Your First Ferrari? The Portofino - Walkaround, Price, Options and Insanely Expensive Paint!
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- This week, Ferrari UK have been kind enough to loan me a brand new Portofino. The perfect car for a freezing British winter. However, I'm not going to let the weather get in the way of my enjoyment. In today's video, I give you a walkaround the car and talk you through the huge spec sheet on this quarter million pound Ferrari.
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Plus your dealer doesn’t want to fight you and the car is actually well made 😁
Just look at older models and second hand market experiences ?
@Uncle Joe S CaliT has proven pretty solid in reliability. None of key components (engine, trans, magniride suspension, folding roof) are new to the Porto, so no reason to think it would be any different. Heard a few little trim & related issues, as with any Ferrari, but still streets ahead of Mac or Aston in that dept.
And eff off with the Kia comparison...very different segment, different purposes, etc. Like interrupting a discussion on Scotch to say Absolut is cheaper and you like it. Yah, great, so what, go away
@Uncle Joe S Totally agree, buying a Ferrari -- or frankly, any car over $150k -- is an illogical decision. There are objectively better vehicles for way less. No-one is arguing with that. That's why Ferrari make 9,000 cars a year and Hyundai make north of a million. But that's not going to stop me illogically buying a Ferrari when I can afford to step up :)
Carl Maissan the FUCK did I just read....
@Smitty Rock I had a stroke trying to read your comment. Try some punctuation sometime; it's free.
Man this channel went so fast from cheap everyday motors to high end exotics. Its great to see you growing and getting access to such special cars... but don't forget about the more mundane stuff too! I like a mix and would bet that most viewers do as well :)
Andy well, as long as a souped up Jag gets 3x as many views as most high end sports cars, I’m sure James will not forget the more mundane cars for sure 😁👍
Andy, Monday's video is for you
@@JayEmmOnCars looking forward to it 😁
@Chris Stevens the channel will be featuring more EVs but for now fossil fuel cars arent going anywhere - and the argument is not a simple one
@Chris Stevens I think in that Orwellian scenario I'd have a lot more to worry about than my view count
I know a lot of Ferrari fans say these aren’t “real” Ferrari’s but they’re so awesome. As far as GT convertibles go, this is the dream. Just a masterpiece.
Well, most Ferrari fan's will never be able to afford one anyhow. Their opinions are irellevant.
@@Memovox well said.
Looks like a well thought through car, amazed how far back the engine is! Excellent detail touches, particularly the climate functions for quick access.
This is a Ferrari that knows its audience
AND, in part three, I'm going to give it....a JayScore......😉
+ Heavy breathing
Yes.. But with a better filming
You sound exhausted just walking around the car to describe it.
Ha
It’s bigger than the California.
just your average ferrari owner.
I would love to walk into a ferrari dealer, sit down in the configuration zone with my sales executive and just say no to every option. "this piece in carbon is £1450" me " no, plastic is fine"
£18,000 for matt paint? No ill have gloss and get matt ppf, cheaper plus protection.
The world is mad!
A good Ferrari dealer/sales exec won't force or ask you to take any option you don't want or ask for tbh. Also, happily, any of the interior stuff you don't spec as carbon comes as aluminium rather than plastic, which is nice, I guess.
Mclaren are even ridiculous for options..
@@strawman3059 Yep.
The hilarious thing is that matt paint is easier and cheaper to apply. Gloss paint is an absolute bear to get perfect. Matt/flat? Easy peasy.
@@gazzabrownhigh8891 that's pretty much my point Gazza. The whole thing is a racket. I don't understand people's fascination with visible carbon and its exorbitant price. Carbon fibre is a structural marvel, but to be selling it as trinkets and nearly doubling the price of the base car is pure madness and is driven by social media influencers
More like this is an Aston DB11 V8 and Bentley Continental GT V8 rival. Front engined, RWD coupé both of them.
I agree, I used to work at Lamborghini North Scottsdale and normally the customers interested in the DB11 Volante' were cross shopping next door with the Portofinos
He hasn't driven those though
Great insight again....makes paying £550 for the silver paint on my wifes new car seem so realistic !
Content, research, good videography and, most important, no variations in sound. Good on you and you deserve to have 100k + subs this new year.
The paint option on that car cost more than my Octavia Vrs second hand less than 1 year old. It came with apple car play and android.
Ferrari charge that much because they can
Boycott Ferraris until they show us poor people some respect. May be they won't
There's a growing number of very, very rich people about now. The option prices are almost irrelevant. They'll spec everything up and Ferrari will make a huge profit on those cars. 'Regular' well off folk will buy a base model on finance which is relatively affordable.
@@greathey1234 no chance because they know that it's unlikely we would ever be their customers
You can buy a condo for that money where I live in Asia
"I love my job".
Great review.
