I'm gonna chime in with all of the others who agree that Logic "Pro" for the iPad is fine. As others have stated, there are more than enough features to get, in the end, professional results. I think part of the "it's not pro" camp have expected this to be a one-per-one likeness between the desktop version and the iOS version. Did we get everything we wanted, out of the gate? No. It's a 1.0 product that will get built upon. I'm frankly surprised by how much they were able to pack here; a ridiculous amount of stock plugins, getting the mixer to fit in, and, lest we forget, this is a "grounds-up" rewrite for the touch environment. Also, less pro because it doesn't support VSTs? Nah, it's gonna be up to the vendors to decide if they want to do that for the iOS environment and do it in AUv3, just like every other iOS DAW out there. Again, no less Pro for that; the ridiculouss amount of stock plugins, the existing AUv3s that are pro-level (Fabfilter being a big one). People should just enjoy using Logic Pro for iPad for what it is, just as I'm sure it was with Logic Pro for desktop before it got built with features over time, instead of getting hung up over semantics. I think it's far and away the best DAW for the iOS environment right now, and I very much look forward to competing DAWs stepping up game (looking at you, Ableton). I salute Apple for showing what's possible, and for 1.0, despite the bugs and lack of features that I want to see, it's earned its "Pro" cred.
Honestly some features in the desktop version most people won't even need. I can compose, edit, automate, mix and master a song in Logic on the iPad and your ears would never know the difference. I'm tired of the RUclips cappin' out here. I even followed a Streaky mixing course step by step and did everything he did in the course. Your mind is the only thing that can limit you. There are great instruments and effects in iOS now. Not all of your big boys have ported over yet but you have enough to get the job done. Plus, with the ability to start on desktop and switch to the iPad, and vice versa, the possibilities are endless. Earlier today I started a song with Omnisphere on the MacBook, did my drums, my arrangement, and organizing in the iPad. Now it's my choice to either mix it on the iPad or on my MacBook. Y'all need to think possibilities not limitations. Theres's my 2 cents.
People it’s literally the first version on iPad…. logic is a mature software that been out for decades on the Mac…. anybody thought that the iPad version was gonna be exactly doesn’t understand software….. just wait-and-see where logic pro on iPad is a year from now once it’s gotten a few updates
I'm heavily invested in NI and KK so Logic on iPad is (currently) a non-starter for me. I hate that because my iPad Pro is actually far more powerful than my '20 Intel MBP.
The fact that it misses things from the desktop version doesn’t mean they shouldn’t call the iPad version Pro. It does allow you to create pro results, especially with the full mixing capabilities and use of auv3. Of course it will not replace a studio setup, but so far it has enabled me to do full productions on the go (and on the couch). I look forward to further development and I will keep using both versions. My 2 cents.
I too am looking forward to see where this is going …but As I stated in a previous comment It’s missing things that are core to what logic “pro” has been for decades…let me ask you this…if they took two cameras off of the iPhone pro…made it the size of the iPhone SE…decreased the battery life & screen brightness…gave it a less powerful processor…but then said to you “this is the new iPhone pro!” You’d be like “Naa it’s not the iPhone pro…” is it still an iPhone? Absolutely…can I still do some of the things that the iPhone pro can do? Yup! But does it have everything that the iPhone pro has? Nope!!! So it’s not “pro”….just call it “Logic For IPad” and call it a day..no one would be mad…they would understand that this isn’t the Logic ”Pro “ that we all know and love…I’m not saying it’s terrible or bad…I’m just like don’t call it an “iPhone pro” when it’s clearly just an “iPhone”
@@Johnmike As you explain it here I agree that Logic for iPad would have been a more suitable name. But Apple has been wearing out the Pro name in many products anyway. 😁 The main thing that bothers me a little is the amount of touches needed to switch between screens and to set up the session.
@@zero2herobeatspaul882 yea if they had just said “Logic For iPad” I wouldn’t have made this video lol…and yup that’s their trademark…just throw “pro” on it and charge more for it lol
I’m gonna have to disagree here big bro. Because Logic was Pro before all of the features you mentioned were added with the launch of Logic Pro X. If you remember when Pro X launched, a lot of people were saying “it’s not pro yet-logic 9 is better.” The first gen release usually has 75% of what “pro” users want until they release the next version. Old school heads would say it’s not “pro” to do drum replacement-mic it right the first time lol; flex pitch? Sing it right the first time! lol. The cake is there, the flavor is there, it’s just missing a lil icing. The next set of updates should be great.
