This guy actually nailed the Terminator. Made it more better at the fact that he doesn't kill anyone that not deemed a threat or doesn't have a gun in hand.
It's nice to see that Cromartie follows 2 long established Terminator rules 1) See target , walk very slowly towards it. Target is escaping, Terminator runs and shoots but misses obvious target. 2) Despite heat seeking vision cannot see warm target in window silhouetted against sunshine. Shoots and misses obvious target.
One of the best things about this show was that black detective guy's gradual discovery and realization that this time travel terminator stuff was actually true. I'd say they should have developed that more, but I guess he did find out for sure.
Having a Terminator copy of you try and kill you in your own home, only to have Cromartie destroy it to save you by destroying it right in front of you? Having seen a single terminator take down both a whole FBI SWAT team and your partner, after reading up on what Sarah Connor has been saying for over twenty years? Having seen the metal exoskeleton under Cromartie's "skin" deflect bullets like they were throwing peanuts from assault rifles, point blank? He only had two choices: believe or go insane.
+AwesomeMax 217 Google "Gulf War Syndrome" It doesn't dose you the way a full sized nuclear bomb would but it still releases a small dose of radiation.
I don't know if it causes GWS but those vapors and dust that is created when DU ammo spalls and ignites contaminate small area with radiation.......over 300 Italian soldiers have died and over 3000 are diagnosed with cancer after serving as peace keepers in Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan (and next time people see "nice" pictures of A-10s spraying freedom all over the world maybe they think twice about it)
I like it when john gives the last shot. just a show of triumph and symbolizes that john will always be destined to defeat skynet. i prefer though that if the terminator kept seeing the info and the misson parameters even when he was dying.
It makes sense. If you consider the possibility that with his hud gone and Cameron giving the T888 a lobotomy, that in that short instance the terminator was vunerable, confused, and perhaps afraid yet so close to its objective. We see it from it's true POV and not skynet directives
His strategic chip probably fried itself in all this sun - after being ambushed he just stood and hopelessly fought being outgunned from hidden positions. He could just run away, reposition, rearm, and go back. A simple FPS bot using Pentium computing power from 20 years ago could calculate that...
Mine too. Frankly, this show was great until after this episode because Cromartie is technically no more after this. They destroyed his chip, and the show along with it. The show went way down hill after this, which is likely why they cancelled it.
if any other than FOX hosted the show, it would've probably lasted longer. FOX had so many shows and they took over and TSCC was forgotten. also marketing sucked with TCSS. I'll forever remember the show tho. so good
It made no sense how Cameron could blow up part of its head. Then again the terminators in this TV show where far weaker then those in the movie. As an example the T850 could take high voltage and not shut down, the terminators (who are t900's if I remember right) go down to a spark...
Ha, this is how Terminator SHOULD be done, not how the films have portrayed it since T3. Terminators are effectively unstoppable killing machines who will not stop, ever, until their mission is completed. They can and will do anything to accomplish this objective. Cromartie is possibly the best example of this since the T-X in T3-and given just how she went down? Not as tough as she seemed in the end.
Agreed ,sadly the scriptwriters were constantly changing which is why the episodes were out of sequence and a new Terminator was due in cinemas at that time . I have the box set and treasure it.
is it me or does cromartie really tries to behave like the terminator from the first movie menacing cold stare emotionless if you notice there is a slight glimp of music from the first terminator every time he appears
Yep. Armour Piercing rounds aren't actually just made to be armour Piercing. Their way of damaging the target is different as well. Normal bullets have to deal with flexible and elastic yet very strong biological soft tissue, so they're designed to use an effect called cavitation to damage soft tissue. However cavitation doesn't work when you have rigid internals. That's where armour Piercing enters the picture. Instead of causing the cavitation effect it shatters and fragments into a huge cloud of devastating fragments inside the target travelling everywhere at high speed. Now, fragmentation is what you don't want to happen when facing biological soft tissue, the elastic and strong tissues will easily absorb the fragments and disperse the energy. But with brittle and hard components like inside a Terminator, the high speed fragments cause massive damage which is likely to be fatal
I actually thought that this guy was scarier than Arnold; he seemed more other-worldly somehow. Of course , he blew that by starring in "Raising Hope" and playing a doofus... lol
He died way too easily as we saw the T800 take shotgun blasts with not much of a scratch and hit multiple times from M16’s up close in the first terminator movie.
