I've been dealing with licensed FR for many years. overtightening can be a problem, it strips the saddle. One thing you can do is to make an "L" with the e, b,g and d strings so the litlle block inside the saddle also catches the bottom part of the" L" and you dont need to thight so much. Be safe!!
I have a Floyd rose special and it's been working fine for nearly five years now. For as cheap my guitar was, I'm very happy with it. If I can't have it repaired when it eventually starts messing up, I'll probably upgrade to the original, since I enjoy the guitar.
Thanks for the awesome video 😃👍 Happened to me as well. High E saddle went first, then already loose Arm and finally knife edges and other saddles. All within a year. Proud Schaller Lockmeister owner now 👏
I have a FR Special on my Fender Strat, for years I haven’t had an issue until i was just taking the saddles off the clean them and was just being a bit of an idiot and put too much force on the screw and stripped it, other than that the FR Special works quite well for me, replaced the saddle and everything is good
I've had similar issue with my FR special as well. The zinc saddles gets dented pretty easily so when I would do a pull up the A and low E string would go flat.
Is it possible to buy a FR original nut while having a FR special? i feel like the problem with my FRS is the nut it always clicks when i lower the tremolo arm and it barely stays in tune when i use it
Doing a bunch of research on this. Seems you can replace the saddles for steel ones for about $80 for a set of 6 and the saddle blocks for titanium for about $40. $120 to upgrade. However, for about $220 you can replace the entire bridge with a Floyd Rose original; for that you get an upgraded block and better machining for fine tuners and other parts. I am planning to buy two FROriginals to replace the two FRSpecials. From what I am reading and what Floyd Rose told me you can literally just swap the Special for the Original, if you swap the nut you will have to do some other adjusting because they say the Original nut is higher, not sure why that is.
I bought a dimebag "far beyond driven" Guitar and the floyd was a special. Idk if the special is stock but every time i used that bar,it would lose tune. Or...the strings would pop out of the bridge
Spend a little more and get the original 84...full hardend steel ...solid as a rock. Upgraded mine the brass block..It makes a huge difference in sustain and tone with a tad more mids.
This just happened to me 2 days ago. I have a Floyd Rose Special in a kh-202 and i was changing strings and my saddle was stripped exactly like this where i could push the screw in anod out. Also i noticed some of the other saddles are beginning to strip. Im just going to replace it with a Floyd Rose Original.
My special did the same thing. High E saddle was stripped and the string would always pop out. Replaced the saddle with and inferior saddle from amazon. The really cheap saddle works 10x better than the FR special saddle. And like you said, once it's stripped while you're tightening it just keeps shaving out more of the cheap metal saddle. Works great with the replaced saddle but thinking about upgrading to FR original or Pro.
I have an Ibanez RG7420 I've played for 20 years and changed strings no problem. Last year I bought an LTD Kamikaze reproduction that had an FRS in it. Changed the strings a few times, but this past weekend the B-string saddled stripped. Now I have to figure out what to replace it with if not another FRS... or I can keep my current FRS for spare parts, LOL.
I’ve had the same problem. I found if you take the “block” that backs up against the string, and file, or “rough up” the side that goes up against the string, it seems to hold the string without having to torque down the screw that holds the “block” against the string👍🏻 it’s not 100% fix, but dose help
I heard many bad things about Special, but also very good things. I had one and didn't had any problems. What caused me problems was a "Jackson by Floyd Rose", that ive been told is the same as the Special. I had problems mainly in the locking nut. Cheers from Portugal 🍺🤘
Depends. Some of the older Jackson Floyds were made by Schaller and are absolutely solid. I have 2 Jackson Floyds on Japanese Jacksons that are the best Floyds I have ever played. Cheers -Ryan
I just bought a brand new c-7 sustainiac schecter ( 7 as in 7 string). It has a Floyd Rose 1500 series, it’s amazing but I’m getting a little too much play with the arm. It bends a 1/4 inch before it effects the bridge. I’m not sure if it’s a malfunction or I am doing something wrong. The arm on this Floyd, I have to screw it in with an Allen key instead of the normal screw on from the top of the tremolo arm. This type of stuff shouldn’t happen if you spend more than 1500 for a guitar
If you're replacing your Special with an Original... make sure you replace the mounting studs too... they're made from the same inferior steel as the Special.
