Nirvana vs Courtney Love: The Court Battle Over Kurt’s Music, Rivalry Between Dave Grohl & Courtney

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
  • The rivalry between Dave Grohl, Krist Novoselic & Courtney Love is the stuff of rock infamy. The trio went to court back in 2001 after Courtney tried to block the release of ‘You Know You’re Right’, a track the band recorded a few months before Cobain’s death. Despite the remaining Nirvana members wanting to place the unreleased song on a boxset to commemorate Cobain, Love thought the track would be better suited to a single disc collection. Her lawsuit deemed the song “a potential hit of extraordinary artistic and commercial value.”
    After a tiring feud, with most of the attacks launched by Love, the pair made up in 2014 when Nirvana were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Love told Pitchfork that they reconciled backstage, “On my way to the bathroom, I saw Grohl, and Grohl saw me, and he came up to me, and I was like, ‘Alright, no matter what happens, we’re not going to be bastards.’ This was my attitude going in and obviously his. Not much else needs to be said. We both knew it was time to let go. We were ready to do it. It’s been twenty years. We didn’t even talk at the funeral, none of us. So 20 years of Dave bashing and me bashing, making it worse. All that stuff, the legal stuff, the trial. We just buried it. It was really deep.”
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Комментарии • 128

  • @Emily-the_funny_guys
    @Emily-the_funny_guys 9 месяцев назад +20

    Good on Frances for calling it her mum on her lies. Dave Grohl is an extremely talented musician in his own right. I think Courtney was jealous of that

  • @astrozombie548
    @astrozombie548 9 месяцев назад +12

    I can't believe in four months it's gonna be 30 YEARS since Kurt "died"!!. ROCK IN PEACE KURT!. You are a legendary genius and although you're no longer with us,you've left us with some of the BEST MUSIC EVER MADE!, and at least that will never leave us..🙏

  • @KaylaHiggins92
    @KaylaHiggins92 9 месяцев назад +16

    She accused him of hitting on her underage daughter. Courtney can really hate. I don’t know him personally but I’ve always thought Dave seemed like a decent guy.

    • @AmericanSpyFox
      @AmericanSpyFox 9 месяцев назад +11

      Frances Bean made a public statement through her Instagram that her Mom lied about this and all her and Dave talked about was her Dad, Kurt.

    • @righthand7965
      @righthand7965 8 месяцев назад +1

      Courtney killed Kurt

  • @astrozombie548
    @astrozombie548 9 месяцев назад +9

    "Thing's have never been so swell, Courtney Love you're going to hell!! "....

  • @jesseb5076
    @jesseb5076 8 месяцев назад +3

    Imagine thinking you should own the rights to someone’s music that in the end didn’t want to be with you and who’s daughter doesn’t even want to know…. Yet she will fight for $$$$

  • @tas5686
    @tas5686 6 месяцев назад +2

    One thing people need to remember is that Kurt was a full blown heroin addict in the last year of his life. When most people are that deep in an addiction they tend to hate anyone who isn't an addict. I think there was even a quote somewhere by Krist (I think it was him?) saying how Kurt was pushing him and everyone else away and living with junkies in his final months.

    • @JavierCastillo-vc8ih
      @JavierCastillo-vc8ih 4 месяца назад

      Junkies are a very insular xenophobic group. They do not want non-users around them. They will tell a non-user hanging out to go away, get the hell out of here. In an interview with Dave Grohl, he was asked if he hung around Kurt Corbin near the end and he very adamantly stated no. He then explained that you were either in that clique of heroin users or you were not, and if you were not a user then you were not welcome to them to the point of being shunned

  • @boneappletea3858
    @boneappletea3858 9 месяцев назад +5

    I love that it was leaked and how that forced their hands.

  • @franniefromvenice
    @franniefromvenice 9 месяцев назад +42

    Courtney Love's only redeeming quality is that she helped Mark Lanegan go to rehab. That's it.

    • @fogpumas
      @fogpumas 9 месяцев назад +12

      Literally the only thing. And I’m sure she had an ulterior motive.

