What Are the BEST Designs for Vintage Audio Manufacturers

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024

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  • @YouTube4Rudy
    @YouTube4Rudy Месяц назад +1

    Finally! A comprehensive tour of vintage receivers in a manner that can be visually understood. A very nice detail intro, and an excellent example of two very different approaches manufactures decided on. I can tell there was a lot of unplugging and lugging around making for a good display. Somehow, and I really don't know why, but this was much better than seeing advertisement photos. I would really enjoy this same kind of format for seeing other manufactures, other decades and other units (tapes, turntables etc.). This same format can be a comparison of different technologies such as quadraphonic or linear tracking turntables. Or flagship units, budget units, and the receiver wars of the 1970s. I know, get your back brace ready. These things are heavy!
    The only criticism I have is to see these units with its power on in a darken room. Receivers especially have this completely unique personality in a darken room than in the light.
    Thank you again, very well done! I learned a lot from this.

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks! I will come back and do more, like review the various models available from different manufacturers in a specific year, etc., but with lights ON! 😀

  • @jb.2986
    @jb.2986 Месяц назад +2

    Enjoyed that video format, Scott. Your vids are the closest thing to a hi-fi vintage museum online. Keep the great videos coming.

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks! I do try to bring that sort of vibe to the channel.

  • @brucesamuelson7541
    @brucesamuelson7541 Месяц назад +2

    The visuals and high quality tactile industrial feel enhances the listening experience IMO

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад +1

      Completely agree. If it were bland, just would not elicit quite the same experience.

  • @mikecampbell5856
    @mikecampbell5856 Месяц назад +4

    I also used to go into stereo stores in the 70s and just look at the beautiful silver faced gear. In 1978 the Navy Exchange in Japan had every monster receiver ever made and me and some of my ship mates would look at them and touch every button. I think Marantz Silver Face receivers like my 2220b are the most beautiful units ever made. My Sansui 5050 is also very pretty and has a great tuner. Sansui prided themselves on their tuners. Their high end tuners and receivers had IF wide narrow bandwidth selection that is in demand in the FM DXer groups. I really enjoyed this video!

    • @AudioGuyBrian
      @AudioGuyBrian Месяц назад +1

      I can vouch for that. I have a Sansui Receiver that picks up more FM stations clearly with NO antenna even hooked up to it, versus some of my other gear with powered antennas on them.

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад +1

      The Sansui TU-9900, for me, is one of the best tuners ever made for looks and performance.

    • @MarkMiller-i8q
      @MarkMiller-i8q Месяц назад

      @@stereoniche I agree. Analogue tuners look much cooler than the later digital models. I had a Yamaha T-1 that went bad. Then I bought the Yamaha T-70, one of their first digital models. Not bad, but I prefer the aesthetics of the T-1.

    • @mikecampbell5856
      @mikecampbell5856 Месяц назад

      @@AudioGuyBrian I had my 5050 in the basement at my old house and it picked up a weak local station that some of my receivers couldn't pick up well on an outdoor antenna.

  • @analoglooney
    @analoglooney Месяц назад +3

    Interesting how the market in the USA vs the UK differed wildly in the 70's. The big receiver thing never really flew in the UK as the stations were limited to the BBC and the mags were very hostile to the Japanese products, sometimes rightly so, other times not. The big national shops stocked the Japanese low to midrange gear a lot but the small specialist dealers never got on board. It was Quad, Leak, Lecson, Linn, Naim, Thorens, Lenco, Garrard, Revox etc. Shure cartridges were the 'go to' along with Stanton and ADC. Mcintosh and Harman Kardon Citation were almost a legendary thing that was only available at the time through Unilet in London and widly expensive due to the VAT laws back then. Technics done well in the UK though as did Pioneer's PL12D turntable.

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for commenting on the UK market in those days. The Pioneer PL-12D seemed to be popular everywhere. :-)

    • @analoglooney
      @analoglooney Месяц назад

      @@stereoniche You're welcome. Yes the PL12d was a winner, and was almost certainly responsible for the demise of Garrard.👍

  • @brunoprimas1483
    @brunoprimas1483 Месяц назад +2

    Late 60s/early 70s gear for me. Pioneer and Sansui are at the top of my list for looks and sound.

