Netflix hit every nail on the head with the miniseries...focused on the gross neglect from the police dept at that time, which sets the tone of why Jeff was able to go on for as long as he did..
Glenda Cleveland did not live in the Oxford Apartment building. She also never met Jeffrey Dahmer. Her daughters found Konerak Sinthasomphone and she called the police following up on him. That was all. Everything else was made up by Netflix. No sandwich. No noise complaints. And as far as the police go, no they fucked up big time. He was a convicted child sex offender and they didn't even look into it. They also never made racist phone calls to the victims family But Glenda Cleveland did not live in his building. People say, "how could they not listen to her?" Well, she called asking about Konerak, but she didn't say anything about Dahmer because she never even knew him. Dahmer's neighbors liked him. If you ask me, that's a better story than what Netflix made up. They made Cleveland's depiction to create an antagonist and to stir the pot. In reality her character didn't exist. His neighbors liked him and were all surprised by the things he did.
Not all of Dahmer's victims were homosexual Dahmer (who is homosexual) murdered the hitchhiker Steven Hicks (who is straight) A homosexual MURDERED a straight guy But the media ofcourse tries to ignore that fact and only focus on anything that pushes a pro-lgbtq and anti-white narrative
If anything this series does justice for the people affected and points out how bad law enforcement looked after the community. Its alot deeper than just Dahmer.
I thought so as well. Also captures the still horrific child custody and divorce system. Seems to have always sided with mothers and stuck it to the fathers no matter how batshit the mother is.
I agree , I’m happy that they concentrated on the victims families and the effect it had on everyone , Peoples calls for help went ignored by the police, shame on them
This show made depressed to actually know that this happened, I wanted to just cry for the 14 year old that was handed back into this monster because of the negligence of those cops.
@@creamyburrito DON'T YOU DARE! There's NO excuse for those rotten cops to have NOT done their jobs. That child LITERALLY HAD someone speaking up for him. Ms. Glenda and her daughters were PLEADING with those cops to take a closer look at that boy. But the cops' bigotry and negligent ignorance got that boy murdered. NOT... AND I REPEAT...It was NOT because he wasn't able to speak for himself. He had voices speaking for him. They just weren't heard, because the voices came from black mouths, and fell upon white racist homophobic ears. THATS what happened that night. And there's LITERALLY a 911 phone call from that beautiful, wonderful, concerned lady, who called to check on that child's welfare. And she was brushed off as a burden and a nuisance. I know, TO YOU, you were just merely responding. But your response to the context of the OP implied that him being vocally incapacitated was the reason. And that factor is redundant, because he was sent an angel to speak up for him. And that night evil prevailed. And it does on many days and nights. That's the real world we live in. Whether you've experienced it or not.
My question is how the hell did the police not notice the hole in this kids head after Dahmer drilled his head open and poured in acid. And how was the kid not in pain?!
Those cops had to be completely clueless cause they actually helped him bring one of his victims back into his apartment & wasn't alarmed by the smell smh.
Um I think you need to do more research because those cops definitely did help Dahmer escort Konerak Sinthasomphone back into his apartment Dahmer says himself he showed them pictures that he had taken of Konerak a 14 year old boy and brother of another boy he was Currently on probation for molesting brother had they done there Jobs right they would have seen he was a convicted child molester the cops were racist and homophobic talking about needed to get deloused at the station on there police radio because they were scared of catching AIDS from being inside dahmers apartment it's public information you can look it up why lie now?
@FJB wow, those people were not all black or gay, he killed, had sex with and ate a variety of races. He got special treatment from the police, and the criminal justice system here in Milwaukee… he started this killing in Bath Ohio. Had he been treated like anyone else, many of the victims would be living.
It’s chilling to hear the owner of the store say he pointed out the young employee to deliver his tank, he might’ve been one of his victims as well if he hadn’t got caught when he did
its a story that he likely made up after the fact based on the one who almost got away. Thats why hearsay and testimony such as this dont make it into the courtroom.People imagine all kinds of things and then convince themselves that it actually happened
@@travisgoesthereyeah and dahmer isn't dumb enough to not know that he would be an suspect if the Asian boy goes missing coincidentally after delivering the fishes to dahmer himself..
@@IdkIdk-gt2ejso if he was so smart why did he end up killing the 14 year old Konerak AFTER the police escorted the teen back into his apartment? So he wasn’t smart enough to think that since they returned this boy maybe I shouldn’t kill him because my apartment would have been the last place he was seen alive? I don’t think Dahmer was as smart as you think he was. He was just lucky and the fact that he was a unassuming white man worked in his favor
The show made him seem like he carried himself as a twisted, creepy man but he was actually the opposite & appeared normal to the public. It was why he was able to stay under radar for so long
I see some people complaining about the Jeffrey Dohmer movie and how Netflix trying to "make money" off this tragedy. That's what television, movies, etc. is about. Watch it or don't watch it. I will say I watched it and they did a VERY good job of portraying the victims as real people, with families, etc. It was very heartbreaking but I feel it also gave the victims a voice.
Idk why but when the reporter said "or closure" that was so genuine. I couldn't imagine the trauma this series brings back for the people who had to live it.
Yes it’s a Potawatomi, I’m from the Mohawk nation and have family in Oneida north east of Milwaukee, it’s means “ rich beautiful earth” in their nations language
Oooh let me tell you...BAD KARMA that he created (his actions)KARMA will NEVER get tired of paying Jeffery back...never...Now...in Buddhism?...will explain it better...than i can... I Promise you...
Netflix is just pointing out what needs to change that way it doesn’t happen again. Yes it’s painful for the victims and as a horror fan it was very disturbing to me. But it sheds light on what is wrong and still wrong in todays society. Equal rights.
I've always been very interested in Dahmer. Idk why but for some reason I was always drawn to reading about him and his case / victims.. but this new show taught me so much I did not know about how the police mishandled this case and the back stories on the victims. It was really well done.
You should listen to the Last Podcast on the left, they go into great detail on all sorts of True crime story’s. Not only the killers but also the police negligence. A lot of the big time serial killers were caught by mistake.. pretty interesting
If you like that, then you should also watch 'My Friend Dahmer'. It was written by an actual classmate, and shows how Jeff was, in school. It shows his background, and how the kids abused and used him to make money. It also shows his family background, his relationship with his dad, and how much of a dingbat his mom was. It shows everything up to his first murder.
Yeah it's fascinating to me, I am 20 years old and about 10 houses away from me in Salt Lake city Ted Bundy was arrested for the first time in his life on Burglary charges which eventually led to his conviction of kid napping, because the beautiful girl got away. SO LUCKY 🍀
Not all of Dahmer's victims were homosexual Dahmer (who is homosexual) murdered the hitchhiker Steven Hicks (who is straight) A homosexual MURDERED a straight guy But the media ofcourse tries to ignore that fact and only focus on anything that pushes a pro-lgbtq and anti-white narrative
@@puurrrr it’s not disrespectful at all, they can feel disrespected sure, but the murders weren’t committed in a vacuum, everyone has a right to know what happened.
@@StevenP726 agreed, if it's only Milwaukee Wisconsin or Ohio states that knew, how would other people know what happened from that tragic fates of those 17 lives that were taken, it should let people be aware about a wolf in a sheep's clothing, like Jeff D who once existed in this cruel world. Jeff might looked very nice guy but it's just a disguise.
Watching the Netflix series and learning about Jeffrey Dahmer had my emotions all over. I feel sad for the victims and Dahmer. I ended up reading many articles on the background of Dahmer to get a better understanding of his upbringing and childhood. I know we can’t always blame a persons actions or lack thereof on their upbringing however, how you were raised and the environment you were raised in matters. Now, I don’t know how much of the series was all true facts and what parts were for entertainment, but it seemed like Dahmer tried to tell his dad about his fantasies and that something was wrong with himself, and like some parents do, his dad blew him off, and tried to fix him by sending him to Ohio State University! I guess his dad didn’t want to believe what his son was going through was what he too went through as a young man. In the series Dahmer’s father told his new wife that when he was a young man, he also fantasized about killing people…Smh. Dahmer’s father should have listened to his son when he tried to confess. And off topic, why would you allow your son dissect dead roadkill? That’s not normal at all… Dissecting in a science class is a lot different then doing it in your garage. Then you allow him to use acid to dissolve the bones, definitely Not normal. Dahmer’s mom on the other hand never seemed to be present with Jeffrey and it seems like she neglected him a lot. Apparently, she was on tons of medication when she was pregnant with Jeffrey… and attempted suicide. It seemed like He had no guidance from his parents and no one to truly love him, or show him how to communicate. They were too busy worrying about themselves. It’s funny how Dahmer’s father tried to blame everything on Jeffery’s mom and how he turned out. His dad wasn’t present in Jeffrey’s life either. I see a lot of red flags in their family. There’s only a few people that can turn into decent useful human beings after being raised in such a household like the Dahmer’s. I hope the victims and their family’s have found peace in all of this!!
