I looked at several camcorders, but ultimately went with a Panasonic FZ2500. Its a video beast. Unlimited recording time. Built in ND filters. Stabilization. 4k @ 60fps. Mic input and headphone out. Lots of video output options. And massive zoom if needed. In short, a bunch of cool features that I wanted. It's my "studio" camera, but it is so much more. I think everybody needs one just to experience the versatility. It's basically a GH4 with a super-zoom lens permanently attached.
2200 for a camcorder?! oh Jesus idk. especially since its mainly a daytime-sunny camera. maybe if its lowlight capabilities were bomb, then I could justify that.. but if you compare it to a sony a7iii, the sony murders it - especially in video quality since the sony records in 6k and downsamples to 4k
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It's the difference between a recording system that requires attention and attendance and a get-the-job-done camcorder. A camcorder such as this is easy for times when you have zero set up time, or for events that need to give you a consistently good image, not necessarily a great image. Sure, put these in the dark, and there's trouble in Paradise. Everything has compromises. Having the ability to hook up to pro audio is part of the appeal as well; even better is using Sony wireless mics that just hook up so damn easily. I've used Sony and Canon camcorders for a while now for both fun and profit and they are robust and produce a good result without faffing about. One more thing, the ergonomics of a camcorder makes handheld use very easy - zoom rockers are so easy to use and you don't notice how good they are until you don't have them. There are many ways to a result. I'm still amazed with the image my little GoPro Hero 6 gives. I'm just happy with how far we've come since the Sony PD150 days.
I am a dad who makes RUclips videos. I've found that I need 2 setups. For shows like shot show I use a dslr for long battery life and a 10mm wide angle lens for all the booth interviews. For SEMA I need a 3 axis gimbal camera....period. So I'm still using my old Canon 70D for shot show and a gopro hero 4 silver in a feiyutech 3 axis gimbal for SEMA. I do want to ditch the dslr though for a camcorder. I'm tempted to buy this sony.
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The NX80 is all I use for basketball highlight videos in 1080p @ 120fps I make. Wish it had BOSS like on my AX33 but, overall it's perfect for my needs.
Now if Sony will ever come out with a successor to the NEX VG-900 that has similar features. That was a GREAT camcorder. It was A full frame interchangeable lens camcorder. It was a low light beast. It was way ahead of its time. Unfortunately for Sony most do not like camcorders.
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Onwe big advantage that you didn't cover. No recording limitation or interruption. As vlogger and RUclipsr we might have forgot since we don't record long lenght clips. But to record a complete show and have a good studio cam... that would be better that a DSLR.
This is so crazy cause I literally pulled out (2 months ago) an older Sony HandyCam HDR-PJ790V and attached a mic (Rode) and thought it was awesome. I get so caught up with the latest tech/gadgets that I completely forgot about the camcorder devices. Don't get me wrong, latest products are phenomenal but HandyCams are still great too. This video reminds us (well at least me) that you can create anything (commercial, movie, news and etc.) using camcorders. Thank you and keep up the great work.
I have a Fuji X-T3 and over a dozen lenses, but I also picked up a used Sony AX100 for Au$1,250 (roughly US$875). It is virtually the same as the NX80 without the handle and with a single SD slot. Just like you said, it is the easiest camera to use. I splashed out for the Sony wireless lav kit and the Multi Function shoe adaptor. This allows for cable free wireless mic usage and you can choose to buy the single channel or the dual channel mic kit. Yes, they are not cheap, but boy do they add value! You can also use them with any other camera too. The only other recommendation other than a good size SDXC card(s) is the largest genuine Sony battery. Camcorders also don't have the pesky 30 mins recording limit, so they are great for recording events, talks and conferences. If you really need XLR then you can buy a chepo dual channel pre-amp, but seriously, why would you? Like you, you can attach a Rode Videomic Pro, or an afore mentioned wireless kit without going down the XLR route. Oh, and if you put a shoe mounted LED video light, you are really rockin'.
That looks much like my Sony FDR AX-100 4K camcorder, that I absolutely LOVE! Mine also shoots great-quality photos, and I'd imagine yours does, too. It has so many advantages over a still camera, including the built-in ND filters. And it will shoot a Paris Hilton video in complete pitch-black darkness.
As a dad myself, I always have problems fitting everyone into the group video. The camera has a 29mm-348.0mm equivalent lens and that’s not enough when I’m shooting in tight spaces. I think it would be great if you could recommend or do a feature on screw-on wide angle converters. I’ve bought one but was sorely disappointed and threw it away. It was 0.7x wide but 2/3 of the image around the center became soft and had the purple fringes. It also made zoom useless because the camera wouldn’t focus at anything other than full wide. I believe thousands of dads around the world need a good quality wide angle lens that they can screw onto their cameras
If it had interchangeable lens and good low light it would be a nice option. When you said the price, I thought how many Canon M50 with a speedbooster I could get instead of this!
For different apertures! As an example, my standard 15-45mm at 22mm is at F4 while my 22mm is at F2! Maybe you don't like different apertures, obviously many are or else there wouldn't be so many different lenses. :)
From a glance in the specs it seem to also have some live streaming features. If you do a lot of live streaming for events this seems to be a big step up from a mobile phone.
I got it last summer, posted some videos on my page from it, and I have to say it's a wonderful tool for the quick get up and go camera! There's also modifications to picture profiles that I've found do a great job in removing noise at higher ISOs, even before any colour grading
How did that go? I have the FDR-AX53 and I'm thinking of upgrading as well, maybe to this or to the AX700. Money is something I need to take into account. But money aside, because of what I do, I also need to take physical dimension into account (the smaller the better) so I'll have to see
I've been using the Sony FRR-AX53 4k Sony Camcorder for my main camera for 2 years. I am constantly asking the same question you did, why don't more people use camcorders?
