPPORT YOU HARRY AND LOUIS! 💚💚💚💙💙💙
No. We don’t know that harry’s gay, some people assume that he’s gay but if you ask most larries they’ll just tell you that he’s unlabled and that completely okay. Why choose a sexuality for him? He might be bisexual, he might be even straight and he might be other things. He hasn’t came out yet and till he actually does we have no right to say that he’s gay as if it’s a fact
@@user-tt8mb7vx4s Then why do most of us post messages about "this year he will come out" or "he's with his husband" or "he can't be with x beard because he is with Louis" etc etc. Yes, many of us accept that he might be bisexual, or anything else, rather than just gay and you may be right in saying that we shouldn't say that he is gay, married or anything else as if it is a fact when its only our supposition, however, many, if not most of us, do do that therefore we are just as bad.
@@derekhorne8076 honestly, in the past I did that quite often yet I’ve already stopped since I’ve realized that it’s disrespectful. I prefer to believe that they’re together without forcing them to be together, yk? And I’ve accepted the fact that there’s a high chance that they aren’t together and calling them boyfriends is just wrong. Im usually a very quiet fan, I just express my opinion on some videos without calling them husbands or saying that they’re together because I believe that they are, but they might not and that’s none of my business. I think that shipping them doesn’t mean that I find them gay, I dont usually think about people’s sexualities and I respect the fact that harry said that he’s unlabled.
@@user-tt8mb7vx4s Hmm, to me it's a question of semantics. I know what you are saying and to an extent I can agree with you. However, I don't think it's disrespectful to say that might be together, or they possibly are together or they might be gay/bi etc. What is wrong is stating it as fact when we don't know it is. Yes, I think that calling them boyfriends or husbands is wrong. We might believe that they are, there might be many signs or hints that they are, but until it is confirmed by them, we don't know for certain so still could be wrong.
I actually find the whole shipping thing more disrespectful. Shipping is fine for fictional characters in a film or a tv series or something, but when it comes to real people, with real lives, it's just plain wrong. It's one thing to think that two people would make a great couple, but when it comes to fictionalising the lives of two people (in this case Harry and Louis), I actually find that to be just as bad as stunt relationships - it's the same people. Projecting a false life, or story, on to real people.