    • @reaIIifebootbaby
      @reaIIifebootbaby 9 месяцев назад +3

      Honestly, that's debatable.

    • @RowShawnBow
      @RowShawnBow 9 месяцев назад +1

      Wow, I didn’t know that

    • @AwareWolfOnWheels
      @AwareWolfOnWheels 9 месяцев назад +2

      Debatable.

    • @Hawkeyefoxspirit
      @Hawkeyefoxspirit 9 месяцев назад +11

      She also tried to sleep with Mark on more than one occasion. Apparently he turned her down over his bond with Kurt. She’s a very scary and dangerous woman who deserves jail.

  • @DepthWish
    @DepthWish 9 месяцев назад +2

    grohl does respond to the assertion that kurt didn't like him in some interviews, maybe more recently. I think he said that looking at old photos they were laughing and stuff like that...

  • @AmericanSpyFox
    @AmericanSpyFox 9 месяцев назад +1

    I have to admit, I love the 80s synth rock in the background, and the thumbnail is hilarious.

  • @Leofwine.
    @Leofwine. 9 месяцев назад +3

    Great vid mate. This is a top channel for us Gen X refugees.

  • @philbis2774
    @philbis2774 9 месяцев назад +5

    She is so selfish if Kurt had never met Love he would still be alive today
    I stand with Krist Novoselic & Grohl,

    • @Danathema
      @Danathema 9 месяцев назад +2

      No, he wouldn't, he'd have been dead long before he actually was.

  • @lesleywhibley
    @lesleywhibley 9 месяцев назад +4

    She always wanted to control nirvana but that's NOT her band and never will be.

  • @theshapeexists
    @theshapeexists 6 месяцев назад +1

    Anyone on Courtneys side obviously never saw her behavior during this period of time. She was off the handle drunk and high and just a generally miserable person. I couldn't stand her.

  • @Panda-nc2bx
    @Panda-nc2bx 9 месяцев назад +3

    “You broke up the band yoko”

  • @boneappletea3858
    @boneappletea3858 9 месяцев назад +5

    Flash in the pan? A flash in the pan doesn't go on selling and influencing like Nirvana. Nirvana may have been short-lived, but a 'flash in the pan' is a completely wrong way of describing them or what they did. A flash in the pan doesn't get in the rock n roll hall of fame.

    • @Dan_Soundgar
      @Dan_Soundgar 7 месяцев назад

      I think a "flash in the pan" reminds me of the old camera flashes, the thing that held powdered magnesium "that explodes brightly when the camera goes off",how is that not the perfect description. I loved the era and music of Nirvana, and you must admit that is exactly what happened.

    • @boneappletea3858
      @boneappletea3858 7 месяцев назад

      @Robthemoviewatcher no I don't. That phrase is meant to demean someone or a group that was only famous or important for a short while as if they didn't have enough to sustain anything but a quick flash. That doesn't apply to Nirvana because despite the short time they were around, they keep living on by inspring and affecting way more than that phrase implies. Flahes in a pan don't amount to much. Nirvana did and does. You can think whatever you want.

    • @Dan_Soundgar
      @Dan_Soundgar 7 месяцев назад

      @@boneappletea3858 guess I read in literally, not demoralizing or demeaning, I was thinking of the pre-electrical camera flashes

    • @Dan_Soundgar
      @Dan_Soundgar 7 месяцев назад

      I think it was misused, be it that the case

    • @Dan_Soundgar
      @Dan_Soundgar 7 месяцев назад

      I think of bon appetit as a term used, to mean: welcome to enjoy your meal, not bone apple tea, but what the hell would I know

  • @ivanagustinortiz5237
    @ivanagustinortiz5237 9 месяцев назад +6

    The difference when she said "brother Krist... Mister Grohl" I'm guessing she still resents him or doesn't have him in as high regard as she does Krist.

    • @buddingvenus81
      @buddingvenus81 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, Krist has played along with her little games while Grohl hasn’t.

