SBW - Traditional Animation mentality & habits for digital medium
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- Опубликовано: 23 фев 2016
- Today's episode on the String Bing Workshop is about traditional animation skills and habits to keep when approaching 2D hand drawn animation. We talk about traditional animation techniques that will help for the digital medium, and habits to stay away from.
Special thanks to Scott Wright, Matt Williames, Patrick Stannard, Samantha Maurer, and Sandeepan Chanda for the extra help!
MUSIC:
Saint Patrick's Parade - Doug Maxwell
Climbing - Bird Creek
Highway Wild Flowers - Bird Creek
Dusty Tears - Silent Partner
Believer - Silent Partner
Somehow I went for years without knowing there is a benefit to NOT using the onion skin or a light table.
Crowne Prince Thanks for introducing me to this video !
personally I don't get it..
I couldn't help but read your comment with your voice.. Crowne
And I went four years without realizing such important lessons existed!😁
I've allways used the onion skin because i'm actually self taugh and i allways wondered why do some frames look awful when i actually made the frame ''right'' and this has opened my eyes! It will be an habit hard to break but now i know that i'm doing it wrong, thank you so much men!
Ahahaha, I loved that animation in the beginning! Your stuff is so good man.
This actually brought a lot of good things to light that I didn't even realise before. Thank you Toniko!
While I'm neither an animator, nor can't draw to save my life, I find these workshops fascinating and incredibly well produced. Kudos Toneeks!
This is really helpful honestly
I've always loved that soft, smooth look in 2-D animations like how the classic Disney style was(I say was because there hasn't been a 2-D animated movie in so long, most companies are going to 3-D animation)
I started looking into it because I want to learn how they do it, and this video helped me learn a little more
That's it!! Not using onion skin has now saved me. I knew something felt off but just never even considered turning it off. Feels silly to say. Thank you!
I remember you from Deviantart when i was still studying art and animation. It's nice to see that you have continued and improved over several years. Also, WHERE THE HELL WAS THIS VIDEO WHEN I NEEDED IT. I could've practiced more with this knowledge months ago. Damn it, no time like the present. Thanks so much for this advice and i'll use it to the full extent.
So you call 'em Flashimators, ey? I prefer the term Flanimator meself.
And yeh, I totally need to limit my onion skin usage. I notice I can get stuff pretty flowing when I just mindlessly draw, but struggle a little when animating over my animatic drawings.
I know this is an old video I HOPE YOU KNOW CUPHEAD because that game look amazing and they animate everything with handrawn and its pretty amazing!!!!! And thr soundtrack too they make the game feel old and it work
I love this video, and I learned allot from it! One mistake I was doing was onion skinning with large spaces, surprisingly though, I was thinking about arcs anyway. The other were my somewhat too technical drawings, and also the planning. But now I know that it can be done better, and I thank you for that!
God this video is absolutely incredible! Alot of things I don't think about in animating. One of the nicest thing about digital is being able to resize and move things if a single frame is wrong (not copying and pasting.) I'm so glad my teachers had us do traditional work on paper before doing digital, it was tremendously helpful.
Hey Ton! I see you're doing really well with your animations! Really makes me wish we had more time to talk during Christmas last year! Hope to see you soon! Great work!
I love your videos! They always answer questions I've been having for a long time but couldn't put into words. Thank you and please keep doing more c: You're awesome!
I found your work a few years ago Toniko, and to this day you're one of my biggest inspirations.
Omg! i saw you on newgrounds many years ago. You made cartoon about Serpent , i . I recognoze that was you. i want to say thank you so much. I am interested in animation becouse of you. Спасибо большое.
This was extremely encouraging and validating to watch! I'm currently studying at a school that strongly emphasizes and focuses in traditional animation. I love animating on paper, but sometimes I'll worry about "catching up" to people who already know how to animate digitally. Overall, I know it doesn't matter, and that my traditional training will translate well into digital once I take the time to learn. Thanks Toniko!
this was really helpful AND entertaining!
These tutorials help a lot!
Im animating for my college project right now and this was a super helpful video! There was lots of your points that I hadn't even thought about before this video
I was following you on twitter but i didnt know you have the best animation tutorial on youtube! Thanks a lot for this!! i almost feel like I could already pursue animation confidently! You're amazing!!
