Make the machine twice as high, mirror the head mechanism, and have the Laserdiscs inserted upside down with a little chauffeur robot to pull it from the top to the spindle. P I O N E E R
Now I'm actually wondering if this disc might have had an audio part. Never tried to put it in my CD player back in the days, but it was quite common to have the game music on the disc as CDDA then.
@@berndbrotify Holy shit I remember this! I only ever found this out as a kid because one of my PS2 games failed and would only play as a CD through the music player. Blew my damn mind back then that something that held a *whole game* could also just *be* a CD, lol.
"audiophiles don't like me because I say things like this: it sounds good" Hitting way too close to home there. Some act like you can't think anything sounds good unless your cheapest audio component is $20,000 speaker wire and demand your audiophile card.
The sad thing is that unless they're very wealthy they must cheap out on more important things. Imagine eating tasteless store brand breakfast cereal in order to afford audiophile gear!
I consider myself a budget audiophile. My set up was only a couple of thousand dollars. I got into it through Zreviews though, cables are snake oil and Sony's HiRes gimmick is just that.
@@Adam-qs5ir That's still about 80% more than it's objectively worth, but each to their own. A subscription to Tidal or buying hi-res audio files is about as much as I'm willing to spend. I might pay a fee to listen to some music in a fully kitted out listening room, but I'd treat that no differently than a trip to the cinema.
@@donaloflynn The problem is that most people dont understand how pricy vinyl is if you want it to actually sound good. 20.000$ is over the top, but theres still a staggering amount of people buying Crosley/Victrola and then making the judgement Vinyl ALWAYS sounds like crap. You can spend way too less like spending way too much. And the whole low end player thing is inexcusable when you can inform yourself and more than half of the internet is telling you youre better off with no player at all than one of these. (If you can even call it lowend, ironically someone compared a 70s Fish Price Toyplayer to the Suitcases and it turned out the one thats SUPPOSED to be a toy was better)
Eight Coins I don’t understand why any Audiophile would use vinyl in the first place. Tape or digital (the latter being infinitely more practical and cost effective these days) are capable of far higher frequency response and resolution. Vinyl is good for just two things, the physical experience of using it and the large album art.
"It fails to actually solve a problem in a meaningful way". * Designer of the unit sitting at his computer watching this with a tear running down his cheek. *
Those things where so bizarre. I think Phillips made them? VHS recorder, DVD player (recorder as well I think?) that could also play bluray. Cost more then a sperate cheap VCR and bluray/dvd combo....
I gotta say, out of all of the channels i've ever accidentally discovered from random suggestions i think your channel might be like, legitimately the best one. Your quality never changes, your topics are always at least mildly interesting and your jokes seem to land every time. I hope you stick around for a long time.
Has "audiophile" become such a bad word? I've considered myself an audiophile just not an insufferable one, I enjoy getting great audio and finding way to get great audio, but I don't get all judgemental about it and I enjoy music as it comes out from a simple bt speaker or whatever it's in reach. Also a friend right now asked me for advice on a new pair of earbuds and I suggested the 2 simplest sony ones because, she wants something cheap, with good isolation and small. I don't I guess i should call myself an audio enthusiast from now on?
@@walkinmn Hey, if you can reclaim "audiophile" for good, do it! I think it just gets a bad rap because there are some who seem to worship and chase sound quality regardless of cost or perceptible quality. It's nice to have the opinion of someone knowledgeable, so as long as you aren't a crazy, I'd say stick with the label audiophile.
@@walkinmn It's mostly a matter of some audiophiles making public asses of themselves with pseudoscience and the odd bit of very expensive gatekeeping/snobbery.
I remember when these came out and wondered "Why?" But then as now, a lot of people bought stuff based on price and space. Two in one and Three in one components were big sellers in the late 70s through the late 80s, they were cheap and saved space. Kids going to college loved them. Now we have three in one printers-scanner-fax machines. Oh, and we mustn't forget phones that also take pictures!
They record video too, and audio! But they don't play vinyl or CD's (VLC player, OTG adapter, USB CD/DVD optical drive, DC adapter, yes, you can play CD's or DVD's).
@@MACTEP_CHOB It's very useful & doesn't look bad, and I don't usually buy or use services that look bad - a fax is usually medical or business-related, so it has to be good and it works pretty well.
When I was at music college, one of my lecturers remarked that the era of analogue audio was almost exactly a century: Edison’s first public demonstration of his wax cylinders was in 1879; the first demonstration of the compact disc was in 1979-although in each case the technology took a few years to make it to the consumer market.
Top-loading CD changers were a thing simply because they were meant to go in the space where the turntable used to be, and since most people were getting rid of records entirely, they'd be left with a big empty space on top.
I have a physics degree and your channel is the most relaxing application of all the random crap I have learned in my electronics classes, thanks for the great work!
I own this! I'm listening to a vinyl record as I type this. I inherited from my uncle who unfortunately passed a few months earlier. I've been looking around for more information on this. I love this thing. I'm so glad I could keep this in the family. My uncle had a bunch of operas on vinyl records from years ago. Great condition. Thank you for this video. Brings a smile to my face. Makes me smile when I think of my late uncle.
I think that is the point Alec missed. How many of those Operas were available on CD when this came out, and if they were how much would they have cost to buy? In 1989 ten CDs cost as much as a Philips CD player. I know because that was when I bought my first one.
I was in high school when this came out and I can say: I still wanted a record player, because I had records CD changers were an incredible technology A component system, or semi-component systems, were basically the standard at that time. The alternative was still a "boom box" with a separate record player
@@masonharris9166get this man ratioed honestly if you want to write fast you dont need punctuation if it's just casual in fact instead of saying x and z i say x, z
As soon as I saw the actual product I started wracking my brain for why it looked so familiar! Everything about it except the offset CD arm and the record arm were known. We already had a separate phonograph player, so I knew we didn't have this one, but the moment you showed the model without that it clicked -- my dad had that very model in our house growing up! I remember it greatly! It also uh, had a LOT of issues with slightly scratched disks. And JUST like yours, it had that same bug about spinning past the correct position, sometimes several times in a row, so either that's a common flaw or simply prevalent on all of these. And yes, the two players were wide by side on the hi-fi cart. I do think ours had a blue VFD however, or am I completely misremembering on that model? Thanks for doing this!
The blue VFD sounds a bit odd as fisher seemed to like orange, but its not wrong as when i was young my dad has a fisher component stack in our garage that used Blue as its displays. ours also had a CD changer top load, that did that same op i need to spin the disc 5 times before i can read it thing, with ours the way i figured out that seemed to avoid the problem was to make it read an empty spot, weird right. When it read an empty spot it would stop read realize there's nothing there then move to the next disc and just read it normally. but ours did have a different problem, it couldnt spin backwards so say its on disc 1 and you select disc 5, it has to go forward through the entire platter, which for some reason it didnt like and would have to go for a spin a couple times to make sure it was correct. but only on 5, if you selected 4, then 5 it was fine. The scratched thing i think was relatively common on early machines. guessing that early lasers where just not robust enough to over come most scratches.
At a thrift store today, I saw one of the top-loading CD changers with the same mechanism as the Fisher you showed, but it was made by Optonica. It was exactly the same, down to the 18-bit 8 times oversampling writing. I wouldn't be surprised if they made one with the turntable, too.
