@@fhaerhaerhaerheryueryu6470 not true. 6900 xt 16gb card. New gen cards all 12gb+ Only true because 6gb 1660 super. Now if youre playing csgo or valorant... yeah youre probable cpu bottlenecked
@@deion___8354 Most people over limit on their PSU. 500W was plenty for a shitty little system like that. 500 was enough for an rx6600 with a 5600x and overclocked. So.. take your condescending idiocy somewhere else, human worm, or your shitty little genetic tree will get erased from this rock.
the problem with this video is that your gpu is being maxed out, so there isn't going to be any noticeable difference in performance. ram speeds entirely affect how the cpu is going to perform
@@crescentmoon256 because its a benchmark???? obviously if you want to test the ram speeds you have to be cpu bottlenecked or this video would actually mean jack shit
The GPU is never the bottleneck in 1080p, cos 1080p resolution is too low to use the GPU. That's why RAM and CPU benchmarks are made in the lowest possible resolution, while GPU tests are made in 1440p and 4k. In 1440p and 4k the CPU and RAM don't matter anymore, cos all they do is calculating and giving zeros and ones. In 1440p and 4k you'll have the same FPS with a 5-10 year old CPU for example.
I'm currently using 32 gb Cosair Vengance 2666 and from what I see in this video is it's actually better in gaming and just as good as the 4000. I don't think I need to swap it out for now. Great video and thanks.
brother I'm using 1x8GB ddr4 2666mhz Ram. And i ordering another ram with 1x16gb 3200mhz ram. Should i cancel the 3200mhz ram order and Buy 2666mhz ram to pair together. Because if i buy 3200mhz ram Then the other 2666mhz ram is wasted. So I'm thinking to buy one more 2666mhz ram to pair with my old one Ram. is it good ? can someone suggeste me ?
It matters if u fight about every fps ... on warzone 3600 cl14 i clocked to 3800 and give me 10fps difference Wow instead of 270 i have around 280 285 and 1procent low better around 3to5fps hahahah
This is a realistic scenario. Thank you. Because in general people run games with the GPU as bottleneck and not the CPU and RAM as bottleneck. And in this case and at 50-70 fps the differences are only very little between ram speeds, what also shows your video.
Thank you for understanding. As many people were saying that u should have tried with powerful gpu. But most of gsmers have only access to decent or average gpu (real scenario) with an average gpu the difference is not that much noticeable
@@ultimate_worm Yep. In normal case you have a gpu bottleneck. Then ram speed isn't a very important factor anymore. So to see if it is worth buying faster ram your video is great...
Very useful video I think you would see big difference with older amd cpus zen2 and older because of the infinity fabric and the 2 ccds in each cpu The newer (not that new now) zen 3 cpus at least the one u use in ur test (5600x) have one ccd with 8 cores (2 disabled 6 active) don’t use the infinity fabric at all so faster rams don’t matter much
I'm always worried that I should have invested in retiring my old 2017 DDR4 2400 8Gx2 kingston sticks. With DDR5 coming, I'm stretching my thin budget towards there, and your video confirms that I wouldn't got any performance boost on games. Thanks.
for me i will always get ddr4 with 3600 MHz of ram speed. ddr5 is still expensive until today and still many issue with memory bug, cpu bug, motherboard bug for amd socket AM5. not sure with intel but must cost more than amd build
@@ClientsMusic thanks for your input. I've been told is already, it's a latency issue. You also saying this confrms this. Maybe I'll do better if I wait a year.
3600 is the best value currently in terms of price vs performance. I don’t know why but with both Intel and Ryzen setups I get better performance gaming and often in benchmarks with looser timings, sometimes looser than those specified on the sticks.
