Making a Dowel Plate From an Old File | DIY Dowel Maker
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After so much demand for how to make a dowel plate from a file, I decided to bump it up the list a bit and show how to make a dowel maker from a file using only hand tools and some heat! As this is a hand tool woodworking channel we will be making the doweling jig with only hand tools just no hand plane this time LOL weather you call it a dowel maker or a dowel plate it makes dowels and a good time along the way.
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Forges are easy james, just simply manifest a set of bellows into existence, then you can keep with the hand tool theme, easy peasy
Great technique thank you. I intend to try to make one from an old file soon. I am thinking that I will drill the holes slightly under size and then finish them off with taper reamer from the underside before carry out the hardening and sharpening process. Doing it that way will hopefully leave a little underside relief to make removing the finished dowels a little easier. Thanks for posting.
If anyone is interested, 1095 steel is good for this application and can be purchased from McMaster-Carr. In its unhardened condition, it is fairly machinable. It will need to be hardened when the holes are finished. I am SO jealous of that drill.
I wanted to just buy a chunk rather than making it from f file, but that is what people wanted to see. LOL
Extremly impressive. I past a lot of time seeing how you make tools in the traditional style
Make a dowel plate from a file, file the file with a file, I love it.
LOL yup. the fun things you can do with steel!
Thanks for showing the steps to soften and then harden the metal. I have very little knowledge of working metal and did not realize that you could do something like this without some type of forge.
Thanks. It all comes down to creating heat. Even if you have a wood stove or I've even seen some people use a kitchen stove top for smaller items.
even if you only have a blow torch. use some bricks and improvise a forge. I've seen Wranglerstar use a wood powered forge. many blacksmith use gas powered ones with high temperature stones. but this is only to concentrate the heat and don't waste to much fuel.
thank you mister Wright for this simple and handy tutorial.
Here's an idea:
Make that plays with extra space in front of the smallest hole.
When the holes get dull, recut them all one size bigger, and add a new smallest hole.
(though this would only work with mild steel)
so glad you made this follow up. i was going to do some research tonight and you saved me
Glad I could help! It is a fun shop made tool!
You could probably drill each hole slightly bigger on the reverse side for relief.
The only problem with that is the rim becomes weekend and can either break or bend from the pounding. And if it binds in at all then it no longer will cut.
I was taught at college when I was an apprentice back in the mists of time to find a heavy piece of angle iron to make a dowel plate out of. Its a good shape as it can be held in the vice when making the dowels, nice job though, keep up the good work !
yup. that is a common way to do it. quick and easy and made to what ever size you want.
Might try visiting your local machinist's shop too. I imagine they could whip that out real fast from a chunk a tool steel they might even have in their scrap pile, and cheaper than the store bought varieties.
Very true. My uncle does machining and has a pile of scrap I often dig through.
Thanks for dumbing down the annealing/hardening steel process. I am still learning how that works most of the videos dont really explain it well.
Yes. A lot of people can go into great detail and depth about how it actually works in the science behind it. There are a ton of specifics and every type of steel has a different way of doing it to get the optimal out of the steel. but sometimes you just have to do the simple things and get it close to good and don't worry about perfection.
I want a piece of that pizza LOL Great build man! it is always a pleasure to watch you build something your way!
Thanks man. Love having fun in the shop.
Chisels and plane blades should be ok too.
I think I'd make some spare holes, I saw you didn't make many different holes, three of four of each probably wouldn't have been much more work.
I like the idea of inserting saw/blade into some steel water pipe or similar, to concentrate the flame and heat more of the work piece.
I think we used to heat to straw colour after hardening. But that was about sixty years ago.
Nice video, its good to see you adapt when youre out of your comfort zone.
Well explained, en well done my friend.
You give me inspiration.
Danny from Holland
Thanks Danny. That means a lot!
Thank you for sharing,
I like your idea with using the old file, better then using the mild steel
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It is always nice to use something that has passed its life.
James, excellent video, very interesting. I tend to chuck the larger piece of wood in a dril and run it through the hole, Then tap it through again. Less resistance. I love the pizza magic.
I do love running them through with the drill. It is very pleasing. I haven't tried doing it with a brace though maybe I should try that sometime.
@@WoodByWright Indeed!
Nice video! If I were to make something like this I would probably just buy a piece of 1095 or some other basic steel. It's still nice to be able to make something out of an old saw blade or a file but it's a lot more work in my experience.
So true. I'm much the same way I have a stock of O1 and A2 or just that kind of use.