I think it might be because people aren't professional enough and there have been some stereotypes set by some of the low-end camcorders. I've seen people commenting on a smartphone photo looking better than one from a proper camera and I had to tell them that's because smartphones generally have better screens than cameras 🤦🏻♂️
Add a Dad + a Camcorder WINNING post - Thank you for taking the time to review. It's a bit like doing a review of an RV/ Camper Van - Us Dad's love the idea but the use we would get might raise some questions from the wife! lol. I LOVE the fact that Sony are still developing tech and using it in camcorders plus conventional 'photo' cameras and the NX80 is an entry point for their pro series which at the top end have interchangeable lenses and in between have G lenses. For events and weddings I would love to have one in the bag, but my A7 with a bag of lenses, monitor, lights etc gives me better flexibility - plus the A7 is soooo upgradable for lens range once funds become available etc. BUT I would still like an NX80 as a gadget if I could sneak it into the house :-)
drop tests always puzzle me, they make as much sense as "can you test if I leave it in the oven?" or "what if my horse steps on it?" it's an electronic, not a basketball, LOL
My main video camera is actually a Canon camcorder. I must admit, its a great toy to own, I am glad I have one. I bought a camcorder cause I mainly shoot sports. The results I get are fantastic. For audio, I use the RODE stereo video mic Pro, the two in combination produce very high quality video. For best results, I use a tripod although the Canon has very good image stabilization, especially at full zoom. I have never used my camcorder for vlogging, its just a tad too heavy for that. What I like most about my camcorder is you pretty much just turn it on, and you're ready to go. To be honest, I totally enjoy the freedom of using my tiny action cams. You can capture plenty of useful video with action cams. But when you're going for quality where only a larger camera can do the job, I am always happy I have my Canon camcorder to take with me.
I use from beginning - now the Sony FDR AX100. If image videos or German TV. This camera is an all rounder. I hate DSLRs and I never shot a project with this cameras. And I'm happy 😊 camcorder for ever. :)
I love the idea of a camcorder. The lenses cover so much focal range! If they made a APS-C or full frame sensor camcorder they would sell like crazy, sure you’d lose some reach but everyone wants that shallow depth of field.
I own both the sony a7iii and the ax700, I use the ax700 as a studio camera and the a7iii for photos and low light video which it does crush the ax700 but that's expected coming from a full frame sensor. That being said the ax700 is my go to camera I love it for video and ease of use.
its not expensive, at least not more than a6300 or a6500....pick up any body for a 1000$, and add another 1000$, or maybe more, for a zeiss lens, then another 400-600 for the audio controls, and there you are, you just got a total of almost 3000$, with plus and minus of one system over the other....so, obviously, it s not a matter of price, but different usability...
The Sony FDR-ax100 is a better value. It has most of the features of this camcorder at a cheaper price. If you don’t need the pro audio handle, check out the ax100.
Lol in Saudi Arabia they use more then 5 cameras each one worth more than a250K USD to stream some sheiks talking about islamic stuffs. Religion u know xD
Panasonic fz2500 is good too I bought it two years back it’s still going strong It too has a 1inch sensor fixed lens fully articulating screen built in nd filters stabilisation and can record 4k24 It’s a dope camera and is just lightly taller than the gh series so it’s somewhat compatible with many accessories Quality wise it’s something in between of gh3 and gh4 I think it’s a great beginners camera or just a great b camera because of just how simple it is just plug and play no need of multiples lenses filters and what not
Honestly man, I liked the image quality of the Sony camcorder more than whatever you recorded with indoors. It was a bit less harsh to my eyes. Cooler perhaps. The other thing that *seems* like it could be a benefit is the XLR handle kinda makes it look more “pro”, like if you were out trying to do work as a stringer videographer. Ya know, news camera or documentarian on the scene. Great review!
I can't see noise at all @7:48 for the indoor shot. Perhaps RUclips's algorithms compress out all the noise? The indoor footage looks great so I'm assuming the noise straight out of camera is still really fine and minimal.
Best review of the NX80 I've seen, and I love your style Gary. Thanks for all the hard work putting this together. I recently started shooting our trailer sailing adventures. There is no way I am going to risk my high-end DSLR bodies & glass to shoot in a salt-spray filled environment - unless it was for a commercial job. Camcorders are not perfect but they are fantastic all-rounders - especially for home movies - and I don't understand why they are so out of fashion. I have a Sony FDR-AX53 & it generally works brilliantly for home movies. The lack of manual control is very annoying, (XLR jacks are missed too) hence I am upgrading to either the PXW-Z150 or the PXW-Z90 series to take it to the next level.
Great GREAT review! I use a Sony CX900 now for my RUclips videos and am looking for a 4K upgrade. This NX80 is the exact same form factor as the CX900, but apparently with vastly improved features. I was considering moving over to a DSLR, but all the rigging and contortions that are required for video on still cameras sent me back to the camcorder. I shoot outdoor train videos mostly so I don't have much use for "bokeh" or low-light sensitivity to get Buffy and Biff cutting the cake by candlelight and all that stuff that DSLRs do so well. I want a run-and-gun video machine and this looks like it'll be my choice. Plus, $2300. is a good price for a camera this good. Thanks!
That’s a great camera and my next purchase. For the last five years I have been using its baby sister Sony HXR-MC50U that is excellent for online videos. I have traveled all over the world with that camera and the video quality is "excellent".