i think the difference is the ammo. is T1 everything would have been standard rounds designed to hurt people as much as possible; not as effective against a metal skeleton. here they'd be prepared specifically to fight a terminator using armor piercing rounds
This actor played an evil Terminator perfectly. Cromartie was arguably the smartest and most resourceful Terminator, and that’s saying something. All Terminators that are T-800s or more advanced are very intelligent and fairly resourceful, but Cromartie got all new skin and took on a whole new appearance despite not being a shapeshifter like the T-1000s and more advanced.
Yeah technically everything cromartie did with Ellison was to lead him to Connor and Ellison fulfilled that objective. Problem was Connor was prepared.
I have my own theory. Much like a zombie, the head of a Terminator unit is the weak point. All the processors and important components are stored in the head, and even if it's armored like the body, the armoring is probably thinner, not as resilient, and possibly not well insulated against the shock that would come from a one ounce slug slamming into it at a velocity of 1,600 feet per second.
I think the show lost a lot with the death of Cromartie. He was a great antagonist, and without him the rest of the show kind of stumbled on without any compelling direction.
@Travis Carlson T-900 are not that advanced than T-888s, parts from a T-888 are still compatible with T-900 and vice versa, as when Allison young (a T-900) had after a fight with Rosie,(name written for a T-888) Allison stashed away Rosie's body as repairs/spare parts, apart from the new fancy brain mapping and various software upgrades and or seperate microprocessors, the T-900s are via design identical to T-888, the T-900's only difference is the infiltrator's design of T-900 is not able to indurate against other terminators unless necessarily vital for missions or other causes like that, with all due respect.
Damn Cameron just kept shooting him in the same spot over and over. others should try that. When his head chunked and he fell it was like in the original Fallout 1 & 2 games where the head gibbed and they fell.
The biggest problem is that they can destroy terminators way to ez.. they just destroy him with normal guns.. Everytime a new terminator appears you know: he will survivor for 2 Episodes. Cromartie was perfect.. he was there since the beginning. He was waiting for John and Saraha for years and we saw him repearing himselt, looking for john and saraha.. he was just perfect. The only other terminator that was scary was this one with the bald head
The 9mm rounds did nothing except distract the terminator from the other one but the 12 guage rounds however were depleted uranium rounds which were more than enough to penetrate the hyperalloy endoskeloton.
Guys, you should react to the special effects in this scene from The Sarah connor Chronicles the Terminator TV show Terminator TSCC: The Death of Cromartie [HD] The effects around the terminators face damage near the end in the church look real good for a tv show of that era and budget.
I have two theories why Sarah Conner dies of cancer. 1: in the first movie after Reese's blows the T-800 to pieces :) Sarah gets a piece of the Terminators frame nailed into her leg. It's possible a small piece stayed behind after she pulled it out. I doubt Skynet gave a fuck about what they added to their crucibles to give the different super aloys err "hyper alloys" (the T-800 series's frame is made of) different metal characteristics. 2. It's cannon that the T-800 was powered by a nuclear battery. and When she crushed it in the metal press at the factory, she was exposed to god knows what. Another thought crossed my mind: I read somewhere that the line in Terminator 3 where the T-850 is ".....powered by two hydrogen fuel cells. When ruptured bluh bluh blu......" It was either a script mistake or Arnold fucking the line up, because it was apparently supposed to be "hydrogen fusion cells". On forums guys were saying a "hydrogen fuel cell that size couldn't power the terminator and it would never explode and produce a mini-mushroom cloud. If the line "hydrogen fusion cell" was the correct line, than it all hangs together nicely. Like another line in "The Terminator" where the first terminator asks for a "phase plasma rifle in the forty watt range". What would 40w do to anything??? But if the line was supposed to be read as "phase plasma rifle in the forty killa-watt range" than that makes much more sense. A plasma bolt with 40KW behind it would probably steam explosion style blow you up like the girl in the battle field flashback dream.
