Why artists and creators must practice HOLDING BACK
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- Опубликовано: 5 апр 2024
- I talk about why holding back your true powers are important in your creative work!
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Instructions unclear, my drawing tablet is all sticky now.
Man, what was unclear? You had to stay on edge!
I think he said edging. You failed the mission
You should do more edging practice
LMFAOOOO
Nah jit trippin
**saw title**
**went directly to the comment section**
Same
Same😂
same
same
same
every artist should learn how to WHAT?!
THat was my REACTION!
He had to have known.
Normally when people react to a variant of the word edge they're just inserting innuendo where it wasn't, but this time it was 100% intentional.
Thats what im sayin
Don't mind if i do!
WAHOO! WAHOO! WAHOO- WAHOO- WAHOO-WAHOO-WAHO-WAHO-WA-WA-WA-WA-WA-WA-
WA-
**WAHOO!**
Pros of edging to art:
- you accumulate a lot of energy
- you can harness that energy on productivity
- the limitation gets you excited to fit things in like a fun puzzle
- you pump out quicker and more fluid shots of animation
- you harden your artistic appreciation
- you start getting closer faster to release your projects
- you become better at doing it just to your imagination
- you get the broader picture more worked up than getting stuck on details
- it's better than going all out then feeling tired once you finish writing the climax
You BUST A NUT!
I’m mature.
I'm mature.
I swear I'm mature.
cons: is you do it wrong your tablet gets sticky
"every artist should be edging" say no more brotha
i'm going to edge.
Dawg we gotta talk about your pfp.
The level of marketing on this I swear.... 😂😂😂
accursed update? pls 😞
WE'RE EDGING TO THIS ONE 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥⁉️⁉️⁉️💯💯💯💯
That’s a crazy statement to say out loud with no context
1. limitation breeds creativity
2. resource allocation
3. edging
@@winkstack6410 the most important
>breeds
Breeds
no matter what we breed....
"I think every artist should learn how to edge" *cute intro plays*
This definitely is good advice, especially for TV series where you need to pump out a lot of shots fast.
i’m sorry but,
the usage of the word “pump” on a vid about how artists/creators should edge, especially when you ARE one (and a good one a that) is a tad bit uhhh how you say? *odd*
We'll artist do have to pump out a lot of cpntent for social media so it makes sense. Those shots won't pump themselves out
We really do have to pump out shots.
For content of course.
dawg
@@enderguardian7443 Yeah, what I meant is in this kind of projects (TV series in particular) you should rather do the bare minimum in terms of quality for most shots that would not be too important just to save energy and not burn yourself out (they just need to meet a minimum standard, they don't need to be the absolute best, especially if it's just a transition shot that no one's gonna notice), and only focus on the few shots that you might like and want to use in a portfolio for a future project.
Remember: TV series will ask you +10 seconds of animation per day to meet quotas, which is quite a lot, especially for inexperienced artists.
And even for feature films where you'll have more time you might end up getting so much directorial retakes that at some point that all the energy you poured in your first versions might be wasted since the end result will have nothing to do.
Don't work hard, work smart. 👍
Even for personal projects it helps a lot.
Finally something that I'm a master at before the tutorial even starts.
what
@@loftvh Finally something that he's a master at before the tutorial even starts.
I'm not a master at this topic sadly. I'm more of a master baiter!
When I saw the thumbnail, I already knew what will be happening in the comment section 💀
But you decided to come regardless. Respect.
I love it
@@magnopereAY 😂 come on now
@@magnopereCum. XD
@@L0rdOfThePiesCum on. XD
It happens naturally when we get older. We often prioritize completing projects efficiently rather than pouring everything into them. Every year feels a bit closer to the end, and I want to make sure I finish the things that matter most before then.
Okay, now I have a dilemma. I only achieve a flow state when I create my own work. When I work for others, translating their vision into visuals requires applying the best techniques I have, but it lacks the spark I feel with my own ideas. While I can translate their vision effectively, it's good enough to secure some awards and recognition for my clients. The real challenge is balancing the need to create work that sells with the desire to pursue my own passions, which keeps me out of that flow state. Haha, it's a classic 'egg and chicken' dilemma! I truly envy artists who can draw for others and maintain that creative flow. It feels like a daily struggle for me.
@@Carillasomething (Sorry! English is not my first language. I fixed it. thanks for the heads up!)
I relate to this heavily
You can't start us off like this. I feel violated.
Cool video.
sorry toniko....i couldn't hold it innnn
wtf
bro
@@ScoopOfButter yes?