@@Thor777AHT not really, ryzen do love fast RAM over intel in DDR4 gen. the 2666 only perform better in some test due to lower primary timings since the RAM that are used with XMP profile are RAM that have loosed Timings. Some games ignore frequency and gain performance a lot by lowering the timings. Some do love high frequency regardless of timings. While some loves high frequency either tight primary and secondary timings. ETC. ETC. The best way is just to learn manual OC to gain free performance and set the frequency to highest possible while tightening primary & secondary timings as low as possible. IF you have more time then you can even go as far doing a GDM OFF 1T/2T which will take more work than just frequency + tight timings OC. I did all of them there's only two setting that are set to auto in my RAM setting. its 1D to 3Days stable with OCCT-RAM-SSE Test, OCCT-RAM-AVX2 Test, OCCT-Large-Extreme- SSE/AVX2/AVX/AVX-512 Test, Prime95-Large-FFT Test, Memtest, Memtest64, TM5 @Antutu Extreme Profile Test. Now as long as i stay with 1080p Monitor performance gain with all type of scenario is noticeable.
Thanks, buddy. You made my decision a lot easier now. Didnt expected that "only" 2400 MHz do so well compared to "on paper much faster" 3000 MHz RAM. Seems like timing and CL have very big influence too.
Note: Cache latency is relative to clock speed (cycles of delay), not nanoseconds, and impacts 1% lows, not average fps. 3200mhz is the lowest you should get usually, as this is a deceptive benchmark, the CPU is barely even being used completely invalidating the test. 2400mhz is ancient (budget end of release day, 2014) and will cripple performance when cpu is being pushed.
I have 2)AM4 systems. The first is a X370 Motherboard that I always had problems with finding RAM. The highest DDR4 that I had that worked was a set of DDR4-2666-(4x8gb) The Second is a B550, and I have a set of DDR4 3600-(4x8gb) I have re built the PC made up around the X370 Motherboard, but I was not, put out by the limitations of the RAM choice, and I decided it was something I could live with, that is no discernible difference. (except me knowing it was 'only' 2666 vs the 3600 intended) This video verified that, and more. I thought the testing differences would be at least 10 FPS.
Thanks.. Never done a CL timings test and always think per cycle not ns.. the 1.7ghz gpu looks @ the 2.6ghz ram on the 124 mark for an even or odd match with the possibly 3ghz ssd. M.2 Sata - NVME B Key - M.2 NVME ☕ Note - still no Windows on a BluRay for the speedreadout..
@@tarantulamadness6191 and recently we had an outage where i lost power to the bios and had a decent amount of fps loss without the ram OC, so 100% makes a diff. im using a ryzen cpu too probs thats why
For people saying the GPU is a bottleneck: CPU + RAM don't care in graphics. That's why CPU+RAM benchmarks are made in the lowest possible resolution (720p-1080p) - to simulate data dumpster fire. If you switch to good resolutions like 1440p and 4k there's no difference at all, cos CPU+RAM just calculating stuff and handle the data over. You could use a 10 year old CPU+RAM and wouldn't see a difference in 1440p and 4k. It's all in margin of error. A GPU is named graphics processing unit for a purpose... This is perfectly shown here: only GPU matters in games.
A slow cpu can't power a capable gpu. Cpu (central processing unit) controls everything in the computer, including the graphical processing unit. And a bad cpu can't allocate so many resources to control a strong gpu
So what is the real bottleneck? The GPU? I think it's important to max everything else out to see the full potential of the difference in RAM, but it's good to see a more "realistic" test bench, as I would imagine the large majority of gamers have low-mid tier graphics cards. Still, the test could have been done better. All this video has done is highlight that there is no difference among the types of RAM, which really raises the question for viewers - why even bother getting the expensive stuff? Something's missing here, and I suspect it's the test bench set up. Do this again with a maxed out video card for the bigger picture.
@@channelz1xwebr No always. But playing games on lower resolution requires more CPU frame time set up. So if you have a slow CPU, you’re going to have lower frames in that scenario.