Also to all the fans. Terminator 6 is apparently coming. James Cameron is on board of this one. The movie supposedly disregards all movies after the T2.
Such an awesome character and an awesome actor. The original Cromartie was terrible but as soon as this guy took over, he was PERFECT. I love that prisoner freaking out, and how the Terminator is very in character - the guy is zero threat and not the mission so not worth the ammunition.
There are a couple of things wrong with this scene, although is quite artistic and nice. A shotgun would NEVER damage a Terminator (and we are talking about a T-888, wich is even harder than a T-800 or a T-850 and the last one even survived at a plasma canon shot). And even if that shot gun was loaded with depleted uranium slugs or bullets, John terminates it with a simply small caliber gun, not even another shot from the shot gun at least!
I know this comment is old, but this is the logic here. It takes your hands to peel the orange. And a bite to eat it. That simple. Special shotgun rounds exposes the head's internals. Then John finishes it with a 9mm. Eazy peazy.
@@RetroArcadeGuy haha, no problemo with the "old comment". I guess this scene makes sense for the writers, I asume they had to finish that T-888 in that chapter. But it still looks weird seeing a Terminator that is apparently superior in terms of durability and strengh than a T-850, being defeted by shotguns with special ammo...
@@rodrigoarias5870 This is true. However, point blank rounds that are depleted uranium will do a lot of damage that even a triple 8, the most advanced of the 8XX models, can't handle them. It may make the Terminator seem weak and vulnerable but it is realistic.
It might have been interesting to explore the idea of a Terminator that was almost completely human. A creature that could drink booze and tell bad jokes, but still a Skynet creation. It would be a creature that would be an exact copy of the original to the molecular level.
Just without getting too nerdish (technical wrongs...),only from acting p.o.view-the cromatie at this state,is the best interpretation of all,when it comes to hostile sub-t1000models.A well known iconic actor never coul do so well no matter how good he is because the whole purpose of them is being undercover,adapting,infiltration.A well known face prevents the very concept from working,cuz the viewers brain constandly has the"hey,,it's him"function on.But with that guy it was really broken down to very pure acting.Just great! (doesn't meant to lower the actor,his quality after the system switch,just become obvlious)
Ambushing a Terminator and decide the best guns are *9mm* H&K MP5's? It would have been more "realistic" if they were using semi auto 50 Cal's or something else heavy hitting that could be believable against a Terminator. And then Cameron walks up and is using either AP slugs in a big shotgun (shotgun shot is less armour piercing than regular bullets) or a Barrett.50 _mock up_ that looks real but is light enough to be casually welded by a small skinny actress.
Mexico is mainly portrayed as a place people go to hide out. I don't think people who go there for that reason would go near well developed urban areas but the backwater towns where they can keep a low profile.
This guy actually nailed the Terminator. Made it more better at the fact that he doesn't kill anyone that not deemed a threat or doesn't have a gun in hand.
"more better"?
@@seankehoe8658 You know what they meant. Stop being a jerk.
He's one of my favorite b list actors
Cromartie was fantastic because he was ruthless within reason, notice how he doesn't bother or hurt the hostage, amazing depiction
The guy on the bench followed the rule of the "god damn" guy from T1, stay out of the way and you don't get hurt.
Hey c'mon they only had a tv budget
It wouldn't be efficient to waste a bullet on a noncombatant.
A terminator wouldn't let anyone live as it would know that other police would be warned.
It's nice to see that Cromartie follows 2 long established Terminator rules
1) See target , walk very slowly towards it. Target is escaping, Terminator runs and shoots but misses obvious target.
2) Despite heat seeking vision cannot see warm target in window silhouetted against sunshine. Shoots and misses obvious target.
Almost all of the Terminators in the movies ran after they're targets.
@@kylereese1042 What do you mean "ran after they are targets"?
@@Jesse-B I mean they ran after the people they were tryin to kill. Obviously.
@@kylereese1042 Oh I see, I struggle trying to decipher the internet sometimes, especially there their and they're.