I’m curious whether U have seen his father’s interview and there’s few of them , I dont blame the father , there’s lots of family much worse upbringing and yet they don’t end up murdering people
@@malpete Each person has a different set of genetic and environmental factors at play so don't expect everyone to have the same response to traumatic situations. Defense mechanims vary greatly with each person.
Can't imagine the pain and anger the families felt then and today. 💔💔💔 Poor victims. The police let every single one of them down. Many of the victims could have been saved had they done their jobs right. 😢
@@lili-fp4mc Not true in the least. The police were the ones who arrested him, remember? Going to a strangers home to drink and take erotic photos is a dumb choice. All of victims for the most part went willingly back to his home. If they said no, they would be alive but their lust got the best of them. The police are not he blame, so laughable
@@nymike06 not you victim blaming and yes, they arrested him but it was too late. 17 victims were DEAD. if the police had acted faster, they would be saving some lives lmao
@@nymike06 and maybe try looking in the bigger picture on why 17 victims went to his house? maybe it's because the victims were lured into his house LOL.
I think what keeps us coming back to true crime docs/shows/etc is that we think we will finally find the answer. The grand “why.” It’s the why that we so desperately want to find out. Why does a person do what they do? No matter how many stand points in psychology we have, it answers so much, yet nothing at all. Edit: What I mean by “yet nothing at all” is it feels absolutely impossible to wrap your brain around the unhinged violence, no matter how much more we continue to learn. I have massive amounts of respect for science and psychology, and find these things to be extremely fascinating like everyone else who loves true crime. But it will always be something I don’t think we will ever truly fully understand no matter how many answers we have. There are explanations behind why a person does what they do, but to carry through with it is just something completely unimaginable.
Yeah but I think it did a fantastic job of revealing the why. Dahmer was likely born with the potential for APD, and events in his early childhood and adolescence cemented the APD and other personality disorder(s). Constant instability and neglect molded what probably would have been a somewhat odd person, into a deranged monster. Ills of society made it easy to get away with, to become a habit. We have a decent picture of the why, minus exactly how one’s brain begins with this potential in the first place.
@@austingoyne3039 No I totally get that, and we have really come so far with advancements in mental illness/science. But no matter how much we find out and continue to learn, it’s still hard to completely wrap your brain around the completely unhinged. It feels impossible to fully understand it.
@@mbg140897 Be grateful that you don't understand it. It's a deep, twisted, dark place that you _don't_ want your bran to be able to intimately understand.
I was surprised they put this series out on Netflix recently because I was old enough to know about Dahmer at the time when he was killing. And I remember when he got killed in prison, that was front page news. But this series is more for the new generation that wasn't around when he was creating terror in Milwaukee during that time. And this is the first time a series or show sheds some light on how Police don't always do their jobs, because police are shown as heroes and that's definitely not true!! lol So many bad police out there and corrupt police. Especially in the black communities where all of this was taking place.
I actually feel bad for him. I work psych and it has been life changing, it’s changed the way I think of people and mental illnesses. It’s given me awareness that not everyone is born the same. Yes, I feel like he was manipulative, he did evil things, and maybe he is only showing some remorse or empathy because he was caught. But I do believe him. He didn’t really have any reason to lie about why he did what he did by the end of it. I don’t believe anyone is born evil, but every psych patient I’ve met was there due to something that happened to them in the past or the environment they were raised in. It wasn’t entirely the cause of why they tried to commit suicide or hurt someone else, but I have learned that it all contributes somehow when I talk to them from a place of no judgment. My mom and dad divorced when I was very young, I saw them fighting and aggressive when I was a young child too. My mom basically abandoned me leaving my dad to raise me with my grandmother. Substance abuse and mental health definitely played a role in her abandonment. But I had grandma and dad present and they instilled love into me and who knows where I would be without that. I know he says it’s not the blame of his parents or society but I do believe it affects you a lot. It is still affecting me today in ways I don’t even realize. What he did was horrible, he absolutely deserved to be locked up. But it also sounds like a serious case of OCD and obsessions, fixations, and he was also diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. That’s a tricky one. I am so sorry for all of the victims and their families as well. What Jeffrey done was evil and there is no doubt about that. Thankful for this series because it wasn’t just about jeff, it also shows the influences of society and makes us realize some deep issues in America that need to be brought to the surface. Cops don’t listen to minorities. Racism is very much still alive. The fact that he was able to go on with these killings for so long because no one stopped to think “hey, my kid isn’t normal, maybe we should see about his mental health” or because people simply didn’t want to be around gays and minorities and believed them to be lesser. My heart also breaks for the 14 year old boy. And the deaf man, Tony Hughes. It is obvious Jeffrey experienced remorse. Although he doesn’t outright say it and it is hard to gather that from his actions, he stopped for almost a decade. He knew he wasn’t normal. He described killing them as the worst part. Bipolar was a big reason behind his killings, due to a deep rooted fear of abandonment. I hope we can learn from this. I hope we can learn to not dismiss our children’s concerns and to listen to them no matter how much we want to believe there is not a problem. I hope we learn that mental health issues are real and everyone is struggling. I hope that minorities are listened to and heard one day instead of being ignored for the color of their skin or their sexual preferences. I hope problems aren’t dismissed due to white privilegeThere is no good and bad, not everything is black and white. I also pray for peace of the families and hope they find some form of comfort. I also hope Jeffrey’s family finds some comfort, I imagine it must be hard to find this out about your child one day and wake up every day wondering if it’s your fault your kid turned out to be a serial killer. Can’t imagine the guilt or the pain that comes from this. This case is heart breaking all around.
i hate when traumatic true stories are turned into entertainment ...always think of like scream .imagine being the mother of the girl and seeing commercials on tv and people talking about how excited they are to see a movie that's about your childs brutual murder ... why am i only one talking about things like this??? i realized this on my own as a young child ..get it togther people
naturally, eerie and weird behavior makes humans curious as to “why” certain things have happened. i don’t think that these shows are necessarily for entertainment; but for recognition of facts. the cops were both phobic of people of color and homosexuals. even so, humans will naturally want to know HOW and WHY these people commit crimes. ultimately, we’ll never know. but, what i know for sure is that i certainly felt uncomfortable and wanted to stop watching the new series at times (due to incredible research and acting).. but i also wanted to see a closer look at the victimizers mindset. it’s science. some people may be more sensitive to factual events in history and others are curious to prevent history from repeating. it’s wild.
Ppl said Ted Bundy was attractive... me personally, I think Jeffrey Dahmer was more attractive than Ted.... strictly talking about their looks... not talking about their evil acts of hatred.
The only thing about the show is they portrayed Dahmer as some super awkward, disconnected person which he was not. He was charismatic, charming, intelligent, and well groomed. He was a functioning alcoholic. If he was as weird as he was in the show, in real life then I don’t believe he would’ve been able to lure as many of those poor young men.
I feel like moments in the series show glimpses of his charm, it does show his evolution with picking up men, how he must have gotten some ‘game’ over time
He was actually very awkward though, and most people would think he was weird, just not in any sort of creepy way. It wasn't charisma and charm at all, it was just his shy demeanor could be seen as sweet and attractive, if you're a gay man meeting him at the club. And yeah he was definitely clean-cut with the type of clothes he wore, his big dorky glasses, and his whole nerdy look. That was seen as endearing and cute by many of those guys, looking at him there was nothing to be scared of.
@@earthangel6858 some victim accounts say he didn’t seem weird until he got them to the apartment and that’s when he starting acting odd, chanting and what not.
@FJB They kill innocent people too. They kill unarmed children. They kill unarmed adults. They hit their wives, they ignore crimes just like those cops let Dahmer kill a 14 year old boy.
The absence of the mother on most of the times and also both of his parents didn’t really had any good communication at all with him , i think that’s how he developed a mind like that , that’s going to continue to happen if parents are absent most of the time…
Fact: Tracy Edwards, the last victim who escaped assaulted a 14 yo girl and in 2011 was convicted of homicide of a fellow homeless guy. sad how Dahmer affected his life
@La Vérité yes. Unfortunately he wasnt able to move on and live a normal life after what happened. ended up fucking his and other lives as well...its usually a cycle for those who lived in trauma and abuse
Something interesting that gets mentioned in the book "The Shrine of Jeffrey Dahmer", regarding his fish tank: Jeffrey Dahmer was very fascinated by pufferfish as he maintained his aquarium, and he was also was hoping to make human zombies by injecting boiling water and acid in some of his victims' brains. Coincidentally, Haitian voodoo priests made a poison using toxins found in pufferish that causes paralysis and puts people in a zombie-like state. It's an interesting little observation, Dahmer probably did not know this about pufferfish.