Fonts are either clear enough or not, so being annoyed about the latter makes sense. Audiophiles want audio that's perfectly clear to be clearer, which makes no sense, hence sensible people like Alec ridicule them!
@@amateurprogrammer25 Breathing is dangerous if you do it wrong enough. Are you going to stop breathing because it could be dangerous? The answer to that question is the same answer to why dangerous science is still in practice. It's necessary for advancement.
There's plenty of articles about how high-end gaming computers make quite efficient electric heaters. Hooking them up to a CRT should be considered a crime against nature though.
"who is this for?" Idk man ask my dad who definitely owned one of these. I know because I remember being so fascinated I would watch it play to see how it worked. I love this channel
I remember seeing one once and really wanting it. I didn't even see a CD until 1993, and my record and tape collections remained the bulk of my music until CDs came down in price much later in the 90s. It would have been really neat, I could have fit my entire CD collection in it for a couple of years.
They also could've stacked a couple of reels on top of that spindle and a angled head block on the side, so it could also double as an open reel deck :) Some designs like that actually existed in USSR in the 60's, probably in some other parts of the world too...
Phirens I hear what you're saying, but it would have been a ill-received novelty. Changers were out of vogue by the time this was made. Seriously, the autochanger had been dying an ugly death since the mid-1970s, and I'm pretty sure the last changers made were BSRs. And even by BSR standards, those last models were utter junk. The public had been seriously soured on them. Changers were viewed as cheap crap, and that's even by the people who were still rockin vinyl. As he said, by the late 1980s, it was CDs and cassettes, the turntable was just throwing a bone to those who still had record collections. The fact that later models removed the phonograph section is testament to that.
"who is this for?" Let me tel you, my PE Teacher would have loved that, to have the guided relaxation, Course-Navette audio and 80's running compilation in one place in addition to being able to make us awkwardly dance to a vinyl record of Spandau Ballet... All in one place!
I have only ever had a single CD that used indexes, and it was specifically a "welcome to the world of digital audio!" demo disc that existed to show off CDs.
I had a Phantom of the Opera CD set where each disk/act was just a single track with indexes. I think that was a workaround for those rare CD players that always added a gap between tracks (though with a spiral track they _really_ shouldn't as it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to do so). It was an especially crummy workaround as many later model CD players couldn't skip to an index point. I hated that Phantom set, and should have got the Toronto cast version as it had a track per scene as god intended, plus "Yay, Canada!" (where I'm from).
Back in 1989, radio WMSE had a half busted Sanyo (I think) consumer grade CD player that allowed one to actually navigate the index system. It worked, just sort of useless. I have only come across two CDs that used them, and disappeared when they were reissued.
This reminds me of those cassette players that would actually flip the cassette over to play the other side, interesting conversation pieces from an engineering standpoint, but not from having to get it fixed.
Those had a need to fix, the recording heads are only two track, so for auto reverse to work you would either flip the head, flip the tape or forgo automatic reverse, in a play only device you can just use a four track head, but a recordable device not really gonna happen, in the early days they would use flip the tape, later flip the head, nakamichi however decided to go with flip the tape due to fears the heads could eventually fall out of alignment.
@@compzac You could always displace the recording head instead, and use the four track head the same way. That would require a special, narrower, recording head that could be moved around sideways, but no big deal. After all, the recording head is just a magnet to erase the tape, and it is the play head that actually does the recording.
Wow, I’m not sure if you’ll see this comment but I got into a car accident 2 weeks ago and was lucky enough to find your channel in that time. Since then I’ve binge watched almost EVERY video you’ve released and have been not only fascinated, but highly entertained and impressed by your ability to explain and demonstrate deeply technical concepts. Once I get back to work in another few weeks you can guarantee me as a faithful patron supporter. Keep it up, I simply LOVE each new video I watch from your channel. I’m going back to school for Computer/electrical engineering and this type of content is EXACTLY what gets me going!!! Thank you so much for all you do.
16:45 - Not an audiophile, indeed! The samples provided are almost painful to listen to! There's noticeable high-frequency treybal throughout, loss of gamble in the midrange, and the voice tannor is torqued enough with spoken words that I shudder to think what it would do to actual singing. _Any_ _resemblance_ _of_ _the_ _preceding_ _statement_ _to_ _actual_ _audio_ _concepts_ _is_ _purely_ _coincidental_ .
Honestly, if you added a few more fluffy, nonsensical words you could probably write an article for a hi-fi mag. I have a fairly nice hi-fi and do enjoy good sound quality but, by and large, audiophiles drive me up a wall. I didn't realize people could sap the fun out of a hobby so quickly but read any audio forum for a bit and you'll see. It's like a Ford vs. Chevy argument but even dumber as it's just a bunch of people slap fighting about their opinions non stop.
I don't know how you do it....you could make a grain of rice super interesting. The information you give in your videos is jaw dropping. And your delivery of this information is professional, entertaining and funny. You do this with every video you make. You deserve to be a millionaire from RUclips. I am a fan of yours.....obviously.
This is one of my favorite YT channels. You seem to have the same curiosities that I had when I was trying to figure out how my parents’ audio equipment worked. You have answered several questions that I remember having as a kid about how stuff like CD players work. Anyway, this channel kicks ass and I’m gonna go join your Patreon. Keep up the excellent content!
I was a sales associate for Sanyo Fisher back in 1990 and marveled at this. Some of the better rack systems had these and they were available as a separate component. I knew then that records would always be around and admired. Studio 24, the 24 CD changer arrived after that.
16:40 Honestly based on what you just said I want to *issue* you an audiophile card. You clearly actually care about the sound you hear, not how perfect the reproduction is in ways you canʼt hear.
You are REALLY overestimating the penetration of CDs in the 80s. CDs were a lot of money in the 80s. Albums were around $8.99 and compact discs were around $19.99. Cassettes were usually a little cheaper, maybe 7.99. 45s were a major thing. Everyone had 45s. I have a shit load of 1980s 45s that I bought as a teenager in the 80s. Cassette singles didn't start taking off until the late 80s and even then they were never anywhere near as popular as the 45s were. For one, jukeboxes needed 45s, not cassingles. CD based jukeboxes were always the newest jukeboxes and were more expensive and usually cost more money to play. Because of this, 45 jukeboxes lasted a lot longer than they would have. Even in the LATE 90s, there were still a lot of 45 jukeboxes in bars and restaurants. This was sold as part of an all in one rack system. That rack system absolutely needed a phonograph. Putting them both into one component saved money. I myself bought a new record player in 1989 that I still have and use. I still own a bunch of 80s records. Granted, I don't use them that much, but they are just sitting in my stereo rack not bothering anyone.
This is true. The first CD player I ever saw in the flesh was in 1993. This was in middle class middle America. CDs were crazy expensive and CD players even more so, especially compared to cassettes. Records were still common, although had been overtaken by cassettes. Honestly, cassettes and CDs were only popular because you could use them easily in a car. I still have a turntable, but not a CD player.
First CDs where 3,500 Japanese yen (4,517.01 yen today), hence the "35DP" series of CDs from CBS/Sony Japan and the "CP35" series from Toshiba-EMI. or about $42.66 USD today. However by 1985 they were reduced to 3,200 yen, and later 2,800 yen by 1988.