@@Jesse-B Oh that's what you mean. Forgive me, ive been running without sleep for about a day and a half now.
One of the best things about this show was that black detective guy's gradual discovery and realization that this time travel terminator stuff was actually true. I'd say they should have developed that more, but I guess he did find out for sure.
He just to rehab and forgot about it and is now teaching police officers interns in The Rookie. :)
Having a Terminator copy of you try and kill you in your own home, only to have Cromartie destroy it to save you by destroying it right in front of you? Having seen a single terminator take down both a whole FBI SWAT team and your partner, after reading up on what Sarah Connor has been saying for over twenty years? Having seen the metal exoskeleton under Cromartie's "skin" deflect bullets like they were throwing peanuts from assault rifles, point blank?
He only had two choices: believe or go insane.
Garrett Dillahunt as a terminator is just a logical casting choice
he`s great in deadwood too
I liked'em as Burt Chance
That guy is great
Dude was masterful in Deadwood. To play a terminator so well is some god tier stuff. Garret Dillahunt deserves to be in more projects.
He was one of only few reasons I liked FTWD
@@deralbtraumritter8573I never watched that, hell I didn't even know he was in it.
But "Raising Hope".....he was a master class in that.
They fucking cancelled it. God damn you Fox.
Man all these years later and I've feel the same way as you.
Good it was a 🤡 show . Not cannon
Declining ratings and high production costs has a way of doing that.
Depleted Uranium Slugs are what killed cromartie. Its a common ammo in the terminator games, It also exists in real life as a very hard metal.
Might explain how Sarah Connor winds up dying of Leukemia
360Nomad I dont think depleted uranium rounds give radiation because then then the military wouldnt use it as tank ammo
+AwesomeMax 217 Google "Gulf War Syndrome"
It doesn't dose you the way a full sized nuclear bomb would but it still releases a small dose of radiation.
360Nomad Depleted uranium has no radiation even a guy that drove a tank that used depleted uranium shells said that.
I don't know if it causes GWS but those vapors and dust that is created when DU ammo spalls and ignites contaminate small area with radiation.......over 300 Italian soldiers have died and over 3000 are diagnosed with cancer after serving as peace keepers in Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan (and next time people see "nice" pictures of A-10s spraying freedom all over the world maybe they think twice about it)
This guy played a better Terminator than the TX or anyone else since the T-1000
I agreed
I actually kinda liked the TX though, the actress made her character scary
bruh i know right!
This Dude was a T-888 He was Advanced However Not as Advanced as Cameron as She was a T-900 Way More Advanced and Intelligent than His Model
And thats still all crap the scc series
I like it when john gives the last shot. just a show of triumph and symbolizes that john will always be destined to defeat skynet. i prefer though that if the terminator kept seeing the info and the misson parameters even when he was dying.
Yeah it was weird we were seeing glitching but not the interface...
Yeah: "John, finish off that machine that we nearly destroyed for you, O.K.? You will be so cool." :D
It makes sense. If you consider the possibility that with his hud gone and Cameron giving the T888 a lobotomy, that in that short instance the terminator was vunerable, confused, and perhaps afraid yet so close to its objective. We see it from it's true POV and not skynet directives
Dark Fate begs to differ
@@spartacussmith7070 dark fate is in it's own timeline, and, as many fans are concerned, is not canon (just like this show, I guess).
His strategic chip probably fried itself in all this sun - after being ambushed he just stood and hopelessly fought being outgunned from hidden positions. He could just run away, reposition, rearm, and go back. A simple FPS bot using Pentium computing power from 20 years ago could calculate that...
Terminators are known for being stupid on the line of fire.
Overestimated his own.
Up until the shotgun came out he wasn't any any real damage that would suggest the odds were against him.
Cromartie was one of my favorite terminators
Omg samee😭😭 I love him
Mine too. Frankly, this show was great until after this episode because Cromartie is technically no more after this. They destroyed his chip, and the show along with it. The show went way down hill after this, which is likely why they cancelled it.