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад +1

      I recently acquired an early Pioneer tube unit that is unlike others I have seen. An SM-G205. Needs some cosmetic work, but could be a fun winter project.

  • @Pksparty2112
    @Pksparty2112 Месяц назад +2

    I’ve heard people say that the 2215 was Marantz’s best sounding receiver. Example of less in the signal path.

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад

      It does seem to have many fans.

  • @solarrobot
    @solarrobot Месяц назад +2

    Great video!

  • @AmirAmir-ue6ld
    @AmirAmir-ue6ld Месяц назад +1

    Exceptional, great video. I enjoyed it very much and your thought and materials are in my mind too. I am a vintage stereo fan/ collector, and will follow your videos more closely. Good luck.

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад

      Thanks so much for watching, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @stevezeidman7224
    @stevezeidman7224 Месяц назад +1

    Always love to see your collection, Scott. I enjoyed the historical tour.

  • @ccadp1219
    @ccadp1219 Месяц назад +1

    Nice video Mike… very interesting information 👍

  • @saltywalt57
    @saltywalt57 Месяц назад +1

    Correction:The 1st Marantz receiver was the model 18 in 1968.

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад

      Darn it, missed it by a year! 🙂 Well, how about, it is the first model that took on the design aesthetic for the 70's.

    • @saltywalt57
      @saltywalt57 Месяц назад

      @stereoniche model 18, 19, 20, 22, 23, 25 all looked the same. As I recall, model 18 made in Long Island, model 19 made in Sun Valley, after that, all made in Japan. I used to know the guy who hand soldered model 19. BTW, all models had same preamp board as model 32.

  • @MarkMiller-i8q
    @MarkMiller-i8q Месяц назад +2

    Marantz and McIntosh - and I'll include Luxman also - produced some of the best looking gear in audio. They are true classics of industrial design. As a cyclist who rides vintage road bikes, I appreciate the aesthetics of vintage, lug steel frames compared with the bland, carbon fiber frames of today.

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад

      Great industrial design is certainly artistic and extends itself to other areas, indeed. There was a lot of interesting designs in early floor and table top radios, cars certainly, even kitchen appliances.

  • @JayRCela
    @JayRCela Месяц назад +2

    Hi Mike, I enjoyed this video quite a bit. I would like to mention the closing statement about the rather Odd Ball 1984-85 Marantz golden faced stuff. Ha....ha, it was good equipment, but it sure was tacky looking. LOL / thanks for the video.

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад

      Thanks Steve! Yeah, that gold of the 80's seemed to be a bit too late for the "disco" era it seemed to emulate. I would like to find a piece or two just to see it firsthand.

  • @bacarandii
    @bacarandii Месяц назад

    Thanks so much for the delightful tour! We have similar collecting priorities and shared memories of encountering these stunning pieces in magazines, "stereo stores" and showrooms. For my money, hi-fi gear from about 1970-1979 was built better and looked cooler than such equipment ever would again (I was at an impressionable age -- my teens -- at the time!). I guess that's why vintage fans call the '70s the "golden age" of home audio. Nothing can equal it in terms of sound quality for many times the price, and for my taste there have never been pieces as beautifully designed as some of the legendary Sansui, Marantz, Pioneer, Harman-Kardon, McIntosh, Sony, Yamaha, Kenwood, Onkyo, Technics, Luxman and Sherwood receivers and amps (integrated and separates) from that era -- before manufacturers started cutting corners and aiming for the mass consumer market.
    Personally, I'm a big fan of Pioneer's "blue" X80 series (and X90 with the black dials!), which for me has a slight edge in looks over the all-silver X50 series. Among my own favorite pieces to look at (as well as listen to): The Fisher 500C (tube, 1965), McIntosh C28/M2505 (1970-75), Harman-Kardon 430 (1976), Marantz 2275 (1975-77, with the larger dial than the 22X0 series), Yamaha CR-2020 (1977-80), Sansui 8080 [DB] (1975-79) and Sony STR-6050 (1969) and STR-VX series (1978), with those uniquely narrow aqua-green dial lights.