In the late 80s my dad had a CD player in the component system and it was a big deal. We had like 2 CDs, the rest were cassettes and records. The number of CDs slowly increased until around 95-97 and took over.
Just wanted to mention that I really appreciate the quality of your videos. They are visually appealing and you make the subject matter genuinely interesting. Thank you for what you do.
my dad actually bought one of these in 1990-something he had acquired his dad's record collection, and he himself already had some CD's and records and just wanted a single system for both. i own this unit now, and it still works, though the belt did need replacing cause it snapped once.
I have to say I always enjoy your outtakes at the end of your videos. Most of the time I cry for laughter. This time around it was "It would UP?" and the look on your face. Keep up the awesome videos. Makes an Electronics Engineering Tech like myself enjoy someone explaining to the world how we have achieved life along side so much technology.
Yes, Americans are hilarious when they forget where their language came from... I'm surprised that they spent zero time modifying the very ugly word, 'laugh'... At least that would have been a useful change.
1:53 I heard that as "A few quartz of quantization", then saw the crystal oscillator at 1:55 and it took me far too long for my brain to work out the recipe analogy with with electrical components on the screen. That was a really strange glitch in my logic processing. And it was awesome!
What a nifty curiosity this device is. It is somewhat ironic that it probably sold poorly because people stopped buying vinyl records, and no one would buy one today because people stopped buying CDs.
This was a fun bit of history. When I was in high school, I remember my friends all putting CD changers in their cars. I finally got a 3-CD disk changer when I was in college: part of a stereo. But my stereo was not a component like this. It was a single unit. But I started out at the tail end of the record era. I had a record player. And my father bought a stereo system made of components like you describe. Yes, the main unit was called "The Fisher" and looked the like vintage ad you showed. It had lots of vacuum tubes and two giant speakers with plaid grills. He had a record player (forgot the brand) with 4 speeds on it. And there was a reel-to-reel tape player, the Tandenburg. My contribution, as a teenager, was to buy a cord to connect my cassette-playing walkman to "The Fisher". And, now, I'm content with mp3s on my laptop speakers. Where did I lose the plot?
Vinyl never disappeared from the underground scene, where music continued to be released in a format that DJs could mix. Many DJs, esp more recently, have switched to digital formats, in some music genres more than others, and this does allow for creativity in prepared sets, but vinyl is a more instant thing, where they are played more like a live instrument, with each mix being something that can be done well or totally screwed up, and so requiring loads of practice to get good, and very satisfying when able to bang something out just right. The 90s saw the rise of plenty of ecstasy fuelled music lovin', the rise of the rave scene, it wasn't small, and it was all vinyl driven.
He's featured over on Techmoan a lot too. Basically, he's the go-to for anyone showing off retro sound equipment since he doesn't care about copyright claims. Almost as if that's a really great way to spread the word about your music or something.
@@SmaMan It's worse than that. He got screwed over by distrokid making the Topic channel, which meant he couldn't monetize his own stuff on RUclips anymore at all. Go buy his stuff. He needs it.
It's easy to see some of the potential improvements that could have been made. Most important would be reducing record slip by using a star shaped rubber pad at the center and larger triangular pads between the CDs.
This device is made for the people who had record albums and wanted to also get the new CDs but didn't want to throw out their old records. Maybe they didn't have the room to do that for example, and they didn't want to chose between a record player and a CD player. We have just enough room for a CD player or a turntable so we had to pull each out and hook it up to change things. This would have been a superb unit in that location. Lots of people didn't want to buy a second copy of their music on CD so this was the best solution.
"You've seen the thumbnail and title." Technically, yes, but I already clicked the video before even reading the title. I saw you posted a video, I didn't need one of those fancy titles to know it was gonna be good. ;P If there were an option to have Chrome automatically open a new tab to your video the instant it's uploaded, I would. Superbell™ icon.
I recently found your channel & have been enjoying your videos. Your opening statement that you enjoy learning about the evolution of technologies sparked a 'connection' in my brain. Although it's an older show and you've probably already seen it, for the benefit of your viewers that may not have, I highly recommend James Burke's 'Connections' series. It maps out the evolution of technologies to show how we got to where we are now (or about 30yrs ago when the show was made) showing the sometimes strange and seemingly unrelated events that shape the evolution of technology. IE: from the ox drawn plow in ancient Egypt to the modern combine harvester. Though slightly outdated now, still a fascinating journey through history.
Actually, in the early 90s, Vinyl records were still prevalent. I can see where they *thought* this would be a good niche product. Because of the flaws discussed and the fact that Fisher products by this time had a "cheap junk" vibe, this probably did not have a huge uptake. If it sold well at all, I'd imagine it was in the rack system configuration. Rack systems were a big deal despite being all of the space requirements of components and typically none of the benefits (audiophile quality, etc.). But, hey, they looked "cool" in the Christmas catalog.
CDs only beat out record sales in the late 1980s. Cassettes held on a few more years. This made sense at the time, though probably was not very good. Those in the market for something like thing, which would have been those born before 1970, had records and would still have been listening to them. I do not know how the price compared to a regular CD player, which was expensive, but it could have served the purpose of giving you the new with the old.
"who is this for?" well, apparently for you ;-). That Vinyl-Rant had me laughing out loud to my cats. As always great vid to unwind to after a days work. Thanks!
This being released at the dawn of the 90s where the vinyl record was becoming out of fashion, perhaps was a way to place CDs on the throne of component Hi-Fi. Front loading CD players didn't show off the spinning discs like a turntable would, so in a world where people simply weren't buying turntables anymore, Fisher may have released this as a visual replacement to that. By 1990, CDs (and cassettes) had left the vinyl record in the dust, but people still had a lot of them around, so when someone in 1990 picking components for their new Hi-Fi and maybe didn't want to waste money on a turntable they would seldom use, this looks (visually and functionally) like a nice compromise. The visual appeal of visible spinning discs in a new way with the possibility of whipping out an old rekkid on the odd occasion.
"The Compact Disc was a truly revolutionary product in a number of ways. First, it spins." BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That one almost made me spit my tea all over my computer. LOL!!
Weird Al! The Poodle Hat CD!!! I love that it was one of the chosen CDs for this video. I’m also digging the Imagination Institute shirt. This is just the best channel from all the learning about odd things that I’m weirdly interested in to just your quiet shoutouts to my passions. Like Weird Al and Disney.
@@jonathansoko1085 I very well might have been, but SlipKnot is still pretty good for entery level metalheads who are just tipping their toes into the genre of metal.
11:20 I suspect the mechanical detent is used because the motor lacks actual closed loop feedback which would be necessary to stop at the correct position. You will notice the binary patters used to identify the disk positions, but there is also another trailing slot about an inch further on in the rotation from the pattern. That is where the sensor actually is when the tray stops on one of the CD positions. The sensor can read each pattern as it goes by at normal seeking speed. After is reads the correct pattern the next LOW from the sensor (the 1" section) puts it into slow mode, then the next HIGH from the sensor (the small slot) shorts the windings. The exact position of the tray will depend on the number of other disks due to different rotational inertia so the detent is a simple and cheep way to eliminate the need for more electronic accuracy. This kind of control would be very easy to program into any super cheep microcontroller that was already in there to run the display. The detent is likely activated by another cam from the same motor that raises the CD reader and moves the top clamp holding arm. It also keeps the turntable from moving when the CD is playing because shorting the motor (using it as a break) would not work without a much finer encoder. The I think the failure to seek problem is caused by a dirty sensor or flaky solder connection/trace in this circuit.
