EVE Online - Why is T4 loot so bad?!

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
  • We are consistently getting T4 loot, I miss the T5s in a Zealot.
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Комментарии • 47

  • @okiadventures1213
    @okiadventures1213 Месяц назад +4

    Since few days I drop about 35-40m / rift T4, about 150m /h. I have the sentiment I did more about 200m befor.

  • @Cinemaddict2
    @Cinemaddict2 Месяц назад +2

    Hey ace I just wanted to thank you for your beginner's tutorials, this week I earned 100 million exploring, you are the goat of this game ❤

  • @yutubeiscensorshipskum-ih8tw
    @yutubeiscensorshipskum-ih8tw Месяц назад +2

    I have data for my last 174runs.
    you tend to get 20 mil per site, average.
    minimum loot was 2 mil(total for all 3 rooms) maximum was 94mil.
    average price for abyss keys were 12.4mil isk.
    making you, on average, 7.6 mil per run.
    in 700mil ship with 1.7bil pod.
    Average completing time is 12.6minutes.
    174 runs were completed in last month and a half.
    When I raise this in forums, a lot of, and I cant call them anything else, sheep is blabbering about how abyss is not pvp and how it should be nerfed OR that I am lying.
    Eve is not dying, it is turning into a mobile game.

  • @razva00
    @razva00 Месяц назад +2

    Love your videos man. keep going.

  • @schauski
    @schauski Месяц назад +1

    Here is some data on my last 10 T4 Gamma runs... not sure what to make of it, since I don`t have a ton of experience:
    (1): 37,6M
    (2): 23M
    (3): 60,2M
    (4): 21,4M
    (5): 170M
    (6): 42,9M
    (7): 28,2M
    (8): 26,8M
    (9): 63,3M
    (10): 19.4M
    SUM: 492,8M
    Cruiser / 90% of caches

    • @yutubeiscensorshipskum-ih8tw
      @yutubeiscensorshipskum-ih8tw Месяц назад

      half a bil from 10 runs?
      I never saw that happening.

    • @schauski
      @schauski Месяц назад

      @@yutubeiscensorshipskum-ih8tw The unstable large shield extender mutaplasmid in run (5) was a lucky drop and is skewing the numbers. The rest seems to be pretty standard from what I can tell. And you have to subtract 100M for Filaments.

  • @gep666
    @gep666 Месяц назад +5

    Ok ,so: Why is T4 loot so bad?! . I'm looting every container and still get as low as 5mil , can't even recover filament money. i think they silent nerfed it.

    • @Spacefarmer-mm3xt
      @Spacefarmer-mm3xt Месяц назад

      I have just discovered this doesn’t just affect T4 loot, it also affected T1 and T2 loot as well, I bought up this issue with developers who might’ve made mistake with the equinox update involving how they setup the loot tables with add some new items to the table.

    • @Spacefarmer-mm3xt
      @Spacefarmer-mm3xt Месяц назад

      So if you wanna help reproduce this issue by both doing T1 and T2 or at least test the T1 and T0 loot drops just to see if those are affected as well.

  • @Spacefarmer-mm3xt
    @Spacefarmer-mm3xt Месяц назад

    I created a bug report on this matter relating to my own findings involving T1 and T2 abyssal. apparently it was recognized be a problem that they didn’t expect to find. probably an accident from the equinox update as they were adding things to the loot table.

  • @gamingmatrix7644
    @gamingmatrix7644 Месяц назад

    if you skip extraction nodes thats why your making little isk. Alot of times them extraction nodes have 2-6m isk. sometimes more. many times the main cache only has 4-5m but from the nodes 12-15m

  • @Spacefarmer-mm3xt
    @Spacefarmer-mm3xt Месяц назад

    I have actually been getting the same amount in T1 and T2 loot as well so T4 loot is not the only problem you’re dealing with. I think the developers might’ve messed up the update.

    • @Spacefarmer-mm3xt
      @Spacefarmer-mm3xt Месяц назад

      I have made a bug report about the matter as well thinking it was an accidental mess up.

  • @Sebe_r35
    @Sebe_r35 Месяц назад +1

    I mean the loot you're getting is better than what I usually get from my T3s but it's not that much

  • @darkarcanum1814
    @darkarcanum1814 Месяц назад +1

    T4 median loot - Cruiser 32.1 million isk. T3 median loot Destroyer 21.1 million isk. T2 median loot Frigate 13.5 million isk.

    • @yutubeiscensorshipskum-ih8tw
      @yutubeiscensorshipskum-ih8tw Месяц назад

      That is a lie.
      t4 median loot for gila is 20 mil, I recorded loot from my 174 runs.

    • @darkarcanum1814
      @darkarcanum1814 Месяц назад

      @@yutubeiscensorshipskum-ih8tw abyss tracker... 186 runs in the last 7 days

    • @yutubeiscensorshipskum-ih8tw
      @yutubeiscensorshipskum-ih8tw Месяц назад

      that is not A) automatic and you can B) lie.
      People qre expected to not lie when they input data, but you can say whatever you want.
      I have data for my last 150something runs and medium loot is 20mil with price of filament 12.5mil. for t4 qbyss

    • @darkarcanum1814
      @darkarcanum1814 Месяц назад

      @@yutubeiscensorshipskum-ih8tw as can you. Aggregate vs individual sampling. Your choice.
      I commend you on your accomplishment and your efforts to record them. Well done.

    • @yutubeiscensorshipskum-ih8tw
      @yutubeiscensorshipskum-ih8tw Месяц назад

      No need for your ego to get butt hurt.
      The only reason I pointing that fact out is because people are getting into eve for qbyss stories and loot.
      AND THEY ARE LIES.
      I want to state that fact so that someone do not spend 2 years paying for omega time just to do t4 qbyss for 5 mil profit per run.