Totally correct…but my push back would be instead of adding features…they took away a ton…but still called it “Pro” Logic Pro X introduced a ton of new features while maintaining the core functionality that 9 had…and then they built upon it until we got where we are… as far as drum replacement…I don’t replace…I layer great recorded drums with great recorded samples to get a beefier sound…and in this day and time everyone gets tuned…I’ve gotten vocals in from the greatest singers in my industry…still had to tune them…but I agree that the next set of updates will more than likely make this way better…that’s why I did the vid…to call attention to these things I want to see in the next update!
In your opinion but I respectfully disagree. Of course you have the desktop version and you’re not going to like all the things with the IPad app. Does not make it NOT professional does it? I’ve used a particular DAW for over 27 years and I tried to switch to Reaper but found lots of things that hindered my ‘workflow’. Does that mean Reaper isn’t PRO? Of course not. Logic Pro IOS is optimised for a particular workflow and you cannot bring your desktop mindset to it.
I respect your perspective…and actually don’t totally disagree with it…I think when they call it “Logic Pro” it adds a level of expectation to those that use it…I think just calling it “Logic” plain and simple would’ve made it more digestible and lowered expectations
Regarding VSTs: Actually you (the VST manufacturer) need to re-compile your plug-in as AUv3 and you're good to go. Just take a look a moog's model D or model 15, works perfectly on macOS and iOS.
Something I’m exploring(as a developer) but there’s a bit more intricacies that go into it…just not a click this then that and recompile…otherwise everyone would have done that by now…but the biggest reason why companies don’t is the bottom line…the iOS market isn’t as lucrative as the desktop market is…on the desktop market I can easily charge $100-$500 for an audio plugin…on iOS those margins are $10-$50…yes iOS is a large market…BUT to add insult to injury of not being able to charge what you would on desktop you also have to give apple 30% of every sale off the App Store…this is why most devs are holding out on moving to the platform…
If you can get professional results from it then its (PRO) you can not say something is not pro because its missing things that you would like to see added to the app.
It’s missing things that are core to what logic “pro” has been for decades…let me ask you this…if they took two cameras off of the iPhone pro…made it the size of the iPhone SE…decreased the battery life & screen brightness…gave it a less powerful processor…but then said to you “this is the new iPhone pro!” You’d be like “Naa it’s not the iPhone pro…” is it still an iPhone? Absolutely…can I still do some of the things that the iPhone pro can do? Yup! But does it have everything that the iPhone pro has? Nope!!! So it’s not “pro”….just call it “Logic For IPad” and call it a day..no one would be mad…they would understand that this isn’t the Logic ”Pro “ that we all know and love…I’m not saying it’s terrible or bad…I’m just like don’t call it an “iPhone pro” when it’s clearly just an iPhone
@@Johnmike your point still Does not prove that you can not get professional results from the program tho. You can still get a professional finished product fro. Logic Pro even with the limitations that you pointed out.
@@Ryanthemusicianyea but “pro results” is subjective…and that line is gonna change with everyone you talk to…you can get “pro results” from anything…the only real meter to measure where that line is that separates “basic” from “pro” is the feature set it offers to the end users…if I have a product that I have created for “pros” and I name it so…any subsequent version I create is going to be measured under that lens…I can’t give you Ableton with only 8 tracks, no aux buses, no access to 3rd party VSTs or complex warping features and then call it “Ableton Standard” but if I call it Ableton lite then it makes sense…can I still get “pro results” out of Ableton Lite? Absolutely…is it “the same” as Ableton standard? Not at all…
@@Johnmike Subjective how exactly? You can literally get a professional mix and master from the app if you know how to use the tools that are present instead of being concerned about the tools that are not. And just because something has less features as its counterpart still does not mean its not a professional tool.