It's a shame this wasn't invented by Pioneer. They'd have figured out a way to make it play Laserdiscs, too. :)
Make the machine twice as high, mirror the head mechanism, and have the Laserdiscs inserted upside down with a little chauffeur robot to pull it from the top to the spindle. P I O N E E R
I might start collecting vinyl if it did
but not vinylS 😛
and casettes.
i hope the top locks on that model.
"The compact disc was revolutionary in many ways. Firstly, it spins"
Dying
My boy's a goddamn madman.
wouldn't it be rotational then? :P
I had to stop the video and call my mom for this joke
It's way too late and I have been laughing for 5 minutes.
for the ones who don't get it: "revolution" is what the Earth does around the Sun. essentially, it spins. like discs.
Ah yes, he featured my favorite album of the 1990s: Roller Coaster Tycoon
Now I'm actually wondering if this disc might have had an audio part. Never tried to put it in my CD player back in the days, but it was quite common to have the game music on the disc as CDDA then.
What about Rollercoaster tycoon II
Rock Style 2 was my jam.
@@berndbrotify Holy shit I remember this! I only ever found this out as a kid because one of my PS2 games failed and would only play as a CD through the music player. Blew my damn mind back then that something that held a *whole game* could also just *be* a CD, lol.
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"audiophiles don't like me because I say things like this: it sounds good"
Hitting way too close to home there. Some act like you can't think anything sounds good unless your cheapest audio component is $20,000 speaker wire and demand your audiophile card.
The sad thing is that unless they're very wealthy they must cheap out on more important things. Imagine eating tasteless store brand breakfast cereal in order to afford audiophile gear!
I consider myself a budget audiophile. My set up was only a couple of thousand dollars. I got into it through Zreviews though, cables are snake oil and Sony's HiRes gimmick is just that.
@@Adam-qs5ir That's still about 80% more than it's objectively worth, but each to their own. A subscription to Tidal or buying hi-res audio files is about as much as I'm willing to spend. I might pay a fee to listen to some music in a fully kitted out listening room, but I'd treat that no differently than a trip to the cinema.
@@donaloflynn The problem is that most people dont understand how pricy vinyl is if you want it to actually sound good. 20.000$ is over the top, but theres still a staggering amount of people buying Crosley/Victrola and then making the judgement Vinyl ALWAYS sounds like crap. You can spend way too less like spending way too much.
And the whole low end player thing is inexcusable when you can inform yourself and more than half of the internet is telling you youre better off with no player at all than one of these. (If you can even call it lowend, ironically someone compared a 70s Fish Price Toyplayer to the Suitcases and it turned out the one thats SUPPOSED to be a toy was better)
Eight Coins I don’t understand why any Audiophile would use vinyl in the first place. Tape or digital (the latter being infinitely more practical and cost effective these days) are capable of far higher frequency response and resolution. Vinyl is good for just two things, the physical experience of using it and the large album art.
"It fails to actually solve a problem in a meaningful way".
* Designer of the unit sitting at his computer watching this with a tear running down his cheek. *
Poor engineer. 'I thought it was revolutionary.'
@@Adam-qs5ir I mean, it does revolve
"Who is this for?"
You. It's for you, Alec.
And it's for us.
And Techmoan probably. In fact I'd be genuinely surprised if he hasn't got one of these
One of my co-workers would probably love this. I was on the news a few years ago he saw it, and recorded it for me... on VHS!!!
_”It’s all for YOU, DAMIEN!”_
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This is even better than the combined VHS/DVD/Bluray player I once saw.
A what now?
Pretty sure my parents have one of those. My dad complains that it doesn't support beta max
Those things where so bizarre. I think Phillips made them?
VHS recorder, DVD player (recorder as well I think?) that could also play bluray. Cost more then a sperate cheap VCR and bluray/dvd combo....
My mom has one of those. Though hers is also a DVD burner.
Id love one of those takes the place of 3 machines can make the mess of wires behind my entertainment center much cleaner lmao
"Too niche, too late and full of compromises" That seems to be a pattern on this channel.
Also pretty much the definition of life.
You know the guy that invented the second pair of underwear was named Paul Hanes 😂
_glances at RCA's selectavision_
@@paulhaynes8045 no, not really. Maybe the last two.
I gotta say, out of all of the channels i've ever accidentally discovered from random suggestions i think your channel might be like, legitimately the best one. Your quality never changes, your topics are always at least mildly interesting and your jokes seem to land every time. I hope you stick around for a long time.
I just watched 12 videos about mundane shit I don't care about. That's talent
At least mildly interesting. That is this channel in a nutshell
@@jonathansoko1085 same and I was fascinated to learn the entire time.
How to give a compliment without giving a compliment
@@jonathansoko1085 I can now go on tyrades about electric vehicles to family members. I call it a win
"It's sounds fine though" is to audiophiles as garlic is to vampires.
Leave them to their Moon-rock needles and Googolphonic speakers.
I swear with any hobby there always comes a toxic fan base that gives the other casual hobbyist a bad name.
Has "audiophile" become such a bad word? I've considered myself an audiophile just not an insufferable one, I enjoy getting great audio and finding way to get great audio, but I don't get all judgemental about it and I enjoy music as it comes out from a simple bt speaker or whatever it's in reach. Also a friend right now asked me for advice on a new pair of earbuds and I suggested the 2 simplest sony ones because, she wants something cheap, with good isolation and small. I don't I guess i should call myself an audio enthusiast from now on?
@@walkinmn Hey, if you can reclaim "audiophile" for good, do it! I think it just gets a bad rap because there are some who seem to worship and chase sound quality regardless of cost or perceptible quality. It's nice to have the opinion of someone knowledgeable, so as long as you aren't a crazy, I'd say stick with the label audiophile.
@@walkinmn It's mostly a matter of some audiophiles making public asses of themselves with pseudoscience and the odd bit of very expensive gatekeeping/snobbery.
Technology Connections: Yells at people for calling records “vinyl”
Also Technology Connections: Calls RPM “Rip’m”
AvE!
He's clearly an AvE fan judging from that word.
@@jessedunn3766 AvE "Arduino vs Everything"
Also AvE: *is a mechanical engineer that barely uses Arduino*
@@justinvzu01 Pretty sure it's "versus evil".
@@mattgies Fuck me, autocorrect. I use Everything way more often than Evil. lol
I remember when these came out and wondered "Why?" But then as now, a lot of people bought stuff based on price and space. Two in one and Three in one components were big sellers in the late 70s through the late 80s, they were cheap and saved space. Kids going to college loved them. Now we have three in one printers-scanner-fax machines. Oh, and we mustn't forget phones that also take pictures!
They record video too, and audio! But they don't play vinyl or CD's (VLC player, OTG adapter, USB CD/DVD optical drive, DC adapter, yes, you can play CD's or DVD's).
Phones that take pictures! Next you'll tell me that phones will one day be able to access the internet!
You can send fax with phone now. And it actually looks good.
@@MACTEP_CHOB It's very useful & doesn't look bad, and I don't usually buy or use services that look bad - a fax is usually medical or business-related, so it has to be good and it works pretty well.
@edd189 we do lmafao
(bloopers)
"This thing is in fact, a functional phonograph!"
