Regarding the Spiritus Sancti: Summer Rayne Oaks recently featured a tour of a couple's Victorian Greenhouse and they have a section explaining how to propagate it due to it's problems with propagating, well worth checking out. Even without the info on the Spiritus Sancti it is an awesome tour with some amazing plants and historical information.
Watched a video recently of a guy who (apparently) managed to get one to seed and got thousands of seeds to sprout. He even showed a few variegates but no idea if there was a follow up or if they made it to market.
I IMMEDIATELY remembered that tour and convo about the issues with propagating the Spiritus Sancti when she said that! It's definitely a good watch. What a cool tour!
@@faeribex most likely was Red Leaf Exotics. I believe they were the first to produce SS from seed in the US. Also yes they have gone to market lol. I want to say they were about 1k. I just checked their website again and they’re down to $500 for a non variegated seedling!
As much as I love collecting the rare plants I find selling the more common and affordable plants is much easier way to supplement the funds to put towards those items. I can sell spider plants and golden pothos all day everyday with little effort or danger of loss. Prices coming down drastically in my area has helped exponentially on the more uncommon but common plants are still holding value.
Thanks for the input. I am a long time, generally successful plant grandma, at age 75. Living on social security is hard and I am now propagating plants to try to sell on varied sites. May I ask if you sell online or out of your home? I am focusing on lower and only slightly higher priced plants that seem easier to propagate.
@@tonibauer2405 I sell locally only on Facebook marketplace. Easy to do a few low level props and test your local market. I have even had some local sellers buy me out of 4 inch pots of pothos @$5 a pot. Not bad when you have lots of stock I bought my clarinervium from that sale and was about $10 in supplies between pots and soil and fertilizer. Plus I love growing things so it's a win all around for me. I never plan to make it a main source of income, just support my habit.
@@bethanynewell9601 thanks, Bethany! That sounds appealing. I can’t do a yard sale type thing as I moved from a house to a secure apartment in 2016. And it is a lot of work sending stuff through the mail. I will surely look into Facebook Marketplace. Have you ever tried Craig’s List?
@@tonibauer2405 I have not used Craig's list. There are people in my neighboring cities who use carts to bring down from appartmentss when someone is coming to purchase a plant. Or meet at a local public spot.
I wonder if that depends on your local market. I've had the opposite experience. It would take me the same effort to prop spider plants v. Philo burle marx, but the spider plants people don't want even when free.
@@MNemerald I don't know... I myself have 30 different Epipremnum, that includes 22 cultivars of aureum :) and I'm sure there is more I haven't heard of. There is definitely more in cultivation than Scindapsus and we've got a rare plant index for those. The aureum itself is a fascinating plant, it's endemic to one small island (50 sq mi), doesn't propagate by seed (can't produce flowers) and yet it's the most common houseplant in the world. Or at least it seems to be considering how everyone at some point or the other grows a pothos. Talk about a success story!
@@horace6851 I adore pothos. You’ve just inspired me to hunt for more epipremnums. I have all the types of pothos except for harlequin and a few scindapsus. Thanks for the inspiration! I seem to be on a houseplant buying spree this spring 😂
@@charlottecobain6986 You're welcome! Good thing pothos cuttings are generally not expensive so I won't feel guilty :) I love Epipremnum too, there always have been at least one of them growing in my home since I remember. My mom had a giant one on the wall. I need to replace my n'Joy, it was too close to the window over winter and did not survive, so I guess it's plant shopping time for me to :))
I love the way you model the plants in your hand in these last couple videos, it kind of reminds me of those girls on gameshows showing prizes lol, good information though.
Scored an established monstera albo for 10 pounds in an auction recently, just because no one wanted it thanks to some scratched leaves from a cat in its previous home. Thanks Kaylee for making me hold back for a deal on this plant instead of paying far over market value, even though I've been wanting this plant for years!
I’m actually not really upset as a plant collector because the oblique and esquelito are both on my wishlist so it’ll be nice to get one at s more affordable price, and I didn’t really want to variegated adinsonii but for a cheaper price I might get one now
Honestly, I think these are good things when plants are mass produced and the market treats goes down. This makes the plants available for everyone to purchase and not just for people who are extremely well off. Also, when a rare plant is more commercially available then we don’t have people poaching plants in the wild. Let’s keep making plants available for everyone lol!
I think any decent human being should think like that. But these people and the video isn’t for normal plant parents, moreover for people who want to make money with plants… 🥴 weird af but that’s capitalism lol
I come from a background of collecting vinyl records & I didn’t realise those looney collector types existed in the plant world (as I’m fairly new to it). Sheesh, was I wrong!!