That is correct ✅ I was also told about that being one of many ways u can zombify someone … I’m blessed to have Parent(s) who fed me the poison as a baby for protection so that I wouldn’t/couldn’t be zombified by witches/monsters (Jab) who preyed on babies during that time ~91
What disgusting why the cops who failed their job still have all the freedom, and all the good people like Glenda who living in hell trying to fight for all the victim. I am so sad for her.
I was 11, 12 13, 14 throughout the Jeff Dahmer experience.. It was horrific watching it everyday but I'm fascinated by him and that's not uncommon That's a very human thing to be.
I'm one of the people who couldn't get through the first episode. It wasn't because of gore but the performances...they were just too good. I felt such fear as the lead actor threatened his victim...I was just too scared to watch on.
Ok but he didn't target gay people only!! The 14 year old kid wasn't gay, his first victim wasn't gay and the guy that got away wasn't guy. He said it him self.... if he thought you were beautiful you were probably going to die 🥴
Right. He tricked many men and boys over his place by asking them to come pose for pictures for money , then offered them a drink and they were out, gay or not gay. Such a sick man
@@carolinarodriguez8553 Yeah most of the victims were gay because he found them at the gay bars he went to. But some weren't...because yeah he was gay and found many men attractive, without regard to their own sexuality. His first victim wasn't gay. Konerak wasn't gay, I think a few others as well.
One of the cop John Balcerzak who handed the kid back to Dahmer, was later elected as president of Milwaukee police department. No wonder they say God bless America.
1:00 that is so weird. That should’ve been a red flag. Who tf requests who delivers for them and especially it being a child. So many people, not just the police failed all of the victims. May they all RIP
naturally, eerie and weird behavior makes humans curious as to “why” certain things have happened. i don’t think that these shows are necessarily for entertainment; but for recognition of facts. the cops were both phobic of people of color and homosexuals. even so, humans will naturally want to know HOW and WHY these people commit crimes. ultimately, we’ll never know. but, what i know for sure is that i certainly felt uncomfortable and wanted to stop watching the new series at times (due to incredible research and acting).. but i also wanted to see a closer look at the victimizers mindset. it’s science. some people may be more sensitive to factual events in history and others are curious to prevent history from repeating. it’s wild.
I thought it was an amazing show; the directing, the acting (all of the actors were phenomenal), the writing and the structure were all top notch. They didn't just focus on Dahmer, they focused on the victims, the families, the politics, the pathetic police and father and mother... I mean it is a pheromonal show IMO>
I’m glad that fish shop owner didn’t have that young man deliver that fish tank to his apartment. More than likely Dahmer had ideas of him being a victim.
No Netflix is shining a light on the victims the families and the neighbor who endure his timing of crimes..im glad Netflix did it! Also his Narcissistic father who people were sorry for on Oprah show in 1994 also was exposed people were calling him a sweet old man no I honestly believed he molested Jeff then try to capitalize off of Jeff’s murders and the father has NOT one time in interviews or in his book felt any remorse for the victims and their families
@@dr.aliadixonnursepractitio6473 You know and right now this documentary about Jeffrey Dahmer is number one on Netflix you got a lot of idiots watching this s*** while the victims who are alive are suffering
@@dr.aliadixonnursepractitio6473 But if you think about it they're doing a real life with people who like wanna die and they keep them alive for the profit
Netflix was not the only production to show the gross and ill acts he used to do but for some reason Netflix has this lens that seems to make people notice things that were already public knowledge and it's like they ignored the information on RUclips and other films made about him
My 'girlfriend' Beth kept bugging me for a joint I didn't have, so I told her I'd go out and see what I could find for her... and me too. I found Jeffrey Dahmer on the corner of Juneau and Farwell. I had worked washing dishes and serving coffee at The Knickerbocker Hotel Pharmacy right nearby that location. Though he was standing there looking all around, and also looking 'smiley weird', I thought he was just out there looking to sell some of his weed. When I asked him he said, "I only have one joint left and it's over in my apartment by Marquette University. I'll just smoke it with you. You can even light it and take the first two hits off it. I'll take some after that and let you keep the roach for your girlfriend. I thought it was better than nothing so I started walking off with him... I am a skinny guy and Jeffrey Dahmer towered about a foot above my head and he 'had meat on me'. I kept feeling a strange feeling while walking with him. He didn't do any of the talking at all. But he did constantly stare down at me 'hungrily', he wasn't even looking where he was stepping. Who does that, I must ask. Well, at first I thought he was just trying to intimidate me , and that he would probably start some farcical contrived fist fight over nothing just so he could 'kick my butt' later when we got to his place. I assumed he was just another bully I'd have to watch my words with when we conversed together. Then he stared looking very creepy in the face and specially his eyes, or rather 'creepier' than what he had been looking already. Mama didn't raise a fool, but just the opposite. It wasn't worth walking the 5 or 6 more blocks we still needed to go, so I just said, "You know what, I think I'll just pass on the joint and tell her I couldn't find any. I'm pretty tired. I'm just going to go back home and go to bed early. Hey, I'll see ya around later sometime, okay?" He didn't like hearing that at all. He grew very, very angry at me and said, "NO! You're coming with me because you said you would! I need somebody to talk to tonight!!" Then he unexpectedly grabbed my left arm by the wrist very, very tightly(He was very strong, I'll give him that much). He wouldn't let go. I started punching on his arm where he was holding me hoping to break the guy's lock, but failed miserably. He got very angry about that and raised his arm and hit me on top of the head hard and was threatening to do it again. I said, "OKAY! OKAY!!...I'M SORRY!!" I got scared. I knew he was probably insane right then. I also grew very wise... I had to. I then realized that I had to lull him into a form of 'complacency' somehow so I could break free. Nobody was around except for an old couple far across the street walking the other way. They looked like they were hurrying to get somewhere. It was just after dusk and growing darker by the minute. I let him 'escort' me for another block and a half while relaxing my arm instead of puling it. Finally it worked. He either trusted I wouldn't try to break free or just grew tired of clenching my wrist tightly. He let up his grip just enough for me to suddenly pull away and flee about 15 feet away from him. He came right after me. I ran a little ways with him running after me. I saw something that I can't exactly remember what right now, I think it was a quart malt liquor bottle, but it might have been a piece of two by four. I think it was both maybe. I threatened him with whatever it was and eventually he gave up. But then, stupid youthful me, when I called him a "lunatic" it got him very mad. He ran right for me with a demented look on his face. I started running away as fast as I could and finally got right back to where we had met. Where there were street lights, too. There were some people all around now. I yelled "POLICE" and it got there attention. He just turned around and walked away like nothing had even happened. I went back to my apartment and didn't think that much about it except having avoided a street fight. That was in Milwaukee in 1981, maybe 1982... Well, years and years down the road when they had finally captured him I was now in Glendale, CA working graveyard shift as a desk clerk 3 nights a week. When I arrived to work that night they had the news on the tv in the lobby. He had suddenly appeared with detectives escorting him like he had escorted me in Milwaukee that one evening. I took one look at the face to see who this 'cannibal' was and almost passed out. My knees actually buckled because I had forgotten I even had knees at all. It was THAT GUY!!! Only then did I learn how lucky I had been. I'd swear in court with my left hand on a Holy Bible and my right hand raised that it was him, Jeffrey Dahmer, and this is all what had happened, too. GOD KNOWS... Crazy world out there people. I'd learn how to defend myself if I were you, or at least be concerned regarding strangers who act 'friendly, but a little bit weird'. Your 'spirit' and your 'intuition' are your best defenses in many 'questionable' situations though. Mine kept yelling "HARK!", but I had ignored it a few times only so that I could go smoke some pot and also get a stupid roach for pretty, little Beth to have as her gift later when she came back to pester me again. I'll tell ya, sometimes being 'in love' can get a guy killed.
Were the police officers involved ever disciplined? Were the police officers ever caught & disciplined for making harassing calls to the Asian family? Did anyone reporting the story in Milwaukee ever interview the lady who lived next door to Dahmer? Was a memorial ever built in the place of the apartment building in memory of the victims? Please respond.
Nope! One was actually Promoted to police chief it pisses me off. Cops can just get away with shit like this, be responsible for murder and still get promoted it’s so fucked
I live no where near Milwaukee and trust me I have no desire to watch it. Have we really fallen that far from grace that we need to traumatizes the families that lost their loved ones in the name of entertainment? I thought that the Ted Bundy movie was disgusting and hopefully a one off type situation ... the whole concept making a movie about people that sick and perverse shows just how far down the rabbit hole we've fallen. Where is our compassion and reverence for those that have suffered because of them. I think there is a movie based on John Wayne Gacy as well...Really!!??
You are so right. I will not be watching this show. I watched the victim impact statements instead and my prayers and thoughts are with them and their families.