With a gtx1660 I'm not sure you're really stressing things. I have a 9900k and I'm upgrading to a 4070ti from a 1070. I currently have 2666 ddr4, and from what I've seen in some games the extra memory clocks give anywhere from 5% to 40% improvements. It's game dependent. For $70 ill double my ram from 2x8 2666 to 2x16 3600 and push my 9900k a bit further until i upgrade it eventually too.
@@TheGamersRace eSports games needs a strong single core to push higher frames to the maximum. So testing in low settings will max out not just the gpu but cpu as well to push the gpu as much as possible. To put into simple terms, both cpu and gpu matters equally if you want crazy high fps. In this testing, the gpu is holding back the cpu and ram.
This is good news When I built my computer years ago, there was no fast memory in stock, and I bought 2 32Gb dims at 2400Mhz Some people have made videos where it seems that the 2400Mhz memory causes a bottleneck, and in a video game a 3200Mhz memory causes growth of more than 10fps I was worried thinking that maybe I should make an improvement
i was afraid bcos my 24 GB ram speed is 2400 mhz, i was planning to buy ram with higher speeds but now i see the truth, thank you for save me money dude
It can be seen that a person unfamiliar with the workings of the amd platform made the video, the most important frequencies for the AMD processor were simply not added to this comparison 3800 and 4400, so we can see the minimum differences
I'm using 1x8GB ddr4 2666mhz Ram. And i ordering another ram with 1x16gb 3200mhz ram. Should i cancel the 3200mhz ram order and Buy 2666mhz ram to pair together. Because if i buy 3200mhz ram Then the other 2666mhz ram is wasted. So I'm thinking to buy one more 2666mhz ram to pair with my old one Ram. is it good ? can you suggeste me ?
Hello, I bought a Ryzen 5 4500, an ASUS PRIME A520M-K motherboard, an RTX 3050 6GB MSI Gaming X, and there is a VERY CHEAP Corsair Vengeance Lpx 2666mhz 2x8GB offer, would it be a good buy or should I go for 2 3200/3600 modules?
U should go for at least 3200 but stil you can check for vegeance 2666 sticks Overclocking capability. I think vegeance stick can go upto 3000mhz easily and it is safe also and maybe 3200 also possible.
my pc is quite old, I use I9 9900k, Rtx 2070 and 32GB ram 3200mhz DDR4, on the lowest settings with Dlss on balanced I get between 60 to 90 fps, it depends on where I am on the map, I have few cases where it dropped below 20fps especially around buildings or inside of them, I think that might be related to shaders. but what makes the game unplayable for me is crashes, I can't complete a single game due to crashes, I understand that the game is still in early access, and it might take a long time to fix all of the performance issues crashes and the poor optimizations.
Running a Ryzen 9 5900x with G Skill Rip Jaw on a 10 layer PCB cl14 3600mhz 4x8gb overclocked to cl14 3800mhz with the tightest timings at 1.50 volts and a 120mm fan pointing right at the ram modules they idle at 23c and when gaming or running benchmarks never go above 27c saw a major FPS increase in Aida64 Extreme the latencey is 52.3ns the OS just seems snappy love Samsung B-die.
Best is to pick 4000Mhz it should be also samsung b-die its more cheaper now as of today since the newer gen focuses on DDR5 now. Then you can just manually adjust it to 3600/3800Mhz and copy the stock XMP primary timing, DRAM voltage of Samsung B-die kits in the market. And when you have time try to learning how to manually overclock your DDR4 RAM there are now tons of very accurate guides how to overclock a DDR4 RAM specially with samsung B-die since its really popular RAM die-type in DDR4 gen. Follow the guide and properly stress test your RAM with multiple RAM stability app if it pass all those (the longer the better basic rule of 24hrs testing per app to avoid stability issue). The benefit of getting a 4000Mhz++ Frequency w/ Samsung B-die chip is due to the XMP profile of at least 4000Mhz you have no problem hitting a 4000Mhz 1:1 ratio with just enabling XMP with IF OC using a ryzen 5000 series (only if your IMC can do a 4000Mhz) you can even push it higher if it does. If it doesn't then you can lower it from 4000-3966-3900 etc. until stable since its originally a 4000Mhz vs a 3600Mhz the 3600Mhz might only reach 3733/3800/3866Mhz even if your IF/IMC can reach 4000Mhz or above.. due to your RAM being lowered binned. There's a reason why they are 3600Mhz out of the box they are lower binned variant of the same model... Plus the higher binned 4000Mhz can also do tighter timing the a 3600Mhz, higher binned 4000Mhz is also easier to OC than 3600Mhz.
