This was certainly a different time. People back then routinely got married and started families in their early 20s, and sometimes right out of high school.
So let me get this straight, he has a wife, a house, a large supportive family and a gardening business. Alice wants him to go to college, get into debt, graduate, get a job, buy a house, build up more debt, get married, start a family, pay off debts, live happily ever after.🤔🤔
She has to do that. It is her job as a teacher to see that the students can get all the education they can handle, and he can handle a lot. I would have loved to see him give community college a try.
Remember also that college in 1969 did not cost what it does in 2023 (even as late as the early 80s, community college was nearly free, and state universities ran $300 a semester), so the mindset regarding education debt was very different.
And today's Mr. Dixon and Ms. Johnson would be able to help Robert combine his love of landscaping and the family business with a college/university experience. Options.
10:53 It seems like young ones are taught by their parents and social circle, plus the media they listen to, that people are against them, that everyone else judges them, when that is often not the case. I live in a *very diverse area: Arizona is home to 21 different tribal nations, used to be part of Mexico, and has a large population of folk from that time, and tons of new folk from everywhere it seems, from California to the east coast, from south of the border, from other lands far away. Spanish is commonly spoken here, just as those of us that grew up here grew up in this environment such that it is natural for us. We think nothing of it. From the time that we were small, we grew up with other languages, cultures and skin tones all around us: these are our friends, our childhood playmates, our classmates, our teachers, our bosses/supervisors, our team mates, our coaches, our best friends, our coworkers, our neighbors, and our dates. Tons of us grew up here, and we are not bigoted. We were seeing the content of people's characters long before MLK Jr. mentioned it. But new folk move here from other places, and they treat us as if we are bigots, when the opposite is true. Some have called it "reverse-discrimination," some call it "having a chip on their shoulder" against everyone that looks different from them, and they're creating pain and sorrow by treating people badly for no reason other than they've been taught to believe that all others are bigoted when it's not true. We've seen it happen so many times. People tend to believe that others are against them and it can become a self-fulfilling form of antagonism and self-pity that separates, that is damaging to everyone, that drives others away. I've never met anyone born here that is a bigot. There is no way to grow up in this togetherness-environment and be a bigot. To assume that people are bigots when you don't know that they are, is prejudicial, it's judging without knowing, and it's unfair.
It seems innocuos enough now, but I imagine that brief interracial dance between Pete and Alice caused quite a stir at the time! Just a few years earlier, CBS Standards and Practices had problems if Greg Morris and Barbara Bain were too close together in the same shot! Does anyone know if this was the first interracial dance in network television history?
Shirley Temple performed with Bill "Bojangles" Robinson in the 1935 movie The Little Colonel. They were the first interracial couple to dance onscreen. Not sure about network TV though.
Typical, the two teachers' assumption that EVERYONE can only live up to their potential if they go to college and become "a doctor or lawyer" even when that's not what they want. "It's not the only way," I agree. I had a GED score good enough for college, but I'm glad I never went.
Alice Johnson is so perfect and enthusiastic and shiny happy smiley that she's sickening. It's too bad that they didn't portray her character as more human like with flaws and scars and warts just like the rest of us.
So you're saying that cheerfulness is sickening/despicable and fake in your view? Wow. That attitude guarantees that you will drive happy, affirming people away from your life. What a future that will create! Maybe it's not cheer and good attitudes that are the problem, maybe it's your perspective. People that have known pain and trauma can still know cheer, happiness and joy.
There was an episode where the students made her cry and she found herself questioning her whole future-- She's often portrayed as having low self-esteem and doubts.
College is not for everyone. A message still relevant today.
This was certainly a different time. People back then routinely got married and started families in their early 20s, and sometimes right out of high school.
So let me get this straight, he has a wife, a house, a large supportive family and a gardening business. Alice wants him to go to college, get into debt, graduate, get a job, buy a house, build up more debt, get married, start a family, pay off debts, live happily ever after.🤔🤔
She has to do that. It is her job as a teacher to see that the students can get all the education they can handle, and he can handle a lot. I would have loved to see him give community college a try.