I understand that, but I think what Netflix tried to do is finally make a movie/series based on a murderer that finally directly shows the victim's life as individuals and not just numbers, how it impacted their families and how the police failed. So even though it's unnecessairy, maybe it will kind of "revolutionize" the true crime media and inspire future works to do the same, they would all be much more interesting
No one, victim's families included, is being forced to watch this show or any other movie/doc/series about a serial killer. Don't press play if you don't want to watch. It's really just that simple. I thought the series was well done and detailed concerning Dahmer and all of those poor young men and boys that he murdered. Evan Peters did an excellent job. Heart wrenching.
Jeff was just sick. He should have gotten caught a long time when things were odd. I didn’t like the Netflix series. His father did not molest him I don’t believe one second his dad was when finding this out was shocked and trying to help his son. Yeah his mother had health issues but they didn’t expect him to come out the way he became to be Milwaukee Cannibalism. What I’m saying is Jeff isn’t the worst there are lot more people out there that are killers and that act smug about it. Jeff took responsibility for what he did and admitted it. Yeah if you don’t like what I have to say then don’t comment I’m giving my opinion. I have some what of remorse for Jeff and his family. And he didn’t deserve to be killed like that either no one does. I normally don’t have remorse for all of killers but him I do and I can’t help it but I do because he was sick man it’s sad he turned out that way. The worst thing of this case is the 14 year old boy and the police laughed about it so I blame them for not doing there jobs correctly when they had to know things weren’t right.
Im so tired of these dam shower conversion ads, it makes me never want to watch anything online. Its sickening. Hell a bathtub is extremely superior to a shower. PLEASE CUT THESE ADS OUT. THEY ARE SICKENING TOO MANY
What I noticed most throughout the series and to a similar degree in real life interviews of those surrounding the case, was how everyone involved felt guilty of not doing enough.
It must have been doubly traumatic for Milwaukee area gays,et al.A gay serial killer-and AIDS being so stigmatized at the time.Then,not long after,there was the Matthew Shepard case in Wyoming.Even nowadays it still can't be easy for LGBTQ(or whatever the latest acronym is) people.The fact that there's so much drama over trans people nowadays is ludicrous.It's nothing new,and no big fucking deal.
Same way I feel about "Roots"...the mini-series regarding slavery...didn't, won't, never WILL watch. Been there, done that, LIVING the legacy. I get it.
Well thankfully you never actually been there or done that but I get what you mean. Watching this show was so crazy cause you are experiencing something so disturbing it’s hard to imagine it was ever real, same w Roots.
@@Tiy51 I wanted to "quickly" make my point, so now I'll take the time to address yours. By been there, done that, living the legacy....I meant "our lives are the same" in that our destiny "remains" controlled by those believing they're superior. That....is my legacy. Whips, chains,segregation, institutional rape,etc., may be "modernized", but the effect remains. Finally, one doesn't have to experience the perils of space travel to comprehend how we got to the moon.
The comparison between Dahmer and Roots is actually quite valid and apt. I really believe that Dahmer was heavily influenced in the way he treated black people by the abhorrent history of slavery in his country.
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amazing, there have been plenty of documentaries and movies about serial killers with no issue, because this one has to do with black homosexuals suddenly its a big deal.
I.v watch it and if it true about the two police that let Dahmer take that 14 year old boy back into Dahmer apartment the police should of been charge with it
Netflix hit every nail on the head with the miniseries...focused on the gross neglect from the police dept at that time, which sets the tone of why Jeff was able to go on for as long as he did..
Glenda Cleveland did not live in the Oxford Apartment building. She also never met Jeffrey Dahmer. Her daughters found Konerak Sinthasomphone and she called the police following up on him. That was all. Everything else was made up by Netflix. No sandwich. No noise complaints.
And as far as the police go, no they fucked up big time. He was a convicted child sex offender and they didn't even look into it. They also never made racist phone calls to the victims family
But Glenda Cleveland did not live in his building. People say, "how could they not listen to her?" Well, she called asking about Konerak, but she didn't say anything about Dahmer because she never even knew him.
Dahmer's neighbors liked him. If you ask me, that's a better story than what Netflix made up. They made Cleveland's depiction to create an antagonist and to stir the pot.
In reality her character didn't exist. His neighbors liked him and were all surprised by the things he did.
💯 👍
This series is creepy..It broke me when they showed how he destroyed the deff guys family
Not all of Dahmer's victims were homosexual
Dahmer (who is homosexual) murdered the hitchhiker Steven Hicks (who is straight)
A homosexual MURDERED a straight guy
But the media ofcourse tries to ignore that fact and only focus on anything that pushes a pro-lgbtq and anti-white narrative
Yeah those cops are just as bad as Dahmer but unlike Dahmer they didn't have to pay for their crimes smh
If anything this series does justice for the people affected and points out how bad law enforcement looked after the community. Its alot deeper than just Dahmer.
I thought so as well. Also captures the still horrific child custody and divorce system. Seems to have always sided with mothers and stuck it to the fathers no matter how batshit the mother is.
I agree , I’m happy that they concentrated on the victims families and the effect it had on everyone , Peoples calls for help went ignored by the police, shame on them
I assume it’s because of the low socioeconomic area that police couldn’t be bothered
Yep
@@MelaniaRose yet liberals say they are overpoliced. That’s why they have so much crime. You can’t have it both ways.
This show made depressed to actually know that this happened, I wanted to just cry for the 14 year old that was handed back into this monster because of the negligence of those cops.
He couldn’t communicate to the cops he needed help because of the acid poured in his brain, i wanted to cry too
@@creamyburrito DON'T YOU DARE!
There's NO excuse for those rotten cops to have NOT done their jobs. That child LITERALLY HAD someone speaking up for him. Ms. Glenda and her daughters were PLEADING with those cops to take a closer look at that boy. But the cops' bigotry and negligent ignorance got that boy murdered. NOT... AND I REPEAT...It was NOT because he wasn't able to speak for himself. He had voices speaking for him. They just weren't heard, because the voices came from black mouths, and fell upon white racist homophobic ears. THATS what happened that night.
And there's LITERALLY a 911 phone call from that beautiful, wonderful, concerned lady, who called to check on that child's welfare. And she was brushed off as a burden and a nuisance.
I know, TO YOU, you were just merely responding. But your response to the context of the OP implied that him being vocally incapacitated was the reason. And that factor is redundant, because he was sent an angel to speak up for him. And that night evil prevailed. And it does on many days and nights. That's the real world we live in. Whether you've experienced it or not.
My question is how the hell did the police not notice the hole in this kids head after Dahmer drilled his head open and poured in acid. And how was the kid not in pain?!
@@wadewilson8011 didnt say it was! look at my comment below, lmao so sssumtious and rash. haste makes waste look at all those characters wasted
@@wadewilson8011 Learn how to READ.
Those cops had to be completely clueless cause they actually helped him bring one of his victims back into his apartment & wasn't alarmed by the smell smh.
Um I think you need to do more research because those cops definitely did help Dahmer escort Konerak Sinthasomphone back into his apartment Dahmer says himself he showed them pictures that he had taken of Konerak a 14 year old boy and brother of another boy he was Currently on probation for molesting brother had they done there Jobs right they would have seen he was a convicted child molester the cops were racist and homophobic talking about needed to get deloused at the station on there police radio because they were scared of catching AIDS from being inside dahmers apartment it's public information you can look it up why lie now?
@FJB yes they did the body was on the other side of the bed just out of eyes view
White privilege in a minority poverty stricken community
@FJB you are making up stuff Dahmer himself also said they did in his documentary as well 🧐
@FJB wow, those people were not all black or gay, he killed, had sex with and ate a variety of races.
He got special treatment from the police, and the criminal justice system here in Milwaukee… he started this killing in Bath Ohio. Had he been treated like anyone else, many of the victims would be living.
It’s chilling to hear the owner of the store say he pointed out the young employee to deliver his tank, he might’ve been one of his victims as well if he hadn’t got caught when he did
its a story that he likely made up after the fact based on the one who almost got away. Thats why hearsay and testimony such as this dont make it into the courtroom.People imagine all kinds of things and then convince themselves that it actually happened
@@travisgoesthereyeah and dahmer isn't dumb enough to not know that he would be an suspect if the Asian boy goes missing coincidentally after delivering the fishes to dahmer himself..
@@travisgoesthereTravis tell like it is! It just something he made up after the fact. They probably paid him to say that😂
@@IdkIdk-gt2ejso if he was so smart why did he end up killing the 14 year old Konerak AFTER the police escorted the teen back into his apartment? So he wasn’t smart enough to think that since they returned this boy maybe I shouldn’t kill him because my apartment would have been the last place he was seen alive? I don’t think Dahmer was as smart as you think he was. He was just lucky and the fact that he was a unassuming white man worked in his favor
@@blkcoverboy1049he had already abused konerak and had another body in their apartment
The show made him seem like he carried himself as a twisted, creepy man but he was actually the opposite & appeared normal to the public. It was why he was able to stay under radar for so long
No the racism and ignorance of the police is why he was able to kill people. White cops white killers
Don't forget being a white boy in a predominantly minority neighborhood.