Yes you're right. For new gen games gtx 1660 is very low-mid range gpu. That's why difference isn't noticeable. Thankyou for the suggestion brother. Will try with better gpu in future video 🤝
5600x supports up to 3200-3600 Mhz ram speed. that's why there isn't a whole lot of difference between 3200 3600 and 4000. you shouldve used a better cpu and gpu. thanks for the benchmarks nonetheless
So my setup is from 2018 with i7 Core 8700k with 1080ti, ROG Maxiumus x Code and i only using 16GB 3000mhz from Corsair, this setup i run today! And I running alot of programs, like a game and/or photoshop and so on, i dont feel any slow, sometimes I think i dont need to add 16GB more, and sometimes i think i need to see any difference, but 3000mhz is hard to find today, so i have seen 3200mhz 32GB, will this make any difference?
Your timings on your 3600 give the best latency that would be where youd see anything but very literally 97C on the GPU youre totally bottlenecked by your gpu and you wont see any real difference. Ram speed helps with lost frames if your gpu isnt capped, and helps with cpu intensive games. So you might see a jump on CS:2 or starcraft or arma3 but likely not anywhere else.
In performance matrices i didn't included temperature information, where did u seen that gpu is running at 97°c ? The gpu was running at around 70-75°c. And msi gamingX gpus doesn't drop clock or memory speed even at 85°c bro
Brother I have Ryzen 5 3400g with 2666mhz ram(1x8) and I am going to upgrade it should I get a same stick or should I buy 2 separate (8x2) rams. Please reply
Nice video but unfortunately not really testing ram speed impact as it's significant in CPU bound scenarios ... Upgrade gpu and you will see the difference
Yes u r later on i realised that because of weak gpu the difference wasn't that noticeable. Will fix this in next video. Thankyou for watching and also for suggestion ♥️
realistically the ram is more like brain muscle memory, like helping load and render skins in fortnite for example between each game or switching shop each tab in the shops not so much about running around in a game, it stores previous data and loads the data that was already recorded into the ram and it speaks to the cpu back and forth opposed to just going to the hdd but now with m.2 ssd the speed of ram is becoming less required because the speed between nvme and it is so fast
I am having 2 rams using together 1. Corsair 8gb ddr4 ram (2400mhz) 5 year old 2. Corsiar vengewnce rgb 16gb ddr4 (3200mhz) When using both i get speed of 2100mhz So should i remove the 8gb ram and use only 16gb ram this way i can get 2666mhz which is max supported by my motherboard?
Yes both stick's default ram speed is getting set to low to match the speed for both ram, because one of them have lower speed (2400mhz). So u can try 2 things in bios, try to set the mhz value for both of the ram to max mhz supported by ur motherboard, or take out the 8gb stick and set mhz to max supported. And check the performance between both scenarios. Bdw what cpu and motherboard you are ? Model name ?