PHONOGRAPH: malfunctions
Jack Sparrow impression: But, it does "function".
@@stevenclark2188 Mal-, but that's still a type of functioning.
@@Quintinohthree That's my second favorite functioning!
The hills you are prepared to die on are as entertaining as the content I originally came for
"I've been looking for a weird hill to die on, and all the real ones are too far from my house."
When I was at music college, one of my lecturers remarked that the era of analogue audio was almost exactly a century: Edison’s first public demonstration of his wax cylinders was in 1879; the first demonstration of the compact disc was in 1979-although in each case the technology took a few years to make it to the consumer market.
"Putting things on top of other things" ?!? The society flourishes!
@Presence Eternal Stop! Much too silly!!
This is no time for complacency. There are still many things (and I cannot emphasize this too strongly) NOT on top of other things!
@Presence Eternal the
@Presence Eternal o
You are certainly doubling that entandre
It was a revolutionary product, firstly it spins"
That bad of a joke should be a federal crime ;)
Thank you for pointing that out. I completely missed that one. :D
I literally had to pause the video for a while to process that ...
Music has been spinning since the hurdy-gurdy!
@@moosemaimer the joke was because he said "revolutionary" lol, even though spinning is really rotation
@@c182SkylaneRG Yea.. i got that it was a joke, like 15 seconds on... kicking me of the topic quite significantly.
Top-loading CD changers were a thing simply because they were meant to go in the space where the turntable used to be, and since most people were getting rid of records entirely, they'd be left with a big empty space on top.
12:08 This man really do be putting a RollerCoaster Tycoon CD-ROM in a CD changer.
It really do be a great game tho
Rollercoaster tycoon on da fisher 😳
How will it sound?
Maybe it's one of those games where it plays the soundtrack when you try to play it like this.
@@cameron7374 Yep, many CD games from that era used redbook audio for background music.
@@cameron7374 it is
The pedantry knob is on 11 today, and that's why I'm here
Who are you calling a knob?
@@benholroyd5221 take off, ya hoser
I appreciate the passive aggression towards audiophiles
Not even passive-aggressive, just straight-up aggressive. 😹
Hey, man, glad I could bring it to your attention!
"I know you've seen the title and thumbnail"
No, I just saw new Technology Connections video.
I have a physics degree and your channel is the most relaxing application of all the random crap I have learned in my electronics classes, thanks for the great work!
I own this! I'm listening to a vinyl record as I type this. I inherited from my uncle who unfortunately passed a few months earlier.
I've been looking around for more information on this. I love this thing. I'm so glad I could keep this in the family. My uncle had a bunch of operas on vinyl records from years ago. Great condition.
Thank you for this video. Brings a smile to my face. Makes me smile when I think of my late uncle.
I think that is the point Alec missed. How many of those Operas were available on CD when this came out, and if they were how much would they have cost to buy? In 1989 ten CDs cost as much as a Philips CD player. I know because that was when I bought my first one.
I envyyyy you !!!!
@@crispindry2815 Do you need a record of my birth certificate?
@@crispindry2815 don't be that guy
.....,
A player that plays CDs and LPs? SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
I want one and I don't even own any cd's or records.
I deadass can't find one anywhere.
Imagine, if someone made a modern version of this with a tray-loading mechanism.
That would be friggin' awesome!
If it would play DVD, CD and LP and has proper output as in RCA, 3.5'' jack and HDMI... I'd fucking buy it.
Pretty sure we owned one of these back in the day. It was just left in our house that we moved into.😂 It was either the one with just the CDs or this.
If you've ever peeled white glue off your fingers, that is also a vinyl record lol
exactly, the term isn't specific enough to get tight about lol
right... the glue is polyvinyl /acetate/ rather than /chloride/ so it's still vinyl
this is more funny than it should be
That's the exact kind of interesting device I would love to own and never actually use!
"Boy, I have this almost half-dozen of CDs that I want to listen to right now, consecutively... but what about my one record too?!"
That's my exact problem!
i have about 500 CDs and 15 vinyl records. this would fix my problem
Hey yeah, why doesn't it have a record changer?
I was in high school when this came out and I can say:
I still wanted a record player, because I had records
CD changers were an incredible technology
A component system, or semi-component systems, were basically the standard at that time. The alternative was still a "boom box" with a separate record player
You used colons, commas, and hyphens but have apparently never heard of a period.
@@masonharris9166get this man ratioed
honestly if you want to write fast you dont need punctuation if it's just casual
in fact instead of saying x and z i say x, z
"Ok, we're gonna turn you off and on again."
Tech support liked that.
As soon as I saw the actual product I started wracking my brain for why it looked so familiar! Everything about it except the offset CD arm and the record arm were known. We already had a separate phonograph player, so I knew we didn't have this one, but the moment you showed the model without that it clicked -- my dad had that very model in our house growing up! I remember it greatly! It also uh, had a LOT of issues with slightly scratched disks. And JUST like yours, it had that same bug about spinning past the correct position, sometimes several times in a row, so either that's a common flaw or simply prevalent on all of these. And yes, the two players were wide by side on the hi-fi cart. I do think ours had a blue VFD however, or am I completely misremembering on that model?
Thanks for doing this!
I was like man that looks a lot like the Fisher stereo i have, then he showed the CD only model and yep thats it!
The blue VFD sounds a bit odd as fisher seemed to like orange, but its not wrong as when i was young my dad has a fisher component stack in our garage that used Blue as its displays. ours also had a CD changer top load, that did that same op i need to spin the disc 5 times before i can read it thing, with ours the way i figured out that seemed to avoid the problem was to make it read an empty spot, weird right. When it read an empty spot it would stop read realize there's nothing there then move to the next disc and just read it normally. but ours did have a different problem, it couldnt spin backwards so say its on disc 1 and you select disc 5, it has to go forward through the entire platter, which for some reason it didnt like and would have to go for a spin a couple times to make sure it was correct. but only on 5, if you selected 4, then 5 it was fine. The scratched thing i think was relatively common on early machines. guessing that early lasers where just not robust enough to over come most scratches.
At a thrift store today, I saw one of the top-loading CD changers with the same mechanism as the Fisher you showed, but it was made by Optonica. It was exactly the same, down to the 18-bit 8 times oversampling writing. I wouldn't be surprised if they made one with the turntable, too.
That is called badge engineering
@@iscmiscm aka litterally copying homework from other companies
@@tomikun8057 more like the other company giving you their homework
@@12gauge_shawtyyand you taking credit for it.
He's not an audiophile, but he IS one of those people who obsess over fonts! ;)
He is, Allah forgive me, a fontophile
He's pedantic in all the ways that don't break his wallet.
@@dragonkyng word "typophile" exists %)
***TYPEFACES***
Fonts are either clear enough or not, so being annoyed about the latter makes sense. Audiophiles want audio that's perfectly clear to be clearer, which makes no sense, hence sensible people like Alec ridicule them!
"Would you like a ton of dust in your CD player, if so, buy this!"
That's why you put the dust cover down. ;v
“Those models required their buyers to value flashy design more than they do practical considerations.”
Good thing no one does that. 😂
The question is not "why?", the question is "why not?"
WHY is so much of our science dangerous? Why not marry safe science if you love it so much?
@@amateurprogrammer25 Because pretty much everything is dangerous.