Lots of plants are affordable tho, rare plant collectors are not just getting plants, they probably at least sell cuttings to get newer plants and if you spent £800 on one hoping its an investment, then a big company with endless resources mass produces them, it just makes it impossible for small sellers to make money, or even get their money back. It’s actually kind of the opposite ….. cheap rare plants just means big mass producers are making bank and small sellers cannot make anything really.
For those with a small budget are so many possibities to get plants, even rare plants, by swapping cuttings or plants, buying baby-plants, buying poor broken plants in a bulk. However some of these 'rare' plants are over the top, even as tiny babies. I wouldn't buy them either.
I totally get that the monstera b. albo is pretty up there around the world. But I cannot help it but laugh a bit, because I'm sitting here and bought 2 very well rooted cuttings for a total of 30usd in november. One of them got root rot and died, but the other one is just about to pop out the third very beautiful fenestested leaf 😊
Saw clearanced out Lynamii in San Diego over the weekend for $70, crazy to see for a large sized plant but awesome to see prices come down after covid prices.
@@moniquevanderziel9932 are you in the San Diego Houseplant BST group? The first part of the orchid show at the botanical garden was last weekend and the leftovers were sold in the group at clearanced prices.
I live in Australia and the prices you are giving as typical examples are a dream here. WAY more expensive for us, up to 10x more. I have given up on buying rare plants. Have been lucky a couple of times - got a Hoya kerrii splash cutting and a Thai monstera cutting that both grew really well for cheap. Other than that, I have had very poor ROI on any "rare" plant I have bought.
Totally agree with these. Especially anthurium. They were hot a year + ago. Now, wayyyy cheaper. I got a small clarinervium for $20 cdn a little bit ago. And the crystallinum I got a year ago are worth nothing. I love them though. They are special to me.
I really like my esqueleto. it's such a nice plant and the leaves size up relatively fast. What I like about climbing monstera in general is that they are easier to get climbing than philodendrons for example. you set them against a wall or an unsealed piece of wood and they're happy, you just feed/water them and don't need to deal with spraying moss poles.
I just bought a way too expensive baby monstera albo (UK based) that clearly needs some love (and some hydroperoxide, siiiiigh......) and i wish id found your channel sooner to save me from my future headache of giving the baby the care she deserves. She has some root rot, is missing a leaf, and has some small brown holes in her single leaf (the non swiss cheesy kind). You're really helping me out here, and i subscribed! Also: YES YOURE A PROFESSIONAL! GIRL 😂😂😂 if that kind of shop doesnt count towards your professionalism, what does 😂 give yourself some credit, goodness me
Hey there! Don’t know if you’ve heard about Red Leaf Exotics! They grew a whole bunch of PSS from seed!!! Quite the achievement, and their babes are $500 USD!!
I got a Philodendron Spiritus Sancti (acclimatised Tissue Culture) baby plant for just £20 recently and the seller still has them for sale at that price. :3
I recently bought a mature Albo with 6 big leaves and two more on the way + several long aereal roots in one of Swedens biggest online plantshops. I payed under £60 and that included shipping.
ohh my god i have never seen that last one and i am madly inlove with my tiny baby crappy cutting of a monstera adensonii , this his him just scaled up x40 HAHAAA i love it
I’m not in the plant buying and selling space as an investor, but just from observing I noticed a quick and drastic price drop in Hoya Silver Dollar. Just half a year ago small, two leaf cuttings were selling for $800-$1000, now I’m seeing them for as low as $100.
Here in US a 2 leaf cutting is about $300-$450 USD. Ridiculous in my opinion seeing as how a Hoya can turn on u on a dime. Way too risky for me. Hoya are way too expensive in general and people raiding the forests & burning down areas so others can't collect is all too common. Couldn't believe it when I heard this was going on. Incredibly sad to have such a thing happen over a plant that nobody wants to share. Hoyas are so slow growing too.
I got two albo mid cuttings with good roots for around 30 pounds this year, they've recently acclimatised to their potting mix and the first leaf shoots have appeared now, three months on. Not looking to make money on mine, just want it for myself, think they're so beautiful
I know you will never see this but I'll say so anyway, I would adore to watch you unpack plants from your wholesalers. I remember one tome you unpacked some huge warocs (I believe) I could watch videos like that for hourssssss.