This video was great! I'm so glad I've found your channel, I've subscribed!
Super informative, and really well explained! Thank you for this!!
Thank you so much for this video, the tips and your heartwarming encouragement for us all to keep traditional animation at live.
Thank you very much for the animation habit tips. much appreciated.
This is sooooo cool !!!
Thank you so much :D
really inspiring
the beginning of this was fantastic
thank you! this helped me a lot! I'm guilty of some of the bad habits you mentioned haha
Where was this channel 2 years ago ? ! Amazing !
Beautiful animation
I love education videos with good background education music and also contains examples and swearings XD
Amazing, thank you!!
Thanks so much for this video! It's really cool, and made me think about a bunch of stuff I hadn't before!
That is so helpfull! Thank you ! I love your videos
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! You really inspire me
Thanks so much for these tips! Couldn't agree more!
Oh shit. Fancy seeing you here, sir.
+Mīmu-ō ikr 😂
Really great video and tips! Wish i have find this some years ago...
Subscribed!
Thank you very much!
Thank's so much! just subscribed and this vid has helped me alot!
this was really good, thanks!!
Very high quality content... thank you.
This is such a great topic.
This really helps! i had watched your informational videos on breakdowns, inbetweening and timing. I want to get a good started feeling of traditional work and flow in animation. Although i use Flipaclip which has a lot of advanced tools, sketching and being accurate is my way to go for a smoother look in what i draw. Thank you for your guidance!
This is a great video. Thank you for sharing.
Cool video bud! Thanks for the tips.
Its amazing how the redrawn head looks so much better 7:26
Thank you so much for making this
Thank you so much!
it's gold
7:04 this is amazing and reminds me of the old aerobics performance
your narration is so peaceful, and i always imagine you as that tiny puppy, so it ends up hilarious whenever you cuss
Thanks for sharing man. Amazing animation and sound knowledge for someone like me who is self taught. I look forward to more of your tutorials and informative tips. Do you have any videos for putting together a good demo reel focusing on action and special effects for 2d animators?
Thank you this was very helpful to me.
great vid thanks
So helpful :D Some of these could also be applied in digital drawing/painting. For one, I am practicing to not use layers and undo (especially undo....you can't have that in traditional xD). I do this to train myself to draw carefully, and to make my artworks have that traditional feel. This video also make me inspired further to create animations.
But I still want to learn those numbers in animation :)
Great video as always! Also Bon Bon is so fucking adorable jesus christ.
thisvis inspire me, thank you
Beautifully done tutorial! Made me rethink my animating approaches :)
Really good tips.
Good video bro, it was really helpfull
bon-bon my beloved!
You make animation into an exploration. Inspiring. I mean, I read books a lot and I already have heard advice like this.
I have a brain issue that makes it hard for me not to feel crushed, overwhelmed, and confused.
Where people have willpower and the capacity to push through, I have to carefully order my choices and actions every day in order to be able to achieve a simple perspective study.
I can't learn in school. Most of what I learned in school was from back when it was experiential, in grade school, or some stuff from alternative schooling which only in one case with one teacher can i say I completely became capable.
Although I could get high grades in alternative school as opposed to the normal form because the structure was more free and I could use the flexibility to do diverse and in depth research and topics, I still couldn't hold onto the information afterwards because the structure was still the same.
In college it was the same. I could pass college with a high average. I got an invitation into another program without need for a portfolio.
I can not remember a single thing. I do not learn from homework. I can at best complete the work very well, and I can claim in the moment to have maybe in some cases learned, however in a week the information will fade away.
I can try to practice, but the fact is since I never understood the basic function or concept, I actually didn't learn anything and practice won't impart anything because I'll be doing the exact same thing I was the first time. I've spent so many hours gesture drawing like I learned in college. I went through college and years after college completely bemused about what gesture drawing was. I read book upon book upon book. It recently took a book on animals by hugh laidman and some notes by walt stanchfeild and some other stuff -
I'm tiring myself out lol oops-
For me to understand what it was I was supposed to be doing /thinking when gesture drawing. Same with perspective, this year. I'm almost 30 and been through years of education, tons of trial and error, and lots of reading, and it's taken very specific circumstances for me to be able to comprehend gesture drawing or perspective drawing. I'm still not there yet, but I'm learning.