I’ve been using camcorders since 1990. I recently started using the M50 as I venture into the world of RUclips. I love the DOF achieved with a DSLR or mirrorless, but camcorders have their place. Especially for long form recording (and try to do a slow crawl zoom with a DSLR). Not everything needs that “cinematic” look, right? Thanks for the great review and content!
Camcorders are definitely the best way to go for video, but for vlogging the AX53 is much better than the NX80 because of the sensational BOSS stabilisation, faster lens, it is lighter, and less than $1,000. You lose the built in ND but a variable ND on the front is actually better than a 3 step ND when it comes to smooth adjusting for radical changes in light such as walking from indoors to outdoors. Camcorders got a bad rap because of those terrible amateur ones dads used to own, but they were very different to the current prosumer camcorders that have really stepped up their game and are very enjoyable to use. I have the AX100 in addition to the AX53, but dream of using the NX80 eventually. As a university student it is not easy saving up, but I am working on it :)
Would love to get one but I got the Panasonic HC-X1. The Sony is not expensive. If you get all the accessories for a Dslr you are there. I love my X1 the only thing is that I want a larger sensor. Have an amazing Sunday, Andreas from Off Grid Sweden 🇸🇪
stig I meant that the maximum iris (f2.8) is only available at the wide end. As you zoom in this falls back to f4.5 as previously mentioned. This is necessary to keep the lens more compact. For it to be able to achieve f2.8 at maximum focal length it would need to be a lot larger. Of course if you set the lens to f5.6 it should stay there throughout the zoom range.
I'm thinking one advantage the camcorder has , and that is it won't have short time limits on recording , and probably will not over heat as many cameras do when doing video.
Really liked the way you did this vid. The camera's nowhere near my budget (just went with the FDR-AX53) but great to see what the more pro cameras have.
I use a Sony AX53 with Rode Videomicro and it's a really nice for outdoors content. Lots of times it can be found on sale for 800ish. For just pure making video content it's really hard to beat. Plus not that heavy and compact. Not sure I would pack a NX80. Looks a bit much for my pack and hard to justify the cost at this time. For me anyways. I did spend the 35 bucks for a B&M digital clear filter to protect the lens and flaps. Wouldn't survive the woods without it. Nice video.
Wow!! That's very similar to my Sony PXW-X70! This NX80 is at the same price point after I paid for 4K upgrade to the X70 when it first came out. Thanks for the great video. Ray 😊👍
There is where I say that I prefer to invest in a video camera than in a photo and video camera or a Panasonic GH5, which I spend more on objectives and so many pods, the camcorder just took it out and recorded it for a long time without changing the battery ... !! :)
Man bro I swear I was thinking of this camera. I use Sony a6000 and with the overheating, extra equipment for sound and a field monitor my setup is REALLY bulky. Can’t wait to get a camcorder
I'm not sure how much longer you will be able to keep saying "I am not a pro". You have produced so many videos on so many different cameras and tech, you ARE becoming a bit of a pro!
@@onechippyboi lol like I said you are welcome to you opinion. I however have too much respect for Gary to have an argument in his comments so I'll end it here. Have a good day!
That’s a true statement that I do receive ad revenue for these videos but I consider a professional videographer someone that gets paid to create work for a client. I just make videos about things that I like. I guess the boxing comparison would be I’m the guy that likes hitting the heavy bag at his house and I let people watch 🤷♂️
@@TheEverydayDad You are humble to say that and I expected nothing less from you. Ignoring folks that like to argue about semantics, I will even say you are creeping up on being a subject matter expert when it comes to the types of cameras used by creators. I already know for a fact some other creators come to you when they have camera questions! I've been doing photography/videography as my sole income for 10 years and I know if I had a question about something I was filming for youtube I wouldn't hesitate to seek out your advice!
The main reason i don't lik camcorders is because of the depth of field. I bought one back when i used to shoot with my T7i, before i upgraded to my EOS R. I like the attachments you can add on, but depth of field pulls in the audience. As well as i shoot primarily low light. So a 1inch sensor hurts. The M50 canon is a 1/4th the price with better low light.
All this new technology- I can't wait. In the market for a new Digital Camera, but I'll wait until April to see all the new toys and then make a decision. Great video by the way.
@8:10 you mentioned about gain sensitivity. May I ask, exactly how much are you talking about? I mean is the gain good at 15db ? Also, may I ask, how long the battery lasts in this camera in a single charge for continuous recording? Thanks in advance.
The image quality is totally different from a mirrorless, it's like it gets an anti-aliasing or something, generally a digital processing! But in the end its for a different purpose! Those cams are epic for live-streaming senarios with multi-cams. The controls and the zoom are coming in handy in such projects where with a mirrorless you would need a power zoom lens , batteries etc and the cost could get 4 times of the sony nx80!
Nice video! If you have time, what Picture Profile do you use and other settings when filming indoors? I haven't been able to nail down the right combo of settings... Thanks in advance.
I believe that ISO on digital cameras is actually gain. It's still called ISO to add continuity from the old film cameras. So NX80 is correct on calling it gain. DSLR probably call it ISO because photographers are used to it. You are not actually changing the light sensitivity of the film/sensor.
great video man!! The ax53 is a 3 years old camera with awesome stabilization at half the price of the AX 700. I´m exited that you check camcorders finally. Greetings from Peru!
so I'm in the process of starting my own LLC for video production and ive been watching you video for reviews and love them.... then i saw the OSU hat..... you now have a new subscriber. if possible is they away to DM you to talk about your opinion on the NX80 vs the PXW-z90? Also is there a newer and better camera then those two?