Remember also that college in 1969 did not cost what it does in 2023 (even as late as the early 80s, community college was nearly free, and state universities ran $300 a semester), so the mindset regarding education debt was very different.
Thank you for posting this.
Teachers in mini-skirts too.
Indeed. That's how we did it.
Karen Valentine certainly had a cute little a** that looked FINE in those mini skirts!!
Robert became suddenly defensive when the interviewer was only making an innocent query.
The 70s were the serial killer era in California, not a wise place to hitch-hike
Everyone hitched back then. It was the law of the land.
And today's Mr. Dixon and Ms. Johnson would be able to help Robert combine his love of landscaping and the family business with a college/university experience. Options.
There was still optimism in 1969 even though we lived through Assassinations and the Vietnam War.
I don't remember this show being soo serious. 🤔
Fronk from Father Knows Best
10:53 It seems like young ones are taught by their parents and social circle, plus the media they listen to, that people are against them, that everyone else judges them, when that is often not the case. I live in a *very diverse area: Arizona is home to 21 different tribal nations, used to be part of Mexico, and has a large population of folk from that time, and tons of new folk from everywhere it seems, from California to the east coast, from south of the border, from other lands far away. Spanish is commonly spoken here, just as those of us that grew up here grew up in this environment such that it is natural for us. We think nothing of it. From the time that we were small, we grew up with other languages, cultures and skin tones all around us: these are our friends, our childhood playmates, our classmates, our teachers, our bosses/supervisors, our team mates, our coaches, our best friends, our coworkers, our neighbors, and our dates. Tons of us grew up here, and we are not bigoted. We were seeing the content of people's characters long before MLK Jr. mentioned it. But new folk move here from other places, and they treat us as if we are bigots, when the opposite is true. Some have called it "reverse-discrimination," some call it "having a chip on their shoulder" against everyone that looks different from them, and they're creating pain and sorrow by treating people badly for no reason other than they've been taught to believe that all others are bigoted when it's not true. We've seen it happen so many times. People tend to believe that others are against them and it can become a self-fulfilling form of antagonism and self-pity that separates, that is damaging to everyone, that drives others away. I've never met anyone born here that is a bigot. There is no way to grow up in this togetherness-environment and be a bigot. To assume that people are bigots when you don't know that they are, is prejudicial, it's judging without knowing, and it's unfair.
Nice to see papa Juan Valdez of Folgers coffee..
Meaning what?
No shit,..was it really him???!!!
@@cassandramedrano9003 " lighten up Fransis " !!!!!
@@hermanator74301 Meaning what?
I don't get this comment either.
It seems innocuos enough now, but I imagine that brief interracial dance between Pete and Alice caused quite a stir at the time! Just a few years earlier, CBS Standards and Practices had problems if Greg Morris and Barbara Bain were too close together in the same shot!
Does anyone know if this was the first interracial dance in network television history?
Shirley Temple performed with Bill "Bojangles" Robinson in the 1935 movie The Little Colonel. They were the first interracial couple to dance onscreen. Not sure about network TV though.
Typical, the two teachers' assumption that EVERYONE can only live up to their potential if they go to college and become "a doctor or lawyer" even when that's not what they want.
"It's not the only way," I agree. I had a GED score good enough for college, but I'm glad I never went.
Alice Johnson is so perfect and enthusiastic and shiny happy smiley that she's sickening. It's too bad that they didn't portray her character as more human like with flaws and scars and warts just like the rest of us.
She was too young for flaws and scars and warts. And yeah, that pisses old people off. Always has.
She is literally getting her scars in this episode
So you're saying that cheerfulness is sickening/despicable and fake in your view? Wow. That attitude guarantees that you will drive happy, affirming people away from your life. What a future that will create! Maybe it's not cheer and good attitudes that are the problem, maybe it's your perspective. People that have known pain and trauma can still know cheer, happiness and joy.
There was an episode where the students made her cry and she found herself questioning her whole future-- She's often portrayed as having low self-esteem and doubts.
I've known many Alice Johnsons in my long life.
There are genuinely happy people in the world.