  • @PigVirusNBC
    @PigVirusNBC Месяц назад +1

    What a time which I’m glad most of us got to experience! Especially now that most of the hi-fi shops being gone. Here in NJ I used to go to Tech Hi-Fi in Eatontown. Being a former audio electronics technician I now collect vintage audio and repair it for my own use. I can blame my uncle for the Hi-Fi bug in 1970 as a young kid. He had came home from Vietnam war and got some gear from the PX Exchange in Okinawa, Japan. At the end of the 70’s I started getting my own gear and the rest is history 😂😂.

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад

      Indeed. It was certainly the "golden era" of audio gear. I think mainly because it was the primary entertainment in all our homes. A cool stereo made you cool by association. Later years, our entertainment became fragmented with computers, personal audio, game systems, etc..

  • @crisquimicafacil1886
    @crisquimicafacil1886 Месяц назад

    Hi Mike! I liked very much of your discussion about the aesthetic of big brands over time! I think nowadays the equipment does not have its own identity! they are similar to cars, that is, they are all the same! Congratulations for this video!!!

  • @brez-ed9dd
    @brez-ed9dd Месяц назад +1

    thank you very much for doing such a fantastic job, in describing all these different models.
    And you do it with class .👍🏻

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад

      Thanks for commenting and watching!

  • @dynodon9182
    @dynodon9182 Месяц назад

    I sold stereo equipment in SoCal 1976-1977. We sold all the Japanese biggies. Marantz, Pioneer, Kenwood, Sansui. It was great audio porn to turn the store lights off at night and watch the lit receivers. The Marantz cassette decks were especially colorful.

  • @backfreedom8232
    @backfreedom8232 Месяц назад +3

    what? no Sansui 5000X? when the dial was lit up, the most beautiful receiver of the 70's, imho

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад +1

      Well, my 4000 almost made it. I had it sitting on a table just 3 feet away from the rack.

    • @stevezeidman7224
      @stevezeidman7224 Месяц назад +1

      I’ve got a 5000. It’s a great looking piece. I kinda like the FM dial only lights when you select it.

  • @ethimself5064
    @ethimself5064 Месяц назад +1

    Perhaps you can help me out on something - Back in the day(76 - 81) I had 3 sets of mid priced quality headphones, the type that covered one's entire ears. At one point I covered the ear speakers and compressed them towards my ears. Suprise suprise, The bass produced much lower frequencies than I though possible all things considered. From what I remember they cleanly reproduced frequencies down to about 45 Hz or so. Have you or others experienced this and better yet, know how this happens? Remember that the speaker assembly is perhaps 3.5 - 4 inches. To this day I simply have not figured this out nor have I had any explanation on how this works

    • @Mrsteve4761
      @Mrsteve4761 Месяц назад

      And now consider that IEMs with their tiny diaphragm can reproduce bass superbly well too.

    • @ethimself5064
      @ethimself5064 Месяц назад

      @@Mrsteve4761 I mentioned when pressed against one's ears

    • @Mrsteve4761
      @Mrsteve4761 Месяц назад +1

      My comment was in reference to the size of the drivers being small and yet able to reproduce bass (you mention 3.5-4in). Pressing drivers to the ears causes a tighter coupling (acoustic seal) to the ear drum, which is critical to IEMs sealing to the ear canal to reproduce low bass.

    • @ethimself5064
      @ethimself5064 Месяц назад

      @@Mrsteve4761 I was talking about vintage headphones(covered) and why this is so. Different technology. Curious how low can IMFs go in reality - I guess with a +/- Db roll off. I have never used any and any searches I did were basically useless for low frequencies. Thanks for getting back

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад +1

      Hi there. Well, up front, I would say I do not know the answer. However, it seems as though by pressing them more firmly against your ears, you may have just isolated the music moreso from the outside noise, so you were able to hear more of the frequency range they were able to produce. Similar to how different Noise Cancelling headphones can sound once the cancellation is initiated.