    • @ashwinters9315
      @ashwinters9315 9 месяцев назад

      Yeah, boo hoo! Who gives a f””k what she thinks. I’m sure Dave won’t loose any sleep

    • @ivanagustinortiz5237
      @ivanagustinortiz5237 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@ashwinters9315 oh absolutely, she's crazy. Only good thing she did was help Mark Lanegan, and even that was tainted by her own madness.

    • @scooterruns9355
      @scooterruns9355 9 месяцев назад

      @@buddingvenus81 and neither of them Kurt think did anything but take his own life. but you know more about what happened to Kurt than they do right?

  • @jarrodf_
    @jarrodf_ 9 месяцев назад +5

    Sociopaths going to sociopath. No statute of limitations on murder, Courtney.

    • @chestrockwell6807
      @chestrockwell6807 9 месяцев назад +1

      no murder took place there Einstein. your hero was a depressed addict who took his own life and bailed on his family.

    • @jarrodf_
      @jarrodf_ 9 месяцев назад

      @chestrockwell6807
      - Suicide note: only text related to suicide at bottom of page in larger, seemingly different handwriting; body of letter appears to be Nirvana retirement letter
      - Courtney's handwriting practice pad: Courtney's lawyer found a handwriting practice pad in Courtney's handbag which was left at the lawyer's house
      - Courtney's 'get arrested' alibi note: in same handbag was a reminder note from Courtney saying 'get arrested', which coincidentally Courtney was arrested at time of Kurt's death
      - Fatal dose of heroin: autopsy reveals Kurt had a level of heroin which, as Courtney's PI, Tom Grant, says 'no human in history has ever not died instantly with such a level recorded, five times the fatal level, even for heavy users'; let alone have enough time to apparently neatly pack away the heroin kit for some reason, aim the gun and shoot.
      It's for these and other unusual events why Courtney's PI, Tom Grant, says 'Kurt did not commit suicide with '100% certainty'

    • @chestrockwell6807
      @chestrockwell6807 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@jarrodf_ no human in history ever had 225mg in their system before? that's completely untrue. there is peer reviewed medical research showing daily users functioning on more than a gram. Your five times the fatal level claim is complete made up nonsense. Five separate forensic handwriting experts plus Kurt's own mother have all said the entire note was written by Cobain. who cares what con man Tom Grant who's been profiting off this conspiracy theory garbage for years has to say. Kurt absolutely took his own life and there's a mountain of evidence proving it.

    • @chestrockwell6807
      @chestrockwell6807 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@jarrodf_ five separate forensic handwriting experts plus Kurt's own mother have all said the note is 100 percent authentic written entirely by Cobain. There is also peer reviewed medical research showing daily users like Kurt functioning on more than a gram which is far more than the 225mg Kurt had in his system. Your "nobody in history" claim is laughable nonsense you just made up.

    • @JavierCastillo-vc8ih
      @JavierCastillo-vc8ih 4 месяца назад +1

      @@jarrodf_ . Kurt's junkie habit made Courtney look sober by comparison. His junkie friends wold flee the scene when Kurt shot up because they thought he would OD on the spot with the amount he used, and he was utterly ashamed of his addiction. The intervention sent him over the edge, but his problems had been building for years. Bipolar disorder, chronic stomach pain, addiction, a family history of self-deletion, childhood trauma, previous self-deletion attempts & the stresses of stardom and fatherhood made Kurt the posterboy for self deletion. Have you ever really listened to In Utero? That whole album is just one massive self-deletion note.

  • @fogpumas
    @fogpumas 9 месяцев назад +11

    7:50 I just can’t believe his band mates can stand on stage next to her giving a speech about how he would have appreciated all this, knowing full well she was involved in his death.

    • @BurnsidePDX72
      @BurnsidePDX72 9 месяцев назад +12

      🙄 Because they aren't crazy, misogynistic, conspiracy theorists. They were around and you weren't, so they have first hand knowledge.

    • @dewilew2137
      @dewilew2137 9 месяцев назад

      You’re SO pathetic.