@@Ryanthemusician subjective by definition means that it’s based on someone else’s feelings or opinions and not based on facts or a common shared reality…meaning if you ask 3 people you’ll get 3 different answers based on how they feel or perceive…what’s “pro” to me won’t be “pro” to you and vice versa…I did a whole live stream mixing in logic a couple weeks ago…I’ve attempted to produce with it…it’s an amazing tool…it’s a great “companion” app to the desktop…but not as self-contained as it needs to be…I need to be able to take my iPad into a professional environment and only work on it…not having to bounce back over to the desktop in order to perform a certain task…I realize that it’s severely limited by the iPad OS and my “subjective” opinion is that they could’ve rolled this out better/named it better to mange the expectations of their core user base…
It sounds not ready for Pro use and it’s only available by subscription. If it could be purchased you could buy and update it as Apple improves it. However, paying for software monthly that’s not ready is not good. I understand that it is meant for mobile impromptu work but still you need certain features that aren’t available.
Thank you for confirming what I already suspected…. Also, I absolutely refuse to pay for a subscription. I’ve been using logic since Logic Express!! Ill just continue with my MacBook Pro when I’m away from my desktop Mac .
I don’t think anyone should have expected logic on iPad to be as extensive and intricate as Logic Pro x, logic for desktop is literally the best DAW available
Hello, what great videos of yours, thank you for your content. I am from Colombia and I come to your channel to learn. I wanted to ask you if you could suddenly recommend a 61-key Midi Controller that fits well with Logic pro X. Your suggestions would be very helpful to me. Thank you!!!
I want to create some basic beats before I go to sleep they export them to my PC do you think it's worth it and works. Im going to get an ipad Air 5 do you think 64gb it's enough for this kind of workflow
This tiresome knocking of an incredibly capable DAW by desktop users points only to their obsession with comparing the number of features a DAW has instead of looking at their own incompetance of producing quality professional results without a ton of features to correct inadequacies of both engineer and artists. Engineers and artists of yesteryear would have looked at todays Logic Pro on Ipad as a miracle of technology compared to the tools they had at there disposal. With those minimal tools they still produced professional results surpassing many of today's so called engineers. To all desktop engineers I can only say, you already have your desktop DAW. If you don't like the ipad version then simply don't invest in it.
I wonder about people who spend so much time complaining about what their software does and doesn’t do, what do you do? Some of the greatest music the world has ever heard was created by people who had nothing more than their voice, and instrument and a glorified tape recorder..and that’s all they needed.
If I sent you na sayers a Mix Template for Logic Pro on the iPad would you know your way around it? Probably not. Summing tracks, Subgroup, Summing tracks put into subgroups, submix tracks? Do you y'all know this is possible in the iPad version? Or is it because you don't have some of your desktop stuff you feel like you can't create? Learn the tools, know the tools and you can get what ever results you want. I'm up for the challenge if ya'll are drop ya emails and let's make it happen.
Dude I’ve made mixing templates for logic on the iPad based off my desktop version….I run a whole website where I teach and educate people how to mix/produce… I very much know what is and isn’t possible…. Which is why I made the video… I recently mixed a 100+ track song on my iPad which prompted me to do the whole video… but anyone that’s interested can get the iPad version of my template here: gospelproducers.com/product/gospel-mixing-template-for-logic-profor-ipad/
Even before it was released I thought it would be naive to think it would be equal with the desktop. So just pointing out that it’s not equal to desktop is a non issue. Even if it does have “Pro” in the title. I don’t think it was meant to be taken that literally. It’s an iPad. I’m sorry but this is a “cup half empty” review. And lastly, think of all the features the desktop version has now compared to when you first started using it. This is the first version of Logic iOS.
I'm gonna chime in with all of the others who agree that Logic "Pro" for the iPad is fine. As others have stated, there are more than enough features to get, in the end, professional results. I think part of the "it's not pro" camp have expected this to be a one-per-one likeness between the desktop version and the iOS version. Did we get everything we wanted, out of the gate? No. It's a 1.0 product that will get built upon. I'm frankly surprised by how much they were able to pack here; a ridiculous amount of stock plugins, getting the mixer to fit in, and, lest we forget, this is a "grounds-up" rewrite for the touch environment. Also, less pro because it doesn't support VSTs? Nah, it's gonna be up to the vendors to decide if they want to do that for the iOS environment and do it in AUv3, just like every other iOS DAW out there. Again, no less Pro for that; the ridiculouss amount of stock plugins, the existing AUv3s that are pro-level (Fabfilter being a big one). People should just enjoy using Logic Pro for iPad for what it is, just as I'm sure it was with Logic Pro for desktop before it got built with features over time, instead of getting hung up over semantics. I think it's far and away the best DAW for the iOS environment right now, and I very much look forward to competing DAWs stepping up game (looking at you, Ableton). I salute Apple for showing what's possible, and for 1.0, despite the bugs and lack of features that I want to see, it's earned its "Pro" cred.