Nice review enjoyed it thanks! Everyone has different needs for me I use the AX-700 basically the same camera as the NX80 and a high end DSLR at the same time. I shoot video and still shots at basically the same time so I can dedicate each camera to a single use works best for me. On noise in low light if that happens there are a couple of great post production filters that remove all of the noise and keep the quality so any noise has never been a problem. Have shot a lot of outdoor night video with the AX-700 and it looks fantastic. Also you did not cover the Sony color profiles that allow you to customize your color this works great. Have had the camera for a year and it has been perfect.
0:45 I felt like that when I bought a Canon Vixia HF R800 Camcorder. Also, you might want to consider reviewing it, it's a great value for the price! Love your videos!
Did you add sharpening in post? Some of your sample clips look oversharp on my TV. I was looking at this but went with the Canon XF 400 for the 4k 60 fps. A camcorder is really nice for this stuff. Really love having one again.
If you want the 800 dollar little brother, try the FDR-AX53. It has 30p 4k but lacks some of the built in nd filters (still has the thread so you can add your own) and xlr mounts (but this is one of the few times I genuinely believe you'll be fine with the built-in mic if you're just vlogging. Everything else is pretty fantastic and at the same price point as a lower level DSLR plus mic and a few good lenses
We don't like handycams because they have(or had) much less options compared to stillcameras, and they are much more expensive. I.e. I have an old mirrorles from 2013 that can film in 1080p 60p, my Sony HDR-CX115 from around the same era can only do 1080 50i(and only, as I live in PAL region. I should have an option to choose NTSC over PAL with PAL as a default), and I don't even have an option to reduce it to 25p (or it's really difficult to figure it out). My mirrorles can do both 50p and 60p, my camera can only do 50i which is annoyance). It has a nice slow mo of 240fps, but only for 3 sec. My mirrorles has 1080 60p which I can easily slow down to 25 or 24, or can even do 120fps(or so) in 640x480 for much longer. Also my old Fujifilm Finepix HS10 can do 1000fps (very low resolution). Unfortunatelly the Fuji has no control over movie settings, and still it's 1/2.3 inch sensor is much bigger. BTW, I'm refering to: Samsung NX300M, Fujifilm FinePix HS10, and Sony HDR-CX115e, but even newer cameras still have interlaced videos and lover than 2Mpx sensor size upscaled to FullHD, and the information about it is hard to find.
I love when you say: audio is the most important part of video production.
Surprisingly, it is!
Bought a FS700 many years ago and have loved it. Minimal grain increase at high ISO's.
I looked at several camcorders, but ultimately went with a Panasonic FZ2500. Its a video beast. Unlimited recording time. Built in ND filters. Stabilization. 4k @ 60fps. Mic input and headphone out. Lots of video output options. And massive zoom if needed. In short, a bunch of cool features that I wanted. It's my "studio" camera, but it is so much more. I think everybody needs one just to experience the versatility. It's basically a GH4 with a super-zoom lens permanently attached.
HTodd Griffin interested!! As I shoot on a GH4 and G7.... I’ll need to check it out!
It doesn’t have 4k60. But I do love mine
I'm a dad and I got excited watching this video .. weird..
Ha! It’s something about camcorders right? 🤣
2200 for a camcorder?! oh Jesus idk. especially since its mainly a daytime-sunny camera. maybe if its lowlight capabilities were bomb, then I could justify that.. but if you compare it to a sony a7iii, the sony murders it - especially in video quality since the sony records in 6k and downsamples to 4k
That’s what we’re going to do on Wednesday! 😁👍
The Everyday Dad oh hell yeah! You read my mind! Glad I’m a subscriber of this channel!
Also another reason why you’ll be in my video of top camera reviewers 💪🏼👍🏼
Ha! Well thanks so much! 😁👍
Mark's Tech yeah man, that SONY is so much better than the SONY lol
It's the difference between a recording system that requires attention and attendance and a get-the-job-done camcorder. A camcorder such as this is easy for times when you have zero set up time, or for events that need to give you a consistently good image, not necessarily a great image. Sure, put these in the dark, and there's trouble in Paradise. Everything has compromises. Having the ability to hook up to pro audio is part of the appeal as well; even better is using Sony wireless mics that just hook up so damn easily. I've used Sony and Canon camcorders for a while now for both fun and profit and they are robust and produce a good result without faffing about. One more thing, the ergonomics of a camcorder makes handheld use very easy - zoom rockers are so easy to use and you don't notice how good they are until you don't have them.
There are many ways to a result. I'm still amazed with the image my little GoPro Hero 6 gives. I'm just happy with how far we've come since the Sony PD150 days.
I am a dad who makes RUclips videos. I've found that I need 2 setups. For shows like shot show I use a dslr for long battery life and a 10mm wide angle lens for all the booth interviews.
For SEMA I need a 3 axis gimbal camera....period.
So I'm still using my old Canon 70D for shot show and a gopro hero 4 silver in a feiyutech 3 axis gimbal for SEMA.
I do want to ditch the dslr though for a camcorder. I'm tempted to buy this sony.
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The NX80 is all I use for basketball highlight videos in 1080p @ 120fps I make. Wish it had BOSS like on my AX33 but, overall it's perfect for my needs.
Insaneness Media Basketball is where it’s at. I’m debating nx80 or xf400
Bought this a few months ago to replace the only EX1. Works like a charm
Yeah it’s actually a pretty darn nice piece of kit 👍
Now if Sony will ever come out with a successor to the NEX VG-900 that has similar features. That was a GREAT camcorder. It was A full frame interchangeable lens camcorder. It was a low light beast. It was way ahead of its time. Unfortunately for Sony most do not like camcorders.
Onwe big advantage that you didn't cover. No recording limitation or interruption. As vlogger and RUclipsr we might have forgot since we don't record long lenght clips. But to record a complete show and have a good studio cam... that would be better that a DSLR.