@@3x3mm exactly.
@@3x3mm a combo of racism & homophobia.. these victims really never stood a chance.
Ummm actually dahmer was a troubled alcoholic and really was creepy and weird his whole life he was not normal to the public just to racist white cops
I see some people complaining about the Jeffrey Dohmer movie and how Netflix trying to "make money" off this tragedy. That's what television, movies, etc. is about. Watch it or don't watch it. I will say I watched it and they did a VERY good job of portraying the victims as real people, with families, etc. It was very heartbreaking but I feel it also gave the victims a voice.
If that fish tank had been delivered, the delivery man would never have been seen again
Idk why but when the reporter said "or closure" that was so genuine.
I couldn't imagine the trauma this series brings back for the people who had to live it.
He wanted the asian kid to deliver the fish tank. thats pretty terrifying. asian kid dodged a bullet for sure.
“ Milwaukee “ this word is already scary itself without Cannibal.
that's kinda true lol
It means good land in native.
LOL why?
Yes it’s a Potawatomi, I’m from the Mohawk nation and have family in Oneida north east of Milwaukee, it’s means “ rich beautiful earth” in their nations language
And Main)
Yo the fact that he was like i want that asian boy to deliver the tank to my house and the owner said he got caught a week later is terrifying
Exactly what i said. He would’ve been his very next victim had he not got caught
He picked that poor sucker out. He was very lucky that Jeff got caught when he did. 😭
Luckily he was caught on time or that asian boy would've been his next victim to
Rest in hell Dahmer, And Rest in peace all the victims 💔
No sleep for the wicked hope he burns in hell!
Oooh let me tell you...BAD KARMA that he created (his actions)KARMA will NEVER get tired of paying Jeffery back...never...Now...in Buddhism?...will explain it better...than i can...
I Promise you...
I hope he is grinding his teeth in eternal agony.
Rest in hell...nice we don't hear that enough.
Suffer in hell is more like it
Netflix is just pointing out what needs to change that way it doesn’t happen again. Yes it’s painful for the victims and as a horror fan it was very disturbing to me. But it sheds light on what is wrong and still wrong in todays society. Equal rights.
I've always been very interested in Dahmer. Idk why but for some reason I was always drawn to reading about him and his case / victims.. but this new show taught me so much I did not know about how the police mishandled this case and the back stories on the victims. It was really well done.
You should listen to the Last Podcast on the left, they go into great detail on all sorts of True crime story’s. Not only the killers but also the police negligence. A lot of the big time serial killers were caught by mistake.. pretty interesting
Me too wow, so fascinating
@Trey Adams 😐
If you like that, then you should also watch 'My Friend Dahmer'. It was written by an actual classmate, and shows how Jeff was, in school. It shows his background, and how the kids abused and used him to make money. It also shows his family background, his relationship with his dad, and how much of a dingbat his mom was. It shows everything up to his first murder.
Yeah it's fascinating to me, I am 20 years old and about 10 houses away from me in Salt Lake city Ted Bundy was arrested for the first time in his life on Burglary charges which eventually led to his conviction of kid napping, because the beautiful girl got away. SO LUCKY 🍀
Genius series.
And the victims get their voices heard I that show.
Brilliant powerful show.
Not all of Dahmer's victims were homosexual
Dahmer (who is homosexual) murdered the hitchhiker Steven Hicks (who is straight)
A homosexual MURDERED a straight guy
But the media ofcourse tries to ignore that fact and only focus on anything that pushes a pro-lgbtq and anti-white narrative
It's a disrespect towards the victim families. They don't like this show
@@puurrrr it’s not disrespectful at all, they can feel disrespected sure, but the murders weren’t committed in a vacuum, everyone has a right to know what happened.
@@StevenP726 agreed, if it's only Milwaukee Wisconsin or Ohio states that knew, how would other people know what happened from that tragic fates of those 17 lives that were taken, it should let people be aware about a wolf in a sheep's clothing, like Jeff D who once existed in this cruel world. Jeff might looked very nice guy but it's just a disguise.
Watching the Netflix series and learning about Jeffrey Dahmer had my emotions all over. I feel sad for the victims and Dahmer. I ended up reading many articles on the background of Dahmer to get a better understanding of his upbringing and childhood. I know we can’t always blame a persons actions or lack thereof on their upbringing however, how you were raised and the environment you were raised in matters. Now, I don’t know how much of the series was all true facts and what parts were for entertainment, but it seemed like Dahmer tried to tell his dad about his fantasies and that something was wrong with himself, and like some parents do, his dad blew him off, and tried to fix him by sending him to Ohio State University! I guess his dad didn’t want to believe what his son was going through was what he too went through as a young man.
In the series Dahmer’s father told his new wife that when he was a young man, he also fantasized about killing people…Smh. Dahmer’s father should have listened to his son when he tried to confess. And off topic, why would you allow your son dissect dead roadkill? That’s not normal at all… Dissecting in a science class is a lot different then doing it in your garage. Then you allow him to use acid to dissolve the bones, definitely Not normal.
Dahmer’s mom on the other hand never seemed to be present with Jeffrey and it seems like she neglected him a lot. Apparently, she was on tons of medication when she was pregnant with Jeffrey… and attempted suicide.
It seemed like He had no guidance from his parents and no one to truly love him, or show him how to communicate. They were too busy worrying about themselves. It’s funny how Dahmer’s father tried to blame everything on Jeffery’s mom and how he turned out. His dad wasn’t present in Jeffrey’s life either.
I see a lot of red flags in their family. There’s only a few people that can turn into decent useful human beings after being raised in such a household like the Dahmer’s.
I hope the victims and their family’s have found peace in all of this!!
agreed!
that's what i'm saying, i don't blame him for being a serial killer infact, i feel bad and sorry for him. he just needed love and that's all.
I’m curious whether U have seen his father’s interview and there’s few of them , I dont blame the father , there’s lots of family much worse upbringing and yet they don’t end up murdering people
@@malpete Each person has a different set of genetic and environmental factors at play so don't expect everyone to have the same response to traumatic situations. Defense mechanims vary greatly with each person.
@@JEIDIKVNSKY 😮…..says nobody ever…
I was born in 83 so I didn’t know the extent of this, but I am really glad the series put light and details on this.
Crazy shit
Can't imagine the pain and anger the families felt then and today. 💔💔💔 Poor victims. The police let every single one of them down. Many of the victims could have been saved had they done their jobs right. 😢
What did the police do wrong? Netflix are tying to re-write history
@@nymike06the police let all the victims down
@@lili-fp4mc Not true in the least. The police were the ones who arrested him, remember? Going to a strangers home to drink and take erotic photos is a dumb choice. All of victims for the most part went willingly back to his home. If they said no, they would be alive but their lust got the best of them. The police are not he blame, so laughable
@@nymike06 not you victim blaming and yes, they arrested him but it was too late. 17 victims were DEAD. if the police had acted faster, they would be saving some lives lmao
@@nymike06 and maybe try looking in the bigger picture on why 17 victims went to his house? maybe it's because the victims were lured into his house LOL.
I think what keeps us coming back to true crime docs/shows/etc is that we think we will finally find the answer. The grand “why.” It’s the why that we so desperately want to find out. Why does a person do what they do? No matter how many stand points in psychology we have, it answers so much, yet nothing at all.
Edit: What I mean by “yet nothing at all” is it feels absolutely impossible to wrap your brain around the unhinged violence, no matter how much more we continue to learn. I have massive amounts of respect for science and psychology, and find these things to be extremely fascinating like everyone else who loves true crime. But it will always be something I don’t think we will ever truly fully understand no matter how many answers we have. There are explanations behind why a person does what they do, but to carry through with it is just something completely unimaginable.
Yeah but I think it did a fantastic job of revealing the why. Dahmer was likely born with the potential for APD, and events in his early childhood and adolescence cemented the APD and other personality disorder(s). Constant instability and neglect molded what probably would have been a somewhat odd person, into a deranged monster. Ills of society made it easy to get away with, to become a habit.
We have a decent picture of the why, minus exactly how one’s brain begins with this potential in the first place.
@@austingoyne3039 No I totally get that, and we have really come so far with advancements in mental illness/science. But no matter how much we find out and continue to learn, it’s still hard to completely wrap your brain around the completely unhinged. It feels impossible to fully understand it.
@@mbg140897 Be grateful that you don't understand it. It's a deep, twisted, dark place that you _don't_ want your bran to be able to intimately understand.