So, to tie this back, I can't go to college or university for the things I love. If it was free, I'd risk it, because I wouldn't have to worry about GPA and I could probably afford to be fussy about spacing of projects. I mean. I don't know if I'd be able to learn since the environment would still be a school one and except for that one teacher who taught me in a one on one very specific way because I'd recently been out of the hospital, I don't seem to absorb information, but it'd be better than nothing or my own structure, you know?
Even the program for people who have issues similar to me requires you to have a functioning executive function, which is unfortunately the area of my brain impacted most.
Books are all well and good, but sometimes you need someone else there who can help. RUclips and channels like this are invaluable. The tips I heard here I haven't read in the many books I'd read, and I may not have because time changes things quickly.
This was amazing and I'm so happy I found this because it reminded me what I love about animation and what I want to accomplish with it.
Thank you so much for this video!!!
Answered all the questions I didn't know how to ask!
amazing how other animators learn from each other maybe i can join with them.
I have so many bad habits to break
My god this is amazing, love the tips and the music is so relaxing! what do you think of After effects as an animation tool?
With rule 6: I found myself with a short visual memory span, so I often end up with a detailed version of the anatomy of the characters. Perspective is my worst area and I end up spending ages jsut trying to get one small thing right. part of that came from my lack of background in art fundenmentals.
Would you happen to have any resources on where to find tables and what paper to use for traditional animation?
Woah this is probably one of the most informative animation videos I have ever seen. Thanks for the advice!
I'm actually a self-taught digital animator who wants to move to traditional because the tactile nature of analog mediums is beneficial to my art.
the way i went NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO when i heard you say to use the onion skinning tool less,,, i never knew it could be a bad habit!! ive never animated without onion skin on but i guess,,, i shall learn,,,,,
this is nice
Wow. 0 Dislikes. That is simply amazing.
*Bon-Bon* is my Nickname!!!
Thank you so much. LOL
Really nice video! While I agree with pretty much everything, I'd like to add that while traditional hand-drawn animation looks great, I think it can only survive in the cartoon form in the modern age. The Calarts/Disney style, which emphasizes the more realistic human anatomy can be replaced by the 3D softwares today, as it is much easier to have solid proportions on a puppet. But to have flexible and organic movement is not that easy to do in 3D, so that's where 2D cartoon come in. They have simple forms and proportions, but the levels of exaggerations are much higher, and can be easily achieved in shorter time spans. Sadly, most studios today do not take full advantage of this, so we see flat and ugly 2D cartoons which have cut-outs for bodies.
Where do you get the tools for set up? You know, the plexiglass circle thing, the animation paper, et cetera?
+Robert Moorhead I actually got my animation disc and paper during my days at school (I still keep the paper) but you can look them up at www.cartooncolor.com/ since that is where my disc came from. It comes with the peg bars too.
+Robert Moorhead What you can also do is buy a clipboard or light table, get a separate animation peg bar and tape it. I have portable light table in the philippines in which I had to add a separate peg bar.
quando você exporta do Flash para o after efects você exporta em qual formato...PNG sequence ou sequence JPEG?
Do you (or anyone reading this comment) have tips on creating an animation table/board that holds paper in place, so it’s easier to flip and see the animation? I’m unsure if that’s “necessary” but from what I’ve read, it’s how most/many traditional animators work?
Thank you for this incredibly helpful video !!
very useful
look at all these animators
this video was exactly what i needed!
What's the animation used at around 7:10 when you were talking about copying and pasting the head? I'd like to see it
Hey at 11:54 talking about trying traditional animation, what is that drawing set up called? The large thin sheets that you flip through? I would love to get one or something similar, thanks :)
Also is the 'Be as Keane as I' poster a real thing? I want one! haha
Thanks
Man! Your animation is grat, and fluid. Your videos make all the points you want to communicate very clear! Congratulations!
I'd like to know if you intent do do a video about Breakdowns.