Honestly some features in the desktop version most people won't even need. I can compose, edit, automate, mix and master a song in Logic on the iPad and your ears would never know the difference. I'm tired of the RUclips cappin' out here. I even followed a Streaky mixing course step by step and did everything he did in the course. Your mind is the only thing that can limit you. There are great instruments and effects in iOS now. Not all of your big boys have ported over yet but you have enough to get the job done. Plus, with the ability to start on desktop and switch to the iPad, and vice versa, the possibilities are endless. Earlier today I started a song with Omnisphere on the MacBook, did my drums, my arrangement, and organizing in the iPad. Now it's my choice to either mix it on the iPad or on my MacBook. Y'all need to think possibilities not limitations. Theres's my 2 cents.
People it’s literally the first version on iPad…. logic is a mature software that been out for decades on the Mac…. anybody thought that the iPad version was gonna be exactly doesn’t understand software….. just wait-and-see where logic pro on iPad is a year from now once it’s gotten a few updates
I'm heavily invested in NI and KK so Logic on iPad is (currently) a non-starter for me. I hate that because my iPad Pro is actually far more powerful than my '20 Intel MBP.
The fact that it misses things from the desktop version doesn’t mean they shouldn’t call the iPad version Pro. It does allow you to create pro results, especially with the full mixing capabilities and use of auv3. Of course it will not replace a studio setup, but so far it has enabled me to do full productions on the go (and on the couch). I look forward to further development and I will keep using both versions. My 2 cents.
I too am looking forward to see where this is going …but As I stated in a previous comment It’s missing things that are core to what logic “pro” has been for decades…let me ask you this…if they took two cameras off of the iPhone pro…made it the size of the iPhone SE…decreased the battery life & screen brightness…gave it a less powerful processor…but then said to you “this is the new iPhone pro!” You’d be like “Naa it’s not the iPhone pro…” is it still an iPhone? Absolutely…can I still do some of the things that the iPhone pro can do? Yup! But does it have everything that the iPhone pro has? Nope!!! So it’s not “pro”….just call it “Logic For IPad” and call it a day..no one would be mad…they would understand that this isn’t the Logic ”Pro “ that we all know and love…I’m not saying it’s terrible or bad…I’m just like don’t call it an “iPhone pro” when it’s clearly just an “iPhone”
@@Johnmike As you explain it here I agree that Logic for iPad would have been a more suitable name. But Apple has been wearing out the Pro name in many products anyway. 😁
The main thing that bothers me a little is the amount of touches needed to switch between screens and to set up the session.
@@zero2herobeatspaul882 yea if they had just said “Logic For iPad” I wouldn’t have made this video lol…and yup that’s their trademark…just throw “pro” on it and charge more for it lol
I just said the exact same thing I agree with you
@@Johnmike CAP. Do you know how to mix John Mike?
I’m gonna have to disagree here big bro. Because Logic was Pro before all of the features you mentioned were added with the launch of Logic Pro X. If you remember when Pro X launched, a lot of people were saying “it’s not pro yet-logic 9 is better.” The first gen release usually has 75% of what “pro” users want until they release the next version. Old school heads would say it’s not “pro” to do drum replacement-mic it right the first time lol; flex pitch? Sing it right the first time! lol.
The cake is there, the flavor is there, it’s just missing a lil icing. The next set of updates should be great.
