Hope you enjoy the new series. Here is a quick reference for the questions which were answered in this episode. Enjoy! 1:30 - Cade Boggess - What is usually the priority when it comes to placements? Is there an order of importance when it comes to rarity, production, and flexibility? 4:06 - Shiva Kumar Shicashankar - In competitive catan environment with people conversing live or via voice chat, would you agree that dev card/army game is better than a road game since it is somewhat easier for the to team up and conspire against you to break your road, reduce your max road length, or give someone else the longest road? 5:30 - Shiva - Dandy - thank you for giving us awesome and consistent catan content. Looks like you are inspiring Dylighted to post more too. If yoi are placing first, what are the situations that you will not take a 569 (assuming it gives you at least two distinct resources)? 7:30 - Christopher Cuomo - Do you play any of the other expansions (seafarers, cities and knights, etc)? If so, which one is your favorite and why? Do you believe the base game is the best and most strategic version, or do you prefer one of the expansions? 9:40 - Shiva - Can you do a video on hand tracking tips? How to get better at it step by step? 11:53 - Julian Taffa - How does your strategy change if you know you're playing against much weaker players? I often find they are much harder to predict placements for, and much less willing to trade in general 14:08 - Ipwnwithmatrix - I'd love to see some sort of mini guide on 1v1 placements, I'm stuck in diamond and think my placement strategy is a big factor in my losses 15:47 - Eric Schill - It seems like there are four main strategies in catan: balanced setup, relying heavily on ports, road building/ expansion, OWS (obvious a mix of four is common. Which strategy have you found to be most reliable and consistent? Which one is the most underrated? Of course, every board is different, just wanted to hear your thoughts. Love the videos. 17:31 - Eric Schill - What percentage of the game is strategy vs luck? My friends always say I get lucky but I think they are just jealous of my success in catan lol 18:56 - Kyle Hsu - Thanks Drew, I think your mental positivity in the game is what "drew" me to your channel :) did you always have that mindset even when you started? 20:41 - Zakolache - How does the desert spot in a game change your thought process, especially during the initial placements? ie. center vs edge vs 2nd ring desert 22:32 - Goz Z - How do you evaluate players threat levels as there are strong late game and early game positions plus there's also player flexibility from ports to consider. Would just like to hear some examples of who do you think is stronger on a board even when there's a point gap 25:06 - baller34725 - What's the best strategy to win games when other players are making mistakes that are out of your control? Like trading others too loosely or tunneling on you with blocks/robs and allowing another player to get ahead
I really liked this! Extra chill vibes with the soft background music made it feel a little special / different from your normal format, too. Loved the discussion on positivity; being able to take a suboptimal situation that is out of your control in stride is just good life advice in general!
I don’t comment on this app very often, but I just want to let you know dandy that this quote “When you have that mindset that nothing can break you, and you can just always look at everything as an opportunity to get better and to be the best that you can. Man, nothing will slow you down. Nothing will stop you.” at the end of this is actually incredibly inspirational. I absolutely love you and your content. Keep up the incredible work!
Dude. This is such a good channel and the quality of content is insane. You seem like such a great person. Question: How come when Dylan gets an early VP he’s frustrated, but when you get an early VP you say “That’s so good!”
Haha, it depends on what game you're going for. If you are shooting for longest road long term, it's good because it's hard to earn the last 3 points as a longest road player. You often get 5 settles + longest road for 7 but getting the last 3 points requires you to city twice. So pulling a VP is very good because now you don't have to build two cities which is often difficult if you have little or no ore. For OWS players it's much worse to get an early VP, because you really need knights to defend your hexes and secure largest army. Dylon plays OWS all the time whereas Drew goes for more creative set ups so it's more often Dylan gets a useless VP.
@@dandydrew If green had taken road, what do you think your win condition was in that game? I assume you race the bot to the remaining ore spot and build to 10, right? You had the road-road-settle to that spot even without playing the Monopoly.