Thank you very mutch for producing these material!
how arent you more known? this is really good content, thank you a lot!
Can anyone help me? i cant find the last song that plays here 12:26
really help full....
thanku so much....
really inspired me again to continue on my way for 2d hand drawn animation....
thank u again....
1:45 this tool looks hella timesaving!! Someone know how its called?
They call it the puppet method i think
Got any advice for a 21 year old with minimal art skills, and starting from ground zero?
Same but im 14 lol
These are all really nice things to think about! I will definitely implement this type of thinking in the future.
I do have a few questions though. How do you get that grainy quality to your digital lines? I'm really looking to get the same effect. And what is the program shown at 6:03?? It seems like it might have more brush choices than flash does.
Thank you!
+EraMinkie101 TVPaint is the answer to both of those questions.
***** Thank you! :>
You should see Opentoonz. It is the new free open-source software only released few weeks ago. There is one other software that you should watch out for: Krita. In few weeks time, Krita will have new animation features. You won't get enough of Krita as it has lots of brushes that you can't resist.
Rita Geraghty I downloaded opentoonz but haven't been able to mess around with it. I will definitely look into Krita too! Thank you!
EraMinkie101, If you are starting out 2D animation and that you want to use free open-source softwares, see softwares below, starting with the easiest first.
1. Pencil2D. Simple and easy to use. Useful for pencil tests.
2. Tupi 2D Magic. Simple enough.
3. Inkscape, vector graphic design software. Useful for many file conversions. Great for inking stills. Export files as png or svg before importing into any animation of choice. Be sure to convert Path Effects into objects before exporting files. Inkscape has great interpolation tools, useful for animation.
4. MyPaint, lightweight program. Very simple painting software. Great for creating stills. I often use MyPaint for rough sketches. It has highly realistic pencils. I love its limitless canvas, great for planning storyboards. Optionally, you can quickly set dimensions at the beginning or end - or leave it limitless.
5. Krita, industry standard, free alternative to Photoshop. Great path tools, useful for animation. Krita will have new animation features in upcoming version 3.0 in few weeks time. Worth waiting.
6. Blender, useful for video editing, 2D & 3D animation. Warning: steep learning curve. Tutorials for an absolute beginners, go to link below. Be sure to scroll the page further down to the list of tutorials. gryllus.net/Blender/3D.html.
Amazing video, all I have to animate is the 3ds flipnote shit, LOL
6:01 That my friend, how cartoon meme was born, look at Jerry mouse meme , and patrick star sticking on the ceiling etc., its not only but also funny it created a new humour these days and also grab them a new audience to watch their shows
What's the name of his intro/outro music? It's not listed in the description
I can do animations, but when it comes to my stories for movie ideas, I must use still images to balance myself and let visuals flow better for quality.
Very nicely straight to the point!
I find myself going into drawing frames with out a plan and then find myself on what else I should put XP I'll try to sketch thumbnail poses more and write what action I want to animate instead of having a few movements then get stuck with what I got out of the blue. ^^'
awesome video (Y)
Hi Toniko Pantoja,Thanks so much for these wonderfull experience ! I`m a student and i want to know the software that u used to show kongfu girl ? plz tell me ,thank you very much
Such a lovely video!
Can you make a video where you show all your process creating a shot?
I'd would love to see how you did this animation in this video.
And how do you break up the other people characters to know how to draw them? Whats the thought process?
+Iuri Monteiro I have a five parter video tutorial on how I start a shot from the very beginning animation phase to its final render. Check that out on my channel!
ruclips.net/video/ZS-TzmAkkic/видео.html
+Toniko Pantoja yup i saw them but my 2 question remain, how do you do to break up other people characters and adapt for your use, whats the thinking process behind? Thank you for your time sir :D
I'll probably make a video on that, but what I usually do is draw/trace over the original material to get a sense of it, study its proportions, etc
+Toniko Pantoja ok, thx. do you also know where can i learn more about that? like books, videos..
Not that I know of, but I'd say things that you learn in still life/life drawings such as observation, contour, structure, maintaining proportions of the figure also applies to drawing other characters...
5:55 happens to me everytime.
Hey toniko. Is it possible to do 2d animation without light table at all ?