@@ultimate_worm actually i have a 2019 pc build it had core i5 8th gen and gigabyte b360 gaming hd motherboard which supports 8yh and 9th gen cpu I have only upgraded the gpu 7800 xt and msi 1000w psu
Restart/power on your laptop. After pressing power button immediately start tapping delete button on keyboard. In few seconds your laptop will enter into bios. In overclocking section of bios you will find out a option called xmp/docp profile, Click on that and you will found 1 or 2 profile with different speeds just select any of them. And then you can save & reboot your laptop
i have Sapphire Nitro+RX6800 16GB normal and Pocessor intel Core i9-7900X and Motherboard MSiPro X299 LGA2066 on Quad Channel Kingston Fury Renegade Black 2666MHz CL-13 but work's 3200MHz it XMP very nice for me but i can use 4200MHz my Motherboard its the max i can put on it
i compared two specs and it said that one device had higher cpu speed but the other device had higher ram speed. whats the difference between CPU SPEED and RAM SPEED?
I have 5600Mhz CL36 lexar thor i was thinking about trying to overclock it to 6000Mhz and Cl32 and put the voltage from 1.25V to 1.35V would that be do able idk whats reasonable overclock for ram as i’ve only ever done Cpu and GPU
So the conclusion is GPU spesification more important that RAM with high Mhz right? For the addition, I like how the editing in this video & Thanks you to made this video!
Later on after making this video i realised that, If u have average gpu. Low-mid range gpu(in my case my gtx1660) u wont notice any huge difference in different speed ram. It only starts to matter when your gpu & cpu both are powerful. Specially gpu
i’m using a gtx 1650 and was going to upgrade to 2x8gb 3600mz ram as i’ve only got 1x8gb of ram rn with 3000mz, should i get 2x8gb 3600mz ram or 1x8 3000mz ram (btw i dont know what motherboard i have)
Is it true that RAM will have huge impact in the following setup? CPU: Ryzen 5 4500 GPU: RX 6600 motherboard: Gigabyte A520M H 16 GB 2666Mhz I just want to play LoL at stable high FPS (180 or something). But now it decays overtime in game, from average 130 to 110 or something. Some1 mentioned I have a relative weak CPU/RAM combo. Can anyone tell if e.g. 8/16 GB of 3200Mhz RAM will solve this or is my CPU the issue as well?
Did you do this with infinity fabric set to half the memory value in bios, it might change your values a lot, if you didn’t can you do another upload with tgat
Well budget 6 cores cpu now can be so cheap that seem like buying new ram to replace old ram don’t really make sure for my case. I may buy ryzen 5 5500 to replace my old build very soon, it is only around $90 for a new one over here. I already have 16gb 2133 ram, if I buy 16gb 3200 ram that would be like 50% of the new cpu price for like average 5% fps gain in gaming and almost no improvement for anything else like software stuff.
When the new models( ryzen 1000 series) come is a angry ram speed not like a old ones fx6000 series it low speed, for use 100% of the cpu performance (ryzen) use minim 3200 ram,change and you will see for sure more then 5% performance
Mixing ram is not that bad, but there's one thing for example, if your system have a low speed ram like 2666 and if you add 3200 speed ram, the 3200 speed ram will slow down it self to match the speed of 2666 ram
gtx 1660 is the bigger bottleneck here. 5600x is plenty fast. Its very difficult to find differences with that GPU.
The video card is always a bottleneck. The video card is always small.
@@fhaerhaerhaerheryueryu6470 not true. 6900 xt 16gb card. New gen cards all 12gb+
Only true because 6gb 1660 super.
Now if youre playing csgo or valorant... yeah youre probable cpu bottlenecked
I agree, this video didn't really prove anything with the bottlenecking
lol with 450watts psu@@TheMoafo
@@deion___8354 Most people over limit on their PSU. 500W was plenty for a shitty little system like that. 500 was enough for an rx6600 with a 5600x and overclocked. So.. take your condescending idiocy somewhere else, human worm, or your shitty little genetic tree will get erased from this rock.
That music made me nostalgy about 2012-2015
the problem with this video is that your gpu is being maxed out, so there isn't going to be any noticeable difference in performance. ram speeds entirely affect how the cpu is going to perform
the problem with you is youre watching the wrong video fokker!
@bent540 🤣
why would you want to be cpu limited in real life?