You heard em guys, START. YOUR. EDGING!!!
I couldn't even edge to this. I exploded immediately!!! Clean up on Aisle: My pants!
The meaning of BATHROOM is a room containing a bathtub or shower and usually a sink and toilet.
@@UpsTubeTheRUclipsr haha skibidi toilet!
@@IPlayKindred oh that's a thing?
brb gonna edge to this video
I made a whole joke animation while listening to this in the background, your advice was extremely helpful. I refuse to accept the literal interpretation.
you cannot escape us
Clicked to edge, stayed to finish.
The most helpful advice I've ever recieved: giving your "best" has to be spread out. If I'm giving 100% in my art, then other important areas in my life like relationships or taking care of myself are getting nothing. To be honest it's been hard for me to fully apply this advice 'cause I didn't know how to give any less, but think this video gave me a tangible place to start. Imposing limitations like time, medium, and level of finish, trusting that the result doesn't have to be "perfect" to make the creative effort worthy. Thanks for the vid!
thanks! ill make sure to edge as much as possible next time i try animation
I know someone who was working on a comic 4-5 years ago, they gave up on their original comic idea that they really wanted to do because they didn't think they were good enough yet. But now theyre still stuck like 5 years later trying to do that other comic first, they'll probably never actually finish any of these comics.
Creative people with infinite freedom seem to actually end up accomplishing nothing.
I support an animation patreon that recently blew up and now Im thinking oh great theyre probably going to struggle like hell to ever actually produce the 2nd episode because they are going to have all these insane self imposed standards because of this support when in reality very few people care and just want to see you make the thing.
I remember back when the hobbit movies released some essayist was talking about why hobbit sucked and LoTR didn’t. There are many reasons for it (Peter Jackson not wanting to do it not withstanding). But one reason was the budget. LoTR had a limited budget and they had to think *inside the box.*
We often get told to be create and think outside the box. But one rarely talk about how beneficial it is to think inside one.
Jokes aside, I really needed this today. I try to practice everyday, and i just hate that Im not giving it my all nowadays which is causing me to just want to give up.
I hated that I used shortcuts, but hopefully now im more accepting of these aspects while being able to do focus on what I need at the moment.
sameee i made that mistake with storyboarding for my animation too recently😭😭
I think Toniko unlocked a part of his audience that he didn't know existed considering the circumstances
Considering the circumcisions
cirCUMstances
I feel like this is exactly the video I needed on my life right now. I been burned out for a while trying to finish projects that feel endless because I want to do my best, but just ends with my ADHD pushing me back and make me crash.
Will restart with baby steps, put some rules and limitations to finish a lot of smaller stuff before jumping on the bigger things again.
I been gooning at the computer for months now, getting close to finishing projects before letting off and starting a new one
creative limitations is so under rated. some people don't like it because of the word limitations thinking it will entirely hinder them completely, but very few people know that many inventions & great minds of history were able to do what they did and create because of the limitations during their time. you can do more with less.
This is such good advice, it's so easy to fall into these struggles of doing too much and burning out so fast. I found myself able to get so much more done when i allowed myself to make less "perfect work" and focus on certain aspects - like focusing on movements or transitions with rough loose drawings with less detail rather than redoing lineart every few seconds. I can always go back and add the neater details, yet if I am burned out- I just scrap the project to get it over with- it's so important to balance out where you're putting your effort.
I love the thought of edging. Hardest thing for me is, to have enough self-control to commit to edging. I'm insanely overwhelmed by all the available material nowadays and I'm way too curious about all the things I could add to my load of knowledge. It always ends up the same way and as crazy as it sounds, since edging is the goal, I never get to finish because I only want to finish if my load consists of all the things I've thought about adding to it. I don't know how to break this devilish cycle. This video hits way too hard.
oh i'll try edging all right.
WE SHOULD LEARN WHAT?!
Edggggg
LET'S EDGE!!!!
To use Microsoft Edge 😁
I'm now going to edge everyday.
Jokes aside, I REALLY NEEDED THIS VIDEO. The amount of times I try to use all the brushes, or make everything super detailed, or time management
I can’t thank you enough, I am often overwhelmed by the amount of opportunities on digital
Yes, go tell everyone that edging helped you a lot 😁
Um guys.. I think I messed up. My children are all over the screen now..
boneless children
i will edge to the max thank you professor
It's goid to not over bake. Simple can work just fine. It's goid to help others understand they don't need to reach that "perfect" that they imagine. Sometimes ones personal can end in delays or even procrastination due to wanting to meet that personal view of "perfectuon". I often tell people don't over think it. First get the basics down that you need. If you have spare time go further. Don't need to create an art block due to the "perfection" we personally seek
way ahead of you bro
This video saved my edging streak🗿
Bro knew what he was doing with that statement 💀
I've been edging my whole life.