Totally correct…but my push back would be instead of adding features…they took away a ton…but still called it “Pro” Logic Pro X introduced a ton of new features while maintaining the core functionality that 9 had…and then they built upon it until we got where we are… as far as drum replacement…I don’t replace…I layer great recorded drums with great recorded samples to get a beefier sound…and in this day and time everyone gets tuned…I’ve gotten vocals in from the greatest singers in my industry…still had to tune them…but I agree that the next set of updates will more than likely make this way better…that’s why I did the vid…to call attention to these things I want to see in the next update!
Brilliant comment and I agree . Just give Logic for iPad some time
@@WyattLite-n-inn couple months down the road we gonna demand a retraction 😂
@@seljoypro Lol,
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Love this
In your opinion but I respectfully disagree. Of course you have the desktop version and you’re not going to like all the things with the IPad app. Does not make it NOT professional does it? I’ve used a particular DAW for over 27 years and I tried to switch to Reaper but found lots of things that hindered my ‘workflow’. Does that mean Reaper isn’t PRO? Of course not. Logic Pro IOS is optimised for a particular workflow and you cannot bring your desktop mindset to it.
I respect your perspective…and actually don’t totally disagree with it…I think when they call it “Logic Pro” it adds a level of expectation to those that use it…I think just calling it “Logic” plain and simple would’ve made it more digestible and lowered expectations
Should have just stuck with Garage Band on the iPad. This and Final Cut are not Pro at all.
Regarding VSTs: Actually you (the VST manufacturer) need to re-compile your plug-in as AUv3 and you're good to go. Just take a look a moog's model D or model 15, works perfectly on macOS and iOS.
Something I’m exploring(as a developer) but there’s a bit more intricacies that go into it…just not a click this then that and recompile…otherwise everyone would have done that by now…but the biggest reason why companies don’t is the bottom line…the iOS market isn’t as lucrative as the desktop market is…on the desktop market I can easily charge $100-$500 for an audio plugin…on iOS those margins are $10-$50…yes iOS is a large market…BUT to add insult to injury of not being able to charge what you would on desktop you also have to give apple 30% of every sale off the App Store…this is why most devs are holding out on moving to the platform…
Thank you for an honest review!
Apple put the M-series chip in the iPad, but they left the handcuffs on iPad called iPadOS. iPadOS is a toy and iPad Pro needs real OS like OSX.
Yup!!!
If you can get professional results from it then its (PRO) you can not say something is not pro because its missing things that you would like to see added to the app.
It’s missing things that are core to what logic “pro” has been for decades…let me ask you this…if they took two cameras off of the iPhone pro…made it the size of the iPhone SE…decreased the battery life & screen brightness…gave it a less powerful processor…but then said to you “this is the new iPhone pro!” You’d be like “Naa it’s not the iPhone pro…” is it still an iPhone? Absolutely…can I still do some of the things that the iPhone pro can do? Yup! But does it have everything that the iPhone pro has? Nope!!! So it’s not “pro”….just call it “Logic For IPad” and call it a day..no one would be mad…they would understand that this isn’t the Logic ”Pro “ that we all know and love…I’m not saying it’s terrible or bad…I’m just like don’t call it an “iPhone pro” when it’s clearly just an iPhone
@@Johnmike your point still Does not prove that you can not get professional results from the program tho. You can still get a professional finished product fro. Logic Pro even with the limitations that you pointed out.
@@Ryanthemusicianyea but “pro results” is subjective…and that line is gonna change with everyone you talk to…you can get “pro results” from anything…the only real meter to measure where that line is that separates “basic” from “pro” is the feature set it offers to the end users…if I have a product that I have created for “pros” and I name it so…any subsequent version I create is going to be measured under that lens…I can’t give you Ableton with only 8 tracks, no aux buses, no access to 3rd party VSTs or complex warping features and then call it “Ableton Standard” but if I call it Ableton lite then it makes sense…can I still get “pro results” out of Ableton Lite? Absolutely…is it “the same” as Ableton standard? Not at all…
@@Johnmike Subjective how exactly? You can literally get a professional mix and master from the app if you know how to use the tools that are present instead of being concerned about the tools that are not. And just because something has less features as its counterpart still does not mean its not a professional tool.