This is so crazy cause I literally pulled out (2 months ago) an older Sony HandyCam HDR-PJ790V and attached a mic (Rode) and thought it was awesome. I get so caught up with the latest tech/gadgets that I completely forgot about the camcorder devices. Don't get me wrong, latest products are phenomenal but HandyCams are still great too. This video reminds us (well at least me) that you can create anything (commercial, movie, news and etc.) using camcorders. Thank you and keep up the great work.
I have a Fuji X-T3 and over a dozen lenses, but I also picked up a used Sony AX100 for Au$1,250 (roughly US$875). It is virtually the same as the NX80 without the handle and with a single SD slot. Just like you said, it is the easiest camera to use.
I splashed out for the Sony wireless lav kit and the Multi Function shoe adaptor. This allows for cable free wireless mic usage and you can choose to buy the single channel or the dual channel mic kit. Yes, they are not cheap, but boy do they add value! You can also use them with any other camera too.
The only other recommendation other than a good size SDXC card(s) is the largest genuine Sony battery.
Camcorders also don't have the pesky 30 mins recording limit, so they are great for recording events, talks and conferences. If you really need XLR then you can buy a chepo dual channel pre-amp, but seriously, why would you? Like you, you can attach a Rode Videomic Pro, or an afore mentioned wireless kit without going down the XLR route.
Oh, and if you put a shoe mounted LED video light, you are really rockin'.
That looks much like my Sony FDR AX-100 4K camcorder, that I absolutely LOVE! Mine also shoots great-quality photos, and I'd imagine yours does, too. It has so many advantages over a still camera, including the built-in ND filters. And it will shoot a Paris Hilton video in complete pitch-black darkness.
I like the image quality of the cam u filming the review with
As a dad myself, I always have problems fitting everyone into the group video. The camera has a 29mm-348.0mm equivalent lens and that’s not enough when I’m shooting in tight spaces. I think it would be great if you could recommend or do a feature on screw-on wide angle converters. I’ve bought one but was sorely disappointed and threw it away. It was 0.7x wide but 2/3 of the image around the center became soft and had the purple fringes. It also made zoom useless because the camera wouldn’t focus at anything other than full wide. I believe thousands of dads around the world need a good quality wide angle lens that they can screw onto their cameras
I wish full frame sensor camcorders were out by now for a reasonable price. Can't believe you just threw away a camera tho lol
If it had interchangeable lens and good low light it would be a nice option. When you said the price, I thought how many Canon M50 with a speedbooster I could get instead of this!
Sony and Nikon should get together to open the Nikon 1 mount.
Why do you need good low light and interchangeable lenses? So many don’t , but think they do.
For different apertures! As an example, my standard 15-45mm at 22mm is at F4 while my 22mm is at F2! Maybe you don't like different apertures, obviously many are or else there wouldn't be so many different lenses. :)
That will never happen. I loved it too.
@@JohnnyYork me? Documentary footage. The average indorr space has fairly low light once the sun goes down.
I got the PXW-Z90 and I must say this is the best Boradcast-style Camcorder you can own!
Until I saw the shadow of the fence in the background I thought the camera had some weird fluttering on your face. ;)
1dir I was thinking the same thing!
Me too. Handy hint. Don't walk in the shadow of a chain-link fence, it makes for a bad video.
Lol 8^D
From a glance in the specs it seem to also have some live streaming features. If you do a lot of live streaming for events this seems to be a big step up from a mobile phone.
I got it last summer, posted some videos on my page from it, and I have to say it's a wonderful tool for the quick get up and go camera! There's also modifications to picture profiles that I've found do a great job in removing noise at higher ISOs, even before any colour grading
I'm seriously considering this to upgrade over my FDR-AX53.
Thanks for the great review!
Absolutely! 👍
check sony ax 700 :)
How did that go? I have the FDR-AX53 and I'm thinking of upgrading as well, maybe to this or to the AX700. Money is something I need to take into account. But money aside, because of what I do, I also need to take physical dimension into account (the smaller the better) so I'll have to see
@KohMotion The Sensor size is not the be all and end all... most broadcast cameras only have 2/3 inch sensors.
I've been using the Sony FRR-AX53 4k Sony Camcorder for my main camera for 2 years. I am constantly asking the same question you did, why don't more people use camcorders?
I think it might be because people aren't professional enough and there have been some stereotypes set by some of the low-end camcorders. I've seen people commenting on a smartphone photo looking better than one from a proper camera and I had to tell them that's because smartphones generally have better screens than cameras 🤦🏻♂️
Add a Dad + a Camcorder WINNING post - Thank you for taking the time to review. It's a bit like doing a review of an RV/ Camper Van - Us Dad's love the idea but the use we would get might raise some questions from the wife! lol. I LOVE the fact that Sony are still developing tech and using it in camcorders plus conventional 'photo' cameras and the NX80 is an entry point for their pro series which at the top end have interchangeable lenses and in between have G lenses. For events and weddings I would love to have one in the bag, but my A7 with a bag of lenses, monitor, lights etc gives me better flexibility - plus the A7 is soooo upgradable for lens range once funds become available etc. BUT I would still like an NX80 as a gadget if I could sneak it into the house :-)
Ha! Trust me I get it, I have to sneak some of this gear in myself 🤣
This looks like it would be perfect for improving the video quality on my channel. Thanks for this review!
I've been in the business for 25 years and it always shocked me that people would use DSLRs for video.
Ummm...drop test? Those guys at B&H are pretty cool - they won't mind...commence the crucible!