That was a good show I wish it would have lasted longer
There was supposed to be a third season but it was canceled
Killer Grunt84 yeah to make way for new Box Office movies the first being Salvation... I hated they cancelled this show 🙁
Agreed. I’m still upset they canceled it.
if any other than FOX hosted the show, it would've probably lasted longer. FOX had so many shows and they took over and TSCC was forgotten. also marketing sucked with TCSS. I'll forever remember the show tho. so good
and the bullet recoiled off chromarties head and killed John connor
greg20067 recochet?
I think he shot into the opening created by Cameron so no.
I am also was suprised that he can kill him with one shoot. And it was on sarcastic mexican song:))) F@@@ing disgusting:)))
@@alexnon8122 what are you talking about? The song fit the theme of the terminator's death
It made no sense how Cameron could blow up part of its head. Then again the terminators in this TV show where far weaker then those in the movie. As an example the T850 could take high voltage and not shut down, the terminators (who are t900's if I remember right) go down to a spark...
This is like that scene in T1 when Arnie goes to the police station and massacres all the police there while looking for Sarah.
I thought of that too.
Да в принципе я в сериале больше отсылок на первого терминатора
Yes but the police station scene is far better directed and staged.
Arnie, cromartie amd patrick are the only terminators that we’re badass in my opinion
Don’t you mean arnie , garret and Patrick ?
I agree. None of the other Terminators were as scary or as well played (when not reprogrammed to work with the Resistance).
@@jordanelza8806 the t-x was good imo
Imho Shirley Manson did a good job on the T1000, too. And she´s a singer, not an actress. TSCC was just great.
Ha, this is how Terminator SHOULD be done, not how the films have portrayed it since T3. Terminators are effectively unstoppable killing machines who will not stop, ever, until their mission is completed. They can and will do anything to accomplish this objective. Cromartie is possibly the best example of this since the T-X in T3-and given just how she went down? Not as tough as she seemed in the end.
Better than all of Terminator series combined can't believe this didn't carry on
Agreed ,sadly the scriptwriters were constantly changing which is why the episodes were out of sequence and a new Terminator was due in cinemas at that time . I have the box set and treasure it.
is it me or does cromartie really tries to behave like the terminator from the first movie menacing cold stare emotionless if you notice there is a slight glimp of music from the first terminator every time he appears
I see it with cameron too. I got such arnie flashbacks when she went bad.
That shotgun had armour piercing rounds..explains why it did so much damage.
18PANA as a matter of fact i believe it was depleted uranium shots.
+Michael Gombert That, Tungsten, and thermite became the favored methods of destroying terminators on the show.
Thank you! I was so confused!!! Even here in this scene he's impervious so why the shot gun? Now i get it THANK YOU!
Yep. Armour Piercing rounds aren't actually just made to be armour Piercing. Their way of damaging the target is different as well. Normal bullets have to deal with flexible and elastic yet very strong biological soft tissue, so they're designed to use an effect called cavitation to damage soft tissue. However cavitation doesn't work when you have rigid internals. That's where armour Piercing enters the picture. Instead of causing the cavitation effect it shatters and fragments into a huge cloud of devastating fragments inside the target travelling everywhere at high speed. Now, fragmentation is what you don't want to happen when facing biological soft tissue, the elastic and strong tissues will easily absorb the fragments and disperse the energy. But with brittle and hard components like inside a Terminator, the high speed fragments cause massive damage which is likely to be fatal
At least the show tried to explain it.
They shoulda been using .50BMG AP Incendiary.
Cromartie was one of the best terminators. I wish i had more screen time..
Damn this guy plays the perfect terminator
Then he came back as John Henry and everything was lovely.
So, he got cruxified and then resurrected. Huh.
@@invisiblekincajou That's one way of looking at it.
R.i,p one of the most badass terminators
I actually thought that this guy was scarier than Arnold; he seemed more other-worldly somehow.
Of course , he blew that by starring in "Raising Hope" and playing a doofus... lol
somehow I got sad in this episode... I don't know... I miss cromartie. he was cool!
he was a killing machine. not cool.
