Never Buy A Floyd Rose Special
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
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Floyd Rose Specials are notorious for their problems. Here we will talk about a few that are VERY important. Hopefully this video will help you decide to purchase a quality Tremolo System. There certainly are some good Floyd Rose Specials out there... but by and large these have major problems.
Other Options:
Floyd Rose Original (Easy Install)
Schaller Lockmeister (Easy Install)
Gotoh 1996T (Requires Widening Holes In The Body) 
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we don't have to buy them , guitars today already comes with them installed
My Floyd Rose Stratocaster has one. Idk if it wasn't set up right but it just feels hard to bend
@@megajaredx9679Same for me. Have you figured out a solution?
Holy smokes that's what I have to look forward too! As long as i stay away from a tuner it should be ok.
Man, am I lucky! I have a jackson with a frs. Change strings about once month for the past 5 years. All original and still holding strong. Never worry about going out of tune or strings popping. After watching this video and reading comments, I am very fortunate!!
My charvel has a licensed one and squire stage master has a goto copy they are still ok,But if you want to know you bought a good one just get the original.I build guitars and the original is trustworthy every time.
I'm planning on replacing the EVH licenced FR special on my Wolfgang Standard for a FR original. Not cheap, but definitely worth it!
Gotoh 1996 will also work since the standard doesn’t have a slight recess like the specials. Don’t have to deal with the slight gap on the left like I would. I just ordered an original Floyd for my special because I’m swapping stuff to chrome haha.
with these issues on the regular Floyd Special, but what about the Special Hot Rod that comes in some Schecters? I'm eyeing a guitar that comes with the Special Hot Rod and I wonder if I should take upgrading into account
I actually got very lucky. My particular FR special is amazing. It holds tune perfectly but it does have the loose arm problem.
Loctite the screw.. put a fat o ring around the socket the bar screws into. Screw the bar down to set tension. Works for me so far.
@@gearhead762 I used locktite as well and it is still giving me the same issues...
There's absolutely nothing wrong with a Floyd Rose Special on an entry-level guitar being used by some novice player...that's precisely what they're made for. :)
I don't think so, I think ESPECIALY for begginers it will be a pain, why don't just go for normal bridge, especialy that begginers won't even make much use of the tremolo
Thanks for the heads up. Getting an original next paycheck.
Wise move. I have a Dean Dime Slime with one on it and it would snap strings like crazy. Just upgraded to a 1984 Floyd Rose Original Chrome and I also bought the R3 nut. It is so much better, quality is 1000 times better
luckily FRS on my cort x300 is a good one, stays in tune no matter what, although I did add an extra spring in the back to make it more stable, except that, its going great for the past year
I am taking your advice and getting a FR original. My licensed FR is the biggest pile of crap. Which nut would you get for a 42mm nut? Probably a R2 right? I think a R3 would be too wide and hang off the edges?
the problem with it not going back in tune after bending up or down is exactly what im dealing with on my jackson V ! Well thanks for finding and troubleshooting the issue for me , I think cause there is no quick fix other than getting a whole new bridge, and your exactly right im afraid to use it , whole reason i got this dam guitar in the first place ! But on a positive note it has made me use the pitch shifter and wah a lot more
I take all your points to heart on the FR Special, but I do have an honest question. Are you coming from a standpoint of a gigging, recording, professional musician? I am none of those things so I am wondering if the lower grade FR would be okay for a goof like me? I don't gig much at all anymore and mainly play for fun at home. Your advice is appreciated thanks!
I have a guitar with low quality double locking tremolo, it had a cort DL trem. Eventually one of the screw holes got damaged and I couldn't set up the intonation for one of the strings. Effectively totaled the trem. The material was not hard enough. Got a licensed Floyd Rose replacement. Tuning stability is still bad sub standard, every time I pick it up and tune up, it holds tuning for 30-60 min, and when it's out of tune I just stop plaing on that guitar, and pick up another guitar without any tremolo, and I am happy.
TLDR; As hobbist when cheap floyd wears out you will spend more time setting up the guitar and tuning it than playing it.
@@InfiniteDesign91lol I stripped the saddle groove for the locking bolt in my cort trem 😂. I check the dimensions, and you could just buy 1000 series or even original spareparts they have the same dimensions with the cort tremolo.