Adansonii can absolutely get that big. One of mine has leaves that are just a little bit smaller than that. Maybe an inch smaller at most. Probably not even that much. I’ve had it on a moss pole in my turtle room (85°F+ & 75-80% Humidity) with a a couple of SANSI grow lights & mine is about 5 feet tall & the leaves are massive. It’s looks like a wild adansonii. I bought it when it only had like 5 leaves from a big box store here in the US for $5. It was actually 5 plants in one pot (I should say 5 barley rooted, shitty cuttings wrapped in death plugs. Costa farms has gone down hill) & I split up the plants & gave a few away as gifts & the one I kept has become a beautiful giant. I believe it’s a “wide leaf” Adansonii. However I have another one that’s more of a trailing type & even those leaves are about 6-7 inches long. She’s also on a moss pole. She’s not as bushy as my wife leaf. But she’s getting there. Both were bought from big box stores. one was costa farms & the other was wild interiors I believe. Idk maybe the ones sold in the US are some weird hybrids but I have seen quite a few ppl with massive Adansonii’s like mine.
First time here & staying, thank you! Most informative & engaging UK based creator I have seen to date. Love your shop, would love a walk through video (if there isn’t one yet).
@@MiamiBeachNativeInNYC lol oh no! I would have been so bummed. I do love Hoyas as well, though my collection currently mostly consists of small cuttings I’m hoping will grow into big plants some day. My bigger plants are the basic carnosa krimson queen and princess. I love compactas but can’t keep them alive for the life of me 🤦🏻♀️
I buy plants from plant decor shop. They have plants in 4” pot for cheap. Also they give one free, and their good with refund if your plant comes in damaged.
Actually, Regarding the tissue culture plants, I think in some cases they have been found to be inferior and weak. I can only speak of my experience with Rhaphidophora Tetrasperma. I had one “real” one then purchased a TC version. The tissue culture was weak, rotted when I tried to propagate, and yellowed then died. The nursery where I purchased the TC one never replenished them. My Original Rhaph is 6 ft tall and beautiful. So….. Maybe that is a reason some plants fall out of fashion? I would never knowingly purchase a TC plant….. Based on my past experiences. They’re like a weak mutation. Imho.
If market trend is going down, the plant is easy to propagate and is projected to come back up in two-three years… wouldn’t that make it a good investment plant?
@@KayleeEllenOfficial And the Never Know is such a dangerous thing for some. I've heard of people using up their retirement $ and being left with $0 & a few crispy leaves. To me at just doesn't seem worth it with the economy in such turmoil. It's scary and I appreciate & love your videos, knowledge, and honesty.
One home box shop had varigated monstera adansoni on sale for 990 EUR... it got very sad and crispy and price was lovered to 300 EUR... idk what happed to it after that.
It’s too bad the market is keeping the price of the spiritus artificially high. I wish it was mass produced in TC, not only because I want one at a decent price 😏, but it would also help it not become extinct in the wild because it would discourage poaching and maybe propagators can focus on naturally pollinating the plant for genetic diversity instead of just trying to make money off it. It’s sad that a love for a plant is killing it in the wild for the sake of capitalizing off it ☹️.
glad I didnt buy the adansonii variegated at $1000 here in Philippines last year. Nowadays, I'm seeing local propagations selling for $60 even $50. funny how re-sellers here hyped this plant as status symbols along with other plants that are in the $1K-$3K levels so they can justify their huge margins.
Is there any advice for growing an Obliqua from runners, I bought one and it started producing runners, ironically I thought it was an Adansonii at first but the runners finally came and I wanted to try and see how to get them rooted, should I cut it off? Or pin the runner to the moss pole?
Esqueleto likes my care way better then the adansonii so I’m happier with it 😂 but they grow like weeds in Florida so if you have a connection it’s easy to obtain
I reacted to that as well. IDK why these plants are so expensive here when many of them come from Indonesia and the Philippines. Is it our quarantine system?
In France you can easily find fully rooted monstera albo for less than 100 euros, far less than what you stated for Europe! Definitely agree this isn't a great investment Also high double digits for those anthuriums? Crystallinums don't go over 50 bucks here 🥲
bof ça dépend de la taille du crysta, le Jardiland de vers chez moi a eu un arrivage de bébés crysta dans des pots de 6 cm à 15€, mais des crystas matures comme celui qu'elle a montré vaut dans les 40-60 balled
@@assiab4524 les baby crystallinum c'est des silver blush, ils sont souvent moins chers, et les prix de jardineries sont souvent un peu déconnants oui ! Quand je parle de prix plus abordable ça va être sur des petites boutiques ou sur les groupes Facebook 😊
I think the AU market is bit different from the EU UK and US market. Pure mature anthuriums are still high three digits or low four digits. But the price of the more local species such as whipple way and ilsemanii is going down.