    • @dewilew2137
      @dewilew2137 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@BurnsidePDX72 THANK YOU!!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • @Danathema
      @Danathema 9 месяцев назад +2

      Isn't it amazing how not a single person who was close to him has ever supported this "murder" nonsense, even the ones who utterly loathe Courtney Love and have no reason to protect her?
      Isn't it amazing how every single person who has been pushing this murder nonsense hard never actually met Cobain, appeared publicly after his death and only pipe up when it's time to grift some $$$$$$$ off of Cobain's fans? None of these people ever bring their so-called "smoking gun" evidence to the police and continue to just sit there profiting off of it.
      Isn't it amazing how these people have to resort to tricking and misleading any expert they interview into making it look like they agree with them when they don't? It's almost like if you had any kind of case, none of this would be even remotely necessary!
      Isn't it amazing how his wife, friends, family and bandmates may know more about Kurt Cobain than a so-called fan who never met him?
      Isn't it amazing how these people may know more about his death than you because they were around when it happened and watched the last few months of his life play out?
      Isn't it amazing how murder theorists have never ponied up a single piece of evidence that would stand up in any kind of court of law?

  • @tracy7799
    @tracy7799 9 месяцев назад +16

    Personal opinion, if Kurt had never met Love? Though Cobain had issues he wouldn't have ended up being taken out like garbage. Watch who you get involved with. As far as the ongoing cat fight between Dave and love? No comment.

    • @dewilew2137
      @dewilew2137 9 месяцев назад

      Shut up.

    • @heisenberg6234
      @heisenberg6234 9 месяцев назад +1

      So no Heart shaped box 😢😢

    • @tracy7799
      @tracy7799 9 месяцев назад +1

      Love Heart shaped box 💝🍎

    • @StefanieNettke
      @StefanieNettke 9 месяцев назад +2

      She has used the " grieving widow" card to stay relevant. She couldn't even write her own songs, Billy Corrigan & Kurt wrote them for her. Billy even said so in an interview....

    • @tracy7799
      @tracy7799 9 месяцев назад

      @@StefanieNettke Bingo❤️‍🩹

  • @Dylin91
    @Dylin91 9 месяцев назад

    Well, you can’t say she’s wrong 3:51

  • @maraweisl3709
    @maraweisl3709 9 месяцев назад +13

    Shes a jerk 😢 always mean selfish forever more

  • @righthand7965
    @righthand7965 8 месяцев назад

    Grohl knows Courtney killed Kurt

  • @dewilew2137
    @dewilew2137 9 месяцев назад +7

    That is not the reason that Krist didn’t attend the wedding. I believe he was fighting with Kurt at the time. Courtney haters have tried to spin the narrative into him disagreeing with their relationship, but that’s not true.
    Any grown man who would be so against another grown man’s relationship, that he wouldn’t attend their wedding, is not a friend. Unless the woman he’s marrying is a cheater, a serial killer, a child molester, a thief, or something else horrible, it’s none of his business. It’s not anyone responsibility to police the romantic life of another adult. Y’all infantilize Kurt so much, that you’ve taken away all of his free will and agency. You essentially claim that you know more about him that he does himself, and that you know what’s best for him. You don’t. You didn’t even know him. Yet you believe that you know what was best for his personal romantic life? It’s weird and honestly pathetic. Y’all represent the antithesis everything that Nirvana stood for, and you’re not even smart enough to realize it.

    • @edadick1625
      @edadick1625 9 месяцев назад

      Actually, it was because of Shelley, Krist's girlfriend.

    • @hutdweller7430
      @hutdweller7430 9 месяцев назад

      high and mighty!

    • @Danathema
      @Danathema 9 месяцев назад +2

      Parasocial relationships, you can't beat 'em.

    • @Nilhan-ut7cs
      @Nilhan-ut7cs 9 месяцев назад

      She was behind his death.What else could she be? All Apologies?