Cort double locking tremolo is not super bad, as long you don't force the bolt to turn and stripped the groove. They stay in tune quite okay, never have the tuning stability problem, especially after I changed the springs with the gotoh ones.
Thank you sir, very informative video.🙂👍
I think they're okay brand new, you just get what you pay for. If the knife edges wear you can just lock it and have a fixed bridge.
I just bought one where the previous owner had adjusted the height screws under string tension, and stripped a saddle.
This Jackson FR (2019) seems poorer quality than the Jackson FR (2014) I previously owned, it's lighter and seems to be made of brass alloy.
I've got an LTD M400, which comes stock with a floyd rose special. I'd like to upgrade to a floyd rose original but can't determine if the R2 or R3 are the right fit for the guitar, whose nut width is 43mm. Can you help me with this? Thanks man, rock on!
That I'm not totally sure on. When I upgraded my Kelly I search for a while to find that it came with an R3 Nut. Your best bet would be to contact ESP. They usually respond within a few days and they'll have the exact answer you need. Cheers -Ryan
Thanks alot man, you just saved me a 888€ which is the price of Schecter SunValley Super Shredder FRSBL.
It has exactly this FR.
Is it possible to buy a FR original nut while having a FR special? i feel like the problem with my FRS is the nut.
I just changed the strings on my mine literally last night. One of my saddle screws stripped and one of the blocks that holds the string wont hold the string any more. The string would pop out everytime i tried to tune. It sucks because its such a nice guitar.
I have a (Japan )Jackson rr3 with a Takeuchi Licensed Floyd rose, and 1 of the saddles broke. 24 years of hard (use and abuse). Now i dont know what to buy. the Floyd is a PRO model, but they re so expensive, and i was looking for a good solution. Someone told me that the specials are good, even tho is not the same system for locking the strings at the bridge. So waht u say, must i go for the Original FR or a gotoh or Shcaller. Thanks (sorry bad English)
I love the Gotoh 1996T… I’d check the measurements before grabbing a different trem system. But the Gotoh is great! And not super expensive! Cheers -Ryan
What if a guitar I buy comes with an FRS? Should I upgrade it to a different tremolo?
I'd plan on it. You might end up with a good Special... but plan on upgrading just incase. Cheers -Ryan
yeah. i bought a jackson with a special floyd rose and i was super excited cause it was my first ever guitar bought with my own money and within the second day of play the string got out of the bridge/floyd rose. that day i got so pissed that i cried. i returned the guitar and got a Dean MLX with tune o matic bridge and im looking forward to buy a dean ml select with a floyd rose 1000 which will be probably a lot better. DONT BUY GUITARS WITH CHEAP FLOYD ROSES!!
Same happened to me but twice the string just got out of the bridge....
The Floyd 1000s are much better, just put a push on, trem bar on it.
I tried putting a Schaller FR in my Ec1000 that came with a special, and the cavity for the Schaller floyd is too small... Fyi the special is smaller than original, not a direct replacement in all cases.
The rear cavity? Try a smaller block
Iv been having trouble with mine on a schecter changed strings,strings keep popping out also had one on a cheap kramer soon as you used it it would go massively out of tune so ripped it out put an old kramer one in ,massive difference they were new guitars so why the special is so bad odobt know
What if I take a floyd special and buy that upgrade kits from FU-tone? Like, new saddles, screw and new arm and attachment
You could go that route... Basically just save to base plate... but you'd still be running the risk of the tremolo system not returning to the proper position. So you would use the Arm and it would return Flat or Sharp or completely out of tune. Then you would need to replace the entire tremolo at that point or completely block of the tremolo system entirely. Cheers -Ryan
man, I have a doubt, I'm wanting to buy a 7-string solar guitar, however, it has this blessed tremolo, I have my doubts, I don't expect a perfect tremolo, that holds 100%, but at least I want something to work well and do not demand an exchange. What do you think?
Where can i get the Tabs of the backingtrack? awesome solos!
FACT: Floyd rose specials are usually fine when they are BRAND NEW. However, because they are made with varying quality standards, THEY DO NOT LAST. Every time i have taken a special off of a guitar that had seen any significant play time, there has been SIGNIFICANT WEAR on BOTH the knife edges AND the stud posts. The metal used is often of questionable quality. I ALWAYS try to talk new players out of a Floyd special. If you want a cheap guitar, get a hard tail. Cheap hard tails are fine. But cheap 2 point trems (anything lesser than a FR 1000 series) should be avoided at all costs.