  • @IndrasilDesignStudio
    @IndrasilDesignStudio Месяц назад

    The T3 loot is even worse, I only earn like 3-4M per room
    Meanwhile, T2 frigate abyss is like 5-7M per room

  • @Allhavengames
    @Allhavengames 21 час назад

    I swear they change it around the time you made this video I've ran hundreds of abyssal and all of sudden a couple months ago the loot sucked and I remember the specific day because I woke up the next day to do them again and was getting horrible loot so I thought I was just having bad luck that day, its just been the same ever since that day horrible loot and I cant find anything on it

  • @mtgfreeplay1923
    @mtgfreeplay1923 Месяц назад +1

    T2 Hawk is way less risk than T4s, I've run duos on my hawk multiboxing in t3s recently, the money is better than T4 100%, average loot size is 25-30mil ish, and the risk ratio/pay off time is so fast, plus you can get some really good drops on t3, I've had up to 80m loot... 100m risk, yeah..

    • @Nonsense-hg6mo
      @Nonsense-hg6mo Месяц назад

      Not only that the t2/t3 filaments are so much cheaper. T3-4 loot is broken.

  • @smoore6461
    @smoore6461 Месяц назад +2

    I honrstly find the loot per hour and the VERY low cost of the filimenta and ship make the lower abyssal runs more economic. I have never run a T5, honestly, so i can't speak to them, but honrstly banging out tons of T1's in an hour seens to make me better loot than 1 t3 with the ships i have.

    • @BanControl
      @BanControl Месяц назад +1

      t5+ makes no sense unless you really figured out a cheese strat or just have insane bling and perfect knowledge of every possible room. ive done t5s in an ishtar and it was brutal, definitely lost more 4bil ishtars than i made from the 3-5 t5s i was able to complete

    • @Rommelicious1
      @Rommelicious1 Месяц назад

      @@BanControl Then you're doing something very wrong. I run T5 electricals in a 2 bil combined fit (Gila + mid grade crystal set) and it's easy mode. Much easier than running T4 electricals in the povertila.

    • @BanControl
      @BanControl Месяц назад

      @@Rommelicious1 i was doing firestorms becauses the filaments were cheap

    • @seven9766
      @seven9766 Месяц назад

      ​@@BanControl Firestorm is damn difficult, that is the reason why the filaments are so cheap, barely anyone runs them.

  • @Robert-ks3gl
    @Robert-ks3gl Месяц назад +1

    Sup Ace thanks for all your videos

  • @Cam_Lotro
    @Cam_Lotro Месяц назад

    Heyt man I love your videos!! Sorry you're T4 journey isnt going the way you want it to lately. Do you have any updated Stormbringer videos for abyss? Considering using it for my T6 Electrical ship, I've heard it clears everything quite comfortably, but it's quite pricey to get to it! Love everything you do!

  • @Jamsey-ye5fc
    @Jamsey-ye5fc Месяц назад

    ACE can you do a guide on trig hunting again, im having trouble finding the trigs bc they always seem not to be there

  • @KyleMaxwell
    @KyleMaxwell Месяц назад +3

    Ugh Gilas... I know they're very effective, but they're so cookie-cutter at this point that I just shy away.

    • @seven9766
      @seven9766 Месяц назад

      Buy an ancil vagabond, plenty of fusion, learn gamma in a couple t3s, move to 4, when comfortable preroll blue pill + drop and go to t5. For t6 you may want extra bling and crystals.
      Ignore neuts, don't ignore webs or tracking disruptors.
      Live a little.

  • @manicxwiggy
    @manicxwiggy Месяц назад

    Hi Ace, what's the fit? Also this good for T4 missions?

  • @mtdruben
    @mtdruben Месяц назад +1

    This is why I stopped running T4 😢

  • @mateohonosoki3160
    @mateohonosoki3160 Месяц назад +1

    Thx you unc fir that vidéo

  • @law7116
    @law7116 Месяц назад +1

    Here I will fix the title for you.... "Why is all loot in EvE bad".

  • @zzzzzzzzzzzzzz1984
    @zzzzzzzzzzzzzz1984 Месяц назад

    Because loot tables exist

  • @lowwwew
    @lowwwew Месяц назад

    ive just run t3 with your t4 alpha gila turtle tank fit and got wrecked inside the abyss. Karybdis kited me long enough to me to die from the time expiration. I guess thats it form me and this game =D (i just cant mentally recover from loosing second gila and like 800m as a newish player). GG

    • @berrigo2
      @berrigo2 Месяц назад +3

      never fly something you cant afford to lose. Just stick with lower tiers until you have more padding. there's no need to rush into harder stuff, skills take months to max anyways. Gentle coast into profit, not big risky ventures

    • @BanControl
      @BanControl Месяц назад +3

      skill issue

    • @lowwwew
      @lowwwew Месяц назад

      @@berrigo2 oh man ive got max almost max alpha skills for the gila(after 5m it stopped training and +1m that i have from the link), its just super slow build that can and will be kited with ships that kite you =D

    • @lowwwew
      @lowwwew Месяц назад

      @@BanControl the moment that i saw that i cleared every other and that fucker was still at 65km i knew i was fucked. It was slow, painful death =D. He hit the barrier and slowed down a bit so i did catch him up after like 9 min or so, but with shield, armor and hull that i couldnt break in time

  • @012345371
    @012345371 Месяц назад +1

    the best cc ever.......