Awesome format. Thank you for answering all my questions. I think you should 1) make this format once a month 2) do a livestream where you answer questions as you play. It may open up super chats as a revenue stream for you 😊
That would be amazing… Any support from the community is welcomed and will go back into the channel to improve the production! Happy to answer those questions! -DD
Hey Drew - can you explain your thought process around coordinated hexes, sometimes it's mentioned as a positive, sometimes I get the sense that you live and die by the rolls a lot more. Cheers for the content :)
Hi DandyDrew :) i would really like to see you play in some cities and knights matches. I have played the expansion a long time ago irl and would love to see how you approach this gamemode with its different strategies, unique resources etc :) Really enjoy your great content!
great content. looking forward to the DAD videos in the future. green folded, waited a bit too long to take road imo. didn't count dev's as a point like you mentioned lol
I've always wondered why the names of the resources were chosen, because officially it is ore grain wool lumber and brick, but the community says ore wheat sheep wood brick
think it is because of ease. "grain" and "lumber" are both words used generally less often than "wheat" and "wood". this is also why some people call "ore" -> "rock". which still is a bit of a divide to this day. probably the determining factor for most people was that ore makes more sense, since obtaining rocks from mountains being a precious resource is weird. also, single syllable words are just easier to say in table talk.
at around the 11:00 mark you bought a dev card, I think I would have traded the wheat for a brick to try and get to the sheep port quicker. Any thoughts on why one is better than the other?
It’s possible… I tried quite a few trades early on and they didn’t want to budge. Also, I was trying to focus on answering the questions coherently while playing. I can’t claim to be 100% focused in the game 😅
I think its hard to argue catan is 80% skill if the top pros are pushing 50% win rate. Like in my eyes if it really was 80%, you would be near an 80% win rate. Tough to say tho, skill is what gives you the most chance to win tho for sure.
You have to assess catan’s skill and luck from the perspective of the long-term. In a given game, the dice variance can certainly imbalance in unfavorable ways. The aspect of skill comes in when you look at the many games over time and how good decision-making stacks. I feel incredibly confident I can take any account into the top 10 within 100 games - I have ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY on this. Why? Because I know my skill in the long-run will pay off. If you can take any account into the top 10 consistently, then the game MUST be skill-driven by a large margin. Otherwise, the race for the top of the board would be a lot more unpredictable and inconsistent. The real challenge for a player is to know when you were lucky (or unlucky) and/or when you are playing skillfully. If you can learn to distinguish those aspects, then you will be able to critically evaluate your game and work on your weaknesses to improve.
@@dandydrew I agree you can do that but I disagree with the assessment to some extent. Chess is one game almost everyone agrees is 100% skill. You either win or lose base off of your decisions. If an chess grandmaster player plays someone who is expert level. The grandmaster will win 99% of the time. If an extreme pro player in Catan like you played against 3 experts but not pros, maybe 40% win rate. Sure you would win a lot in the long-term. But it would be still really solid if you had a 50% win rate. But you could be leagues better than the rest of the table but still lose half the time. All we do as experienced Catan players is make the plays that generate us the most EV in terms of wins. Yes overtime the best players will end up top, you see this in poker as well. If you play 1000's of hands in heads-up poker one player will end up on top. Catan is 100% skill in the fact that if you make bad decisions you will lose. And if you make good ones, and your opponents make good ones, you can get up to a 50% win rate. To me, a game where 50% of the time winning does not correlate with a game that's 80% skill. The game is 100% skill based on who reaches the top, that goes for any game (with decisions that can be made) ever. When assessing a chance to a particular game, it will always be determined by, the board, your opponents, and dice rolls. All of these factors will impact the chance you win. I guess if you really want to say it like the way you are putting it, Catan is a 100% skill game because every decision you make either increases or decreases your chance of winning. Like what does your 20% luck chance really mean at the heart?
@@brycepowell6639 have you factored in the fact that you’re comparing a game where you only play against one opponent with a game where you’re playing against three opponents at once. Obviously your win rate will be much lower when 4 people can win instead of only 2. 80% skill equalling a win rate in the 40s% feels about right
This question is too serious for an AMA post, so I'll just ask it here: You've been a firefighter, policeman, astronaut, you name it... is professional catan player your newest addition to that list, Mr Sins?