Yaknow? I’ll be honest, when I first stumbled upon this channel I enjoyed it a lot and then I started noticing a change in the vibe and it initially turned me off a bit I guess I just got elitist vibes idk but I’ve tuned into the last several videos that have come out after not watching for a good while and almost rolling my eyes when other planttubers would bring up miss kaylee Ellen but I think the change in vibe is due to the stress that comes with having a well known plant shop and being active in the online plant community like people get salty because they almost feel like what started as just a collector ended up going on to open a successful plant shop and are now operating in the interest of their business instead of the interest of a consumer like most of the people watching still are. That being said (even as someone who admittedly did stop watching for a while due to the vibe alteration lol), I’m pretty sure the amount of hate she gets is super unwarranted. She’s just acting in her own best interest and who wouldn’t do that for themselves? Like I do think that she does emit a more blunt and less bubbly vibe but I almost don’t even blame her just due to the sheer amount of shit she gets online compared to other planttubers of a similar size. Idk I just have enjoyed the last several videos I’ve tuned into and I feel like I judged too quickly and I think a lot of the other people that are ex kaylee viewers should revisit the channel I feel like she’s quite a bit misjudged and that must be difficult when your just trying to live your life and do what your passionate about.
I mean unless there’s some horrible thing she’s done or some hypothetical crime to the plant community she’s committed (none of which I’m aware of) she didn’t deserve most of the shit she’s gotten for just trying to do what basically any phytosexual person would do if they were presented with the opportunity. I think I was just player hating and that shit is weak, don’t hate the player hate the game ya feel
Doing something for money doesn’t make it a profession. A profession is a skilled thing. she is skilled, however, so you’re write anyway. I think her disclaimer would have been more appropriate against the word expert.
So basically you only sell the names you are able to hype up to extort people then when they drop in value to two and three figures you make videos telling people not to buy them 🤔
Notice the video where I'm talking about plants people SHOULD invest in, many of them I don't even own... It baffles me when I hold up other plants that I have hundreds of - and tell people NOT to invest in... And people think there's a motive 🤣
Monstera esqueleto gets mistaken for monstera adansonii which is why here in Mexico they don't pay attention to it, this monstera esqueleto is a plant that a regular plant-loving household has. I got mine and it costed like 3 USD. Crazy it's a thing in other countries.
Regarding the Spiritus Sancti: Summer Rayne Oaks recently featured a tour of a couple's Victorian Greenhouse and they have a section explaining how to propagate it due to it's problems with propagating, well worth checking out. Even without the info on the Spiritus Sancti it is an awesome tour with some amazing plants and historical information.
Watched a video recently of a guy who (apparently) managed to get one to seed and got thousands of seeds to sprout. He even showed a few variegates but no idea if there was a follow up or if they made it to market.
I IMMEDIATELY remembered that tour and convo about the issues with propagating the Spiritus Sancti when she said that! It's definitely a good watch. What a cool tour!
@@faeribex The variegated Spiritus Sancti was selling for 20k or more
@@o1139 oof 😅
@@faeribex most likely was Red Leaf Exotics. I believe they were the first to produce SS from seed in the US. Also yes they have gone to market lol. I want to say they were about 1k. I just checked their website again and they’re down to $500 for a non variegated seedling!
As much as I love collecting the rare plants I find selling the more common and affordable plants is much easier way to supplement the funds to put towards those items. I can sell spider plants and golden pothos all day everyday with little effort or danger of loss. Prices coming down drastically in my area has helped exponentially on the more uncommon but common plants are still holding value.
Thanks for the input. I am a long time, generally successful plant grandma, at age 75. Living on social security is hard and I am now propagating plants to try to sell on varied sites. May I ask if you sell online or out of your home? I am focusing on lower and only slightly higher priced plants that seem easier to propagate.
@@tonibauer2405 I sell locally only on Facebook marketplace. Easy to do a few low level props and test your local market. I have even had some local sellers buy me out of 4 inch pots of pothos @$5 a pot. Not bad when you have lots of stock I bought my clarinervium from that sale and was about $10 in supplies between pots and soil and fertilizer. Plus I love growing things so it's a win all around for me. I never plan to make it a main source of income, just support my habit.
@@bethanynewell9601 thanks, Bethany! That sounds appealing. I can’t do a yard sale type thing as I moved from a house to a secure apartment in 2016. And it is a lot of work sending stuff through the mail. I will surely look into Facebook Marketplace. Have you ever tried Craig’s List?
@@tonibauer2405 I have not used Craig's list. There are people in my neighboring cities who use carts to bring down from appartmentss when someone is coming to purchase a plant. Or meet at a local public spot.
I wonder if that depends on your local market. I've had the opposite experience. It would take me the same effort to prop spider plants v. Philo burle marx, but the spider plants people don't want even when free.
Can we have a epipremnum rare plant index would love to see more species of my favorite genus💖✨💕
What about dreacena 😏
the problem is i don’t think there’s very many at this point
@@MNemerald I don't know... I myself have 30 different Epipremnum, that includes 22 cultivars of aureum :) and I'm sure there is more I haven't heard of. There is definitely more in cultivation than Scindapsus and we've got a rare plant index for those. The aureum itself is a fascinating plant, it's endemic to one small island (50 sq mi), doesn't propagate by seed (can't produce flowers) and yet it's the most common houseplant in the world. Or at least it seems to be considering how everyone at some point or the other grows a pothos. Talk about a success story!