4:18 This is actually a smart move by Ferrari. As Ferrari's entry level model, the Portofino is likely to be driven much more frequently than higher spec models and so the extra ride height grants you the extra clearance you'll need to get over all those speed bumps. Similar reasoning with the thicker tyres - heavier use calls for thicker tyres which give a more comfortable ride.
Some people refer to the Portofino as the "Housewives Ferrari". But to be honest, aside from the GTC4 Lusso, there's no other model that's getting driven more frequently. I would take one and daily if I had the money.
I love the Portofino, and liked the California too, it’s the only 2+2 with a 2 piece folding roof, this is the same simple mechanism as a Z4 rather than a complex multi piece like a 4 series. Even though the back seats are useless I still like to have them for emergencies/luggage, and it looks like a 2 seater, the back seats don’t ruin the proportions by taking up too much room
I’ll take one in three years and 10,000 miles when it’s realistically priced
thats what i did for a cali T
I am not a fan of the Californias but the Portofino isn't bad, especially in the right color, those options though, Jesus.
Looks like a 407 coupe from the front! But no bad thing
Yes exactly!!!! Same design house i think
wilmotandrobottom probably both Pinnifarina designs
Thought the Sam e
I love the paint finish and it even makes me not mind the silver. The way paint looks all frosty before wet-sanding or clear is always my favourite.
Jumping right into 2020 eh JayEmm?
Don't forget to hit the bell icon people! You might not be his biggest fan for any number of reasons but I think you could agree this is the kind of person we should be giving the algorithm to! He has an air of responsibility about him in my opinion, whatchu think?
I love this little, incredibly expensive car. Definitely one of my favourites on the channel (so far)
Loved this car was brilliant
The roof is even cooler when you realise that you can operate it while driving - something you couldn't do in the Cali/Cali T. It then becomes significantly less cool when you actually operate the roof while driving, and have all the crap in your boot fall out onto the road. (Yes this happened to me, yes I'm an idiot.)
I like the 3rd gen Miata for how they handled the folding roof for it: it's just the front half of the rear deck that lifts up like an oversized wing, and the real cargo compartment stays shut ( ruclips.net/video/WGLaWfUnc8k/видео.html ). Although I wish the roof storage and the trunk were connected-they are separate compartments in that car.
@@Runoratsu The 488 Spider has a similar mechanism for the folding roof, however this makes sense as the engine is at the rear. The Portofino's roof is also much bigger since it's a 2+2 hence I guess having such a mechanism that opens the boot is a necessary evil. :(
I blink and hey, another 2k subscribers, you're on the right track! Maybe at 100k Ferrari will give you a go in more appropriate weather 😂
Telegraph Road is a great song! And clearly as you say, that car is a very special place to be in.
@Uncle Joe S Why is a Ferrari a bad daily driver in your opinion?
@Uncle Joe S Was just trying to figure out which angle you're coming from. I have one which I've used as a daily since I got it, (so around 9 months now). Insurance is fairly reasonable and if you don't go crazy on the options like this press one, negotiate a discount, (or if you pick one up used), it'll set you back around £160k. Not much more than a Bentley Continental/brand new McLaren 570s/very high spec high end AMG, all of which I've seen plenty of people dailying. And out of all those, the Ferrari will probably have the best residual value, from my personal experience anyway.
7 years free servicing and 4 years intl warranty so no maintenance to worry about. Fairly economical with fuel if you drive sensibly (hard to drive sensibly in a Ferrari but it is possible). Decent sized boot, and plenty of storage space inside. Yes, obviously not many people have £160k lying around to spend on an everyday car, but if you do, it's probably one of the best cars around to daily.
@Uncle Joe S Haha no worries you weren't being rude, unfortunately stupid costs come part and parcel with a car experience like this and I think it's worth sharing all the good and bad aspects of owning and driving cars like these! I can see where you're coming from. I live in central London where Ferraris/Lambos etc are very common place and used frequently by a lot of Londoners as daily drivers. Over here, if you have a subtle spec you can get away with relative anonymity due to the sheer amount of other flashy hypercars rolling around that pull more attention over a subtly spec'd Portofino. Don't get me wrong, as much as I love dailying a car like this, I also have a VW Polo for when the stress of driving something like that becomes too much and I need a break, and it's honestly very freeing, lmao.
An MX-5 is an excellent car and a good choice. Enjoy your sleep and have a wonderful day my dude, take care and cheers!
One thing needing clarification, the carbon 'cupholder' 6:35 at £1400 is a tad misleading. The Carbon Cupholder also includes all the carbon bits surrounding it, as well as the carbon bits around the window/roof operation buttons and the key slot. Ironically the £1600 carbon bridge has less (visible) carbon than the £1400 carbon 'cupholder' (which isn't *just* the cupholder). Either way doesn't make the options list of this and most modern Ferraris any less obscene. Good old Ferrari doing their usual Ferrari things.
