👍🏻 love that, it’s a great way to thoroughly assess a number of possible length tension relationships in a short amount of time, that are possibly the cause of much discomfort for the person we’re treating 😊
In my experience the Gmed and Gmin due to being 'phasic' type of muscles tend to weaken and subsequently lengthen so that are 'on stretch' so they might palpate as tight, but only because it is on stretch!! However, the TFL is a muscle of posture and these muscles tend to shorten and tighten and these will probably palpate as tight but this time it is in a shortened position. TFL tends to over activate as well as the adductors and Gmed posterior fibres become weak. Hope that helps.
Really tight and to-the-point. Good job and more of this kind would be much appreciated. With regards to the hamstring test, stress on the schiatic nerve is not touched. I often find nerve tension to be much more limiting than the muscles. How do you typically differentiate between the two?
I have a tightness in my left rectus femoris, although my right side is perfectly fine, but I still havent't tested the adducts/abducts. With this guide I know how to test it easily. Thank you!
If a muscle is held in shortened position and 'tight' as a result - then the best treatment is to lengthen using a MET type of technique. This then can have the effect of allowing the opposite muscle to function normally and sometimes no strengthening is needed. regards JG
Thanks John, please could you tell me how you would differentiate between a tight gluetus medius and tfl? as both would produce a recoil and possibly a tight gluetus minimus would cause the leg to raise on adduction....your answer would be much appreciated.
Hi, i had injured my anterior thigh during mountain climb exercise jumps. My rectus femoris and psoaz were tested to be tight. But eventually my hams n glutes show some tightness now (inability to do fig of 4 ). So, i shud be stretching hip flexors only n strengthening glutes without stretching them ?
+ish arora It sounds feasible that you said by stretching the hip flexors and strengthening the Glutes but leave stretching the hamstrings as they probably don't need it. Good luck!
Hi John! Love your videos! Watch them all the time. I have a question... When you internally rotate and adduct the hip/leg to find out if the biceps femoris is short, how "far" should you be able to go before you can say there's a bind (the muscle is short)? For the straight leg raise (the hamstrings as a group), we are looking for 80-90 degrees. Is there such a number for the biceps femoris and the semitendinosus/semi-membranosus? Thank you! :)
Thanks for the message and comments - to answer your question: if the leg is less than 80-90 degrees without any rotation and then you internally rotate and adduct whilst flexing the hip and it only reaches 50 degrees then you know biceps femoris is probably the restrictive tissue because if you externally rotate and abduct and achieve 80 degrees then you know the semi muscles are normal length. Does that make sense? Regards JG
Thanks for the comments and regarding your question, I only internally rotate or externally rotate the hip to specify which hamstring is the tight structure but I only need to do this if the standard ROM of motion for the hamstrings as a whole is less than 80 degrees, so then i can decide if it is the lateral hamstrings or the medial hamstrings that are the tighter structures. Hope that makes sense. Regards JG
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I agree with you that the tension through the sciatic nerve will limit the range of motion for the hamstring. Thanks for the comments
👍🏻 love that, it’s a great way to thoroughly assess a number of possible length tension relationships in a short amount of time, that are possibly the cause of much discomfort for the person we’re treating 😊
Thats very kind of you to say, regards JG
In my experience the Gmed and Gmin due to being 'phasic' type of muscles tend to weaken and subsequently lengthen so that are 'on stretch' so they might palpate as tight, but only because it is on stretch!! However, the TFL is a muscle of posture and these muscles tend to shorten and tighten and these will probably palpate as tight but this time it is in a shortened position. TFL tends to over activate as well as the adductors and Gmed posterior fibres become weak. Hope that helps.
Really tight and to-the-point. Good job and more of this kind would be much appreciated.
With regards to the hamstring test, stress on the schiatic nerve is not touched. I often find nerve tension to be much more limiting than the muscles. How do you typically differentiate between the two?
Beautiful information.
Can you also make videos how to make them free??
Means how to overcome from tightness.
I have many videos explaining the treatments, regards JG
I have a tightness in my left rectus femoris, although my right side is perfectly fine, but I still havent't tested the adducts/abducts.
With this guide I know how to test it easily. Thank you!
+Slyizable Thanks for the message and glad you liked the video....
I love your videos and book , I have learnt more from this that on my course
Glad you like my videos, regards JG
If a muscle is both tight and weak, is it better to strengthen it and then stretch, or stretch and then strengthen?
If a muscle is held in shortened position and 'tight' as a result - then the best treatment is to lengthen using a MET type of technique. This then can have the effect of allowing the opposite muscle to function normally and sometimes no strengthening is needed. regards JG
@@JohnGibbons WOW Thank you so much! :)
Does this test have a good clinical fiability?
It is one test of many that can help, regards JG
@@JohnGibbons thank you John!
Thanks John, please could you tell me how you would differentiate between a tight gluetus medius and tfl? as both would produce a recoil and possibly a tight gluetus minimus would cause the leg to raise on adduction....your answer would be much appreciated.
I like this video! So simple technique!
Thanks as appreciate the comments
always nice to watch videos,,,I have a que how to isolate sartorius and TFL thru thomas test....thanks
extremely comprehensive review
Thanks John! Interesting info there.
Hi, i had injured my anterior thigh during mountain climb exercise jumps. My rectus femoris and psoaz were tested to be tight. But eventually my hams n glutes show some tightness now (inability to do fig of 4 ). So, i shud be stretching hip flexors only n strengthening glutes without stretching them ?
+ish arora It sounds feasible that you said by stretching the hip flexors and strengthening the Glutes but leave stretching the hamstrings as they probably don't need it. Good luck!
Hi John! Love your videos! Watch them all the time. I have a question... When you internally rotate and adduct the hip/leg to find out if the biceps femoris is short, how "far" should you be able to go before you can say there's a bind (the muscle is short)? For the straight leg raise (the hamstrings as a group), we are looking for 80-90 degrees. Is there such a number for the biceps femoris and the semitendinosus/semi-membranosus? Thank you! :)
Thanks for the message and comments - to answer your question: if the leg is less than 80-90 degrees without any rotation and then you internally rotate and adduct whilst flexing the hip and it only reaches 50 degrees then you know biceps femoris is probably the restrictive tissue because if you externally rotate and abduct and achieve 80 degrees then you know the semi muscles are normal length. Does that make sense? Regards JG
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Thanks for the comments and regarding your question, I only internally rotate or externally rotate the hip to specify which hamstring is the tight structure but I only need to do this if the standard ROM of motion for the hamstrings as a whole is less than 80 degrees, so then i can decide if it is the lateral hamstrings or the medial hamstrings that are the tighter structures. Hope that makes sense. Regards JG
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how can she have short hamstrings and rec fem??