@@horace6851 I adore pothos. You’ve just inspired me to hunt for more epipremnums. I have all the types of pothos except for harlequin and a few scindapsus. Thanks for the inspiration! I seem to be on a houseplant buying spree this spring 😂
@@charlottecobain6986 You're welcome! Good thing pothos cuttings are generally not expensive so I won't feel guilty :) I love Epipremnum too, there always have been at least one of them growing in my home since I remember. My mom had a giant one on the wall. I need to replace my n'Joy, it was too close to the window over winter and did not survive, so I guess it's plant shopping time for me to :))
Time to learn how to TC my own plants and start undermining all these high prices from the ground up.
I love the way you model the plants in your hand in these last couple videos, it kind of reminds me of those girls on gameshows showing prizes lol, good information though.
Scored an established monstera albo for 10 pounds in an auction recently, just because no one wanted it thanks to some scratched leaves from a cat in its previous home. Thanks Kaylee for making me hold back for a deal on this plant instead of paying far over market value, even though I've been wanting this plant for years!
10 pounds!?! That is a score!
A very nice plant lady sold me an established PPP for 15€ so glad I waited!
I’m actually not really upset as a plant collector because the oblique and esquelito are both on my wishlist so it’ll be nice to get one at s more affordable price, and I didn’t really want to variegated adinsonii but for a cheaper price I might get one now
There’s a shop here in NYC that currently has big established Esqueleto’s for about $140 which isn’t bad for the size!
Got a 2 leaf esqueleto this week for £80 and I AM THRILLED! Have waited to add to my collection for ages!
Honestly, I think these are good things when plants are mass produced and the market treats goes down. This makes the plants available for everyone to purchase and not just for people who are extremely well off. Also, when a rare plant is more commercially available then we don’t have people poaching plants in the wild. Let’s keep making plants available for everyone lol!
I think any decent human being should think like that. But these people and the video isn’t for normal plant parents, moreover for people who want to make money with plants… 🥴 weird af but that’s capitalism lol
Exactly!
@@orphaxx1254 It's still a ponzi scheme though..
I come from a background of collecting vinyl records & I didn’t realise those looney collector types existed in the plant world (as I’m fairly new to it). Sheesh, was I wrong!!
Lots of plants are affordable tho, rare plant collectors are not just getting plants, they probably at least sell cuttings to get newer plants and if you spent £800 on one hoping its an investment, then a big company with endless resources mass produces them, it just makes it impossible for small sellers to make money, or even get their money back. It’s actually kind of the opposite ….. cheap rare plants just means big mass producers are making bank and small sellers cannot make anything really.
For those with a small budget are so many possibities to get plants, even rare plants, by swapping cuttings or plants, buying baby-plants, buying poor broken plants in a bulk. However some of these 'rare' plants are over the top, even as tiny babies. I wouldn't buy them either.
I totally get that the monstera b. albo is pretty up there around the world. But I cannot help it but laugh a bit, because I'm sitting here and bought 2 very well rooted cuttings for a total of 30usd in november. One of them got root rot and died, but the other one is just about to pop out the third very beautiful fenestested leaf 😊
I think the plant prices really vary across the US due to shipping and hold backs. Hard to find a good bargain.
Saw clearanced out Lynamii in San Diego over the weekend for $70, crazy to see for a large sized plant but awesome to see prices come down after covid prices.
What, really? I am in San Diego and have never seen one around, guess I am just not hitting up the right spots!
Wow what a great price! 😀
@@moniquevanderziel9932 are you in the San Diego Houseplant BST group? The first part of the orchid show at the botanical garden was last weekend and the leftovers were sold in the group at clearanced prices.
I live in Australia and the prices you are giving as typical examples are a dream here. WAY more expensive for us, up to 10x more. I have given up on buying rare plants. Have been lucky a couple of times - got a Hoya kerrii splash cutting and a Thai monstera cutting that both grew really well for cheap. Other than that, I have had very poor ROI on any "rare" plant I have bought.
Totally agree with these. Especially anthurium. They were hot a year + ago. Now, wayyyy cheaper. I got a small clarinervium for $20 cdn a little bit ago. And the crystallinum I got a year ago are worth nothing. I love them though. They are special to me.
What? I want them for that price.
I'm waiting for caramel marble and billie variegated to come down in price :)
I really like my esqueleto. it's such a nice plant and the leaves size up relatively fast.