This is a home run for Ferrari. Bravo!
My Alfa was cheaper than a carbon fiber cup holder cover. Unbelievable. Despite the mad pricing on the options it's a magnificent car to behold.
Looks like Ferrari is just selling you a name with this one.
looks shit. the California T looks way better imo.
Lets challenge Jay to do an entire video without mentioning the name McLaren 🤣
wow, JayEmm goes from strength to strength...what a way to start a new decade....
Great review. I like how you mentioned the infotainment having physical buttons/wheels, Tesla has been a bad influence in that regards with cars going full touchscreen. It's too expensive for me whereas I could afford the F Type SVR but still enjoyed this.
A fully loaded AMG GTC soft top would be a natural rival.
if you like the awful dealer network and a five year old car, suppose so.
Oh no, the Ferrari drives, sounds and looks so much better.
A Ferrari press car? Another great step James; congrats! 👍👍
I love the satin silver. You could just option Argento Nurburgring and put on a satin wrap for way less.
The sensors on the grill are far too noticeable.
They probably don't stand out as much with a stock chrome grille.
So is the camera on the Urus and Cayenne.
That paint is just incredible.
How much do you think it will cost roughly in 5-10 years?
Ferris Bueller's day of 2020.
Big City yeah yeah!
I agree with you about the part where you sit in the car and look what's in front of you. That stuff is absolutely beautiful, the displays, the central rev meter, the wheel... You want that when you sit in a car of this kind.
The only thing I like about silver is that it's the best looking colour when dirty, seems to hide the grime.
Strangely, it suits the Porto.
There was a time when Ferrari deliberately had no options. It was "that's the car, take it or leave it". The paint option alone was almost the price of my first Ferrari (308), but I don't think you can get sub-£20k Ferraris that aren't money pits anymore.
know that is much better looking than those Mclarens! so nice looking and stunning looking head on!
The front height looks very odd, does it have a lift engaged for speed bumps etc???
I thought that, too.
It looks like they designed it to have a very practical ride height for everyday use.
No lift available on this car
JayEmm on Cars strange, really does look odd! Great review, looking forward to the 2nd part 👍👍
One thing that immediately stands out to me is the beautiful allen head lug nuts that will help protect your wheels from scratches during tire changes.
I would have a mechanic remove the motors from the roof and make it retract manually or itll cost 100,000 quick to keep operating mechanically over the next 10 years
Looks so similar to the California T that I wouldn't know the difference if seen on the road.
Looking forward to part 2. When will you release it?
The roof operation is almost exactly the same on a BMW Z4 E89.. Sure, much less desirable but also a lot more affordable for most people..
@@namegoeshere6638 I'm with you, very puzzling we seem to be in the minority as I thought that the Cali was a much prettier car, this one wants to look more masculine/muscular but the front especially doesn't quite look right.-Mr STT
Across the pond, many of these are sitting unsold on dealer lot. Buyers know the depreciation on front engine models are significant.
The car seems to be literally breathtaking for you 😀
Lol i was thinking the same thing
Frameless rear view mirror is a very good attention to detail
I think the Cali T was pretty bad ass actually...
An interesting review. I’m not sure as nice as it is that it works for me. Why is it so high at the front. They spend loads of time designing it then do that to it.
I think better rivals are the Aston Martin DB11 Convertible or the Bentley Continental V8 Convertible
The Aston yes, but the Bentley not so much
My current favourite Ferrari. Thank you Jay, i am looking Forward to Part 2. Didnt Know about the engine sitting so low and behind. Very interesting
It is simply beautiful
Ryanair were clearly inspired by Ferrari. Who'd have thought it?
Ferrari have nailed it with the looks on the Portofino. The California always looked a bit unbalanced.
Does carbon fibre mean "licence to print money" in Italian?
Welcome to 2020 where panel gaps are a fashion statement rather than shoddy build quality.
Thank you for this excellent review. Looking forward to part 2. Lovely, lovely Ferrari!
This review convinced me to buy this car.. now i just need to find the money
I like this idea of the two videos for the car . I preferred the interior video 😄 Happy New Year
That door profile makes the car look like it was in an accident
Great video had my Portofino 2 month loved every minute so far even in the rain.
It looks very nice...!!!
That look reminds me very much abt my BMW Z4!
When you press the home button underneath the centre display, it took your £250000 ka1 second before it actually change the screen. That's on a par with a Chinese phone that costs £25
Thank you great review they don't price the options on the website. Can I ask were you nervous of speed bumps and of someone opening a door on it and denting it when you left it and if so did it affect your enjoyment. All the best from your friends on ROI.
the vw eos opened the roof in exactly the same way..........just a little bit slower ; )
edit: not even slower
Hey what a great start to the New Year... You lucky dog....GN
I know right?