Hi need help and hope for some answered🙏. My guitar is a ESP LTD MH-350 and it have Floyd Rose Special. I wonder if i can swap my special completely and use all parts if i but an Original Floyd rose? Ive read on Floyd’s homepage that some might ned to dowel the hole for the original studs to fit. But i hope someone nows if i have to do this? Very grateful for help before buying an original
You can swap them out. Some Licensed Floyds or Floyd-like tremolos (Gotoh) require slight modifications. BUT The Floyd Rose Special and the Floyd Rose Original are interchangeable. Quite an easy swap as well! Cheers -Ryan
Very helpful piece of advice! What do you think of Floyd Rose 1000 series?
Thanks for the video!
1000/2000 are the Originals. They are perfect! Cheers -Ryan
TriCrow Studios thank you!
My FR special is absolute garbage. Screws stripped out within 6 months. Bad sustain and tuning is subpar. Can’t wait to get an original!
It’s the difference in harden steel vs zinc alloy. Specials are made of cheaper zinc nickel alloy
Could you please tell me if the GOTOH 1996T will be a straight swap into a DEAN ML? Cannot get any answers!
The reason you can’t get a straight answer is they might use their own style of a Floyd Rose Special. The routing could be a little different. The best thing to do would be to contact Dean. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar Ok thanks for the reply.
Been using the special for a few years. Its better than the licensed under floyd ones.. but my FL Special seems to work fine. Ive never tried a real FL.. i'll have to check one out
Some of them you get lucky with, that’s for sure. Depends on who made the licensed by Floyd’s. older Jackson’s were made by Schaller and are phenomenal! But a lot are absolute dog shit! Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar I know there is not much of a chance of you replying to this, by older ones like how old?
Basically if your Jackson is made in Japan… you’re good! A lot of the used Jackson’s on the market are made in Japan and pretty cheap and their licensed Floyd’s are AMAZING! Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar thanks for replying man I appreciate it and yeah I seek out Japan made Jackson's so if I put a brass block on It I should be golden then? If so awesome and thanks
@@Crypticmaskguitar that amazing under licenced fr is called Takeuchi
Got a FR Special on a LTD MH350 FR. It's always a pain to put on new strings. In the first week they have a tendency to pop out of the bridge again and again. This really sucks, it's just a lot of work. And it's not because of too thick strings (I'm using 10-52 for drop C#). I avoid to use the tremolo because those little blocks really aren't doing a great job to hold the strings in. So yeah, if I had the money I'd at least replace the parts that hold the blocks with parts from an original FR (but that's about 60€). I think there's a german firm with good qualitiy that builds FRs with the same footprint for about 200€. Once I have the money I'll probably replace the whole tremolo. Can anyone recommend a tremolo system with one that allows keeping the ball ends on the strings and with the same footprint as a FR?
Newer players steer clear of the FR Special at all costs lol All your time will be spent troubleshooting then on Amazon looking for new trems rather when you really wanna be learning new tunes. I say this from experience lol Bought two EVH Wolfgang Standards that come with FR Specials. Starting last month pretty much everything in your video is now happening and these guitars are less than two years old. Great video , great 100 percent accurate advice!
Thx...damn near bought a Schecter Banshee with one of those. Not now...
Thanks for video was about to buy a kramer striker hss. Must fight the urge!
Defo take the saddles point and the blocks AND I totally agree, the Gotoh 1996t is the greatest ever BUT, the special's baseplate is steel and shouldn't be causing anyone problems. Just make sure you aren't height adjusting
I love my goth 1996t I had a lic Floyd and it sucked so bad it would go out of tune even when I wasn’t using the bar
I bought the FRT-01000
I LOVE IT
i have a ibenez grx70qa if i put the special on it will it be a bad idea?
A lot of times the routing isn’t properly set up for a Floyd Rose on Ibanez. I know a few guys who put a Floyd in an Ibanez and the top cavity had to be widened because it was rubbing up against the wall of the cavity. And I believe that they all said that the spring tension was a little different. Cheers -Ryan
The reason the trem arm doesn't tighten properly, is because the cap is several millimetres 'too deep' (the 1000 series has the same problem), and doesn't tighten down fully.
I've compared the proper Schaller made arm with the 1000 series one, and they are not the same.