@@crescentmoon256 because its a benchmark???? obviously if you want to test the ram speeds you have to be cpu bottlenecked or this video would actually mean jack shit
Time to upgrade that GPU and cpu :)
Conclusion: RAM frequency cannot help if your GPU is the bottleneck.
The GPU is never the bottleneck in 1080p, cos 1080p resolution is too low to use the GPU. That's why RAM and CPU benchmarks are made in the lowest possible resolution, while GPU tests are made in 1440p and 4k. In 1440p and 4k the CPU and RAM don't matter anymore, cos all they do is calculating and giving zeros and ones. In 1440p and 4k you'll have the same FPS with a 5-10 year old CPU for example.
I've choosen to test at 1080p coz most of gamers have 1080p monitors
@@GERRaze The initially obvious was confirmed, unbelievable😂
@@GERRaze "The GPU is never the bottleneck in 1080p", not everybody is using a 4090 bro
@nuck3743 real life scenario
well this clears alot of questions! thanks!
Welcome 😁
World needs your videos bro
Thankyou brother ❤️
I'm currently using 32 gb Cosair Vengance 2666 and from what I see in this video is it's actually better in gaming and just as good as the 4000. I don't think I need to swap it out for now. Great video and thanks.
Yes brother and you can overclock your current ram sticks upto 2933mhz with fastet timings easily.
brother I'm using 1x8GB ddr4 2666mhz Ram. And i ordering another ram with 1x16gb 3200mhz ram. Should i cancel the 3200mhz ram order and Buy 2666mhz ram to pair together. Because if i buy 3200mhz ram Then the other 2666mhz ram is wasted. So I'm thinking to buy one more 2666mhz ram to pair with my old one Ram. is it good ? can someone suggeste me ?
So basically it don't really matter lol
It matters if u fight about every fps ... on warzone 3600 cl14 i clocked to 3800 and give me 10fps difference
Wow instead of 270 i have around 280 285 and 1procent low better around 3to5fps hahahah
Yes fps games gains better performance
@@ultimate_worm you don ' t understand much at all
@@Ralf986ms lol
@@tornadocapoeira i clockt mn from 1600mhz to 2000mhz.. 10fps+ its nice
This is a realistic scenario. Thank you. Because in general people run games with the GPU as bottleneck and not the CPU and RAM as bottleneck. And in this case and at 50-70 fps the differences are only very little between ram speeds, what also shows your video.
Thank you for understanding. As many people were saying that u should have tried with powerful gpu. But most of gsmers have only access to decent or average gpu (real scenario) with an average gpu the difference is not that much noticeable
@@ultimate_worm Yep. In normal case you have a gpu bottleneck. Then ram speed isn't a very important factor anymore. So to see if it is worth buying faster ram your video is great...
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Very useful video
I think you would see big difference with older amd cpus zen2 and older because of the infinity fabric and the 2 ccds in each cpu
The newer (not that new now) zen 3 cpus at least the one u use in ur test (5600x) have one ccd with 8 cores (2 disabled 6 active) don’t use the infinity fabric at all so faster rams don’t matter much
This test was done with infinity fabric speed disabled
I'm always worried that I should have invested in retiring my old 2017 DDR4 2400 8Gx2 kingston sticks. With DDR5 coming, I'm stretching my thin budget towards there, and your video confirms that I wouldn't got any performance boost on games. Thanks.
Thankyou for watching ❤️ a subscribe will be helpful brother
for me i will always get ddr4 with 3600 MHz of ram speed. ddr5 is still expensive until today and still many issue with memory bug, cpu bug, motherboard bug for amd socket AM5. not sure with intel but must cost more than amd build
@@TONY_CHOPPER94 interesting... and I'm afraid now. Do you happen to know if that still the case with Intel chipsets?
in some cases DDR5 is slower than DDR4, not worth it yet
@@ClientsMusic thanks for your input. I've been told is already, it's a latency issue. You also saying this confrms this. Maybe I'll do better if I wait a year.