A deeply troubled soul. A shade of hell's neighbors
@@ember-brandt Everytime I watch stuff like this it stays in my head
I was surprised they put this series out on Netflix recently because I was old enough to know about Dahmer at the time when he was killing. And I remember when he got killed in prison, that was front page news. But this series is more for the new generation that wasn't around when he was creating terror in Milwaukee during that time. And this is the first time a series or show sheds some light on how Police don't always do their jobs, because police are shown as heroes and that's definitely not true!! lol So many bad police out there and corrupt police. Especially in the black communities where all of this was taking place.
It ain’t just about being black though it’s more than that. No one understood homosexuality in the 80s either…
I actually feel bad for him. I work psych and it has been life changing, it’s changed the way I think of people and mental illnesses. It’s given me awareness that not everyone is born the same. Yes, I feel like he was manipulative, he did evil things, and maybe he is only showing some remorse or empathy because he was caught. But I do believe him. He didn’t really have any reason to lie about why he did what he did by the end of it. I don’t believe anyone is born evil, but every psych patient I’ve met was there due to something that happened to them in the past or the environment they were raised in. It wasn’t entirely the cause of why they tried to commit suicide or hurt someone else, but I have learned that it all contributes somehow when I talk to them from a place of no judgment. My mom and dad divorced when I was very young, I saw them fighting and aggressive when I was a young child too. My mom basically abandoned me leaving my dad to raise me with my grandmother. Substance abuse and mental health definitely played a role in her abandonment. But I had grandma and dad present and they instilled love into me and who knows where I would be without that. I know he says it’s not the blame of his parents or society but I do believe it affects you a lot. It is still affecting me today in ways I don’t even realize. What he did was horrible, he absolutely deserved to be locked up. But it also sounds like a serious case of OCD and obsessions, fixations, and he was also diagnosed with borderline personality disorder. That’s a tricky one. I am so sorry for all of the victims and their families as well. What Jeffrey done was evil and there is no doubt about that. Thankful for this series because it wasn’t just about jeff, it also shows the influences of society and makes us realize some deep issues in America that need to be brought to the surface. Cops don’t listen to minorities. Racism is very much still alive. The fact that he was able to go on with these killings for so long because no one stopped to think “hey, my kid isn’t normal, maybe we should see about his mental health” or because people simply didn’t want to be around gays and minorities and believed them to be lesser. My heart also breaks for the 14 year old boy. And the deaf man, Tony Hughes. It is obvious Jeffrey experienced remorse. Although he doesn’t outright say it and it is hard to gather that from his actions, he stopped for almost a decade. He knew he wasn’t normal. He described killing them as the worst part. Bipolar was a big reason behind his killings, due to a deep rooted fear of abandonment. I hope we can learn from this. I hope we can learn to not dismiss our children’s concerns and to listen to them no matter how much we want to believe there is not a problem. I hope we learn that mental health issues are real and everyone is struggling. I hope that minorities are listened to and heard one day instead of being ignored for the color of their skin or their sexual preferences. I hope problems aren’t dismissed due to white privilegeThere is no good and bad, not everything is black and white. I also pray for peace of the families and hope they find some form of comfort. I also hope Jeffrey’s family finds some comfort, I imagine it must be hard to find this out about your child one day and wake up every day wondering if it’s your fault your kid turned out to be a serial killer. Can’t imagine the guilt or the pain that comes from this. This case is heart breaking all around.
Very insightful...and everything you said was spot-on!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@@NoLaGurl18 Is it though?. Very insightful.
i hate when traumatic true stories are turned into entertainment ...always think of like scream .imagine being the mother of the girl and seeing commercials on tv and people talking about how excited they are to see a movie that's about your childs brutual murder ... why am i only one talking about things like this??? i realized this on my own as a young child ..get it togther people
What was Scream based on?
@@earthangel6858 the scream series is more of a parody of horror movies than anything
@@JoeMama-xy8gi Ok...but the op implied it was based on a true story.
@@earthangel6858 because it is. Look up the Gainesville Ripper
naturally, eerie and weird behavior makes humans curious as to “why” certain things have happened. i don’t think that these shows are necessarily for entertainment; but for recognition of facts. the cops were both phobic of people of color and homosexuals. even so, humans will naturally want to know HOW and WHY these people commit crimes. ultimately, we’ll never know. but, what i know for sure is that i certainly felt uncomfortable and wanted to stop watching the new series at times (due to incredible research and acting).. but i also wanted to see a closer look at the victimizers mindset. it’s science. some people may be more sensitive to factual events in history and others are curious to prevent history from repeating. it’s wild.
He also said he didn’t like being gay
"Failures of police", yeah like Uvalde.
MPD was hell insidious to our community and let it pass bc he was a white boy.🛑
@Not rum whats your town? Lmfao
@@chupamela7995 Uvalde..🤦🏻♀️🙄duh..
Ppl said Ted Bundy was attractive... me personally, I think Jeffrey Dahmer was more attractive than Ted.... strictly talking about their looks... not talking about their evil acts of hatred.
The only thing about the show is they portrayed Dahmer as some super awkward, disconnected person which he was not. He was charismatic, charming, intelligent, and well groomed. He was a functioning alcoholic. If he was as weird as he was in the show, in real life then I don’t believe he would’ve been able to lure as many of those poor young men.
I feel like moments in the series show glimpses of his charm, it does show his evolution with picking up men, how he must have gotten some ‘game’ over time
@@rubyjones274 Not really, you'll only need game for acquiring women.
Did you ever meet him, if not how do you know this? He seemed weird during the trial.
He was actually very awkward though, and most people would think he was weird, just not in any sort of creepy way. It wasn't charisma and charm at all, it was just his shy demeanor could be seen as sweet and attractive, if you're a gay man meeting him at the club. And yeah he was definitely clean-cut with the type of clothes he wore, his big dorky glasses, and his whole nerdy look. That was seen as endearing and cute by many of those guys, looking at him there was nothing to be scared of.
@@earthangel6858 some victim accounts say he didn’t seem weird until he got them to the apartment and that’s when he starting acting odd, chanting and what not.
I feel for the families of the victims that have to see this plastered all over the internet and tv.
Exactly. So incredibly insensitive.
@@EB-gt1pq they dont Care, they could Just make fictional Stories with good writing but No, they have to do the "original". I hate this industry.
@@chrisgolda that’s how they make the money don’t shit on somebody else for trying to make money survive in this broken world
@@shotzcapalot wtf? Netflix? You think the founder is gonna Starve or what?
I do too it's a shame
"Does it bring back some trauma for the LGBTQ community?"
Bruuuuuh
They're just a bunch of drama queens.
What about the people of color
@@themoonbleu627 what about them? Idc bruh they weren't the only ones he killed
@@ohio72213 15 of his victims were POC are u that idiotic or just a freaking dumba**
@@ohio72213 yea he killed like one white man. Most of his victims were black, but in general more were minorities.
We have killers also called cops. People don't seem too disturbed about that. Hmm.
@FJB They kill innocent people too. They kill unarmed children. They kill unarmed adults. They hit their wives, they ignore crimes just like those cops let Dahmer kill a 14 year old boy.
Stop
@FJB you mean including the ones who were not armed and innocent?
@FJB I don't call people names so you're not gonna get a bad reaction from me. Have a good day. I'm just stating facts man that's all
I've dealt with MPD living there so Ik not all bad cops but again bc he was a white boy let it pass
Shows it doesn't matter how good-looking someone is. Scary the best looking guys always have something seriously wrong with them
The absence of the mother on most of the times and also both of his parents didn’t really had any good communication at all with him , i think that’s how he developed a mind like that , that’s going to continue to happen if parents are absent most of the time…
It’s so many people feeling sorry for a serial killer
“Regularly interacted” does not mean “he shopped at my store twice”. Like come on y’all. 😂😅 Now Scott the bar tender, that’s a regular interaction.
i dont blame them for not wanting to watch..... i watched and was very creeped out
I think Netflix did well... it is truly sad and will always be sad to recreate a story that has affected so many.
If you know anything about Dahmer, you know the poor asian delivery driver DEFINITELY would've been a victim. 😰
He was hungry like those piranhas
Sick
Exactly 🥺 he escaped death! 🤧
Fact: Tracy Edwards, the last victim who escaped assaulted a 14 yo girl and in 2011 was convicted of homicide of a fellow homeless guy. sad how Dahmer affected his life
you really gonna blame Dahmer for that guy's behavior? lol
@La Vérité yes. Unfortunately he wasnt able to move on and live a normal life after what happened. ended up fucking his and other lives as well...its usually a cycle for those who lived in trauma and abuse
@La Vérité Assuming you're talking to me, Dahmer didn't make anyone murder anyone. That was his choice.
Yeah…I dont know about that. I get Tracy was traumatized but that murder has nothing to do with dahmer. Tracy did that on his own free will
@@katuhtonik I am not blaming Dahmer. I noted it "affected" him that way because of what happened to him.
why is the fish guy so nervous? he has access to all the chemicals….
Life is hard enough, then you meet Jeff .