The Best Job in the world .... Reviewing Cars 😍😎
Silly questions: Is this front end high enough so that it doesn't scratch on sloped driveways (that are prevalent in the US)? What could one do for that (avoid frequently replacing front end air spoiler) ... installing an air suspension kit?
seems to me that most manufacturers, especially at the higher end, know that most cars will be bought with a host of options, they can see the profiles and put the base price , i.e. headline figure, as low as they can or even at a loss, knowing full well that a few must have options will take them into profit and a few more will push the profit up. If they add too much to the standard price, it would have been listed at 200k+ and everyone would say it is priced too high.
It almost looks in that last bit when you drive away as well as your comment about the car seeming to be high that there is a lift kit perhaps? It almost looks like the front of a 488 when the lift kit is engaged. it wasn't listed in the options and you didn't mention it otherwise. So you know if that's an option?
Nice review, Jay, of an obviously brilliant car. I’d be happy to accept one, but would much prefer it in Ferrari red. 👍
I'm with you on that
Obviously they make the wiring loom compatible with everything as standard...kching.
Get in shape for 2020! We can hear your hard breathing!
So what. I noticed it too, but He can decide that on his own, since He is a grown man. I am here cause Jay is great at his job and i prefer him to other reviewers. He is above all honest and fair.
You try talking for a long period of time when it's really cold, then let's hear how hard your breathing is.
@@delbmx92 Yeah, it's just the cold that's making him gasp, just the cold.
Damn, the paint is 10 times more expensive than my proton gen2
Wanted to buy the base model but sadly I can put down only 166,550 pounds.
Surely DB11, 992 Turbo S and maybe even the Conti GT are it's rivals - the Jag will be worth £40k in 3 years and the McLaren is not practical...and will break and again, will be worth around £80k in 3 years.
Stunning machine
Gear paddles don’t move because you shouldn’t be changing gear mid corner.
Great thorough review Jay. I get you can only compare to cars you've driven, but sorry, I can't see anyone cross-shopping a Porto and Jag F-Type. Aston DB11, Bentley GT V8, Porsche 911 Turbo are surely more realistic for someone who wants supercar sense-of-occasion in a more comfortable, less bling package than a mid-engined supercar I love the Porto but then I'm weird and actually really like the CaliT too... drives great, feels special, pretty solid reliability and looking very attractive at current deals
PS - Congrats on getting yourself access to a Ferrari presser! Things are looking good for the channel!
That color is sick but how do you maintain a matte color like that?
Just curious, options, being what they are - options, what'd a car look like without all those carbon fibre oppos? Would they even sell you one?
Rather than the Jaguar F-Type, a better comparison would be the AMG GTC/GTR Cabrio. It’s half the price for perhaps better performance.
Huge improvement over the California, and a better name to go with it!
Great video James, getting better and better.
That roof is a work of art.
It's a very standard folding sequence for most powered hard tops. My E89 folded the same way from 2009
I’ve driven a NA California and enjoyed it, this looks like it’s moved the game on quite a bit. I really like it. I think I would be ignoring all those carbon options though - horrific money for little payback IMO. The passenger display is something I can’t get my head round. Who is speccing that option for 3 grand? Madness!! Looks like a superb GT car, and a much more comfortable proposition over say a 488 for everyday use. Great review as always 😎
Wow, I didn't know options are SOOO expensive... That's half the car in options and I'm sure you could spend even more!
Jay - "One day I'd like to be a Ferarri owner, but unfortunately, that may still be someway off." *BuysAF550
What would be wrong with a standard no options car ?
This is an awesome car.
It looks very similar to the jaguar f type front
Really enjoyed this review. Very well made. Love the car. Would personally find it hard to justify a spec above 200k if I was buying one personally.
You could have a great car for 200k
I may have missed it, but how many torsos actually fit in that trunk? Asking for a friend! Apart from that, great review. Ferrari really are in a league of their own.
You need to stop saying "they should just give you as standard." These cars are priced to be sold to the 1% wealth hoarders and you're gonna have to pry that wealth from the cold dead hands of their lawyers. So we normal folk SHOULD be happy that Ferarri are charging the price of a new regular car for just a paint job. Fararri & all luxury product sellers are just trying their best to recirculate cash into the system.
Just to be serious for a moment: I think it's hilarious that anyone would specify an £18,000 paint job to make a car look as though it's just had a coat of £3.99 grey primer from Halfords. Agitate thoroughly before and during use; hold can upright; several light coats are better than -
And yes, Enzo, I'm exactly the kind of girl who'd point out that the Emperor's new clothes were invisible.
I've got a few tins of grey emulsion under the stairs. I would have done the paint job for £10000. Cash.