I'm learning animation only just now but I agree on this so much. But illustration wise, I used to polish lineart so much, even zooming in to the pixels and drawing and erasing strokes over and over again to just realize that it looks way too stiff and lifeless. Now I don't really care, even with rendered pieces, I just love how "raw" it looks like
This is such a good point, but I think it’s hard. Sometimes when you try to go low energy on projects you end up with results you don’t like and that’s even worst than burning too much energy I think.
Clearly, it's not the only thing that's hard!
I'm not an artist but ive been edging since I was 13 years old
YES SIR 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
I feel like this video was some sort of divine intervention after my right shoulder started to hurt from pumping out too many drawings that I always give my 100% to. Thank you kind stranger
This is insanely coincidental, I'm just reaching this conclusion recently. I finished an animation and it took SO MUCH effort that I'm thinking I'll simplify and work way less hard on the next one. The trick will be to keep the quality at an acceptable level, maybe it's all about the limitations really. I stopped shading the drawings completely now xD
Wow. This video had me on the *edge* of my seat! I was really *holding back* tears! I eventually *came* to the realization that this video has a good message and decent advice. My emotions felt like they were *jerking* around the whole time! Honestly, there were a few times where I put things into perspective and *backed up. Honestly, in the end, I ejacula-*
😆Dude my edge streak is nearly 2 years (how long I've been holding back when animating) I think doing this has Actually improved my skills an insane amount. It feels like my abilities have accumulated and gotten better on their own, but I've likely just learned more creative ways to animate or draw.
Toniko really knew how to get all of us to click on the video 💀
(Jokes aside, this is really cool to know!! Thanks!)
yeah, I kind of struggle with that too. I'm animating a series and I'm working on Episode 2 since more than 2 Years now partially because I want to make it as good and "perfect" as possible. Focusing more an cutting corners at the right spots would probably help.
Episode 1 is on my channel if someone wants to check it out 😁
whoa your stuff looks really cool!!
yeah i also love drawing while listening to the yes album "close to the edge"
Phrasing!!!!!
Love it!!!
Has someone with good experience edging I can confirm all those cute little fluffies and staring at their adorable bodies and special features they have really gotten me good drawing experience.
I don't think this is a state to actively strive for, but there are days when I'm really tired and I can feel it in my bones that my drawing hand isn't going to be at its best. When I draw on those days, probably what comes out won't be worth keeping or showing to the world, but I'll probably end up drawing way faster, sketching out my ideas quickly rather than wasting time polishing up a few pixels nobody will see at a glance.
This applies to so many other creative things. As someone who is (trying to) develop games, it's insanely important to place limits to avoid derailing the project into unobtanium.
I remember one day reading a rant from someone (sadly I don't remember who) about the VFX state in Hollywood after first stage of the MCU ended talking about how they were forced to pixel f*ck. Constantly having to overwork themselves to make sure a a couple frames were perfect in its details. Details that no one would see and didn't affect the movie in any way, shape or form. They were forced to do a lot for something useless and invisible. I think this video is rebutting a similar idea we all are have suffered from one day or another. I like it.
every artist should learn how to GOON 💜
And remember to edge, without actually reaching the limit.
Instructions unclear, my yard now has a perfect edge.
Personal anecdote but I feel it highlights something important to keep in mind:
A non limited set of tools can hold some artists back, yes, but to others it can be a blessing. It's a difference between "feeling overwhelmed by the options and things to consider" and "having something available to facilitate any idea you come up with".
It all comes down to an individual's mindset and workflow as to whether they should use more, or fewer, tools.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT⁉️🗣🗣🗣⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️
Edg
I used to edge a lot actually makes sense why i am so good now.
That is a wild thumbnail, respect
I edged to this 15 times
Thanks 😂
quite an interesting new direction that Big Joel is taking with videos but i'm all here for it
Some art gods out there merely using 10 percent of their edging power
Thanks for teaching me how, to edge.,, god. clean, up on isle MY SCREEN!!
My favorite part of the video is when Toby Fox said "It’s edging time" and edged all over the place.
It’s all over my drawing
great video toniko!! turns out ive been following this advice for years!! ive been edging for years now!!
That's my secret, Cap: I'm always edging.