Only the German factory Floyd Rose/Gotoh is heat treated for hardening through, not case hardening. Nobody else does it or it will cost the same. Don't get licensed brands, they will not last.
the FR special is fine if you change the block, you can get them around $10 from china on aliexpress. the issue is that they have small blocks, nothing else,
quite frankly it is worthless, the thing just can't take it. I was skeptical, until I saw for myself (exactly the same thing happened to me, the tuning screw self-destructed). Got a Gotoh 1996, simply the best trem one can find, and a bargain too. Gotoh makes the best hardware available anywhere, these guys are unbeatable
INteresting..I've had a F/R special [on my ESP KH-330]for 7 years, played everyday, live use, etc and it's never happened to me..THe only thing that failed was the original whammy bar..[thread was badly worn].
Obviously there will be some outliers. For about 5 months I thought that the Floyd Special on my Kelly was fantastic... then parts started to wear and you will randomly hear *PLINK* once a week and I will look over and a string has popped out. The trem arm also WILL NOT stay in place at all. I bought 4 Gotoh 1996T systems to replace the Specials on some of my guitars. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar Obviously. Just had to mention that there are in fact outliers, where this hasn't happened. I'm happy with my main 6 string, and the special is a just a cheaper version, but its still a certified F/R [which have always made quality parts]. again, people need to know this, if they're ignorant to the facts to the matter. Keep it up man!
I have a guitar with Floyd Rose special and strigs are popping out, but screws and holes in saddles ale all right, solid material...don't know what's the issue.
The good news is that the parts are replaceable. Better option would be to upgrade to a full Floyd Rose. I'm considering it on this 7 string. Cheers -Ryan
I haven't looked too much into at this point. I still have to do some research on 7 String Floyd Rose Options. I also need to judge how much I'm going to play this guitar hahaha. No point in doing a $400+ upgrade if I'm not going to play it that much. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar Vid on replacing? Thinking about replacing a FR special with an original, but don't know how and don't want to pay a shop for it lol.
I'm splashing out for some 1000s saddles because my special series ones that came on my schecter are cut into like hell, they cant hold a string for the life of them and the strings just cut giant channels into the curve.
It's made of all softer metal versus the made in Germany OFR or the FR1000 I have one of each and can attest to the fact that the German steel seems indestructible while the pot metal of the FRS is getting divots and wear marks. I've never seen one completely stripped so I can only assume the last guy must've cranked on it like an ape!
It’s probably best to switch to the Floyd rose original. It will work far better and you will get your seven string back. The quality between a Floyd original and Floyd special is night and day. It costs a bit, but you will not regret it and it will last a lifetime
The problem is they shouldn't be making saddles of zinc, full stop!!! Even if you are careful with your stuff (and let's face it, a lot of people DON'T look after their stuff), you are still going to have a problem because zinc is far too soft, so saddles need to be hardened steel!!! The "special" (it isn't at all!!) is inferior to even a lot of the licensed floyds. because of this!!
I replaced all my Specials with Schaller Lockmeisters! The exact same bridges as the OFR but at lower price! Cheers and don´t forget to oil your bridges!
Buy a new saddle. The kid who had it before you probably stripped it out. I like the guitar but I would like it more if it were a real 6 string. I’m not a fan of the 7 string but your playing is very good. Anyways peace out brother. I hope you get your saddle repaired or get a new one.
Bought new everything for this one. Seems alright. But I have a Tremol-No Installed. Not that big of a fan of it. Just don't think I want to invest $400 in this particular guitar for a "Real Boy" Floyd. Every Floyd Special I've ever had has had issues. One from a brand new Jackson Kelly is absolutely un-useable. I bought 4 Gotoh 1996T Trems but haven't had the time to install them all. The one that has been installed is SOLID! Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar alright brother. sounds good. i just ordered one today for my chinese knockoff kramer 5150 evh. this guitars parts and electronics are a nightmare.
same thing happened on my schector, fucking hate the floyd rose special, not because its a floyd rose, but the build quality has the string going out of tune shockingly fast. too bad the next model up is twice the fuckin price.
I have the Jackson soloist 6 string and its got the special, the saddles, fine tuners and whammy bar are all shit, my strings pop out and the threads in the saddles are fine, just shit material, ill be stripping it down and getting all new saddles, fine tuners, whammy bar, and brass block, the chassis is exactly the same as original or pro.