I’m sure they are cool with it 🤣🤣
drop tests always puzzle me, they make as much sense as "can you test if I leave it in the oven?" or "what if my horse steps on it?" it's an electronic, not a basketball, LOL
My main video camera is actually a Canon camcorder.
I must admit, its a great toy to own, I am glad I have one.
I bought a camcorder cause I mainly shoot sports.
The results I get are fantastic.
For audio, I use the RODE stereo video mic Pro, the two in combination produce very high quality video.
For best results, I use a tripod although the Canon has very good image stabilization, especially at full zoom.
I have never used my camcorder for vlogging, its just a tad too heavy for that.
What I like most about my camcorder is you pretty much just turn it on, and you're ready to go.
To be honest, I totally enjoy the freedom of using my tiny action cams. You can capture plenty of useful video with action cams.
But when you're going for quality where only a larger camera can do the job, I am always happy I have my Canon camcorder to take with me.
I've used the Sony X70 (the previous gen camcorder) a bunch for work. It's an awesome workhorse camera.
I use from beginning - now the Sony FDR AX100. If image videos or German TV. This camera is an all rounder.
I hate DSLRs and I never shot a project with this cameras. And I'm happy 😊 camcorder for ever. :)
I love the idea of a camcorder. The lenses cover so much focal range! If they made a APS-C or full frame sensor camcorder they would sell like crazy, sure you’d lose some reach but everyone wants that shallow depth of field.
They had one. Look up the Sony NEX VG900 or the 30
I've had the NX30 for a long time. Awesome piece of kit when it came out
No 4K60. No 10bit HLG. No HEVC. Screen is resistive.. where's the AX900/NX90 to fix all that?
RUclips is not dominated by DSLR and the thing you are holding at the beginning is not a DSLR, but mirrorless. But except for that, good video!
I own both the sony a7iii and the ax700, I use the ax700 as a studio camera and the a7iii for photos and low light video which it does crush the ax700 but that's expected coming from a full frame sensor. That being said the ax700 is my go to camera I love it for video and ease of use.
Nice! I will say I did enjoy my time with the nx80, it’s great. I’m just spoiled anymore 🤣
@@TheEverydayDad I hear ya, but to be honest in your work flow, I think it could serve you well.
2500€ in my country
No thanks
I know right. Lol NX80. No fkn way
Buy 5 sony a6300 instead
Barkın Gökmen exactly
its not expensive, at least not more than a6300 or a6500....pick up any body for a 1000$, and add another 1000$, or maybe more, for a zeiss lens, then another 400-600 for the audio controls, and there you are, you just got a total of almost 3000$, with plus and minus of one system over the other....so, obviously, it s not a matter of price, but different usability...
@@Sorennn94 just be content with your phone man
The Sony FDR-ax100 is a better value. It has most of the features of this camcorder at a cheaper price. If you don’t need the pro audio handle, check out the ax100.
shame it doesnt record 4k60p
do you really need it though
@@HistoryandReviews such an nice and objective reply
I apologies for that, he’s been banned.
Any highend 4k camcorder ofcourse needs 60fps...
Santosi The Sony does nice 1080 120 tho
I use a Sony FDR AX100 that I bought in 2016.Great camcorder with a lot of the same specs as the NX80 for around $1000 less.
55stangdude Auto focus the difference from what I can gather
My church uses two of those for their live streams!!
Lol in Saudi Arabia they use more then 5 cameras each one worth more than a250K USD to stream some sheiks talking about islamic stuffs.
Religion u know xD
so is good in low light?
Panasonic fz2500 is good too
I bought it two years back it’s still going strong
It too has a 1inch sensor fixed lens fully articulating screen built in nd filters stabilisation and can record 4k24
It’s a dope camera and is just lightly taller than the gh series so it’s somewhat compatible with many accessories
Quality wise it’s something in between of gh3 and gh4
I think it’s a great beginners camera or just a great b camera because of just how simple it is just plug and play no need of multiples lenses filters and what not
My toddler son was disappointed that he can’t shout his piiiiillar of action when i watched this video. Haha!
Honestly man, I liked the image quality of the Sony camcorder more than whatever you recorded with indoors. It was a bit less harsh to my eyes. Cooler perhaps. The other thing that *seems* like it could be a benefit is the XLR handle kinda makes it look more “pro”, like if you were out trying to do work as a stringer videographer. Ya know, news camera or documentarian on the scene. Great review!
I can't see noise at all @7:48 for the indoor shot. Perhaps RUclips's algorithms compress out all the noise? The indoor footage looks great so I'm assuming the noise straight out of camera is still really fine and minimal.
Best review of the NX80 I've seen, and I love your style Gary. Thanks for all the hard work putting this together. I recently started shooting our trailer sailing adventures. There is no way I am going to risk my high-end DSLR bodies & glass to shoot in a salt-spray filled environment - unless it was for a commercial job. Camcorders are not perfect but they are fantastic all-rounders - especially for home movies - and I don't understand why they are so out of fashion. I have a Sony FDR-AX53 & it generally works brilliantly for home movies. The lack of manual control is very annoying, (XLR jacks are missed too) hence I am upgrading to either the PXW-Z150 or the PXW-Z90 series to take it to the next level.
Great GREAT review! I use a Sony CX900 now for my RUclips videos and am looking for a 4K upgrade. This NX80 is the exact same form factor as the CX900, but apparently with vastly improved features. I was considering moving over to a DSLR, but all the rigging and contortions that are required for video on still cameras sent me back to the camcorder. I shoot outdoor train videos mostly so I don't have much use for "bokeh" or low-light sensitivity to get Buffy and Biff cutting the cake by candlelight and all that stuff that DSLRs do so well. I want a run-and-gun video machine and this looks like it'll be my choice. Plus, $2300. is a good price for a camera this good. Thanks!