I cry when he died 😣😣⚘⚘ I really love him, and actor and Terminator 💝💖 Cromartie one of my favorite characters in franchise of Terminator ❤❤❤
@Daryl Dixon fan It's just my opinion, because he is my favorite character.
Same 😢
Poor Cromartie...
R. I. P. 😔
That background song about "llorona" is scary.
the death of cromartie and the birth of john henry.
Cromartie going into the church like he could even hurt Luke Cage, hah!
Hasta la visita baby
He died way too easily as we saw the T800 take shotgun blasts with not much of a scratch and hit multiple times from M16’s up close in the first terminator movie.
i think the difference is the ammo. is T1 everything would have been standard rounds designed to hurt people as much as possible; not as effective against a metal skeleton. here they'd be prepared specifically to fight a terminator using armor piercing rounds
This actor played an evil Terminator perfectly. Cromartie was arguably the smartest and most resourceful Terminator, and that’s saying something. All Terminators that are T-800s or more advanced are very intelligent and fairly resourceful, but Cromartie got all new skin and took on a whole new appearance despite not being a shapeshifter like the T-1000s and more advanced.
Like Jesus,
HE'LL BE BACK!
For Judgement Day..
He returned, but Michael Westen took him down.
Chromartie should have picked up the guns of the fallen. You can never have too many in a time of repeated mass firefights.
Cromartie Saved Ellison's life twice but Cromartie failed and got killed because of Ellison..T_T
He didn't save him because he loves him. He was developing a plan...
When you think about it his plan was for Ellison to lead him to john Connor. It worked😀
Yeah technically everything cromartie did with Ellison was to lead him to Connor and Ellison fulfilled that objective. Problem was Connor was prepared.
Having brian austin green as kyle reace brother was a stroke of genius
Why?
This was GOOD series. Despite Cromarie not self-detonating upon seeing Connors.
They were using armored piercing bullets. Thats how he couldn't handle them.
I actually rooted for Cromartie. The protagonists just weren't likable.
Roguemember not even the female terminator played by summer glau?
@@Dexter101x only her and cromartie. John Connor and Sarah Connor are Boring as hell
I liked them.
@@gus4446 How are they boring?
True
I have my own theory. Much like a zombie, the head of a Terminator unit is the weak point. All the processors and important components are stored in the head, and even if it's armored like the body, the armoring is probably thinner, not as resilient, and possibly not well insulated against the shock that would come from a one ounce slug slamming into it at a velocity of 1,600 feet per second.
Was a depleted uranium slug also
I think the show lost a lot with the death of Cromartie. He was a great antagonist, and without him the rest of the show kind of stumbled on without any compelling direction.
This was epic stuff for tv violence.
garrett dillahunt was also on fear the walking dead as john dorie.
Also bones agent booth friend from Louisiana
nice that cameron used armor pricing shells on cromartie, otherwise, normal buckshot or slugs wouldn't do much damage
@Travis Carlson T-900 are not that advanced than T-888s, parts from a T-888 are still compatible with T-900 and vice versa, as when Allison young (a T-900) had after a fight with Rosie,(name written for a T-888) Allison stashed away Rosie's body as repairs/spare parts, apart from the new fancy brain mapping and various software upgrades and or seperate microprocessors, the T-900s are via design identical to T-888, the T-900's only difference is the infiltrator's design of T-900 is not able to indurate against other terminators unless necessarily vital for missions or other causes like that, with all due respect.
Imo this is the best episode in the show.
Damn Cameron just kept shooting him in the same spot over and over. others should try that. When his head chunked and he fell it was like in the original Fallout 1 & 2 games where the head gibbed and they fell.
Uranium shots that's crazy but sounds cool. So it just eats metal?
Depleted Uranium rounds are a real life bullet. They're made to penetrate armour
The biggest problem is that they can destroy terminators way to ez.. they just destroy him with normal guns..
Everytime a new terminator appears you know: he will survivor for 2 Episodes.
Cromartie was perfect.. he was there since the beginning. He was waiting for John and Saraha for years and we saw him repearing himselt, looking for john and saraha.. he was just perfect.