Why change the design, even if they use a cheaper metal (the Schaller made one is magnetic and the cheaper one isn't, so it's not made of steel).
It doesn't really matter what metal the arm is made of, the screw cap on the arm should be the same size so it will tighten properly!!!
Never had that problem with my 1000. never falls out of place
I remove the blocks and lock screws & use a certain type of string through screws. I never worry about cutting a ball end off or a string popping out!
then you cant tune it from the back.
What if I have a shitty Washburn licensed floyd rose would this be an upgrade
Get the Gotoh GE1996T Floyd Rose instead. It costs more or less same as the Floyd Rose Special but its quality is as good as the Original Floyd Rose.
Why so many dislikes? I only see good information on the product to let you know if it's worth buying. Subscribed!
People don't like when you "Shit All Over" cheaper things. There are some good Specials out there... but few and far between. Lesser quality parts. If you spend a little extra you won't run into these issues. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar I've never owned a special, but I currently have a 2000 series and it stays in tune incredibly well. Only thing is the trem arm is a little squeaky and slightly loose sometimes, but that's an easy fix with a German Schaller arm.
@@timmbosliice the German arm made my 1000 series more responsive. That and the upgraded steel and titanium parts
Ibanez's Edge zero tremolos have that loose tremolo arm, I cant even flutter, after a using it's always becoming loose what is really-really annoying. I won't swap it, but my future guitars wont have a tremolo other than Floyd Rose 1000 or Floyd Rose Original. But the fix bridge is the best choice. Sadly, all the jacksons have floyd rose special, except the cheap and the really expensive ones.
I have an esp ltd cult 86 which is a great guitar but for whatever reason came with a floyd rose special. I heard people say its still a good trem but don't believe it, they are either lying or they don't actually use the tremolo. This system kept going out of tune no matter how much I tightened it down on both ends, nut and bridge. After that the strungs actually started cutting grooves into the saddle blocks so when I pulled up on the tremolo two of the strings popped out from the trem blocks. This was only after a week of owning it! I replaced every bit with a German floyd rose and its perfect! The floyd rose special is truly garbage. I have a 33 year old Kramer Nighgswan with the original 33 year old German floyd rose trem system and I routinely beat the piss out of it with no issues at all. It stays in tune and the strings don't slip at all. The guitar is too old for me to have even purchased it originally and it has no issues whatsoever.
that R3 nut of special/1000 series system are made from softer metal. The original floyd rose made in germany nut is way harder, undented by the strings.
Three of my Jacksons came with them as standard. Will most likely replace them with an Original or even a 1000.
I have an original Floyd Rose that came on my Kramer Focus 1000 from the 80s and it has never given me any problems after 40 years
All the others are just copies
Don't even think about selling it 👏
(well, except for me). ✋
i just bought a LTD delux MH - 1007 floyd rose its a 7 string why you say its bad for 7 strings and also how can you tell you got a special? This is my first time owning one I have had a 7 string Ibanez apex before this one
The 1007 would have a 1000 series Floyd instead of a special. It would say “Special” under the words Floyd Rose. Great tremolo system... but falls apart easily. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar thanks for the info !
A pack of six replacement saddles for a frs cost about $25.
In five years of playing the frs, one saddle stripped. I still have five extra saddles.
It's snowing when one strips but no big deal.
Dude I replaced them multiple times and same shit happen even tho I do not tighten them that hard
@@OutOfTheBoxThinker1 not only that but OFR or Schaller saddles are also way more resonant , open and have much better clarity : and i know that myself because i used to have a special and bought a set of Schaller saddles. Same guitar, amp, and strings, it was night and day, even unplugged i was blown away by how louder and clearer it sounded. Next day i ordered a schaller baseplate , and never ever have i used a special again. So it's not even only a matter of durability , but hardened steel definitely sounds way better than zinc
@@florian6240 Schaller has Brass block, right? From the point of view of sustain.
Are you aware of any modifications I would have to make if I were replacing my FLoyd Rose Special with a Floyd Rose Original? i.e. Screw sizes nut widt etc...
Nut Width would be dependant on your guitar. But everything else works fine in the change over. Cheers -Ryan
The Schaller Lockmeister is the Original Floyd Rose (exactly same product) but with Schaller's stamp on it
Yeah. Floyd parts from Floyd are Schaller as well. Cheers -Ryan
The Lockmeister is better than the Original Floyd Rose because its baseplate is 1 mm thicker.