  • @jeffbranch8072
    @jeffbranch8072 Месяц назад

    I'm an engineer (automotive electronics) and solid state analog was my "first love" even though I was in college early-to-late 1980's when the digital age was already in full swing. Getting out my old stuff again and getting into "vintage audio" brought back a lot of this interest in analog again. (The universe is analog, digital is artificial.) I also like the styling, including console stereos of the 1960's with electronics and furniture both in one fascinating package. I'm partial to the Pioneer X3X series since that's my first stereo, and had it recently restored to spec. The original blue dial lighting is just perfect and LED of any color only ruins the looks. I had to put incandescent lamps back in (dial lamps only). This year I bought a Harman/Kardon 330B and Sansui 661 and just love the styling of each of these as well. Although, the Sansui model name font appears as though it was made with a 1970's label maker. Hahaha! I don't have any (yet), but I find some of the Heathkit components and those of their Benton Harbor neighbors, Voice of Music, to be absolutely classy and gorgeous - real eye candy. I have to believe that there was some kind of behind the scenes collaboration there, or at least people moving from one to the other.

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад +1

      It is a relatively small industry (audio), so it is quite possible inter-collaboration was going on. Even if to just share some costs, perhaps.

    • @jeffbranch8072
      @jeffbranch8072 Месяц назад +1

      @@stereoniche , I noticed on one V-M receiver that the Treble knob doubled as the power switch. Who else other than Heathkit did that? Since V-M was known for record changers I suspect that assembly of receivers, tuners, and amps was subcontracted to Heath Co.?

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад

      @@jeffbranch8072 There were a couple of large turntable manufacturers that cranked out a ton of tables for other companies that were not able to just jump into the arena and manufacture their own. Not sure if V-M made their own or not. I also cannot recall ANYONE using a combo treble/power switch. Several had a combo power/volume though that could be problematic over time.

  • @pervertedalchemist9944
    @pervertedalchemist9944 Месяц назад +4

    Yamaha didn't really change much over the decades. Im fact: You could pair their old gear with their new ones and no one would blink an eye.

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад

      They were quite consistent. They did have their interesting glowing button phase on some separates, but they were certainly not as adventurous as Sansui.

    • @greymatter6834
      @greymatter6834 Месяц назад

      I agree.
      Yamaha has been linear more often than not.
      I like the consistency of the identity of Yamaha.
      Had many silver ones over the years. Solid as Japanese design emits.
      In hindsight I wish Toyota had gotten into audio as well.
      I drive a Yota cruiser and ride a Yamaha 4 wheeler. 🔊

    • @danielduesentriebjunior
      @danielduesentriebjunior Месяц назад

      That's true. I owned a CR-2020 receiver - a beauty.

  • @johnnytoobad7785
    @johnnytoobad7785 Месяц назад

    I always liked the "champagne" anodized-aluminum finish that SONY used in the mid 70's.
    Maybe that's why I totally restored and re-built my SONY TA2000f pre-amp. (circa 1975)
    All the knobs and switches still retain their "tactile" feel after 50 years.
    The main volume pot is sealed and still quiet.

    • @analoglooney
      @analoglooney Месяц назад

      I always thought that the Sony stuff sounded better than most too. The TA1150 was a great little amplifier.

  • @dandinhofer9240
    @dandinhofer9240 Месяц назад

    There's little aesthetic design excellence (compared to Japanese & German) in today's components. We were inspired to appreciate good design and innovation in the late 70's mostly by word of mouth. Today's hideously bland rectangular hifi boxes hold no visual stimulus, and are insanely priced, so what do dealers do? The blabber on about inflation, exchange rates and diminish market share, but avoid the one thing that we all are so devoted about. Beautiful faceplates, tough reliability and fantastic reliability, serviceability. The current state of HiFi is really in the dumps. Good topic! Thanks.