Greetings, I have never seen and so never used insulation batting for normalizing/annealing. Thanks for the idea.
Wish I could take credit for it. But glad I could pass it along.
Nice work James! 👍🏻👊🏻
Thanks Fred.
Very nice video. Well done James.
Thanks Steve!
Nice work boots :)
The best shop shoes you can get. Incredibly comfortable and protective
Great work and that is a great dad joke
I’m going to tell it to my daughter and hear her groan
Lol love that groan!
4:19 totally digging the shoes
Got to love the clogs in the shop. Where them everyday.
You might be able to taper the holes by coming in with a tapered drill bit from the back. I'm not sure how difficult it will be to keep from going too deep, though.
If I had one small enough I might give it a try. it would be a fun experiment!
Everybody nows that 2 parts caramel, 4 parts Hershey's chocolate, 1 part canned tuna, and 10 parts red wine vinegar is the best way to sharpen any steel. Or maybe that's the recipe for settling an upset stomach. Oh, I don't remember.
Now I got to try that one LOL. Thanks man!
WHAT. Silicone grips for the oven racks!? Everyone in my life has failed me.
Lol yes those are the best things in the kitchen. Keep you from burning your hand on the edge of the rack they've saved me quite a few times.
Had to stop the video, go to Amazon and order these. How did I not know they existed.
@@W1ldt1m I showed my wife and got in trouble for not ordering them immediately.
A brilliant bit of ingenuity ! P.S. will it be NEXT WEEK : Make a file out of an old dowel plate ??? HA HA
Lol. Now that would be a good video.
Thanks for posting where I can buy one already made hahaha
LOL that is the easy way. and they are a great tool!
Another one to add to the files.
lol nice!
loved the joke thank you for that oh and thank you for the info . i used to use used motor oil for to quince
it works well and hey a good job for that oil change oil .
Thanks. I usually use oil but I did not have enough for this one as I just recently got rid of my stash. Lol
Thanks for sharing that
my pleasure!
Great video! Now I’ve got no excuse to not make one... And thanks for sharing my joke!
Lol thanks for the joke man!
Great joke at the end... I have some old files I think I might do this just because it looks like so much fun!
Thanks! nice. it is a fun way to make a tools with one that does not work any more.
Well it turns out my phone likes your voice as it also started a timer! Thanks!
LOL sorry man!
Great work, James. Very ingenious. But what about that drill you restored? I really liked it! Can you tell me who the manufacturer was and where do I get one?
I have a whole video showing restoring that drill. If you search wood by right post drill it should come up. I have another one I want to restore here soon. I usually find them at tool meets. I think I got this one at a Midwest tool collectors association meet.
Hi, James.
Thanks for reply. I'll search for your video restoring this drill. And I'm going to look for that drill around.
A hug.
Very interesting stuff James, the plate you showed looks pretty cool though, any idea if they have plans to make a metric version?
I think he does plan to make a metric version though the step sizes between each hole are small enough That there is not that much difference. it would not surprise me if he comes out with a metric one soon though.
@@WoodByWright that would be great, you're right that the imperial version would also work, but I'll wait a bit and see if he does come up with the metric one.
@@Anilm3 A metric once is very possible and the listing is prepared for Amazon US. If you are outside of the USA you will have to wait a while for them to be international.
@@dfmtoolworks thanks for your response! If the order is fulfilled by amazon they seem to ship to the UK pretty easily, I've ordered a few times before. Your imperial version seems to be fulfilled by Amazon, I assume the metric one would be too? Please do let me know once they are available!
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I enjoyed how obviously amused you were at the bad pun :-) I'm betting you would both enjoy and find useful a small forge and some anvil equivalent. Google coffee can and two brick (fire brick) forges. Effective propane burners can be made with common plumbing parts and a MIG tip. Railroad track is the "usual' starter anvil, but new stump or stake anvils can be found -- check out Old World Anvils for examples. My first anvil was a stake anvil set in a concrete filled Sonotube. Need a crank neck chisel? Forge an old beater chisel into shape and heat treat. Etc, etc., etc... Just be aware that it's a very slippery slope :-D Clyde
A forge and anvle are high on my list. but I want to build an out door shop for that. it is on the some day list.
I just got My dowel plate from Amazon like the one you have critiqued. My question is when are you going to make a support stand for this plate? I am interested in what you come up with.
I probably will not make a support stand at all. Usually what you do is make a box that it fits on and then drill holes that are about a 32nd larger than the main hole. This will keep the double straight as it continues out the bottom but is not tight enough to jam up the dowel as it runs through.
thanks .😊🔨
My pleasure.