Something interesting that gets mentioned in the book "The Shrine of Jeffrey Dahmer", regarding his fish tank: Jeffrey Dahmer was very fascinated by pufferfish as he maintained his aquarium, and he was also was hoping to make human zombies by injecting boiling water and acid in some of his victims' brains. Coincidentally, Haitian voodoo priests made a poison using toxins found in pufferish that causes paralysis and puts people in a zombie-like state. It's an interesting little observation, Dahmer probably did not know this about pufferfish.
That is correct ✅ I was also told about that being one of many ways u can zombify someone … I’m blessed to have Parent(s) who fed me the poison as a baby for protection so that I wouldn’t/couldn’t be zombified by witches/monsters (Jab) who preyed on babies during that time ~91
Evan Peter's was AWESOME as Jeffery Dahmer.. just awesome.
I agree.
What disgusting why the cops who failed their job still have all the freedom, and all the good people like Glenda who living in hell trying to fight for all the victim. I am so sad for her.
Glenda is a made up character for the show. Two random women in the street tried to aave the 14 year old iRL
Wow the employee was going to be his next victim
I hope all the families put out lawsuits against your KKK police 👮♀️ department.
One thing I learned is it's not worth the money to go to someone's house and pose for pics
I was 11, 12 13, 14 throughout the Jeff Dahmer experience.. It was horrific watching it everyday but I'm fascinated by him and that's not uncommon That's a very human thing to be.
I couldn't handle the episode of konerak..That just broke my heart!
Remember that time. My wife's classmate once had dinner with Dahmer; her father worked at the Chocolate Factory with him and was invited over.
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@@DavidGonzalez-uq1ti 😂
I feel like all the comments I read everyone and their mama came in contact with Jeffery dahmer 🙄😂
Sure Jan 🙄
I hope he was vegetarian
I'm one of the people who couldn't get through the first episode. It wasn't because of gore but the performances...they were just too good. I felt such fear as the lead actor threatened his victim...I was just too scared to watch on.
Me too! I was scared couldn’t go on to next episode
LOL
wow that bartender does not look in his 50's/60's one bit. appears much younger. thats wild, good genes
Wtf? Are you blind?
The two police officers should’ve been charged with neglect and accessory to murder of that 14 yr old boy they delivered back to Dahmer’s apartment.
These cops need to go to jail.
Ok but he didn't target gay people only!! The 14 year old kid wasn't gay, his first victim wasn't gay and the guy that got away wasn't guy. He said it him self.... if he thought you were beautiful you were probably going to die 🥴
He was gay, gay men like men in general, not specifically gay men ...
A few guys in between weren't gay as well. I'd say half of his victims weren't.
Right. He tricked many men and boys over his place by asking them to come pose for pictures for money , then offered them a drink and they were out, gay or not gay. Such a sick man
@@carolinarodriguez8553 Yeah most of the victims were gay because he found them at the gay bars he went to. But some weren't...because yeah he was gay and found many men attractive, without regard to their own sexuality. His first victim wasn't gay. Konerak wasn't gay, I think a few others as well.
He looks different every time …
i noticed too,and wondering why.
@@chiputi8680hes reptilian shapeshifter. 🐍😈
One of the cop John Balcerzak who handed the kid back to Dahmer, was later elected as president of Milwaukee police department.
No wonder they say God bless America.
It’s a great series. Does justice to the victims 💯
1:00 that is so weird. That should’ve been a red flag. Who tf requests who delivers for them and especially it being a child. So many people, not just the police failed all of the victims. May they all RIP
That Aisan fish store worker dodged a bullet, damn
Wow so tastefully done, new subscriber today and I am a fan of yours already, please bring more quality content info such as this. WOW.
naturally, eerie and weird behavior makes humans curious as to “why” certain things have happened. i don’t think that these shows are necessarily for entertainment; but for recognition of facts. the cops were both phobic of people of color and homosexuals. even so, humans will naturally want to know HOW and WHY these people commit crimes. ultimately, we’ll never know. but, what i know for sure is that i certainly felt uncomfortable and wanted to stop watching the new series at times (due to incredible research and acting).. but i also wanted to see a closer look at the victimizers mindset. it’s science. some people may be more sensitive to factual events in history and others are curious to prevent history from repeating. it’s wild.
I thought it was an amazing show; the directing, the acting (all of the actors were phenomenal), the writing and the structure were all top notch. They didn't just focus on Dahmer, they focused on the victims, the families, the politics, the pathetic police and father and mother... I mean it is a pheromonal show IMO>
Fantastic. Evan Peters deserves a Grammy. I thought the police were more homophobic than racist tho.
I’m glad that fish shop owner didn’t have that young man deliver that fish tank to his apartment. More than likely Dahmer had ideas of him being a victim.
It's about money here. Netflix will definitely win money and forget the rest. It's disgusting
Exactly. It ain't about fucking racism and homophobia gtfo. We all like weird scary shit and that's all.
No Netflix is shining a light on the victims the families and the neighbor who endure his timing of crimes..im glad Netflix did it! Also his Narcissistic father who people were sorry for on Oprah show in 1994 also was exposed people were calling him a sweet old man no I honestly believed he molested Jeff then try to capitalize off of Jeff’s murders and the father has NOT one time in interviews or in his book felt any remorse for the victims and their families
@@dr.aliadixonnursepractitio6473 You know and right now this documentary about Jeffrey Dahmer is number one on Netflix you got a lot of idiots watching this s*** while the victims who are alive are suffering
@@dr.aliadixonnursepractitio6473 You know Netflix is gonna make a lot of money and is making a lot money over over people's pain
@@dr.aliadixonnursepractitio6473 But if you think about it they're doing a real life with people who like wanna die and they keep them alive for the profit
Netflix was not the only production to show the gross and ill acts he used to do but for some reason Netflix has this lens that seems to make people notice things that were already public knowledge and it's like they ignored the information on RUclips and other films made about him
If one of his victims is feeling down in the dumps, it's still considered impolite to say, "What's eatin' you?"
Groan. That's bad.
This isn't a freaking joke.
My 'girlfriend' Beth kept bugging me for a joint I didn't have, so I told her I'd go out and see what I could find for her... and me too. I found Jeffrey Dahmer on the corner of Juneau and Farwell. I had worked washing dishes and serving coffee at The Knickerbocker Hotel Pharmacy right nearby that location. Though he was standing there looking all around, and also looking 'smiley weird', I thought he was just out there looking to sell some of his weed. When I asked him he said, "I only have one joint left and it's over in my apartment by Marquette University. I'll just smoke it with you. You can even light it and take the first two hits off it. I'll take some after that and let you keep the roach for your girlfriend. I thought it was better than nothing so I started walking off with him...
I am a skinny guy and Jeffrey Dahmer towered about a foot above my head and he 'had meat on me'. I kept feeling a strange feeling while walking with him. He didn't do any of the talking at all. But he did constantly stare down at me 'hungrily', he wasn't even looking where he was stepping. Who does that, I must ask. Well, at first I thought he was just trying to intimidate me , and that he would probably start some farcical contrived fist fight over nothing just so he could 'kick my butt' later when we got to his place. I assumed he was just another bully I'd have to watch my words with when we conversed together. Then he stared looking very creepy in the face and specially his eyes, or rather 'creepier' than what he had been looking already.
Mama didn't raise a fool, but just the opposite. It wasn't worth walking the 5 or 6 more blocks we still needed to go, so I just said, "You know what, I think I'll just pass on the joint and tell her I couldn't find any. I'm pretty tired. I'm just going to go back home and go to bed early. Hey, I'll see ya around later sometime, okay?"
He didn't like hearing that at all. He grew very, very angry at me and said, "NO! You're coming with me because you said you would! I need somebody to talk to tonight!!" Then he unexpectedly grabbed my left arm by the wrist very, very tightly(He was very strong, I'll give him that much). He wouldn't let go. I started punching on his arm where he was holding me hoping to break the guy's lock, but failed miserably. He got very angry about that and raised his arm and hit me on top of the head hard and was threatening to do it again. I said, "OKAY! OKAY!!...I'M SORRY!!" I got scared. I knew he was probably insane right then. I also grew very wise... I had to.
I then realized that I had to lull him into a form of 'complacency' somehow so I could break free. Nobody was around except for an old couple far across the street walking the other way. They looked like they were hurrying to get somewhere. It was just after dusk and growing darker by the minute. I let him 'escort' me for another block and a half while relaxing my arm instead of puling it. Finally it worked. He either trusted I wouldn't try to break free or just grew tired of clenching my wrist tightly. He let up his grip just enough for me to suddenly pull away and flee about 15 feet away from him. He came right after me. I ran a little ways with him running after me. I saw something that I can't exactly remember what right now, I think it was a quart malt liquor bottle, but it might have been a piece of two by four. I think it was both maybe. I threatened him with whatever it was and eventually he gave up.