80% skill and 20% luck doesn't sound very accurate to me. it's definetely more luck than that. Not much in dice but mostly in the devs you draw. had you drawn 3 knights instead of 2 vps and the mono this game for example, you would have not won. It is in fact well known that 3 vps will most often result in a win. I don't have statistical data on this but I will keep tracking of my own games to see if I can confirm it.
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Hope you enjoy the new series. Here is a quick reference for the questions which were answered in this episode. Enjoy!
1:30 - Cade Boggess - What is usually the priority when it comes to placements? Is there an order of importance when it comes to rarity, production, and flexibility?
4:06 - Shiva Kumar Shicashankar - In competitive catan environment with people conversing live or via voice chat, would you agree that dev card/army game is better than a road game since it is somewhat easier for the to team up and conspire against you to break your road, reduce your max road length, or give someone else the longest road?
5:30 - Shiva - Dandy - thank you for giving us awesome and consistent catan content. Looks like you are inspiring Dylighted to post more too. If yoi are placing first, what are the situations that you will not take a 569 (assuming it gives you at least two distinct resources)?
7:30 - Christopher Cuomo - Do you play any of the other expansions (seafarers, cities and knights, etc)? If so, which one is your favorite and why? Do you believe the base game is the best and most strategic version, or do you prefer one of the expansions?
9:40 - Shiva - Can you do a video on hand tracking tips? How to get better at it step by step?
11:53 - Julian Taffa - How does your strategy change if you know you're playing against much weaker players? I often find they are much harder to predict placements for, and much less willing to trade in general
14:08 - Ipwnwithmatrix - I'd love to see some sort of mini guide on 1v1 placements, I'm stuck in diamond and think my placement strategy is a big factor in my losses
15:47 - Eric Schill - It seems like there are four main strategies in catan: balanced setup, relying heavily on ports, road building/ expansion, OWS (obvious a mix of four is common. Which strategy have you found to be most reliable and consistent? Which one is the most underrated? Of course, every board is different, just wanted to hear your thoughts. Love the videos.
17:31 - Eric Schill - What percentage of the game is strategy vs luck? My friends always say I get lucky but I think they are just jealous of my success in catan lol
18:56 - Kyle Hsu - Thanks Drew, I think your mental positivity in the game is what "drew" me to your channel :) did you always have that mindset even when you started?
20:41 - Zakolache - How does the desert spot in a game change your thought process, especially during the initial placements? ie. center vs edge vs 2nd ring desert
22:32 - Goz Z - How do you evaluate players threat levels as there are strong late game and early game positions plus there's also player flexibility from ports to consider. Would just like to hear some examples of who do you think is stronger on a board even when there's a point gap
25:06 - baller34725 - What's the best strategy to win games when other players are making mistakes that are out of your control? Like trading others too loosely or tunneling on you with blocks/robs and allowing another player to get ahead
I’ve always wanted to learn more about when you talk about pacing. Should I ask that question back in that other post?
I feel like I just went through a therapy/motivational session with the music and positivity talks! Love it.
1% everyday, we all get better! Glad you are here :)
We love DaD.
“9/11 or 11/9 depends on your historical reference” You didn’t think we’d forget that one huh?
I knew it was coming as soon as I said 9 11
I really liked this! Extra chill vibes with the soft background music made it feel a little special / different from your normal format, too. Loved the discussion on positivity; being able to take a suboptimal situation that is out of your control in stride is just good life advice in general!
Got to bring the chill vibes to balance out the sweaty competitive games 😅
@@dandydrew Haha! Perfect for the weekend 😄
Great content, Dandy! Love that you went the extra mile to put the questions in the description, nice to navigate through.
The 1v1 question is all you
I loved this format! thank you DD 😄
Wow you're really good at this RUclips thing man
I like this format a lot! Great job balancing the Q+A with the gameplay
I don’t comment on this app very often, but I just want to let you know dandy that this quote “When you have that mindset that nothing can break you, and you can just always look at everything as an opportunity to get better and to be the best that you can. Man, nothing will slow you down. Nothing will stop you.” at the end of this is actually incredibly inspirational. I absolutely love you and your content. Keep up the incredible work!