@@amateurprogrammer25 Breathing is dangerous if you do it wrong enough. Are you going to stop breathing because it could be dangerous? The answer to that question is the same answer to why dangerous science is still in practice. It's necessary for advancement.
that was a videogame reference by the way
@@amateurprogrammer25 Ah, probably one I either haven't played or haven't played in a while.
Next up:
A toaster combined with a HD DVD player with an integrated CRT display
Sounds like an AMD Phenom x4 laptop to me. 😎🍸
That gives me an idea... if I convert some DVD/VCR combo to HD-DVD/Beta VCR combo...
There's plenty of articles about how high-end gaming computers make quite efficient electric heaters. Hooking them up to a CRT should be considered a crime against nature though.
Lttlemoi What would be an inefficient electric heater
@@LttlemoiFYI, modern gaming on a CRT isn't too bad, especially if you have a widescreen crt with digital inputs, that also supports higher framerates
"it's a truly revolutionary technology. Firstly, it spins" really underrated joke
"Tray table in the full, upright position" ?!? That just flew past.....
I had to go back to listen again to see if what I heard was right lol
I caught that. It got a chuckle. :) I love flying, though.
Insert Wierd Al reference here
Yes Albuquerque! Weird Al is the best. Saw him in concert twice and it was the best.
Scrolled down here to check the comments whether someone else caught that. Phew!
"The sight of 5 CDs going for a spin at 45 RPM is mighty hilarious."
I really don't know why, but it actually is. XD
I didn't think much about it until he actually said it, then I started laughing!
I liked the one CD going for a spin and being reflected in the underside of the lid at 9:15
Alec stepping out of a time machine: Ooh that garage sale has a lot of records for sale!
"who is this for?"
Idk man ask my dad who definitely owned one of these. I know because I remember being so fascinated I would watch it play to see how it worked. I love this channel
I remember seeing one once and really wanting it. I didn't even see a CD until 1993, and my record and tape collections remained the bulk of my music until CDs came down in price much later in the 90s. It would have been really neat, I could have fit my entire CD collection in it for a couple of years.
@@sunyavadin MAY I recommend some nice
science-channel to you? Just because, well, the learning never ends, duh?
"Tray table in the full upright position"
I saw that Weird Al CD. I know what you did.
That's still one of my favorite songs. Glad others got it too.
@@travisdelee8647 same here
IN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALBUQUERQUE!
Timecode?
A...L...B...U...QUERQUE
"It fails to solve a problem in a meaningful way."
Oh how little you understand the '90s!
I feel like they missed a trick by not also including a '70s style record changer mechanism.
It could have been a CD-Changer-Record-Changer
CD-Record-Changer-Changer
A record changing cd changer
They also could've stacked a couple of reels on top of that spindle and a angled head block on the side, so it could also double as an open reel deck :)
Some designs like that actually existed in USSR in the 60's, probably in some other parts of the world too...
Phirens I hear what you're saying, but it would have been a ill-received novelty. Changers were out of vogue by the time this was made. Seriously, the autochanger had been dying an ugly death since the mid-1970s, and I'm pretty sure the last changers made were BSRs. And even by BSR standards, those last models were utter junk. The public had been seriously soured on them. Changers were viewed as cheap crap, and that's even by the people who were still rockin vinyl. As he said, by the late 1980s, it was CDs and cassettes, the turntable was just throwing a bone to those who still had record collections. The fact that later models removed the phonograph section is testament to that.
"who is this for?" Let me tel you, my PE Teacher would have loved that, to have the guided relaxation, Course-Navette audio and 80's running compilation in one place in addition to being able to make us awkwardly dance to a vinyl record of Spandau Ballet... All in one place!
A modern version of this with bluetooth and aux in as well as digital outs would be AMAZING. I would 1000% buy that in 2020
TC: dislikes pedantic audiophiles
also TC: they're not called *_vinyls_*
TC: "It's Vinyl not Vinyls!"
also TC: "Rippums and Analagway"
@@CrashFu Ummm sweaty, I'm sorry to say but that's proper terms in the engineering world.
@@theman5887 did you mean sweety?
@@CircuitrinosOfficial that's probably the joke
@@CircuitrinosOfficial No
Anders Jensen's Discovision is a perfect feature for this video...
Man I must love Star Trek. When I heard you say "It could take up to a dozen times for it to engage the transport.", I swore you had said transwarp.
I have only ever had a single CD that used indexes, and it was specifically a "welcome to the world of digital audio!" demo disc that existed to show off CDs.
I had a Phantom of the Opera CD set where each disk/act was just a single track with indexes. I think that was a workaround for those rare CD players that always added a gap between tracks (though with a spiral track they _really_ shouldn't as it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to do so). It was an especially crummy workaround as many later model CD players couldn't skip to an index point. I hated that Phantom set, and should have got the Toronto cast version as it had a track per scene as god intended, plus "Yay, Canada!" (where I'm from).
My cd of Rush - 2112 uses indexes, as do some other prog rock cds I have.
Enigma - MCMXCad (original release) uses them.
Back in 1989, radio WMSE had a half busted Sanyo (I think) consumer grade CD player that allowed one to actually navigate the index system. It worked, just sort of useless. I have only come across two CDs that used them, and disappeared when they were reissued.
The original 1984 release of Jean Michel Jarre - Zoolook has indexes, at least in some countries.
Fisher Engineer: So, do you want me to design a turntable or a CD player?
Fisher Management: *Yes.*
This reminds me of those cassette players that would actually flip the cassette over to play the other side, interesting conversation pieces from an engineering standpoint, but not from having to get it fixed.
Those had a need to fix, the recording heads are only two track, so for auto reverse to work you would either flip the head, flip the tape or forgo automatic reverse, in a play only device you can just use a four track head, but a recordable device not really gonna happen, in the early days they would use flip the tape, later flip the head, nakamichi however decided to go with flip the tape due to fears the heads could eventually fall out of alignment.
@@compzac Yeah, whether or not the alignment concern actually happens, if at all, is up for debate.
@@compzac You could always displace the recording head instead, and use the four track head the same way. That would require a special, narrower, recording head that could be moved around sideways, but no big deal. After all, the recording head is just a magnet to erase the tape, and it is the play head that actually does the recording.
"Fishyo" sounds like a bad Ponyo knockoff
Wow, I’m not sure if you’ll see this comment but I got into a car accident 2 weeks ago and was lucky enough to find your channel in that time. Since then I’ve binge watched almost EVERY video you’ve released and have been not only fascinated, but highly entertained and impressed by your ability to explain and demonstrate deeply technical concepts. Once I get back to work in another few weeks you can guarantee me as a faithful patron supporter. Keep it up, I simply LOVE each new video I watch from your channel. I’m going back to school for Computer/electrical engineering and this type of content is EXACTLY what gets me going!!! Thank you so much for all you do.
16:45 - Not an audiophile, indeed! The samples provided are almost painful to listen to! There's noticeable high-frequency treybal throughout, loss of gamble in the midrange, and the voice tannor is torqued enough with spoken words that I shudder to think what it would do to actual singing.
_Any_ _resemblance_ _of_ _the_ _preceding_ _statement_ _to_ _actual_ _audio_ _concepts_ _is_ _purely_ _coincidental_ .
It took me two reads to understand that you weren't being serious. Even with the disclaimer.