What I like about climbing monstera in general is that they are easier to get climbing than philodendrons for example. you set them against a wall or an unsealed piece of wood and they're happy, you just feed/water them and don't need to deal with spraying moss poles.
I really want the Esqueleto.. I recently bought a Pinnatipartita & can’t wait to see it climb & fenestrate!! Cost was $25USD for a 4” pot w/ 4 leaves!
I think I saw in someones video of a plant show that monstra esequeletto is comming to mass market in the US. i hope so!
I just bought a way too expensive baby monstera albo (UK based) that clearly needs some love (and some hydroperoxide, siiiiigh......) and i wish id found your channel sooner to save me from my future headache of giving the baby the care she deserves. She has some root rot, is missing a leaf, and has some small brown holes in her single leaf (the non swiss cheesy kind). You're really helping me out here, and i subscribed!
Also: YES YOURE A PROFESSIONAL! GIRL 😂😂😂 if that kind of shop doesnt count towards your professionalism, what does 😂 give yourself some credit, goodness me
Hey there! Don’t know if you’ve heard about Red Leaf Exotics! They grew a whole bunch of PSS from seed!!! Quite the achievement, and their babes are $500 USD!!
I got a Philodendron Spiritus Sancti (acclimatised Tissue Culture) baby plant for just £20 recently and the seller still has them for sale at that price. :3
I recently bought a mature Albo with 6 big leaves and two more on the way + several long aereal roots in one of Swedens biggest online plantshops. I payed under £60 and that included shipping.
You hit lucky 👏🏻
ohh my god i have never seen that last one and i am madly inlove with my tiny baby crappy cutting of a monstera adensonii , this his him just scaled up x40 HAHAAA i love it
I’m not in the plant buying and selling space as an investor, but just from observing I noticed a quick and drastic price drop in Hoya Silver Dollar. Just half a year ago small, two leaf cuttings were selling for $800-$1000, now I’m seeing them for as low as $100.
Here in US a 2 leaf cutting is about $300-$450 USD. Ridiculous in my opinion seeing as how a Hoya can turn on u on a dime. Way too risky for me. Hoya are way too expensive in general and people raiding the forests & burning down areas so others can't collect is all too common. Couldn't believe it when I heard this was going on. Incredibly sad to have such a thing happen over a plant that nobody wants to share. Hoyas are so slow growing too.
I got two albo mid cuttings with good roots for around 30 pounds this year, they've recently acclimatised to their potting mix and the first leaf shoots have appeared now, three months on. Not looking to make money on mine, just want it for myself, think they're so beautiful
Not me having just “invested” in a Lynamii a week ago 😂
Yep you called it. For an albo and thai constalation low tripple digits cost. Screw it though there so cool even as a few single leaf cuttings.
Thank you
That was fun! I appreciate your opinion very much.
I know you will never see this but I'll say so anyway, I would adore to watch you unpack plants from your wholesalers. I remember one tome you unpacked some huge warocs (I believe) I could watch videos like that for hourssssss.
I just purchased a 8 leaf baby spiritus for $300....
Adansonii can absolutely get that big. One of mine has leaves that are just a little bit smaller than that. Maybe an inch smaller at most. Probably not even that much. I’ve had it on a moss pole in my turtle room (85°F+ & 75-80% Humidity) with a a couple of SANSI grow lights & mine is about 5 feet tall & the leaves are massive. It’s looks like a wild adansonii. I bought it when it only had like 5 leaves from a big box store here in the US for $5. It was actually 5 plants in one pot (I should say 5 barley rooted, shitty cuttings wrapped in death plugs. Costa farms has gone down hill) & I split up the plants & gave a few away as gifts & the one I kept has become a beautiful giant. I believe it’s a “wide leaf” Adansonii. However I have another one that’s more of a trailing type & even those leaves are about 6-7 inches long. She’s also on a moss pole. She’s not as bushy as my wife leaf. But she’s getting there. Both were bought from big box stores. one was costa farms & the other was wild interiors I believe. Idk maybe the ones sold in the US are some weird hybrids but I have seen quite a few ppl with massive Adansonii’s like mine.
I would for sure like TCed spiritus sancti from a grocery shop. 😁 Not gonna happen very soon...
Just got a TC monstera thai constellation for $35, I hope it doesn't give up on me as this will be my first TC plant.
I would absolutely LOVE to own an esqueleto some day!
First time here & staying, thank you! Most informative & engaging UK based creator I have seen to date. Love your shop, would love a walk through video (if there isn’t one yet).
Bought a monstera albo and absolutely hated it
Oh no! May I ask why? I love my albo, although it’s been a slow grower for me, but love it still the same.