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад

      It really has gotten quite bland with the "graphical interface" for most things now.

  • @clausolsen856
    @clausolsen856 Месяц назад

    Here's a question:
    How do you manufacture "vintage audio"?🙃
    Fun aside, as usually very good video🤘

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад

      LOL, well, with a time machine, of course!

    • @clausolsen856
      @clausolsen856 Месяц назад

      @stereoniche 🤣🙃

  • @VINTAGEO
    @VINTAGEO Месяц назад +1

    Thanks for this video, some interesting points of view! I love most of the vintage stuff! BTW my username is pronounced Vin-taj-e-o, helps if you use an old world Italian accent, lol No I'm not Italian :) Cheers!

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад +1

      LOL, I was struggling with how it should be pronounced, obviously! A bit of Italiano, eh? 🙂

  • @kellywilson2858
    @kellywilson2858 Месяц назад

    I have always found the visual aspects of audio equipment to be just as important as the sound. For me it's 50 / 50. I always loved the look of the 70's gear and sadly find the modern boutique equipment to all look very boring.

  • @jbponzi1
    @jbponzi1 Месяц назад

    Wood grain.

  • @ladronsiman1471
    @ladronsiman1471 Месяц назад +1

    Ok just staring to watch ..What do you have i may like ? Knobs ,Vu meters and switches were what now yougsters call now GUI

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад

      If you want a lot of knobs, meters, switches, check out the Sansui QRX-9001, that should do it. 🙂

    • @ladronsiman1471
      @ladronsiman1471 Месяц назад

      @@stereoniche i dont have that one buy i have Pioneer and other Quadraphonic and the 7000 from Sansui ..I love them .but is a pain in the butt to restore .Too many expensive parts needed ..I have the Sansui au-999 it has plenty of knobs ,switches etc.. you feel like a pilot driving a big aircraft

    • @sidesup8286
      @sidesup8286 Месяц назад

      If you like a lot of knobs and switches, the Carver C 4000 is one of the frontrunners. One of the Sequerra tuners also. Seeing beauty in knobs and switches though? Hmm. If I saw a nice looking piece of audio gear at a used store and it looked great but I knew I wouldn't use it hardly ever, because I have more sophisticated stuff. Would I shell out $100? Nope! If it was a beautiful painting which had beauty and complexity that you never get tired of looking at it, and it evokes real emotion; THEN I would pay $100 or multiples of that to look at it. My stereo listening is sometimes accompanied by a light show in the dark. Swirling, moving, changing, morphing, changing colors, shapes, and rhythms and patterns.on the ceiling and walls. Now that's something to really behold and enjoy looking at. For me looking at a piece of manufacture that just sits there and looks the same all the time isn't how I'd spend my money. With capacitors drying up and other things as each year of time degrades it internally. Some of us really know how to have fun, but to each his own I guess

    • @ladronsiman1471
      @ladronsiman1471 Месяц назад

      @@sidesup8286 So you mean .You rathet have a GUI on an LCD ,that will also fail regardless ,Some have the worst caps ever

  • @michellevey9608
    @michellevey9608 Месяц назад

    I collect also, but obviously l'm limited by money and you're not! Your channel seems like bragging to me. I could have all your stuff also if l also had a zillion dollars! Do you even work anymore?

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад

      I work a full time job, but I am also an experienced collector. Although it did take some initial investment to start, all of my collection is paid for by what I have managed to sell over the years.

  • @AudioGuyBrian
    @AudioGuyBrian Месяц назад

    Never cared for the look or sound of Marantz. Overrated gear on a massive scale.

    • @stereoniche
      @stereoniche  Месяц назад +1

      As with all gear, different design and sound signatures appeal to each of us differently.

    • @analoglooney
      @analoglooney Месяц назад +1

      I never saw or heard much of the 70's Marantz in the UK. I don't care for the look either oddly. The 80's Marantz, apart from their CD Players was almost unsellable. The NAD ate it alive.