You got me with the Treybal™, but it only kept getting better after that 😁
That is because he didn’t use gold plated monster cables. Duh
Honestly, if you added a few more fluffy, nonsensical words you could probably write an article for a hi-fi mag.
I have a fairly nice hi-fi and do enjoy good sound quality but, by and large, audiophiles drive me up a wall. I didn't realize people could sap the fun out of a hobby so quickly but read any audio forum for a bit and you'll see. It's like a Ford vs. Chevy argument but even dumber as it's just a bunch of people slap fighting about their opinions non stop.
Andrew Burns monster cables are for plebs. True audiophiles use Audioquest or JPSLabs at $5k per cable
Congrats on winning that Disconnected game on Tom Scott's youtube channel. The video just went live a bit ago
Yeah, that was fun! Alec kicked ass!
didn't win the finals unfortunately
I don't know how you do it....you could make a grain of rice super interesting. The information you give in your videos is jaw dropping. And your delivery of this information is professional, entertaining and funny. You do this with every video you make. You deserve to be a millionaire from RUclips. I am a fan of yours.....obviously.
This is one of my favorite YT channels. You seem to have the same curiosities that I had when I was trying to figure out how my parents’ audio equipment worked. You have answered several questions that I remember having as a kid about how stuff like CD players work. Anyway, this channel kicks ass and I’m gonna go join your Patreon. Keep up the excellent content!
I approve of the Andreas Vollenweider - Down to the moon CD! 💖💖💖🤩
I bought that CD when it came out, and still have it today.
I'm a little distressed by the Raffi CD. Also, it's always a pleasure to hear your music, however briefly!
Oh Hi Anders, fancy meeting you here!
I like your music. Introduced to it by 8-bit guy!
I was a sales associate for Sanyo Fisher back in 1990 and marveled at this. Some of the better rack systems had these and they were available as a separate component. I knew then that records would always be around and admired. Studio 24, the 24 CD changer arrived after that.
16:40
Honestly based on what you just said I want to *issue* you an audiophile card. You clearly actually care about the sound you hear, not how perfect the reproduction is in ways you canʼt hear.
Yes
You are REALLY overestimating the penetration of CDs in the 80s. CDs were a lot of money in the 80s. Albums were around $8.99 and compact discs were around $19.99. Cassettes were usually a little cheaper, maybe 7.99. 45s were a major thing. Everyone had 45s. I have a shit load of 1980s 45s that I bought as a teenager in the 80s. Cassette singles didn't start taking off until the late 80s and even then they were never anywhere near as popular as the 45s were. For one, jukeboxes needed 45s, not cassingles. CD based jukeboxes were always the newest jukeboxes and were more expensive and usually cost more money to play. Because of this, 45 jukeboxes lasted a lot longer than they would have. Even in the LATE 90s, there were still a lot of 45 jukeboxes in bars and restaurants.
This was sold as part of an all in one rack system. That rack system absolutely needed a phonograph. Putting them both into one component saved money. I myself bought a new record player in 1989 that I still have and use. I still own a bunch of 80s records. Granted, I don't use them that much, but they are just sitting in my stereo rack not bothering anyone.
This is true. The first CD player I ever saw in the flesh was in 1993. This was in middle class middle America. CDs were crazy expensive and CD players even more so, especially compared to cassettes. Records were still common, although had been overtaken by cassettes. Honestly, cassettes and CDs were only popular because you could use them easily in a car. I still have a turntable, but not a CD player.
First CDs where 3,500 Japanese yen (4,517.01 yen today), hence the "35DP" series of CDs from CBS/Sony Japan and the "CP35" series from Toshiba-EMI. or about $42.66 USD today. However by 1985 they were reduced to 3,200 yen, and later 2,800 yen by 1988.
In the late 80s my dad had a CD player in the component system and it was a big deal. We had like 2 CDs, the rest were cassettes and records. The number of CDs slowly increased until around 95-97 and took over.
@@KylesDigitalLab I do not and have never lived in Japan.
@@christo930 That's why I provided prices in USD, accounting for inflation aswell
That "it spins" gag caught me so off-guard I didn't even comprehend it for a few seconds.
The DS Lite is to GBA games as this thing is to records.
Kinda, although the DS Lite does save space/weight that you don't need to carry. If only it had support for original Gameboy and GBC games.
@@apainintheaas Cool.
Anyway, great analogy Emblazened.
Golly you are right
@@apainintheaas it does if you mod it
Just wanted to mention that I really appreciate the quality of your videos. They are visually appealing and you make the subject matter genuinely interesting. Thank you for what you do.
my dad actually bought one of these in 1990-something
he had acquired his dad's record collection, and he himself already had some CD's and records and just wanted a single system for both.
i own this unit now, and it still works, though the belt did need replacing cause it snapped once.
Filled with cd's the record speed may be more stable because of the greater mass..
"Superlatively girthy" was my nickname in high school.
Thanks to that Logitech joystick you got for christmas.
Weird, not many people brag about their necks. 😏
Dick joke? Fat joke? Mad squats? Tell me!
@@sternwheeler LOL
@@Lawrence330 Yes.
I have to say I always enjoy your outtakes at the end of your videos. Most of the time I cry for laughter. This time around it was "It would UP?" and the look on your face. Keep up the awesome videos. Makes an Electronics Engineering Tech like myself enjoy someone explaining to the world how we have achieved life along side so much technology.
Your reaction to the spelling of "analogue" had me laughing :D
Yes, Americans are hilarious when they forget where their language came from... I'm surprised that they spent zero time modifying the very ugly word, 'laugh'... At least that would have been a useful change.
1:53 I heard that as "A few quartz of quantization", then saw the crystal oscillator at 1:55 and it took me far too long for my brain to work out the recipe analogy with with electrical components on the screen.
That was a really strange glitch in my logic processing. And it was awesome!
What a nifty curiosity this device is. It is somewhat ironic that it probably sold poorly because people stopped buying vinyl records, and no one would buy one today because people stopped buying CDs.
The "analogway" bit though.... I LMFOed and rewinded
This was a fun bit of history. When I was in high school, I remember my friends all putting CD changers in their cars. I finally got a 3-CD disk changer when I was in college: part of a stereo. But my stereo was not a component like this. It was a single unit.
But I started out at the tail end of the record era. I had a record player. And my father bought a stereo system made of components like you describe. Yes, the main unit was called "The Fisher" and looked the like vintage ad you showed. It had lots of vacuum tubes and two giant speakers with plaid grills. He had a record player (forgot the brand) with 4 speeds on it. And there was a reel-to-reel tape player, the Tandenburg. My contribution, as a teenager, was to buy a cord to connect my cassette-playing walkman to "The Fisher".
And, now, I'm content with mp3s on my laptop speakers. Where did I lose the plot?
You don't know how happy it makes me to find out you have the absolute best taste in music! That flood Vinyl is a thing of beauty!
On this week’s Today, I learned;
There’s an entire song just for LaserDiscs (back when it was called DiscoVision)
Check out the music video on ruclips.net/video/Azsk21MpbUk/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/hdVMUfNdJmI/видео.html It's sampled from this, which is very interesting
Anders Enger Jensen is kind of awesome.
