Great video once again! The 2009 pirates wave really is a fun one! Next year is the 35th anniversary of the original pirates theme, so I really hope they do something pirates related. A new theme would be so nice...
Next year is the 35th anniversary of LEGO Pirates? Damn, where did the time go? While I obviously prefer themes, I'm content with LEGO's current practice of releasing retro remakes- as long as they introduce sets at prices under 100 dollars. See, I'd love to see a new pirates theme hit shelves next year, but I doubt we'll get one b/c of these retro remakes... but I'm more than willing to wait 6 years for a pirate theme... LEGO, give us one for the 40th anniversary please!
@@OurToyWorld A new theme is quite unlikely now unfortunately, but the remakes are great too. It would be great to maybe get two sets - one under and one over 100$. And with the new Super Mario Piranha Plant set I'm hoping they will start doing smaller 18+ sets. I'm really enjoying the Pirates Retrospective, keep up the great work!
These were my childhood. Still to this day I think the kraken looks weird cause I never played with it the right way round, I thought the sack was it’s actual head lol. Also I had the Advent Calendar and that one as well as the Kingdoms one were the two that stuck in my head for real.
I was really into this theme, it must've been one of the last themes I collected before my dark ages. Very good sets that at their best reached the 90s era of Pirates Sets in quality. Very good all around. Especially the two small sets were game changers and of course the Imperial Flagship was a-freaking-mazing
I remember seeing these in the 2009 catalogue and being in awe at the catalogue art most notably the shipwreck island 🏝️. I never bought any of them and weirdly I don’t regret my decision. I don’t know why but whenever I compare pirates with other vintage themes, even though pirate lore is superior the imagination is inferior imo. I think people like you need to convince me that pirates is better than I think it is and videos like this do a good job at that
When they released this round of pirates, I did a couple things: 1) I did a little troop building. But, I did some head swapping, because I didn't want all my redcoat troopers to have goatees. So now I have city police, space police, and even black falcon soldiers with the Red Coat Goatee head. 2) My Renegade Runner didn't come with a spring-firing cannon like I had seen advertised. As soon as I had the chance, I got one and swapped out. So, it may not be strictly vintage, anymore.
My main complaint with this and the following iteration of the Pirates theme is the lack of any real mid-range sets, and in particular the lack of the smaller ships that helped round out the classic era iterations. 2009 had a couple midrange sets but they were island/fort sets, and there were only a small handful. No ships, no multiple sets for each subtheme/faction. And the theme had a huge jump from even the Soldier's Fort to the Brickbeard's Bounty. There was the Advanced Builds Imperial Flagship released the very next year, but it was even bigger than Brickbeard's Bounty and also carried a bigger price tag. 2015 was even worse, having only one mid-range set - its smaller iteration of the Soldiers' Fort - unless you also counted the chess set. One thing I've noticed is that themes tend to live or die based on the quality, appeal and variety of their mid-range sets, and both 2009 and 2015 Pirates failed to deliver in all three of these categories. The other issue for both kinda ties into the first issue - the Imperials basically got shafted, with the exception of 2010's Advanced Builds Imperial Flagship. There was no second captain to deal with either - classic Pirates had Ironhook, who went on his own misadventures and occasionally crossed swords with Redbeard. And the Islanders were basically erased from existence, even though their inclusion would have helped either theme in regards to mid-range set variety. And honestly, when the pirates have no one to actually fight in ship to ship combat, they kinda lose their appeal. After all, no one likes a pirate who doesn't do anything. All in all, I think that 2009 Pirates was good from a general design perspective, but mistakes were made at the organizational level that basically doomed the theme.
It really was the perfect Pirates theme. 6242 Soldiers Fort I still regard as one of my favorite sets of all time. Loot Island currently sits on my computer desk. Would love to complete this subtheme someday, minus the giant Imperial ship
Even calling this version close to the original would be a crime. The original will always be better that any other lego theme. Nothing can top 1989-1997 Pirates
Thanks for the support. I hope you've been enjoying the series. Don't worry, I'll be covering the 2015 theme in the next episode of "LEGO Pirates Retrospect"
I love how Brickbeard was in a lot of the sets because he's such a cool figure. I think its such a shame that the 2015 redbeard was exclusive to the one ship set. I dont think 2015 redbeard was anywhere near as cool of a figure as brickbeard (maybe thats just nostalgia idk) but it still would have been alot nicer to have him in most of the 5 sets from that line
Wow… you’re right. That’s such a shame he only appeared in one set. If you’re gonna bring back redbeard, treat him like the old sets did- put him in a bunch of sets
I love the small set with just one imperial minifig. Bought around 40 of them back then for army building. My biggest regret is not buying the imperial flagship, remember buying Taj Mahal instead :(
@@piotr78 it absolutely, 100% is. How's colorful printing on the previously plain shakos a "downgrade"? How's previously absent back torso printing a "downgrade"? That's just a ridiculous statement to make, I'm sry. The only thing I'd agree with, if we're talking about this in detail, is the quality of a white print on the newer figs. That IS in fact a 100% downgrade which TLG won't make any effort whatsoever to fix even these days on modern minifigures. But apart from that everything's awesome with the 2009 figs. You may like the OG design better, good for you and it's understandable, but there's objectively no way the original one was more detailed or advanced than its 2009 iteration, that's all I'm saying.