Thank you for such a well timed little tutorial- my partner and I are both artists and he’s often burning himself out with his perfectionist output. Gonna put this video on and see if we can both understand our process a little better and learn how to balance taking it easy and putting in full effort ❤
I guess I was doing something right after all 😏
The worst of it is I've seen twice already this same advice in two different places... and contexts...
We're doomed to edge, constantly 😱
Hi toniko I'm not an artist but I'd like to let you know I've been edging to your content for the past 4 years, thanks!
As someone who's continually grown fond of the montra "less is more," I'm surprised I never thought about handling creating art and other things like this, so I thank you a LOT for making this video! I'm gonna do what I can to apply what's been taught here.
if that's how to become a good artist, then I'm a real pro
Cool reflections on process! I like the focus on limitations and emphasis on a specific process. Like when painting from life, you can chose just a few things to focus on (shape, value, edges, color) and let the others be supporting actors to the point you want to make. Thanks for making this video!
Amazing choice of words!
Edgers rise up
I’ve already mastered this. I barely draw anything
💀
Procrastination will be the new mother of originality.
I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS AFTER WATCHING XMEN 97. THE ANIMATION IS MOSTLY CHOPPY AND LIMITED OUTSIDE OF ACTION SCENES BUT STILL COMMUNICATES THE STORY AND CHARACTER EMOTIONS VERY WELL. I CAN TELL ROTOSCOPING IS INVOLVED BUT JUST PAYING ATTENTION TO THE REUSED ASSETS AND HOW EFFECTIVE IT STILL IS MAKES ME SEE THE ANIME INFLUENCE ON WESTERN ANIMATION AND MAKES ME CONSTANTLY CONSIDER HOW MUCH ASSETS I SHOULD CREATE INSTEAD OF ALWAYS DOING STRAIGHT AHEAD DETAILED PENCIL TESTS THEN INKING AND COLORING AFTERWARDS, I GET BURNED OUT FROM HOW MUCH DETAIL I WANNA AD IN EVERY SCENE. I CANT FINISH MY PROJECTS WITH THAT STYLE.
Thank you, I'm really struggling with that, this is very helpfull to me, and probably, to many others.
Thank you so much❤
sir????
i love edg- i love holding back
needed this, thank you Toniko
The opening is killing me lmaoo
thank you toniko pantoja for teaching me how to edge, ive been gooning everytime i tried to draw anything on my laptop now i can save my load for serious projects 👌😎
My game art teacher mentioned that he would lay it out straight and said that 8 hours of making art every weekday is what is necessary in order to compete in the games industry as an artist. Now no matter how you feel about that statement how would you go about working that long every day (since I do have the time for that as a student)?
Yeah that's accurate enough. I used to do more than that when i was in art school per day 7 days a week. Just figure out how to get yourself to do it. i liked the idea that if my hand wasnt doing anything else and it could be making marks on a page than it should be, so i did. you need to get a lot of mileage and exposure to drawing pretty much everything at least once. so dont be afraid to draw the fire hydrant, light post, traffic lights, stop signs, bus stops, cars, bikes, trees, bushes, flowers, pinecones, etc. Because it all helps.
@@reltcstone2 Thank you for your answer! You seem experienced so I hope I can get to your level one day. I have been drawing everyday now but it’s just difficult to get in a flow where I can draw for a longer time
@@cyberlivion8363 yeah i go in and out of periods of feeling more comfortable drawing for very extended periods. ultimately all of your mileage is still very valid. but yeah any way you can kind of trick yourself to get yourself to draw more weather its "every youtube video i have to draw the person or a thing" or "if im on the bus i have to do a drawing" or "if im in the back of an uber i gotta draw some stuff before arrival", all of that kind of stuff helps add in more time and mileage. it really really helps to have a community of other artists that you can meet up with and sketch together with though.
im edging to this video rn
Actually needed to see this video, I also feel like i'm on the verge of burn out, currently an animation student here in my local college and lately I don't feel excited doing the things that are related to my course, maybe I do need to learn how to edge (please don't take it out of conntext, LEL)
the diver animation is so beautiful wow
This advice is really helpful for me, I always had a similar problem too
I must admit, I loved the Sketchbook bros and Aerobics girls shorts on their own better than the sizzle reels
I had to start doing this because I developed tendonitis from spending too long at a computer/tablet day after day. My art now is a lot more loose and free and I put that 100% into the things that I really want to have the full amount of effort.
I already knew this, but sometimes a reminder is in order...
THE THUMBNAIL.
thank you toniko i will learn to edge