HE SAID THE THING GUYS HE MADE A CONNECTION
Vinyl never disappeared from the underground scene, where music continued to be released in a format that DJs could mix. Many DJs, esp more recently, have switched to digital formats, in some music genres more than others, and this does allow for creativity in prepared sets, but vinyl is a more instant thing, where they are played more like a live instrument, with each mix being something that can be done well or totally screwed up, and so requiring loads of practice to get good, and very satisfying when able to bang something out just right. The 90s saw the rise of plenty of ecstasy fuelled music lovin', the rise of the rave scene, it wasn't small, and it was all vinyl driven.
Anders Enger Jenson: My Technology Connections and 8-Bit Guy worlds just collided.
He's featured over on Techmoan a lot too. Basically, he's the go-to for anyone showing off retro sound equipment since he doesn't care about copyright claims. Almost as if that's a really great way to spread the word about your music or something.
@@SmaMan Also his music is really good
Alec's played his records a few times in the past when looking at record players. See "Automatic Record Changers: We used to like them".
@@SmaMan It's worse than that. He got screwed over by distrokid making the Topic channel, which meant he couldn't monetize his own stuff on RUclips anymore at all. Go buy his stuff. He needs it.
"Under the dust cover you will find [pause]", I totally expected "dust" here.
It's easy to see some of the potential improvements that could have been made. Most important would be reducing record slip by using a star shaped rubber pad at the center and larger triangular pads between the CDs.
My first thought as well! That could easily be done!
"It's... It's just there... Grab one" is my favorite part about this video
"The belt has gone to goo" made me chuckle.
It made me cringe, mainly because I've dealt with that particular issue before.
This device is made for the people who had record albums and wanted to also get the new CDs but didn't want to throw out their old records. Maybe they didn't have the room to do that for example, and they didn't want to chose between a record player and a CD player. We have just enough room for a CD player or a turntable so we had to pull each out and hook it up to change things. This would have been a superb unit in that location.
Lots of people didn't want to buy a second copy of their music on CD so this was the best solution.
*throws money at the maker of this magical device*
"I request your musical contraption so that I may vibe." 😂
0:42 "Ah, I see: you mean because it rotates, right?"
0:47 "Damn, so close! I knew it!"
“Doesn’t, despite monumental effort”
Is the definition of the CED
Of course you picked "DiscoVision" as the test track.
"You've seen the thumbnail and title."
Technically, yes, but I already clicked the video before even reading the title. I saw you posted a video, I didn't need one of those fancy titles to know it was gonna be good. ;P
If there were an option to have Chrome automatically open a new tab to your video the instant it's uploaded, I would. Superbell™ icon.
You just make me wanna code a chrome extension that does that
@@r3dchicken I'm down. Let's do it!
@@justicesportsman6020 Let's go !
@@justicesportsman6020 There you go chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/youtube-superbell/cmgkapfcbpeahalfnpmlafmghiijaole
@@r3dchicken Hahaha you're the best! You can you link to your GitHub? Not the project, just your gethub 😎
I recently found your channel & have been enjoying your videos. Your opening statement that you enjoy learning about the evolution of technologies sparked a 'connection' in my brain. Although it's an older show and you've probably already seen it, for the benefit of your viewers that may not have, I highly recommend James Burke's 'Connections' series. It maps out the evolution of technologies to show how we got to where we are now (or about 30yrs ago when the show was made) showing the sometimes strange and seemingly unrelated events that shape the evolution of technology. IE: from the ox drawn plow in ancient Egypt to the modern combine harvester. Though slightly outdated now, still a fascinating journey through history.
Actually, in the early 90s, Vinyl records were still prevalent. I can see where they *thought* this would be a good niche product. Because of the flaws discussed and the fact that Fisher products by this time had a "cheap junk" vibe, this probably did not have a huge uptake. If it sold well at all, I'd imagine it was in the rack system configuration.
Rack systems were a big deal despite being all of the space requirements of components and typically none of the benefits (audiophile quality, etc.). But, hey, they looked "cool" in the Christmas catalog.
CDs only beat out record sales in the late 1980s. Cassettes held on a few more years. This made sense at the time, though probably was not very good. Those in the market for something like thing, which would have been those born before 1970, had records and would still have been listening to them. I do not know how the price compared to a regular CD player, which was expensive, but it could have served the purpose of giving you the new with the old.
"who is this for?" well, apparently for you ;-). That Vinyl-Rant had me laughing out loud to my cats. As always great vid to unwind to after a days work. Thanks!
This being released at the dawn of the 90s where the vinyl record was becoming out of fashion, perhaps was a way to place CDs on the throne of component Hi-Fi. Front loading CD players didn't show off the spinning discs like a turntable would, so in a world where people simply weren't buying turntables anymore, Fisher may have released this as a visual replacement to that. By 1990, CDs (and cassettes) had left the vinyl record in the dust, but people still had a lot of them around, so when someone in 1990 picking components for their new Hi-Fi and maybe didn't want to waste money on a turntable they would seldom use, this looks (visually and functionally) like a nice compromise. The visual appeal of visible spinning discs in a new way with the possibility of whipping out an old rekkid on the odd occasion.
"The Compact Disc was a truly revolutionary product in a number of ways. First, it spins."
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That one almost made me spit my tea all over my computer. LOL!!
Being easily amused is a gift!
I found it funny, didn't quite spill anything, but there were some strong exhales through my nose.
@Adventure Ticket I bet that was the accidental pun he mentioned on Twitter.
I know I'm being pedantic, but technically the spinning just makes it "rotationary" 😉
I heard that, mentally processed it for a moment, and then started laughing a good second or two later.
Weird Al! The Poodle Hat CD!!! I love that it was one of the chosen CDs for this video. I’m also digging the Imagination Institute shirt.
This is just the best channel from all the learning about odd things that I’m weirdly interested in to just your quiet shoutouts to my passions. Like Weird Al and Disney.
Did you see Al in Orlando???
Very hidden and meta Disney Reference- the andreas vollenweider cd... prominently featured in Tomorrowland music pre 1994.
having a slipmat on hand for when it's record time would probably help a good deal with the traction problems
Having a Slipknot is great for when you want entry level metal
@@TheZINGularity I know when you wrote that you were probably high and thought you hit a home run. So I will forgive you.
@@jonathansoko1085 I very well might have been, but SlipKnot is still pretty good for entery level metalheads who are just tipping their toes into the genre of metal.
Congrats on getting on Disconnected with Tom Scott!
11:20 I suspect the mechanical detent is used because the motor lacks actual closed loop feedback which would be necessary to stop at the correct position. You will notice the binary patters used to identify the disk positions, but there is also another trailing slot about an inch further on in the rotation from the pattern. That is where the sensor actually is when the tray stops on one of the CD positions. The sensor can read each pattern as it goes by at normal seeking speed. After is reads the correct pattern the next LOW from the sensor (the 1" section) puts it into slow mode, then the next HIGH from the sensor (the small slot) shorts the windings. The exact position of the tray will depend on the number of other disks due to different rotational inertia so the detent is a simple and cheep way to eliminate the need for more electronic accuracy. This kind of control would be very easy to program into any super cheep microcontroller that was already in there to run the display. The detent is likely activated by another cam from the same motor that raises the CD reader and moves the top clamp holding arm.
It also keeps the turntable from moving when the CD is playing because shorting the motor (using it as a break) would not work without a much finer encoder. The
I think the failure to seek problem is caused by a dirty sensor or flaky solder connection/trace in this circuit.
Interesting, thanks!