While I love POTC, I wish we had gotten it a few years later. Would've loved to have gotten a second wave that next year alongside the Imperial Flagship.
The 2009 sets were awful when compared to the originals except for the Imperial Flagship. Good thing I had most of the original sets. I did not buy any of the crappy 2009 sets other than the imperial ship.
I cant believe that someone calls 2009s pirate good. Thats unbelieveable. The Pirateship is only a unwanted child with "cost reduction" as its first name. It didnt even had an anchor! Not even a String for the Sails! Besides the Imperial Flagship, the whole theme is forgettable and bad.
Honestly I can't disagree more with this take, I'm not an vintage Lego purist but All the new sets outside of the imperial flagship were pretty terrible. The original builds for each one of them was far superior in my opinion opinion.
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That was actually my first pirates theme lol.
I enjoyed it as a kid cause it's all I could find.
But yeah, it was BAAAAAAD. xD
Miss pirates! Great content as always! Keep it up bro!🔥🤙
yeah this is the perfect theme! its has so much more detail
Dude, we need more 2009 pirates sets
Great video once again! The 2009 pirates wave really is a fun one! Next year is the 35th anniversary of the original pirates theme, so I really hope they do something pirates related. A new theme would be so nice...
Next year is the 35th anniversary of LEGO Pirates? Damn, where did the time go? While I obviously prefer themes, I'm content with LEGO's current practice of releasing retro remakes- as long as they introduce sets at prices under 100 dollars.
See, I'd love to see a new pirates theme hit shelves next year, but I doubt we'll get one b/c of these retro remakes... but I'm more than willing to wait 6 years for a pirate theme... LEGO, give us one for the 40th anniversary please!
@@OurToyWorld A new theme is quite unlikely now unfortunately, but the remakes are great too. It would be great to maybe get two sets - one under and one over 100$. And with the new Super Mario Piranha Plant set I'm hoping they will start doing smaller 18+ sets. I'm really enjoying the Pirates Retrospective, keep up the great work!
These were my childhood. Still to this day I think the kraken looks weird cause I never played with it the right way round, I thought the sack was it’s actual head lol. Also I had the Advent Calendar and that one as well as the Kingdoms one were the two that stuck in my head for real.
Lego Battles has Brickbeard vs Governor lore
Didnt lego say that they dont make military or war related sets and then they made soldier for the pirates theme lol
we need more pirates!!!
Absolutely!
my childhood. i still have brickbeard ship and i made an uptaded version of 6242
You still have brick beard bounty I don’t have those sets
I was really into this theme, it must've been one of the last themes I collected before my dark ages. Very good sets that at their best reached the 90s era of Pirates Sets in quality. Very good all around. Especially the two small sets were game changers and of course the Imperial Flagship was a-freaking-mazing
I just got a imperial flagship
Sealed? That’s one of my white whales now tbh
@@OurToyWorld sealed and I am planning on biulding and modifying it
I would 't be a lego fan and collectionor if it wasn't for the 2009 line
Amazing. See, it really was that special
@@OurToyWorld yes it was 😁
I remember seeing these in the 2009 catalogue and being in awe at the catalogue art most notably the shipwreck island 🏝️. I never bought any of them and weirdly I don’t regret my decision. I don’t know why but whenever I compare pirates with other vintage themes, even though pirate lore is superior the imagination is inferior imo. I think people like you need to convince me that pirates is better than I think it is and videos like this do a good job at that
When they released this round of pirates, I did a couple things:
1) I did a little troop building. But, I did some head swapping, because I didn't want all my redcoat troopers to have goatees. So now I have city police, space police, and even black falcon soldiers with the Red Coat Goatee head.
2) My Renegade Runner didn't come with a spring-firing cannon like I had seen advertised. As soon as I had the chance, I got one and swapped out. So, it may not be strictly vintage, anymore.
6:37 oh hey i've got that one next to me!
The original Imperial Flagship? Very nice
My main complaint with this and the following iteration of the Pirates theme is the lack of any real mid-range sets, and in particular the lack of the smaller ships that helped round out the classic era iterations. 2009 had a couple midrange sets but they were island/fort sets, and there were only a small handful. No ships, no multiple sets for each subtheme/faction. And the theme had a huge jump from even the Soldier's Fort to the Brickbeard's Bounty. There was the Advanced Builds Imperial Flagship released the very next year, but it was even bigger than Brickbeard's Bounty and also carried a bigger price tag. 2015 was even worse, having only one mid-range set - its smaller iteration of the Soldiers' Fort - unless you also counted the chess set. One thing I've noticed is that themes tend to live or die based on the quality, appeal and variety of their mid-range sets, and both 2009 and 2015 Pirates failed to deliver in all three of these categories.