Anything from Floyd Rose has been garbage quality ever since they stopped making them in Germany under Schaller. If it isn't licensed and stamped with a company name like EVH or EBMM, it's buyer beware. Those companies, Gotoh, Schaller, and the old Schaller stamped OFR Floyds are made with hardened tool steel. Ibanez uses some weird metals that hold up pretty well (aside from the Edge 2/3) and their trems are produced by Gotoh.
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Changed my FR Special with an Original...best decision ever, expensive, but awesome.
Painkiller488 X did you install it yourself?
I've been dealing with licensed FR for many years. overtightening can be a problem, it strips the saddle. One thing you can do is to make an "L" with the e, b,g and d strings so the litlle block inside the saddle also catches the bottom part of the" L" and you dont need to thight so much. Be safe!!
The saddles on the FR Special are zinc. The previous owner probably stripped it, and sold it to you that way.
Bingo! Cheers -Ryan
I have a Floyd rose special and it's been working fine for nearly five years now. For as cheap my guitar was, I'm very happy with it. If I can't have it repaired when it eventually starts messing up, I'll probably upgrade to the original, since I enjoy the guitar.
Thanks for the awesome video 😃👍
Happened to me as well.
High E saddle went first, then already loose Arm and finally knife edges and other saddles. All within a year.
Proud Schaller Lockmeister owner now 👏
I have a FR Special on my Fender Strat, for years I haven’t had an issue until i was just taking the saddles off the clean them and was just being a bit of an idiot and put too much force on the screw and stripped it, other than that the FR Special works quite well for me, replaced the saddle and everything is good
Time to swap the whole bridge for a original Floyd. No point in just changing parts in my opinion.
For a 7-string though, it's a little more difficult to source the parts sometimes.
I've had similar issue with my FR special as well. The zinc saddles gets dented pretty easily so when I would do a pull up the A and low E string would go flat.
You should upload more videos, man! You're pretty great!
Happened twice with me. Changed to schaller and since then never had any issues
Is it possible to buy a FR original nut while having a FR special? i feel like the problem with my FRS is the nut it always clicks when i lower the tremolo arm and it barely stays in tune when i use it
Doing a bunch of research on this. Seems you can replace the saddles for steel ones for about $80 for a set of 6 and the saddle blocks for titanium for about $40. $120 to upgrade. However, for about $220 you can replace the entire bridge with a Floyd Rose original; for that you get an upgraded block and better machining for fine tuners and other parts. I am planning to buy two FROriginals to replace the two FRSpecials. From what I am reading and what Floyd Rose told me you can literally just swap the Special for the Original, if you swap the nut you will have to do some other adjusting because they say the Original nut is higher, not sure why that is.
I bought a dimebag "far beyond driven" Guitar and the floyd was a special. Idk if the special is stock but every time i used that bar,it would lose tune. Or...the strings would pop out of the bridge
Spend a little more and get the original 84...full hardend steel ...solid as a rock. Upgraded mine the brass block..It makes a huge difference in sustain and tone with a tad more mids.
This just happened to me 2 days ago. I have a Floyd Rose Special in a kh-202 and i was changing strings and my saddle was stripped exactly like this where i could push the screw in anod out. Also i noticed some of the other saddles are beginning to strip. Im just going to replace it with a Floyd Rose Original.
The Gotoh FR style bridges are an amazing substitute! Head to Philadelphia Luthier and Supply.
My special did the same thing. High E saddle was stripped and the string would always pop out. Replaced the saddle with and inferior saddle from amazon. The really cheap saddle works 10x better than the FR special saddle. And like you said, once it's stripped while you're tightening it just keeps shaving out more of the cheap metal saddle. Works great with the replaced saddle but thinking about upgrading to FR original or Pro.
What saddles did you buy exactly?
I have an Ibanez RG7420 I've played for 20 years and changed strings no problem. Last year I bought an LTD Kamikaze reproduction that had an FRS in it. Changed the strings a few times, but this past weekend the B-string saddled stripped. Now I have to figure out what to replace it with if not another FRS... or I can keep my current FRS for spare parts, LOL.
I’ve had the same problem. I found if you take the “block” that backs up against the string, and file, or “rough up” the side that goes up against the string, it seems to hold the string without having to torque down the screw that holds the “block” against the string👍🏻 it’s not 100% fix, but dose help
I heard many bad things about Special, but also very good things. I had one and didn't had any problems.