The only other terminator that was scary was this one with the bald head
Tobi they aren’t normal guns dumbass stfu
they used depleted uranium ammo.
would have been funny if cameron or john had said "hasta la vista baby" before he was terminated
yes
Were these AP rounds or was that a Soft Endo-Terminator? How did they kill him with just 9mm bullets and a 12 gauge?
The 9mm rounds did nothing except distract the terminator from the other one but the 12 guage rounds however were depleted uranium rounds which were more than enough to penetrate the hyperalloy endoskeloton.
@@khaleelurrahman248 where did they get access to depleted uranium rounds?
@@herosjourney8725 Sarah probably got connections
It was funny how we went into all their story’s
Derek: if your there...where’s Cromartie?
CROMARTIE’S STORY
I died when I say that.
Cromartie's aim really went to shit when he entered the church. I guess he didn't believe.
😂👏
Imagine if Cromartie lobbed grenades :) He could precision fuse them too, for effect. New drone/robot fear unlocked ...
Guys, you should react to the special effects in this scene from The Sarah connor Chronicles the Terminator TV show
Terminator TSCC: The Death of Cromartie [HD]
The effects around the terminators face damage near the end in the church look real good for a tv show of that era and budget.
I have two theories why Sarah Conner dies of cancer.
1: in the first movie after Reese's blows the T-800 to pieces :) Sarah gets a piece of the Terminators frame nailed into her leg. It's possible a small piece stayed behind after she pulled it out.
I doubt Skynet gave a fuck about what they added to their crucibles to give the different super aloys err "hyper alloys" (the T-800 series's frame is made of) different metal characteristics.
2. It's cannon that the T-800 was powered by a nuclear battery. and When she crushed it in the metal press at the factory, she was exposed to god knows what.
Another thought crossed my mind: I read somewhere that the line in Terminator 3 where the T-850 is ".....powered by two hydrogen fuel cells. When ruptured bluh bluh blu......"
It was either a script mistake or Arnold fucking the line up, because it was apparently supposed to be "hydrogen fusion cells". On forums guys were saying a "hydrogen fuel cell that size couldn't power the terminator and it would never explode and produce a mini-mushroom cloud. If the line "hydrogen fusion cell" was the correct line, than it all hangs together nicely.
Like another line in "The Terminator" where the first terminator asks for a "phase plasma rifle in the forty watt range". What would 40w do to anything???
But if the line was supposed to be read as "phase plasma rifle in the forty killa-watt range" than that makes much more sense. A plasma bolt with 40KW behind it would probably steam explosion style blow you up like the girl in the battle field flashback dream.
The film with intrigue.
Also to all the fans. Terminator 6 is apparently coming. James Cameron is on board of this one. The movie supposedly disregards all movies after the T2.
after 5 years.. was T6 a good one, in your opinion?
the best series ever.
R.I.P Cromartie. 😳
So that´s what buckshot does to Coltan.
doesn't really look like buckshot cause i don't think lead bbs would go through a titanium alloy
i think slug
According to Hard Knox there's still like a dozen or so left.
If u look closer its almost the same turns arnie made
Such an awesome character and an awesome actor. The original Cromartie was terrible but as soon as this guy took over, he was PERFECT.
I love that prisoner freaking out, and how the Terminator is very in character - the guy is zero threat and not the mission so not worth the ammunition.
Hicieron "llorar aceite" al ciborg, ggg.
They made the cyborg "cry oil tears"
Why does Cameron looks so surprised at 4:24 through 4:28
He didn't expect to fail.
Summer Glau was the best Terminator after Arnold in T2.
Summer with the hair looking like that is gorgeous 😊
Терминатор не убил ни одного безоружнего.
There are a couple of things wrong with this scene, although is quite artistic and nice. A shotgun would NEVER damage a Terminator (and we are talking about a T-888, wich is even harder than a T-800 or a T-850 and the last one even survived at a plasma canon shot). And even if that shot gun was loaded with depleted uranium slugs or bullets, John terminates it with a simply small caliber gun, not even another shot from the shot gun at least!
I know this comment is old, but this is the logic here.