But then, stupid youthful me, when I called him a "lunatic" it got him very mad. He ran right for me with a demented look on his face. I started running away as fast as I could and finally got right back to where we had met. Where there were street lights, too. There were some people all around now. I yelled "POLICE" and it got there attention. He just turned around and walked away like nothing had even happened. I went back to my apartment and didn't think that much about it except having avoided a street fight. That was in Milwaukee in 1981, maybe 1982...
Well, years and years down the road when they had finally captured him I was now in Glendale, CA working graveyard shift as a desk clerk 3 nights a week. When I arrived to work that night they had the news on the tv in the lobby. He had suddenly appeared with detectives escorting him like he had escorted me in Milwaukee that one evening. I took one look at the face to see who this 'cannibal' was and almost passed out. My knees actually buckled because I had forgotten I even had knees at all. It was THAT GUY!!! Only then did I learn how lucky I had been. I'd swear in court with my left hand on a Holy Bible and my right hand raised that it was him, Jeffrey Dahmer, and this is all what had happened, too. GOD KNOWS...
Crazy world out there people. I'd learn how to defend myself if I were you, or at least be concerned regarding strangers who act 'friendly, but a little bit weird'. Your 'spirit' and your 'intuition' are your best defenses in many 'questionable' situations though. Mine kept yelling "HARK!", but I had ignored it a few times only so that I could go smoke some pot and also get a stupid roach for pretty, little Beth to have as her gift later when she came back to pester me again. I'll tell ya, sometimes being 'in love' can get a guy killed.
*I looked up "Jeffrey Dahmer baptism" and this is what I get?*
The show sucks you see more guys kissing than bodies getting dismembered or eaten
Wtf haha. Strange take
Were the police officers involved ever disciplined? Were the police officers ever caught & disciplined for making harassing calls to the Asian family? Did anyone reporting the story in Milwaukee ever interview the lady who lived next door to Dahmer? Was a memorial ever built in the place of the apartment building in memory of the victims? Please respond.
Watch and Finish the series
Nope! One was actually
Promoted to police chief it pisses me off. Cops can just get away with shit like this, be responsible for murder and still get promoted it’s so fucked
I live no where near Milwaukee and trust me I have no desire to watch it.
Have we really fallen that far from grace that we need to traumatizes the families that lost their loved ones in the name of entertainment? I thought that the Ted Bundy movie was disgusting and hopefully a one off type situation ... the whole concept making a movie about people that sick and perverse shows just how far down the rabbit hole we've fallen. Where is our compassion and reverence for those that have suffered because of them. I think there is a movie based on John Wayne Gacy as well...Really!!??
You are so right. I will not be watching this show. I watched the victim impact statements instead and my prayers and thoughts are with them and their families.
Another is on the way. October 7. Save the date lol
I understand that, but I think what Netflix tried to do is finally make a movie/series based on a murderer that finally directly shows the victim's life as individuals and not just numbers, how it impacted their families and how the police failed. So even though it's unnecessairy, maybe it will kind of "revolutionize" the true crime media and inspire future works to do the same, they would all be much more interesting
@@carpediem6842 what is the name of the series?
No one, victim's families included, is being forced to watch this show or any other movie/doc/series about a serial killer. Don't press play if you don't want to watch. It's really just that simple.
I thought the series was well done and detailed concerning Dahmer and all of those poor young men and boys that he murdered. Evan Peters did an excellent job. Heart wrenching.
I supervised him during his probation sentence. He was always drinking a coke. Probably washing down his lunch????? Ugh!!!
Ur lying
@@screechingonions2365 no I did, I wrote the sentencing report. They still let him go, and the rest is history
@@screechingonions2365 Ur a dork.
@@screechingonions2365 So to you everyone who ever came into contact with Jeff is dead, huh?
@@screechingonions2365 of course she is aint got nothing better to do
my boyfriend won’t watch this show with me he said “i went through it” i said you are right
According To My Opinion
Christian Bale Would Play Jeff Much Better For That Series.
Jeff was just sick. He should have gotten caught a long time when things were odd. I didn’t like the Netflix series. His father did not molest him I don’t believe one second his dad was when finding this out was shocked and trying to help his son. Yeah his mother had health issues but they didn’t expect him to come out the way he became to be Milwaukee Cannibalism. What I’m saying is Jeff isn’t the worst there are lot more people out there that are killers and that act smug about it. Jeff took responsibility for what he did and admitted it. Yeah if you don’t like what I have to say then don’t comment I’m giving my opinion. I have some what of remorse for Jeff and his family. And he didn’t deserve to be killed like that either no one does. I normally don’t have remorse for all of killers but him I do and I can’t help it but I do because he was sick man it’s sad he turned out that way. The worst thing of this case is the 14 year old boy and the police laughed about it so I blame them for not doing there jobs correctly when they had to know things weren’t right.
Im so tired of these dam shower conversion ads, it makes me never want to watch anything online. Its sickening. Hell a bathtub is extremely superior to a shower. PLEASE CUT THESE ADS OUT. THEY ARE SICKENING TOO MANY
I agree! I hate ads. And I love taking a bath in a bathtub especially when my hurts 🙏.
Keep closing and reopening the video until no ads appear.
Use or install Brave Browser in your phone or any gadgets if you want to watch RUclips without ads. Trust me
What I noticed most throughout the series and to a similar degree in real life interviews of those surrounding the case, was how everyone involved felt guilty of not doing enough.
It must have been doubly traumatic for Milwaukee area gays,et al.A gay serial killer-and AIDS being so stigmatized at the time.Then,not long after,there was the Matthew Shepard case in Wyoming.Even nowadays it still can't be easy for LGBTQ(or whatever the latest acronym is) people.The fact that there's so much drama over trans people nowadays is ludicrous.It's nothing new,and no big fucking deal.
They can only be victims. They hated it that Dahmer was one of their own.
people watch these shows and still walk around with no gun.
Same way I feel about "Roots"...the mini-series regarding slavery...didn't, won't, never WILL watch. Been there, done that, LIVING the legacy. I get it.
Well thankfully you never actually been there or done that but I get what you mean. Watching this show was so crazy cause you are experiencing something so disturbing it’s hard to imagine it was ever real, same w Roots.
was forced to watch it when i was 7 😅 very educational in what happened with our ancestors but truly terrifying and sad
@@Tiy51 I wanted to "quickly" make my point, so now I'll take the time to address yours. By been there, done that, living the legacy....I meant "our lives are the same" in that our destiny "remains" controlled by those believing they're superior. That....is my legacy. Whips, chains,segregation, institutional rape,etc., may be "modernized", but the effect remains. Finally, one doesn't have to experience the perils of space travel to comprehend how we got to the moon.
The comparison between Dahmer and Roots is actually quite valid and apt.
I really believe that Dahmer was heavily influenced in the way he treated black people by the abhorrent history of slavery in his country.
@@ReturnOfTheJ.D. i wish he gave more of a reason why he did it all he said was it was a compulsion and that the meat of black people tasted better
This dude looks oddly excited to talk about it.
R.I.P My good friend Jeffrey 👍🏻
I feel like the world needs more empathetic people in law enforcement cause WTF 😳.
So we can’t really trust nice people now ?? Ugh 😩
Hella na we not, my daughters don't even have friends 😂😂😂
Honestly , I’m 41 now
You can trust them, just don't go home with them if you haven't seen them more than once.
Imagine if the cops what of done their fucking jobs saving the 14 year old boy! Others would still be Alive.
All people then and Now Better Turn From All they Wickedness Pray humble yourself seek God Righteousness Faithfulness Knowledge Wisdom Understanding Commands HOSEA 4:1 Matthew 3:2 2nd Chronicles 7:14 👉 NOW👉👀💯
The whole Police Department should be prosecuted as well. 😡
THE MONEY SHOULD GO TO ALL OF THE VICTIMS FAMILIES!!!!!!
That fish tank delivery story is wild .. 😳👀
It wasn't racism tho! For a start he even said dahmer himself wasn't because the colour of the skin.
amazing, there have been plenty of documentaries and movies about serial killers with no issue, because this one has to do with black homosexuals suddenly its a big deal.
He is so handsome😭😭😭😭
Jeffrey did not break hearts, he ate them..
I will be watching
A quiet drunk is thee most dangerous of all
the ltgb community???? the human community you mean...
I.v watch it and if it true about the two police that let Dahmer take that 14 year old boy back into Dahmer apartment the police should of been charge with it
I watched the trial. Dahmer appeared to be the most normal person there.
@Jack Meoff
Whiteness used to be normal. Not so much anymore.
Yeah so normal if he would drill holes in your skull and boil your head after to remove your skin
@@browngreen933 you're fxxked up
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@@browngreen933 So true. White = minority.
Lol the irony of a news story interviewing people that don’t want to watch the series.