What caused me problems was a "Jackson by Floyd Rose", that ive been told is the same as the Special. I had problems mainly in the locking nut.
Cheers from Portugal 🍺🤘
Depends. Some of the older Jackson Floyds were made by Schaller and are absolutely solid. I have 2 Jackson Floyds on Japanese Jacksons that are the best Floyds I have ever played. Cheers -Ryan
I had that happen to me I bought a guitar and their owner before me overtightened everything and ruined the tailpiece on the Floyd Rose special
I use a trem stopper with the spring. I can still pull up..best of both worlds
I'm confused with the difference between these Special "hot rods" and a regular Special. What's the difference?
Wasn’t aware that there were Floyd Rose Special Hot Rods. The Hot Rod series are usually Floyd Rose Originals with a fatter Brass Block. Cheers -Ryan
I just bought a brand new c-7 sustainiac schecter ( 7 as in 7 string). It has a Floyd Rose 1500 series, it’s amazing but I’m getting a little too much play with the arm. It bends a 1/4 inch before it effects the bridge. I’m not sure if it’s a malfunction or I am doing something wrong. The arm on this Floyd, I have to screw it in with an Allen key instead of the normal screw on from the top of the tremolo arm. This type of stuff shouldn’t happen if you spend more than 1500 for a guitar
U are freaking right dude
If you're replacing your Special with an Original... make sure you replace the mounting studs too... they're made from the same inferior steel as the Special.
Absolutely! Luckily they are included... just don't be lazy and you'll be all set! Cheers -Ryan
Only the German factory Floyd Rose/Gotoh is heat treated for hardening through, not case hardening. Nobody else does it or it will cost the same. Don't get licensed brands, they will not last.
the FR special is fine if you change the block, you can get them around $10 from china on aliexpress.
the issue is that they have small blocks, nothing else,
Blocks don’t allow strings to slip out, though. Problem is with materials used. But I’m glad that you haven’t had issues with Specials. Cheers -Ryan
This happened to me yesterday on my schecter sun valley guitar
quite frankly it is worthless, the thing just can't take it. I was skeptical, until I saw for myself (exactly the same thing happened to me, the tuning screw self-destructed). Got a Gotoh 1996, simply the best trem one can find, and a bargain too. Gotoh makes the best hardware available anywhere, these guys are unbeatable
Not at all a new problem I first encountered this 15 years ago. Its just down to wear and tear on low quality parts.
INteresting..I've had a F/R special [on my ESP KH-330]for 7 years, played everyday, live use, etc and it's never happened to me..THe only thing that failed was the original whammy bar..[thread was badly worn].
Obviously there will be some outliers. For about 5 months I thought that the Floyd Special on my Kelly was fantastic... then parts started to wear and you will randomly hear *PLINK* once a week and I will look over and a string has popped out. The trem arm also WILL NOT stay in place at all. I bought 4 Gotoh 1996T systems to replace the Specials on some of my guitars. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar Obviously. Just had to mention that there are in fact outliers, where this hasn't happened. I'm happy with my main 6 string, and the special is a just a cheaper version, but its still a certified F/R [which have always made quality parts]. again, people need to know this, if they're ignorant to the facts to the matter.
Keep it up man!
Special lock nuts have same problem. .top and bottom
I have a guitar with Floyd Rose special and strigs are popping out, but screws and holes in saddles ale all right, solid material...don't know what's the issue.
my nut plate stripped also from tightening too much. I think I have a licensed one though...
The good news is that the parts are replaceable. Better option would be to upgrade to a full Floyd Rose. I'm considering it on this 7 string. Cheers -Ryan
I have said the same thing on my video. Do you have a particular original/german made floyd rose you are considering?
I haven't looked too much into at this point. I still have to do some research on 7 String Floyd Rose Options. I also need to judge how much I'm going to play this guitar hahaha. No point in doing a $400+ upgrade if I'm not going to play it that much. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar Vid on replacing? Thinking about replacing a FR special with an original, but don't know how and don't want to pay a shop for it lol.
If I do end up upgrading then I will certainly do a video on it. Cheers -Ryan
I'm splashing out for some 1000s saddles because my special series ones that came on my schecter are cut into like hell, they cant hold a string for the life of them and the strings just cut giant channels into the curve.