@@noemyg28 i won a beautiful one in a giveaway and killed it :( …I’ve become a Hoya addict since then lol
@@MiamiBeachNativeInNYC lol oh no! I would have been so bummed. I do love Hoyas as well, though my collection currently mostly consists of small cuttings I’m hoping will grow into big plants some day. My bigger plants are the basic carnosa krimson queen and princess. I love compactas but can’t keep them alive for the life of me 🤦🏻♀️
Omg, this is the first time I adore your look, I love natural make up, very suitable fo you :*
Obliqua I saw that at food city but I’m from the states. It was like $35
Pacific Northwest is still mid three figures. Would love to get one
I buy plants from plant decor shop. They have plants in 4” pot for cheap. Also they give one free, and their good with refund if your plant comes in damaged.
Amazing I never knew there were so many different monsteras, is it possible to cross pollinate
similar philodendrons to produce hybrid offspring?
I’d love an aglaonema RPI!
Can't wait for the prices of the Spiritus Sancti to come down. I've wanted one for ages, but I'm not exactly rich.
Need a updated version :)
Off topic, but I love your background!
I just got 2 albo nodes for $40 usd so at least I don’t feel too scared about losing them! I can’t imagine spending what most are still asking for…
The monstera albo in Australia is easily mid to high triple digits for a baby or 1/2 leaf cutting
i would count that as being a professional
Beautiful plants 🪴
Like it.
Thank you for good sharing
the point is do not get any rare plant at all
Hello Kelly I learn a lot from your video I'm new in indoor plants just a new hobby.
Just curious, why is there a plastic bag on the first one?
Actually,
Regarding the tissue culture plants,
I think in some cases they have been found to be inferior and weak.
I can only speak of my experience with Rhaphidophora Tetrasperma. I had one “real” one then purchased a TC version.
The tissue culture was weak, rotted when I tried to propagate, and yellowed then died.
The nursery where I purchased the TC one never replenished them.
My Original Rhaph is 6 ft tall and beautiful.
So…..
Maybe that is a reason some plants fall out of fashion?
I would never knowingly purchase a TC plant…..
Based on my past experiences.
They’re like a weak mutation.
Imho.
I want one of those antheriums soooo bad.... theyre at $425 a leaf where i am....... id kill for it to be in high double digits
If market trend is going down, the plant is easy to propagate and is projected to come back up in two-three years… wouldn’t that make it a good investment plant?
I'm not saying necessarily its projected to come back up in 3 years. More just "you never know"
@@KayleeEllenOfficial And the Never Know is such a dangerous thing for some. I've heard of people using up their retirement $ and being left with $0 & a few crispy leaves. To me at just doesn't seem worth it with the economy in such turmoil. It's scary and I appreciate & love your videos, knowledge, and honesty.
I can purchase an Obliqua wetstick for just €20… but I’m not sure.
I've been waiting for this 👏
I watch these to see what I’ll be able to afford soon.
Thanks for the new vid :)
It must have been crazy expensive to get the code for TC of a Spritius... I cant even imagine.
whats is a code? to buy?
I saw a full eskeletor at a local pikes' nursery recently for 35, guess i should have got it lol
One home box shop had varigated monstera adansoni on sale for 990 EUR... it got very sad and crispy and price was lovered to 300 EUR... idk what happed to it after that.
It’s too bad the market is keeping the price of the spiritus artificially high. I wish it was mass produced in TC, not only because I want one at a decent price 😏, but it would also help it not become extinct in the wild because it would discourage poaching and maybe propagators can focus on naturally pollinating the plant for genetic diversity instead of just trying to make money off it. It’s sad that a love for a plant is killing it in the wild for the sake of capitalizing off it ☹️.
Im SO SUPRISE you said thai is a good investment but the Albo isnt?! Huh suprising. But im Glad haha cuz I chose the thai. I find her more pwetty 🖤
Oooh I’m early! Lookin good Kaylee! ❤️
Please do some review about homalomena tricolour as not many info we can get about it in english
glad I didnt buy the adansonii variegated at $1000 here in Philippines last year. Nowadays, I'm seeing local propagations selling for $60 even $50. funny how re-sellers here hyped this plant as status symbols along with other plants that are in the $1K-$3K levels so they can justify their huge margins.
I love my albos, heavily marbled, 1k a cutting in Australia
Aaaaand, I don’t love half the plants anyway😬😬😬...
Is there any advice for growing an Obliqua from runners, I bought one and it started producing runners, ironically I thought it was an Adansonii at first but the runners finally came and I wanted to try and see how to get them rooted, should I cut it off? Or pin the runner to the moss pole?
monstera burle marx flame can we have a video on y this is so expensive
Just commenting to remind you that you're awesome. 👁️✌🏻💚
There selling the plant on Ecuagenera for 1000 dollars . The site from Florida
What your store website I want to see your rare plants to purchase
Tc didn’t beat my seedling spiritus:) talk About timing;) PS you need a variegated spiritus😘
Esqueleto likes my care way better then the adansonii so I’m happier with it 😂 but they grow like weeds in Florida so if you have a connection it’s easy to obtain
Do you happen to have an esqueleto available? Would you like to trade?