This will come in very handy. Thanks!
Just a quick question, with the three torches, about how long did it take to get to cherry red?
Thanks. It took about 10 minutes for it to get up to temperature.
I’m a little disappointed you didn’t anneal and harden it in a hand built fire with hand rived wood and flint started 😂
Hand-riven, not hand rived
No Hand rived.
Lol I did start the fire with flint and steel
If you're feeling ambitious, you could probably also case harden one from mild steel. Clickspring has some good videos on the topic over on his channel, where he hand-cuts and hardens a set of files.
Ya that would be a fun one. Love his channel!
Good follow up... Thanks James...rr Normandy
Thanks man My pleasure.
Nicely done. I was thinking you would need not than one torch, then you brought out two more. Great job. Do you have a diamond card or finger to sharpen the store bought plate and not loose the markings?
There's no worry about losing the markings in the plate. They are etched extremely deep and you would have to sharpen it several hundred times to get down that far.
Nice shoes! :D
thanks. best shop shoos you can have. incredibly comfortable and protective
If you’re going to make one of these, go to harbor freight and buy their die grinder sanding pack. It has cone shaped sanding rolls and a mandrel for like 10 dollars. This will let you taper the holes in about 10 seconds per hole. It hits the plate on the back side before the cutting side so you will not open the hole. Want to get fancy you can dreamer them with a felt bob and polishing compound to really slick it up but there wasn’t much of an improvement. I could tell… but I’d skip that step if doing it again. Also if you’re scared you’ll remove to much material, harden it first. Doubt it on soft metal is much quicker but you CAN go to far if you lead foot your grinder.
Heating would be far faster with a fire brick background.
It would.
So, how was the pizza? Lol
But seriously, very easy thing to make. I may actually order some A1 steel from McMaster and make one. How would I go about tapering the holes? Just file them out while the steel is still soft?
Nice. That is how I would normally do it. No need to taper it but if you really want to that would be how. Just make sure to not hit the mouth.
If I were to taper the bottom, I would use a drill bit 1/16" bigger than the hole and drill from the bottom while it is still soft and try to stop with about 1/32" left to keep the top of your plate to the proper size hole. Hope that makes sense.
@@dfmtoolworks makes perfect sense. Thank you.
what does that cam do on the drill
sorry not sure what you are referring to.
@@WoodByWright with each rotation it looks like a cam advances a gear at the top is it lowering the bit?
@@firebladex8586 Oh the post drill. yes that paul and gear rotate the drive shaft down 1/6 of a thread each rotation of the handle. here is a video on restoring it. ruclips.net/video/5QaqDbQOyc0/видео.html
you set a timer on my google home.
sorry. I have scene made sure not to let that get into the videos. I once set a reminder for next Thursday on a bunch of them. oops!
If you love files, does that make you a fileophile?
LOL now that is a great one. I will have to remember that one!
After paying for the propane and the time in the oven, it's probably cheaper to buy one.
LOL probably!
@@WoodByWright But it was never about saving money. It was about competency.
Where's the fun in that ?
nice work, bad joke. lol.
Lol just the way I like it.
Agreed got to love a bad pun
I’ll give you a 👍, but the joke... wellllllllll. :-D
Lol thanks man.
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So much epoxy on the floor. Don’t get to see it as often as you.
Lol yup. Such a mess!
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I scanned a Navian, using my optical scanners. She was cute! I tried to read braille. She said try the library. So I checked out a librarian. She gave me a free pass!
I don't care how you temper it, but this is wood working. Use a plane!!! Isn't the planer the one doing the planing with the plane mainly in the plain? Or is it Spain?
I just can't understand why you are using that hard file,that is hard to drill . You ain't gonna make metal dowels.🙄
Harder steel will not dull as quickly as softer steel. and once annealed it is fairly easy to drill.
1. Don’t
2. Just buy a dowel plate
Lol yep that's why I did the other video first. This is just for the people who really want to make their own tools lol
I am a tool making animal.
You’ve got to be joking🤡 Who in their right mind would use a hand powered drill?
you would be surprised. there is a HUGE movement to hand tools in the last decade. a lot of people want to do the work. there is a lot of satisfaction for it.
i've seen you do some good videos but this one' WAY TOO MUCH TALK............get to the point man,,,,,,,,,,,,we don't need to hear about your drill that you rebuilt and don't use too often.........so with all that being said at 12:52 TOO MUCH WAS SAID.........
Thanks for the feedback. Most often I get the other comment that I do not say enough.