It takes your hands to peel the orange. And a bite to eat it. That simple. Special shotgun rounds exposes the head's internals. Then John finishes it with a 9mm. Eazy peazy.
@@RetroArcadeGuy haha, no problemo with the "old comment".
I guess this scene makes sense for the writers, I asume they had to finish that T-888 in that chapter. But it still looks weird seeing a Terminator that is apparently superior in terms of durability and strengh than a T-850, being defeted by shotguns with special ammo...
@@RetroArcadeGuy I mean... this exact model, chapters ago, survived an explosion that blew it´s head away...
@@rodrigoarias5870 This is true. However, point blank rounds that are depleted uranium will do a lot of damage that even a triple 8, the most advanced of the 8XX models, can't handle them. It may make the Terminator seem weak and vulnerable but it is realistic.
pretty sure the shells where depleted uranium slugs.
The guy playing Cromartie played in Fear the walking dead
Cromartie sounds an awful lot like Sherlock Holmes' nemesis.
Cromartie doesn't kill anyone he doesn't have to
It might have been interesting to explore the idea of a Terminator that was almost completely human. A creature that could drink booze and tell bad jokes, but still a Skynet creation. It would be a creature that would be an exact copy of the original to the molecular level.
Small arms fire killed Chromartie? The T-800 could catch bullets in his teeth and spit them out! What a weak cyborg!
They used Armored Piercing Rounds to terminate Cromartie.
Just without getting too nerdish (technical wrongs...),only from acting p.o.view-the cromatie at this state,is the best interpretation of all,when it comes to hostile sub-t1000models.A well known iconic actor never coul do so well no matter how good he is because the whole purpose of them is being undercover,adapting,infiltration.A well known face prevents the very concept from working,cuz the viewers brain constandly has the"hey,,it's him"function on.But with that guy it was really broken down to very pure acting.Just great! (doesn't meant to lower the actor,his quality after the system switch,just become obvlious)
Tas in a nutshell, until it gets patched at the worst moment
Simon from burn notice! No wonder he made a great terminator
Why didn't Cameron shoot the chip side of Cromartie's head, the way Jesse aims for Queeg's chip?
Because she and everyone else wanted to relish their victory over Cromartie by letting him stay active as John finishes him off.
Much better than Dark Fate!
Yeah, They Went "Bonnie & Clyde" On Him! He Deserved It Though, He Was A Rat In 'Justified', Too.
There use to be a company in Florida that sold some pretty hot 12 ga. rounds they made claims of semi-armor defeating.
Good tv show
did they really have to play that gawdawful song during the kill??
Why simple shotgun bullets can destory chromaties endoskelett head?! 😅😅😅
The brilliance of this scene is not just a homage to the T1 police station scene but the camera angle right behind him like a third person shooter.
John Dorie before ftwd
Quien es el cantante de la cancion de la llorona
Eso mismo digo desde hace tiempo eh tratado de encontrar la música y nada 😂😂🤣😂
This is really like a more peaceful version of typical USA town.
Dont feed the idoits please. Not all US towns are remotely even near this.
The way he just did Alvarez like that? Dirty.
Let’s redo the police station scene from the original and act like it’s original
He was then sent in time forward into a distopyian future where zombies ruled, aka FTWD.
Buckshot.
The T-888 got got by f-in buckshot.
Ok.
Ambushing a Terminator and decide the best guns are *9mm* H&K MP5's?
It would have been more "realistic" if they were using semi auto 50 Cal's or something else heavy hitting that could be believable against a Terminator.
And then Cameron walks up and is using either AP slugs in a big shotgun (shotgun shot is less armour piercing than regular bullets) or a Barrett.50 _mock up_ that looks real but is light enough to be casually welded by a small skinny actress.
Will there be anytime the do not show Mexico as a dirty background for any american shows or movies?
Mexico is mainly portrayed as a place people go to hide out. I don't think people who go there for that reason would go near well developed urban areas but the backwater towns where they can keep a low profile.
It was too easy, even a T-800 wouldn't be killed by normal guns, the T-888 sopouse to be far more durable.
They're using special rounds that were designed to fight Terminators
That guy yelled out Taco.