❤️ 1% everyday we get better and better. Stay great!
You touched on it this time. Are there any general things you look at to determine the value of 2:1 vs 3:1 ports?
Dude. This is such a good channel and the quality of content is insane. You seem like such a great person.
Question: How come when Dylan gets an early VP he’s frustrated, but when you get an early VP you say “That’s so good!”
Haha, it depends on what game you're going for. If you are shooting for longest road long term, it's good because it's hard to earn the last 3 points as a longest road player. You often get 5 settles + longest road for 7 but getting the last 3 points requires you to city twice. So pulling a VP is very good because now you don't have to build two cities which is often difficult if you have little or no ore. For OWS players it's much worse to get an early VP, because you really need knights to defend your hexes and secure largest army. Dylon plays OWS all the time whereas Drew goes for more creative set ups so it's more often Dylan gets a useless VP.
The smooth jazz in the background is a nice touch.
green must have kicked himself for not taking road😅.
Green trying to be too cute with road
Never seen so many roads dropped without taking longest road
@@dandydrew If green had taken road, what do you think your win condition was in that game? I assume you race the bot to the remaining ore spot and build to 10, right? You had the road-road-settle to that spot even without playing the Monopoly.
I love your answer Drew, thanks! Keep spreading love in the Catan community! :D
Thank you for sharing your question! 🎉
When I’m hand tracking
I look to what they have (resources) n what rolled
N u can look at ur own hand for reference
Great vids as always 😊
Love the content, keep up the amazimg work ❤
The elevator music made this video very calming 😂
Awesome format. Thank you for answering all my questions. I think you should 1) make this format once a month 2) do a livestream where you answer questions as you play. It may open up super chats as a revenue stream for you 😊
That would be amazing… Any support from the community is welcomed and will go back into the channel to improve the production! Happy to answer those questions! -DD
13:40 every time you say "_ would be great" you 7 out 😂
Awesome videos keep up the good work u are the best !
Really glad to see so much content lately. Keep it up!
Love the idea of this series, thanks for answering my question Mr. Drew!
Thank you for submitting it. See you around! - DD
very nice. i'm looking forward to more of these :)
Hey Drew - can you explain your thought process around coordinated hexes, sometimes it's mentioned as a positive, sometimes I get the sense that you live and die by the rolls a lot more. Cheers for the content :)
Hi DandyDrew :) i would really like to see you play in some cities and knights matches. I have played the expansion a long time ago irl and would love to see how you approach this gamemode with its different strategies, unique resources etc :)
Really enjoy your great content!
Soon… I got you
great content. looking forward to the DAD videos in the future. green folded, waited a bit too long to take road imo. didn't count dev's as a point like you mentioned lol
Thanks Kenny! Many DAD episodes to come
At 11:00 did you consider blackmailing green to not plow?
I've always wondered why the names of the resources were chosen, because officially it is ore grain wool lumber and brick, but the community says ore wheat sheep wood brick
think it is because of ease. "grain" and "lumber" are both words used generally less often than "wheat" and "wood". this is also why some people call "ore" -> "rock". which still is a bit of a divide to this day. probably the determining factor for most people was that ore makes more sense, since obtaining rocks from mountains being a precious resource is weird. also, single syllable words are just easier to say in table talk.
@@hritabanroy6911 I call it stone lol
In my language we usually say rock, rye, lamb, wood and clay
Dandy crew 💛
Hold up… I’ve seen 6 5 9’s, but why do 8 5 9’s not ever happen??
This has to do with the spiral method of placing the tiles. It’s just the way it is.
Got a question: what is your profession irl?/what kind of work do you do?
Awesome content
Blue was robbing the bot all game.
at around the 11:00 mark you bought a dev card, I think I would have traded the wheat for a brick to try and get to the sheep port quicker. Any thoughts on why one is better than the other?
It’s possible… I tried quite a few trades early on and they didn’t want to budge. Also, I was trying to focus on answering the questions coherently while playing. I can’t claim to be 100% focused in the game 😅
Good idea and video as always. Unfortunatly for me, i couldnt stand the elevator music. Might just be me tho :)
Thanks DaD
I think its hard to argue catan is 80% skill if the top pros are pushing 50% win rate. Like in my eyes if it really was 80%, you would be near an 80% win rate. Tough to say tho, skill is what gives you the most chance to win tho for sure.