@@TheNocturnalEvil nope, the lockmeister has the same specs as an OFR : the one that is 1mm thicker is what schaller themselves calls the "schaller tremolo, and it has replaceable (if needed) knife edges : schaller.info/en/tremolos/359/schaller-tremolo?c=51 VS schaller.info/en/tremolos/364/lockmeister-6?c=51
I know, this confusing , but my guess is the Locmeister is for people who wants the exact same thing as an OFR, while the schaller tremolo is schaller's own take of a locking trem : kinda like the gotoh 1996
Damn I just ordered one for a diy guitar kit, hopefully it doesn't crap out on me🤞
retuuuuuuuuurn it ASAP
It's harder now to find a new 1000 series
I am looking to upgrade my licensed Floyd Rose but an original Floyd Rose is like 250 bucks. WTF! Does the FRS really suck that bad?
It might hold up for you, you could try buying real Original Floyd Rose Parts to upgrade it… some people have success with that. You could look into Gotoh 1996T it is cheaper, but you’d want to replace the dowels. Best of Luck. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar sounds good, thanks for the advice man! I’m new to your channel. Some good stuff on here and great playing! 👍
The base plate on the Special is steel but I don't think the knife edges are subject to the same hardening process the OFR and 1000 series are. The saddles are cheap cast pot alloy and very soft metal hence why they fail and also make the trem sound dead. The OFR and 1000 are machined steel and far better quality and should last years. The arm bushings and mount are a whole subject on their own. The original Floyd screw in mount from the 1980s was nice and solid but suffered the "unscrewing itself" issue. The best arm you can get now is the push in arm which I've found to be pretty bomb proof.
Are you sure you're not mistaking licensed floyd and floyd rose special?
Licensed Floyd’s are made by different companies with a bunch of different materials. Some are phenomenal! Floyd Rose Specials… You can get good ones but most will need parts replaced within 6 months. Cheers -Ryan
The word you are looking for is Sturdy material.
That’s two words, how about steel
How bout super glue to tighten the tremelo arm
Or loctite
Hahaha the thumbnail! Great video
Thanks.
thank you i was just thinking to buy cort x300 that has this . u saved me
Yes, it would be a very cool guitar if not for the Floyd Rose Special.What guitar do you want to buy now?
You familiar with the 2020 Fender HM Strat reissue? It comes stock with a Floyd Rose Special despite being a $1200 guitar... #Nope
That’s bullshit. Fender is a shitty company.
@@itaxevasixn8808 At least they're not like Gibson. Lol
Danny Keil true that man
Why single out Fender? There are dozen of companies that put specials into guitars at that price range. Talking to you ESP.
@@shanewalton8888 I'm not the one who said Fender was a bad company. I actually like them. Lol
Bought one because it is being used on the new Fender HM reissues and it was cheap. But, yeah it sucks. The tuning blocks in the saddles don't tighten, string slips and the fine tuners on it are awful. The unit itself seems light and flimsy, pretty shocked actually that's an official Floyd Rose. I got a Gotoh model and night and day, no comparison. The Gotoh is the real deal, quality locking bridge with a nice block under it. Yes, avoid the FR Special.
The HM reissues having a Special on them is asinine imo. They were $1300 USD brand new when they came out, there's literally ZERO reason they couldn't have put an OFR on it.
@@waylong25 There's no excuse for not putting the '1000 series' Floyd on it, because at least that has steel saddles and a brass block. They are saving money because the OFR is now a ludicrous price, and although the 1000 series is not as good, I've found it to be good and stay in tune, I've had no problems.
They shouldn't even be making the shitty 'special' (nothing special about it!!) and stamping 'Floyd Rose on it!!! They are saving money already by making the 1000 series in the far east already. The quality and durability of the metal should always be a consideration, otherwise they are always going to cause problems.
I avoid anything with the word 'special' stamped on it, like the plague!!! 😁
Glad I decided not to bother buying a Schecter Sun Valley Shredder now 👍
i bought a gotoh 1996t in my jackson dinky using original floyd rose mounting studs as a sub yesterday
the E,G,e snapped while i was setting it up but got it to work right now hopefully
maybe you have to wait a bit for strings to stretch before completely tuning to pitch?