    • @scooterruns9355
      @scooterruns9355 9 месяцев назад

      @@Nilhan-ut7cs no she wasn't weirdo

  • @niteshades_promise
    @niteshades_promise 9 месяцев назад +4

    Am i shadow banned? Will this comment post?🤐🍻

  • @IloveKurtCobain-z5k
    @IloveKurtCobain-z5k 9 месяцев назад +4

    #jutsticeforkurt

  • @fogpumas
    @fogpumas 9 месяцев назад +7

    5:44 that’s the only true thing she claimed here. It’s fairly well documented (in his own words) that Kurt didn’t really like Dave by the end. He was absolutely a hired him too. The heart and soul of Nirvana is Kurt and Krist.

    • @ashwinters9315
      @ashwinters9315 9 месяцев назад

      That goes without saying but they were in the band as a whole. She wasn’t

    • @chestrockwell6807
      @chestrockwell6807 9 месяцев назад

      @@ashwinters9315 yea and so what?

  • @bobair2
    @bobair2 9 месяцев назад

    Meh.

  • @MoshJunkie426
    @MoshJunkie426 9 месяцев назад +6

    Some people are so shameless theyll use their husbands death to further their own career even decades later

    • @ashwinters9315
      @ashwinters9315 9 месяцев назад +1

      If they were just hired guns then she’s “just” his wife

    • @MoshJunkie426
      @MoshJunkie426 9 месяцев назад

      @@ashwinters9315 seriously how can you downplay their role in one of the most important bands in music

    • @ashwinters9315
      @ashwinters9315 9 месяцев назад +1

      No I agree totally. I was just going on how she views them when she had nothing to do with their music. I can’t imagine what Dave and krist must have felt no being able to release their songs

    • @MoshJunkie426
      @MoshJunkie426 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@ashwinters9315 yeah kind of ridiculous, even if kurt wrote a lot of the music Dave and Krist still are a part of it and it's their music too

    • @chestrockwell6807
      @chestrockwell6807 9 месяцев назад

      @@ashwinters9315 how do you be "just" someone's wife?

  • @LaurieMarieValdezRNCCRN
    @LaurieMarieValdezRNCCRN 9 месяцев назад

    🇺🇲☦️🏥🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟❤️‍🔥👣

  • @lava-yq7tf
    @lava-yq7tf 9 месяцев назад

    bruh

  • @anniedarkhorse6791
    @anniedarkhorse6791 9 месяцев назад +1

    Nirvana - what an over-rated band. Cobain's Daughter should be getting more than a 1/3 of everything Grohl and Novaselic make from Nirvana music. Grohl's got a hide trying to rip off her and Love over Cobain's music. I'm fed up with Courtney Love getting dragged through the mud. It's just misogyny. All this acting like Cobain wasn't master of his own destiny and like Love killed him is just sexist crap.

    • @stephengarrett5808
      @stephengarrett5808 9 месяцев назад

      💩💩💩💩💩🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩loser🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @stephengarrett5808
      @stephengarrett5808 9 месяцев назад +1

      Annie dark horse needs to get out more…

    • @TheAtomicPunkLmao
      @TheAtomicPunkLmao 9 месяцев назад +2

      I find it sexist that you're immediately jumping to Courtney's side simply because its two men up against a woman who has unprovable accusations of bad things. Courtney was an addict and being married to an addict will only further your drug addictions. Also, is 1/3 of everything made by a band with three members really unfair? Let's do some basic maths, Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic were two of the three members, meaning they get two thirds. Even split, fair as you can get. Now, left, there's one third. That one third is all there is to be inhereted by Kurt's estate.

    • @Danathema
      @Danathema 9 месяцев назад

      @@TheAtomicPunkLmao Kurt Cobain wrote all Nirvana's songs, they are songwriting credits that go to his estate, Krist and Dave have no claim on them. You may think that's unfair but take it up with Kurt as he's the one who organized this.

    • @TheAtomicPunkLmao
      @TheAtomicPunkLmao 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@Danathema Kurt did not write the drums or bass to those songs, and Krist was more involved in the organisation than you seem to think. Nirvana was initially just him and Kurt, and they were the only constant members. Krist also got them their first record deal.