The other issue for both kinda ties into the first issue - the Imperials basically got shafted, with the exception of 2010's Advanced Builds Imperial Flagship. There was no second captain to deal with either - classic Pirates had Ironhook, who went on his own misadventures and occasionally crossed swords with Redbeard. And the Islanders were basically erased from existence, even though their inclusion would have helped either theme in regards to mid-range set variety. And honestly, when the pirates have no one to actually fight in ship to ship combat, they kinda lose their appeal. After all, no one likes a pirate who doesn't do anything.
All in all, I think that 2009 Pirates was good from a general design perspective, but mistakes were made at the organizational level that basically doomed the theme.
It really was the perfect Pirates theme. 6242 Soldiers Fort I still regard as one of my favorite sets of all time. Loot Island currently sits on my computer desk. Would love to complete this subtheme someday, minus the giant Imperial ship
Bro maniac bricks
I’ve watched your videos
Even calling this version close to the original would be a crime. The original will always be better that any other lego theme. Nothing can top 1989-1997 Pirates
Honestly, I forgot the Imperial Flagship existed. One day I'll need to buy the set.
Gotta drop around 800 or so if you want it :(
It’s my new white whale!
The greatest Lego series ever released, and I’m willing to defend that to my grave.
It really is a wonderful line
@@OurToyWorld we love our toy world
Greatly enjoying this retrospective! Pirates is one of my favorite Lego themes! Will you also cover the 2015 releases?
Thanks for the support. I hope you've been enjoying the series. Don't worry, I'll be covering the 2015 theme in the next episode of "LEGO Pirates Retrospect"
@@OurToyWorld Absolutely! Lego Retrospectives are kinda rare, and they're always interesting when well made like this
Good video man!!
Thanks, Mikey
I love how Brickbeard was in a lot of the sets because he's such a cool figure. I think its such a shame that the 2015 redbeard was exclusive to the one ship set. I dont think 2015 redbeard was anywhere near as cool of a figure as brickbeard (maybe thats just nostalgia idk) but it still would have been alot nicer to have him in most of the 5 sets from that line
Wow… you’re right. That’s such a shame he only appeared in one set. If you’re gonna bring back redbeard, treat him like the old sets did- put him in a bunch of sets
I love the small set with just one imperial minifig. Bought around 40 of them back then for army building. My biggest regret is not buying the imperial flagship, remember buying Taj Mahal instead :(
Wow.. i wish I had the money (AND THE IDEA) to do that back in the day. Kudos to you
Sure. Captain Brickbeard is must be based on Captain Blackbeard (A.K.A. Edward Tech).
🔥
I don't see the minifig improvements you talked about personally. Older vs 2009 imperial guard torso design is a huge step back
😂
@@F1stzz you think it's an improvement?
@@piotr78 it absolutely, 100% is. How's colorful printing on the previously plain shakos a "downgrade"? How's previously absent back torso printing a "downgrade"? That's just a ridiculous statement to make, I'm sry. The only thing I'd agree with, if we're talking about this in detail, is the quality of a white print on the newer figs. That IS in fact a 100% downgrade which TLG won't make any effort whatsoever to fix even these days on modern minifigures. But apart from that everything's awesome with the 2009 figs. You may like the OG design better, good for you and it's understandable, but there's objectively no way the original one was more detailed or advanced than its 2009 iteration, that's all I'm saying.
@@F1stzz Prints on the hat and back don't make up for the horrible design of the torso imo
@@piotr78 that's your subjective opinion, which I respect, but objectively 2009 figs can't be generally called a step back 🤝🏻
90s pirates>
Hmm...
I find the newer theme to look more cartooney...
mmm its not a new captain....
His name is brickbeard; the one we all know and love is redbeard
@@OurToyWorld Like pirate all having ""beard'' in they name.... Same Guy.
Sadly this was one wave.
While I love POTC, I wish we had gotten it a few years later. Would've loved to have gotten a second wave that next year alongside the Imperial Flagship.
The 2009 sets were awful when compared to the originals except for the Imperial Flagship. Good thing I had most of the original sets. I did not buy any of the crappy 2009 sets other than the imperial ship.
What do you not like about them
@@OurToyWorld They are very basic and incomplete.
I cant believe that someone calls 2009s pirate good. Thats unbelieveable. The Pirateship is only a unwanted child with "cost reduction" as its first name. It didnt even had an anchor! Not even a String for the Sails! Besides the Imperial Flagship, the whole theme is forgettable and bad.
Honestly I can't disagree more with this take, I'm not an vintage Lego purist but All the new sets outside of the imperial flagship were pretty terrible. The original builds for each one of them was far superior in my opinion opinion.