That’s not “Normal” but it can happen… very rare. I have a few Gotoh 1996Ts in some Jacksons… they work great! Cheers -Ryan
agreed, the FR Special is just as bad as a cheap licensed. Get a Gotoh 1996, it's even superior to the FR Original, and a bargain too, no one can beat Gotoh, they make the best hardware, and the price is very reasonable considering the extreme quality
min 1:47, VERY TRUE
the loose arm problem sounds like something a little blue loctite could fix. i watched a video the other day saying that when you use the tremolo, the movement actually causes the bolts holding the blocks in, and the bolts on the nut to tighten, so its not necessary to tighten the shit outta them. but if it doesnt hold the string enough to tune in the first place, thats a problem. also the part on the base where the post contact being worn is not good.
This came with my new strat. Not too bad imho
Hopefully you got a good one that lasts for a while. There definitely are some that are great! I have not been fortunate enough to have had that experience nor do I really know of anyone that has... but I have read some people who have good ones so it does happen! Hope yours stays great! Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar it’s my first FR so idk
You never know! Floyds are great, but sometimes limiting. Restrings take a little bit, but once you get used to the process it’s not so bad. Just remember that you can replace components on the Special with Original parts... or you can swap out directly for a Floyd Rose Original if you need to. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar good to know thanks. I figured at 600 cad for a 2020 players strat it wasn’t a bad idea to learn. Great vid
@@Crypticmaskguitar it’s like mim stats with sharp edges. Most I got ere great one was like a cheese grater.
I always spend the bucks on a floyd rose original or a schaller lockminster's floyd rose I bought a gotoh ge1996t tremolo bridge and I don't like it I have a schecter hellraiser demon series I'm getting a floyd rose original for sure
I bought myself a Fender Player with Floyd Rose Special. I asumed a Floyd Rose must be good enough but it is just as you mentioned!
The arm is terrible and the thing doesn't move in a smooth way. I've had guitars with Kahler Spider trems which were much better. I've ordered a Gotoh GE 1996T-C. The guitar is fine btw but the Floyd Rose makes it feel cheap!
That’s the same bridge I got on my guitar it’s great you made a good choice on the 1996t
@@kaoe145 Thanks mate! I'm very happy with the Gotoh! Fender should put these trems on these guitars as a standard! Better for the guitarplayers and better for their name!
I've had one of those saddles crumple to pieces on me while i worked on a guitar, literally into crumbs lol
There goes the Solar A2 Neon FR purchase then..........I wont even touch them now. They do an Evertune model but thats over priced.
You can always replace the stock Floyd Rose Special or the 1000 Series Floyd Rose with a Gotoh GE-1996T. The Gotoh Floyd Rose is as good as the Original Floyd Rose.
Yes really true. FR original or FR special or any FR copy licensed, really I hate to used in my guitar. Wilkinson is better and Edge Pro, ZR & ZPS tremolo. That's I want.
Yep I did
Anyone know what comes on a evh wolfgang special, been waiting for this guitar for months.
Floyd Rose 1000, same as the EVH Striped, the Standards have the Special.
I really wish manufacturers would skip the FRS and use Lockmeisters instead. I'd gladly pay the difference.
I agree!! I have a Lockmeister and it's great!!!
Some manufacturers like Schecter used to use the 1000 series floyd, so at least you got steel saddles and a brass block (unfortunately they've cheapened the bridges out and are now using the special), but the 'special' is nothing of the sort!!
Sure you can replace the block easy enough, but even upgrading the saddles is no good, because the quality of the metal is suspect!!! The screws are extremely soft and easily strip, as well.
I have the 1000 series floyd on an import BC Rich and it's pretty good (even the arm 'sort of' tightens up, but not really!! 🤔). I personally wouldn't touch a guitar with a special series on it with a bargepole, because of all the problems they cause.
Shame on manufacturers using an inferior 'special' on guitars that are a grand or more, there is no excuse for it!!!
The Special needs to be discontinued. Period.
This man is right, the FR Special is rubbish, it basically gets damaged the moment you put strings on it because the strings pierce the saddles like butter, and the base plate gets damaged and damage the pivot screws every time you use it; unavoidable because it's a non lubricated metal-to-metal abomination. The design of the FR is terribly bad and outdated, why use a a non-lubricated off axis metal-to-metal pivot-wedge when it could be designed with a central shaft and bearings. That's a first-grade mechanical and dynamics design mistake. They keep making trash because people buy it. For instance. Kahler is going in the right direction with their tremolos, at least they have a shaft that rotates.