Distant Signal I use the cx900 also, along with a6300 and rx10 iii.
That’s a great camera and my next purchase. For the last five years I have been using its baby sister Sony HXR-MC50U that is excellent for online videos. I have traveled all over the world with that camera and the video quality is "excellent".
I’ve been using camcorders since 1990. I recently started using the M50 as I venture into the world of RUclips. I love the DOF achieved with a DSLR or mirrorless, but camcorders have their place. Especially for long form recording (and try to do a slow crawl zoom with a DSLR). Not everything needs that “cinematic” look, right? Thanks for the great review and content!
Camcorders are definitely the best way to go for video, but for vlogging the AX53 is much better than the NX80 because of the sensational BOSS stabilisation, faster lens, it is lighter, and less than $1,000. You lose the built in ND but a variable ND on the front is actually better than a 3 step ND when it comes to smooth adjusting for radical changes in light such as walking from indoors to outdoors. Camcorders got a bad rap because of those terrible amateur ones dads used to own, but they were very different to the current prosumer camcorders that have really stepped up their game and are very enjoyable to use. I have the AX100 in addition to the AX53, but dream of using the NX80 eventually. As a university student it is not easy saving up, but I am working on it :)
Would love to get one but I got the Panasonic HC-X1. The Sony is not expensive. If you get all the accessories for a Dslr you are there. I love my X1 the only thing is that I want a larger sensor. Have an amazing Sunday, Andreas from Off Grid Sweden 🇸🇪
What an awesome piece of gear! I’m wondering if the aperture is constant? That would be a HUGE selling point.
It's not constant. It's f/2.8 - f/4.5 and that's equivalent to f/7.5 - f/12 in Full Frame.
It’s not unfortunately, I also wish it was a little wider open at the zoomed out end of the lens.
Constant aperture=huge selling point=huge lens!
You can set the aperture fixed, see iris
stig I meant that the maximum iris (f2.8) is only available at the wide end. As you zoom in this falls back to f4.5 as previously mentioned. This is necessary to keep the lens more compact. For it to be able to achieve f2.8 at maximum focal length it would need to be a lot larger. Of course if you set the lens to f5.6 it should stay there throughout the zoom range.
About noise in low light, if you tweak the Picture Profiles you can get a very good low noise image, even on a 21dB gain.
Cant' someone make a camera that does 120 fps, AND does great low light??
apparently not. Nearly all camcorders suck it seems. I'll have to wait a few years for something worth buying
i already love that camera if i had it id wanna make a movie
I'm thinking one advantage the camcorder has , and that is it won't have short time limits on recording , and probably will not over heat as many cameras do when doing video.
Excellent review. I have subscribed.
Really liked the way you did this vid. The camera's nowhere near my budget (just went with the FDR-AX53) but great to see what the more pro cameras have.
“Oh, the sun’s in the way” 😂😂
I use a Sony AX53 with Rode Videomicro and it's a really nice for outdoors content. Lots of times it can be found on sale for 800ish. For just pure making video content it's really hard to beat. Plus not that heavy and compact. Not sure I would pack a NX80. Looks a bit much for my pack and hard to justify the cost at this time. For me anyways. I did spend the 35 bucks for a B&M digital clear filter to protect the lens and flaps. Wouldn't survive the woods without it. Nice video.
Would love that to film skating/ snowboarding with a nice wide fish eye
Wow!! That's very similar to my Sony PXW-X70! This NX80 is at the same price point after I paid for 4K upgrade to the X70 when it first came out. Thanks for the great video. Ray 😊👍
Any suggestion about this one Sony - HDRCX405 ? Or Which one is best in this current market?
No Sdi output though. You need Sdi for easier connection to broadcast equipment. I don't like using multiple converters
Then use the sony Z90... which is this but with SDI
There is where I say that I prefer to invest in a video camera than in a photo and video camera or a Panasonic GH5, which I spend more on objectives and so many pods, the camcorder just took it out and recorded it for a long time without changing the battery ... !! :)
Man bro I swear I was thinking of this camera. I use Sony a6000 and with the overheating, extra equipment for sound and a field monitor my setup is REALLY bulky. Can’t wait to get a camcorder
you are a beast at putting out content!
I'm not sure how much longer you will be able to keep saying "I am not a pro". You have produced so many videos on so many different cameras and tech, you ARE becoming a bit of a pro!
Bertram Photography That’s what I keep telling him! LoL
@@onechippyboi That is a bit pedantic view of what a professional is.
@@onechippyboi lol like I said you are welcome to you opinion. I however have too much respect for Gary to have an argument in his comments so I'll end it here. Have a good day!
That’s a true statement that I do receive ad revenue for these videos but I consider a professional videographer someone that gets paid to create work for a client.
I just make videos about things that I like. I guess the boxing comparison would be I’m the guy that likes hitting the heavy bag at his house and I let people watch 🤷♂️
@@TheEverydayDad You are humble to say that and I expected nothing less from you. Ignoring folks that like to argue about semantics, I will even say you are creeping up on being a subject matter expert when it comes to the types of cameras used by creators. I already know for a fact some other creators come to you when they have camera questions! I've been doing photography/videography as my sole income for 10 years and I know if I had a question about something I was filming for youtube I wouldn't hesitate to seek out your advice!
Thanks for the eye-catching review on this awesome Camera.
Great video, ihave the big brother camcorder 🎥, the Z90 and i am very satisfied with the footage 😊 best regards from germany 🇩🇪
The main reason i don't lik camcorders is because of the depth of field. I bought one back when i used to shoot with my T7i, before i upgraded to my EOS R. I like the attachments you can add on, but depth of field pulls in the audience. As well as i shoot primarily low light. So a 1inch sensor hurts. The M50 canon is a 1/4th the price with better low light.