You have to assess catan’s skill and luck from the perspective of the long-term. In a given game, the dice variance can certainly imbalance in unfavorable ways. The aspect of skill comes in when you look at the many games over time and how good decision-making stacks. I feel incredibly confident I can take any account into the top 10 within 100 games - I have ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY on this. Why? Because I know my skill in the long-run will pay off. If you can take any account into the top 10 consistently, then the game MUST be skill-driven by a large margin. Otherwise, the race for the top of the board would be a lot more unpredictable and inconsistent.
The real challenge for a player is to know when you were lucky (or unlucky) and/or when you are playing skillfully. If you can learn to distinguish those aspects, then you will be able to critically evaluate your game and work on your weaknesses to improve.
@@dandydrew I agree you can do that but I disagree with the assessment to some extent.
Chess is one game almost everyone agrees is 100% skill. You either win or lose base off of your decisions. If an chess grandmaster player plays someone who is expert level. The grandmaster will win 99% of the time.
If an extreme pro player in Catan like you played against 3 experts but not pros, maybe 40% win rate. Sure you would win a lot in the long-term. But it would be still really solid if you had a 50% win rate. But you could be leagues better than the rest of the table but still lose half the time.
All we do as experienced Catan players is make the plays that generate us the most EV in terms of wins. Yes overtime the best players will end up top, you see this in poker as well. If you play 1000's of hands in heads-up poker one player will end up on top.
Catan is 100% skill in the fact that if you make bad decisions you will lose. And if you make good ones, and your opponents make good ones, you can get up to a 50% win rate. To me, a game where 50% of the time winning does not correlate with a game that's 80% skill.
The game is 100% skill based on who reaches the top, that goes for any game (with decisions that can be made) ever. When assessing a chance to a particular game, it will always be determined by, the board, your opponents, and dice rolls. All of these factors will impact the chance you win.
I guess if you really want to say it like the way you are putting it, Catan is a 100% skill game because every decision you make either increases or decreases your chance of winning.
Like what does your 20% luck chance really mean at the heart?
@@brycepowell6639 have you factored in the fact that you’re comparing a game where you only play against one opponent with a game where you’re playing against three opponents at once. Obviously your win rate will be much lower when 4 people can win instead of only 2. 80% skill equalling a win rate in the 40s% feels about right
Another great vid! Let's boost the algorithm!
GO GO GO GO GO!
"DaD" - very nice uncle Drew
Uncle 😂 I would like to think I’m a bit more like the older brother but i’ll take uncle. Family is family. GG
Cities & Knights video please : )
Double D the man
It is dandycrew or dandydrew? I laugh every time you mix them ahahahah
😂 DandyDrew always says hi to DandyCrew
Dnadydrew
Thanks for this new format Drew. Can I ask that you lower the music volume a bit?
I make note of this for the next episode! Thanks
@@dandydrew Nooo I really enjoyed it! I found it very calming! It's a nice contrast to the stressful games
@@suzyocean7392 Agreed! Music is a nice touch, and not too loud.
Appreciate all the heads up. I tried to make it low enough that it’s there but doesn’t pop or distract. I enjoyed the vibe the music adds too!
For me the music volume was just right! (speakers -- don't know if it's maybe different for headphone users)
If you could invent a third victory condition what would it be? Now we got road and army. Maybe master trader after x amount of trades.
PRAY,POP, PARTY
This question is too serious for an AMA post, so I'll just ask it here:
You've been a firefighter, policeman, astronaut, you name it... is professional catan player your newest addition to that list, Mr Sins?
80% skill and 20% luck doesn't sound very accurate to me. it's definetely more luck than that. Not much in dice but mostly in the devs you draw. had you drawn 3 knights instead of 2 vps and the mono this game for example, you would have not won. It is in fact well known that 3 vps will most often result in a win. I don't have statistical data on this but I will keep tracking of my own games to see if I can confirm it.
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Thanks DaD