The guy is totally right. I have an ltd with fr special, it has all these 3 major problems. It never stays tuned ehile using the tremolo, i have to place it back right. The tremolo handle is loose and most important is the fact that the materials are not good. My b string is always out of tune and if i bend it, the fr does not keep it. Stay away from it. Im looking for a new fr to change it or even try to sell my guitar, dont know yet.
And how about put an original Floyd Rose in a cheep guitar?
I've done that with a Gotoh 1996T, actually.. a few times. as long as the neck is good you wouldn't have any problems. If the cheap guitar has a bolt on neck that isn't too solid then you will have some major problems. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar how do I know if my neck is solid?
I could've told you that that Floyd Rose 1000 is KOREAN MADE. Nothing to special to it! It is made from zinc which I don't understand as it is so soft and not recommended for professional instruments of any kind! This is the reason that so many people are having trouble with them. Your best bet is to buy the Gotoh and replace your cheap bastard tremolo. The Eddie Van Halen Musicman guitars all had the Gotoh tremolo on them and are in use to this day. Schaller doesn't make their equipment - a company named BML in Germany makes all their hardware. So in essence they make Floyd Rose tremolos and Schaller as well but neither one make their own. I knew that these new tremolos were of low quality but I never owned one or owned a guitar with one so I only know of the guitars that I have tried at the music stores with them. They look nice but their performance over time is questionable. Thank you for sharing this with us although I got to the party a little late.
You forgot the most important reason: LOSS OF TONE. The cheap pot metal string saddles in the FR Special makes a guitar lose brightness.
So the floyd rose special is the same as the licensed Jackson floyd rose. Gotcha XD
No...its not.
There are a few decent licensed Floyds. Hell, Schaller and Gotoh are technically licensed Floyds, but they're arguably better than OFR. Special, on the other hand, is like a shitty licensed one.
I recently bought a brand new 7 string jackson soloist featuring that garbage floyd rose bridge. One of the saddle screw holes stripped off on my first string change. I have two originals on my other guitars and never had such a problem. Had to order original saddles. :( I wish I watched this video before my purchase.
Think you got a dud, mines fine
I think the opposite... you got a good one. I’ve had 2 Shit ones and numerous other friends who have had the same experience. Shoddy materials used. Glad yours is working for you, though! Cheers -Ryan
Get a second-hand guitar with a FR Special, try it out, complain that the thing won't hold tune, get the guy to drop the price, go home and rip it out , throw it into the bin, and install the Gotoh with the proper Gotoh studs, all set.
Plays nothing after gear discussion
We’re you expecting me to reinstall the Floyd Rose Special and play something? Whole point is to show the problems with the Special... so people can make a more informed decision when purchasing a Trem System Upgrade.cheers -Ryan
My Schecter C-1 Platinum FR-S comes with a Floyd Rose Special, and it goes out of tune 95% of the time!!!!
The Japan floyd rose trem ,Groto or whatever is made out of better metal ,even some of the cheap ass floyd rose china designs on ebay are made out of better material then the floyd rose special direct from floyd rose .. I know this is insain that the 25 dollar china ones are made out of better material then the official floyd rose special ones are . Trust me your better off getting a original floyd rose pro or 1000 ,,even the china or japan made copies are better then the specials .. They need to really think about upgrading the material that the specials are using ,,,Floyd Rose im sure will correct this if he gets wind of it happening like it is ... Its just taking a big shit on his name to continue using this material
"this video is for those who want to upgrade.........basically anything." lol
Yeah, don't buy one. I am having intonation issues on my import Nuno N model.
I do agree that the floyd special is garbage. I have had better luck with Wilkinson. Lol
Unfortunately they do.. biggest pieces of shit any guitar manufacturer can put on their guitar. I recommend gotoh or edge. And If you can’t go without a Floyd I recommend a original. It will save you from having to replace the cheap zinc saddles every other string change
I have been so tortured by this piece of crap. They are everywhere and apparently the goddam zinc makes all the difference. Putting a 300 bridge in a 600 guitar is looking viable because then I won't be buying a new special piece of crap or paying several thousand.
This tremolo is suck
Don’t buy they look the same cheap metal. They wear away to quick the knife edges and the loose tremolo arm. Cheap metal. Useless junk