@@Ryanthemusician subjective by definition means that it’s based on someone else’s feelings or opinions and not based on facts or a common shared reality…meaning if you ask 3 people you’ll get 3 different answers based on how they feel or perceive…what’s “pro” to me won’t be “pro” to you and vice versa…I did a whole live stream mixing in logic a couple weeks ago…I’ve attempted to produce with it…it’s an amazing tool…it’s a great “companion” app to the desktop…but not as self-contained as it needs to be…I need to be able to take my iPad into a professional environment and only work on it…not having to bounce back over to the desktop in order to perform a certain task…I realize that it’s severely limited by the iPad OS and my “subjective” opinion is that they could’ve rolled this out better/named it better to mange the expectations of their core user base…
It sounds not ready for Pro use and it’s only available by subscription. If it could be purchased you could buy and update it as Apple improves it. However, paying for software monthly that’s not ready is not good. I understand that it is meant for mobile impromptu work but still you need certain features that aren’t available.
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Thank you for confirming what I already suspected…. Also, I absolutely refuse to pay for a subscription. I’ve been using logic since Logic Express!! Ill just continue with my MacBook Pro when I’m away from my desktop Mac .
I don’t think anyone should have expected logic on iPad to be as extensive and intricate as Logic Pro x, logic for desktop is literally the best DAW available
I wish you could add movies so you can score to them, just can’t do that on the iPad version 😢
Hello, what great videos of yours, thank you for your content. I am from Colombia and I come to your channel to learn. I wanted to ask you if you could suddenly recommend a 61-key Midi Controller that fits well with Logic pro X. Your suggestions would be very helpful to me. Thank you!!!
Just playing devils advocate!!!!hopefully they will see this and will implement this in their update!!!
Let us pray 🙏🏾 😂
Good JOB Bro.
I want to create some basic beats before I go to sleep they export them to my PC do you think it's worth it and works. Im going to get an ipad Air 5 do you think 64gb it's enough for this kind of workflow
external midi controller with intuative midi learn missing is crazy, wah wah
Pitch Meeting! ❤❤❤
I was waiting on someone to get the reference lol
This tiresome knocking of an incredibly capable DAW by desktop users points only to their obsession with comparing the number of features a DAW has instead of looking at their own incompetance of producing quality professional results without a ton of features to correct inadequacies of both engineer and artists. Engineers and artists of yesteryear would have looked at todays Logic Pro on Ipad as a miracle of technology compared to the tools they had at there disposal. With those minimal tools they still produced professional results surpassing many of today's so called engineers. To all desktop engineers I can only say, you already have your desktop DAW. If you don't like the ipad version then simply don't invest in it.
Logic Pro for the iPad is call Logic Pro on your MacBook. If you had stated one more thing you didn’t like I would have taken you seriously.
I wonder about people who spend so much time complaining about what their software does and doesn’t do, what do you do? Some of the greatest music the world has ever heard was created by people who had nothing more than their voice, and instrument and a glorified tape recorder..and that’s all they needed.
Would this be good for just gigs
Yup!
If I sent you na sayers a Mix Template for Logic Pro on the iPad would you know your way around it? Probably not. Summing tracks, Subgroup, Summing tracks put into subgroups, submix tracks? Do you y'all know this is possible in the iPad version? Or is it because you don't have some of your desktop stuff you feel like you can't create? Learn the tools, know the tools and you can get what ever results you want. I'm up for the challenge if ya'll are drop ya emails and let's make it happen.
Dude I’ve made mixing templates for logic on the iPad based off my desktop version….I run a whole website where I teach and educate people how to mix/produce… I very much know what is and isn’t possible…. Which is why I made the video… I recently mixed a 100+ track song on my iPad which prompted me to do the whole video… but anyone that’s interested can get the iPad version of my template here:
gospelproducers.com/product/gospel-mixing-template-for-logic-profor-ipad/
Even before it was released I thought it would be naive to think it would be equal with the desktop. So just pointing out that it’s not equal to desktop is a non issue. Even if it does have “Pro” in the title. I don’t think it was meant to be taken that literally. It’s an iPad. I’m sorry but this is a “cup half empty” review. And lastly, think of all the features the desktop version has now compared to when you first started using it. This is the first version of Logic iOS.
Unless apple ports Mac OS into iPad, it limits itself to nothing more than a sketching tool
Agreed
Cap. Do you know how to mix?
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It looks lika a toy made by children etc. ;-)