@@catherinebaghdan7231 sorry no, mines still growing out. But Florida sellers sell them for about $100 a leaf
@@jenniferjsaracino they sell weeds for $100 per leaf? Unbelievable!
lol Come to Australia. These are a goldmine if you get good quality ones. The plant she's holding would be $1000AUD+
I reacted to that as well. IDK why these plants are so expensive here when many of them come from Indonesia and the Philippines. Is it our quarantine system?
In France you can easily find fully rooted monstera albo for less than 100 euros, far less than what you stated for Europe! Definitely agree this isn't a great investment
Also high double digits for those anthuriums? Crystallinums don't go over 50 bucks here 🥲
bof ça dépend de la taille du crysta, le Jardiland de vers chez moi a eu un arrivage de bébés crysta dans des pots de 6 cm à 15€, mais des crystas matures comme celui qu'elle a montré vaut dans les 40-60 balled
@@assiab4524 les baby crystallinum c'est des silver blush, ils sont souvent moins chers, et les prix de jardineries sont souvent un peu déconnants oui ! Quand je parle de prix plus abordable ça va être sur des petites boutiques ou sur les groupes Facebook 😊
I've seen posts of variegated spiritus sancti and I wonder if it's legit.
Thanks ur awesome,,
I have monstera albo and adansonii var
Let's invest in rare orchids 🤓
I agree about the PSS. I just bought a juvie for $300. I'm glad I was out of the country and waited until I was back.
Great to see you! Now to watch! Haha
Grrrrreat advice
I think the AU market is bit different from the EU UK and US market. Pure mature anthuriums are still high three digits or low four digits. But the price of the more local species such as whipple way and ilsemanii is going down.
Watching from Indonesia
Yaknow? I’ll be honest, when I first stumbled upon this channel I enjoyed it a lot and then I started noticing a change in the vibe and it initially turned me off a bit I guess I just got elitist vibes idk but I’ve tuned into the last several videos that have come out after not watching for a good while and almost rolling my eyes when other planttubers would bring up miss kaylee Ellen but I think the change in vibe is due to the stress that comes with having a well known plant shop and being active in the online plant community like people get salty because they almost feel like what started as just a collector ended up going on to open a successful plant shop and are now operating in the interest of their business instead of the interest of a consumer like most of the people watching still are. That being said (even as someone who admittedly did stop watching for a while due to the vibe alteration lol), I’m pretty sure the amount of hate she gets is super unwarranted. She’s just acting in her own best interest and who wouldn’t do that for themselves? Like I do think that she does emit a more blunt and less bubbly vibe but I almost don’t even blame her just due to the sheer amount of shit she gets online compared to other planttubers of a similar size. Idk I just have enjoyed the last several videos I’ve tuned into and I feel like I judged too quickly and I think a lot of the other people that are ex kaylee viewers should revisit the channel I feel like she’s quite a bit misjudged and that must be difficult when your just trying to live your life and do what your passionate about.
I mean unless there’s some horrible thing she’s done or some hypothetical crime to the plant community she’s committed (none of which I’m aware of) she didn’t deserve most of the shit she’s gotten for just trying to do what basically any phytosexual person would do if they were presented with the opportunity. I think I was just player hating and that shit is weak, don’t hate the player hate the game ya feel
yay!
If its your profession then you can absolutely call yourself a professional with the full support of the English Language! Yay!
Doing something for money doesn’t make it a profession. A profession is a skilled thing. she is skilled, however, so you’re write anyway. I think her disclaimer would have been more appropriate against the word expert.
Here’s my rule of thumb: if it’s available on Ecuagenera, the price is going to plummet
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So basically you only sell the names you are able to hype up to extort people then when they drop in value to two and three figures you make videos telling people not to buy them 🤔
Notice the video where I'm talking about plants people SHOULD invest in, many of them I don't even own...
It baffles me when I hold up other plants that I have hundreds of - and tell people NOT to invest in...
And people think there's a motive 🤣
The voice 😟
Your videos now are not the same as they used to be. So many ads!! I wouldn't say I like it. 😭
Monstera esqueleto gets mistaken for monstera adansonii which is why here in Mexico they don't pay attention to it, this monstera esqueleto is a plant that a regular plant-loving household has. I got mine and it costed like 3 USD. Crazy it's a thing in other countries.
that kind of thing is so funny.
Amazing & lucky!!