All this new technology- I can't wait. In the market for a new Digital Camera, but I'll wait until April to see all the new toys and then make a decision. Great video by the way.
Throwback time. Also very expensive for us retired pensioner. But a fun video as always!
@8:10 you mentioned about gain sensitivity. May I ask, exactly how much are you talking about? I mean is the gain good at 15db ?
Also, may I ask, how long the battery lasts in this camera in a single charge for continuous recording?
Thanks in advance.
The image quality is totally different from a mirrorless, it's like it gets an anti-aliasing or something, generally a digital processing!
But in the end its for a different purpose! Those cams are epic for live-streaming senarios with multi-cams. The controls and the zoom are coming in handy in such projects where with a mirrorless you would need a power zoom lens , batteries etc and the cost could get 4 times of the sony nx80!
And it doesn't limit video recording to a certain time.
Nice video! If you have time, what Picture Profile do you use and other settings when filming indoors? I haven't been able to nail down the right combo of settings... Thanks in advance.
I believe that ISO on digital cameras is actually gain. It's still called ISO to add continuity from the old film cameras. So NX80 is correct on calling it gain. DSLR probably call it ISO because photographers are used to it. You are not actually changing the light sensitivity of the film/sensor.
great video man!! The ax53 is a 3 years old camera with awesome stabilization at half the price of the AX 700. I´m exited that you check camcorders finally. Greetings from Peru!
Your shadows outdoor looks a 4th dimensional alien from planet D37655
Having known the price at first, I wouldn’t have watch 😜 great job !
Have it’s younger brother, the Sony AX100! Still does the job though!!
Which will give more good clearity and quality comparing with nx 200 n Z150 Sir...
so I'm in the process of starting my own LLC for video production and ive been watching you video for reviews and love them.... then i saw the OSU hat..... you now have a new subscriber. if possible is they away to DM you to talk about your opinion on the NX80 vs the PXW-z90? Also is there a newer and better camera then those two?
Nice review enjoyed it thanks! Everyone has different needs for me I use the AX-700 basically the same camera as the NX80 and a high end DSLR at the same time. I shoot video and still shots at basically the same time so I can dedicate each camera to a single use works best for me. On noise in low light if that happens there are a couple of great post production filters that remove all of the noise and keep the quality so any noise has never been a problem. Have shot a lot of outdoor night video with the AX-700 and it looks fantastic. Also you did not cover the Sony color profiles that allow you to customize your color this works great. Have had the camera for a year and it has been perfect.
0:45 I felt like that when I bought a Canon Vixia HF R800 Camcorder. Also, you might want to consider reviewing it, it's a great value for the price! Love your videos!
Nice! I might have to check it out, thanks for the tip 😁👍
The shadow of the fence is throwing me off
Santa brought me the Sony FDR-AX53 camcorder and I absolutely love it! Does this have BOSS?
1 yr later how do you like your ax53?
great video. i bought the new sony mc88 (the HD only version of the NX80) and am using it for feature filmmaking - amazing camcorder.
Millennial discovering the warm water.
Did you add sharpening in post? Some of your sample clips look oversharp on my TV. I was looking at this but went with the Canon XF 400 for the 4k 60 fps. A camcorder is really nice for this stuff. Really love having one again.
Nope I kept it in auto and didnt do any post processing.
@@TheEverydayDad Interesting. Must be out TV. It's old. All my videos look oversharpened if I add any at all in post.
Sooooo if the NX 80 doesn’t do 4 channel audio recording to allow the on board stereo mic plus the two XLR mic inputs then it CANNOT do everything.
that kind of camera every family in japan seems to own
Nice sunrise films
Sony HXR-NX80 or Canon XA50 ? Which one is the best?
If you want the 800 dollar little brother, try the FDR-AX53. It has 30p 4k but lacks some of the built in nd filters (still has the thread so you can add your own) and xlr mounts (but this is one of the few times I genuinely believe you'll be fine with the built-in mic if you're just vlogging. Everything else is pretty fantastic and at the same price point as a lower level DSLR plus mic and a few good lenses
So if I wanted to make a movie which one is better? DSLR or Camcorder?
I will highly recommend you this camera but will record this video with DSLR lol =))
got such a 4K camera of this series,working with handy cams for 25 years, never understood this fancy for fotocamera's….
We don't like handycams because they have(or had) much less options compared to stillcameras, and they are much more expensive. I.e. I have an old mirrorles from 2013 that can film in 1080p 60p, my Sony HDR-CX115 from around the same era can only do 1080 50i(and only, as I live in PAL region. I should have an option to choose NTSC over PAL with PAL as a default), and I don't even have an option to reduce it to 25p (or it's really difficult to figure it out). My mirrorles can do both 50p and 60p, my camera can only do 50i which is annoyance). It has a nice slow mo of 240fps, but only for 3 sec. My mirrorles has 1080 60p which I can easily slow down to 25 or 24, or can even do 120fps(or so) in 640x480 for much longer. Also my old Fujifilm Finepix HS10 can do 1000fps (very low resolution). Unfortunatelly the Fuji has no control over movie settings, and still it's 1/2.3 inch sensor is much bigger.
BTW, I'm refering to:
Samsung NX300M, Fujifilm FinePix HS10, and Sony HDR-CX115e, but even newer cameras still have interlaced videos and lover than 2Mpx sensor size upscaled to FullHD, and the information about it is hard to find.
This is not a fair comparison. A pro Sumer camcorder is not The same as a DSLR in terms of form and function.