It's made of all softer metal versus the made in Germany OFR or the FR1000
I have one of each and can attest to the fact that the German steel seems indestructible while the pot metal of the FRS is getting divots and wear marks. I've never seen one completely stripped so I can only assume the last guy must've cranked on it like an ape!
It’s probably best to switch to the Floyd rose original. It will work far better and you will get your seven string back. The quality between a Floyd original and Floyd special is night and day. It costs a bit, but you will not regret it and it will last a lifetime
Soooo previous owners fault?
Yes. along with a few other things.I can get the string to stay in for a few minutes... until I use it. I was hustled, y'all! Cheers -Ryan
The metal in the FR Special is terrible. Saddles strip easily.
I don’t understand why the specials cost about $100. It’s the biggest waste of money
The problem is they shouldn't be making saddles of zinc, full stop!!!
Even if you are careful with your stuff (and let's face it, a lot of people DON'T look after their stuff), you are still going to have a problem because zinc is far too soft, so saddles need to be hardened steel!!!
The "special" (it isn't at all!!) is inferior to even a lot of the licensed floyds. because of this!!
The same problem as mine . . Floyd Rose Special on a Schecter omen..
Yep, same thing happened to me on a Schecter Omen Elite 6 FR 😡
I replaced all my Specials with Schaller Lockmeisters! The exact same bridges as the OFR but at lower price! Cheers and don´t forget to oil your bridges!
So I guess one can say, you got screwed..? ;)
I had the same experience it’s fucking horrible I thinking about just getting a original Floyd
I've been looking in to Gotohs... at least for my 6 string with a Floyd Special. Not sure if there's a 7 string version. Cheers -Ryan
Na it happened on my 6 string
Buy a new saddle. The kid who had it before you probably stripped it out. I like the guitar but I would like it more if it were a real 6 string. I’m not a fan of the 7 string but your playing is very good. Anyways peace out brother. I hope you get your saddle repaired or get a new one.
Bought new everything for this one. Seems alright. But I have a Tremol-No Installed. Not that big of a fan of it. Just don't think I want to invest $400 in this particular guitar for a "Real Boy" Floyd. Every Floyd Special I've ever had has had issues. One from a brand new Jackson Kelly is absolutely un-useable. I bought 4 Gotoh 1996T Trems but haven't had the time to install them all. The one that has been installed is SOLID! Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar alright brother. sounds good. i just ordered one today for my chinese knockoff kramer 5150 evh. this guitars parts and electronics are a nightmare.
I had a floyd rose special and it was garbage. really. It made me so many headaches.
Which make was it, even I have a FR special
same thing happened on my schector, fucking hate the floyd rose special, not because its a floyd rose, but the build quality has the string going out of tune shockingly fast. too bad the next model up is twice the fuckin price.
I Have a Floyd Rose Original on my King V Pro and it’s flawless! But I bought 4 Gotoh 1996t Trems to replace some of my Specials. Cheers -Ryan
I have the Jackson soloist 6 string and its got the special, the saddles, fine tuners and whammy bar are all shit, my strings pop out and the threads in the saddles are fine, just shit material, ill be stripping it down and getting all new saddles, fine tuners, whammy bar, and brass block, the chassis is exactly the same as original or pro.
Got 2 guitars with a Floyd Rose Special. I had it with these things. I'm convinced now , they are garbage.
well fuck just bought one >:l
I just planned to buy the floyd special but after watching ypur video I'm getting scared of it's performance 😅
Don’t waste your money please
Anything from Floyd Rose has been garbage quality ever since they stopped making them in Germany under Schaller. If it isn't licensed and stamped with a company name like EVH or EBMM, it's buyer beware. Those companies, Gotoh, Schaller, and the old Schaller stamped OFR Floyds are made with hardened tool steel. Ibanez uses some weird metals that hold up pretty well (aside from the Edge 2/3) and their trems are produced by Gotoh.
The specials are fucking garbage. I've gotten 2 brand new guitars with specials and I've had to replace bridge on both.
They're cheaper for a good reason...
They stink.
Floyd Specials should be banned! They are pure crap!!!!!
Agreed... even though I'm buying 2 guitars with Specials on them hahaha! Just gonna have to upgrade to Originals. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar Right on, cheers Ryan.
Sure, but they're still far superior to some of the other cheap licensed stuff I've seen around.
floyd special is shit, i have one on my schecter i'm changing it for a schaller
It's flipping garbage!!!!!