I was thinking of upgrade to 3600 from 2666 32gig, but now i stay with the 2666 32gig until i get a whole new system. Thanks for this nice video...:)
Welcome brother 😁
What is your current CPU and GPU? I'm planning also to upgrade from 2666 to 3600
Really good video this. I was wondering about "upgrading from 3200mhz to 4000mhz. Now I see there is absolutely no point. Thank!
U r good with 3200mhz, if you want you can just overclock your ram to 3600nhz with fastet timings
3600 is the best value currently in terms of price vs performance. I don’t know why but with both Intel and Ryzen setups I get better performance gaming and often in benchmarks with looser timings, sometimes looser than those specified on the sticks.
Yes 3600 is best value
Looks like the 2666 one is preforming the best on games.
@@Thor777AHT not really, ryzen do love fast RAM over intel in DDR4 gen.
the 2666 only perform better in some test due to lower primary timings since the RAM that are used with XMP profile are RAM that have loosed Timings.
Some games ignore frequency and gain performance a lot by lowering the timings.
Some do love high frequency regardless of timings.
While some loves high frequency either tight primary and secondary timings.
ETC. ETC. The best way is just to learn manual OC to gain free performance and set the frequency to highest possible while tightening primary & secondary timings as low as possible.
IF you have more time then you can even go as far doing a GDM OFF 1T/2T which will take more work than just frequency + tight timings OC.
I did all of them there's only two setting that are set to auto in my RAM setting.
its 1D to 3Days stable with OCCT-RAM-SSE Test, OCCT-RAM-AVX2 Test, OCCT-Large-Extreme- SSE/AVX2/AVX/AVX-512 Test, Prime95-Large-FFT Test, Memtest, Memtest64, TM5 @Antutu Extreme Profile Test.
Now as long as i stay with 1080p Monitor performance gain with all type of scenario is noticeable.
@@gamertechlive1780 I did the exact same thing. 3400mhz 14-14-14-28 and gdm off 1t
@@tarantulamadness61913600 @ 17 21 21 21 38 is also nice.
Thanks, buddy. You made my decision a lot easier now. Didnt expected that "only" 2400 MHz do so well compared to "on paper much faster" 3000 MHz RAM.
Seems like timing and CL have very big influence too.
Yes with average gpu it doesn't effect on fps
Note: Cache latency is relative to clock speed (cycles of delay), not nanoseconds, and impacts 1% lows, not average fps. 3200mhz is the lowest you should get usually, as this is a deceptive benchmark, the CPU is barely even being used completely invalidating the test. 2400mhz is ancient (budget end of release day, 2014) and will cripple performance when cpu is being pushed.
Very good benchmark but try a more powerful GPU to really see the potential of RAM with higher speed and low timings
Well, that and newer CPU can benefit from different clock speeds. This is kinda in a bottleneck
Well it matches the performance of rx 580, I think the result applies to most of us who would not buy 4090 lol xd
Yes not everybody is rich 😂🤣 Rescue Helly. So with a average gpu u wont notice much difference. And i think majority of pc gamers are low end gamers
@@ultimate_worm Good point, im still rocking 1070 with 2600 so this is good enough for me not to upgrade RAM yet.
@marconarco540 yes and u can oc ur 2600 ram to 2933 easily
I have 2)AM4 systems.
The first is a X370 Motherboard that I always had problems with finding RAM. The highest DDR4 that I had that worked was a set of DDR4-2666-(4x8gb)
The Second is a B550, and I have a set of DDR4 3600-(4x8gb)
I have re built the PC made up around the X370 Motherboard, but I was not, put out by the limitations of the RAM choice, and I decided it was something I could live with, that is no discernible difference. (except me knowing it was 'only' 2666 vs the 3600 intended) This video verified that, and more. I thought the testing differences would be at least 10 FPS.
Yes brother only minor differences
Thanks..
Never done a CL timings test and always think per cycle not ns..
the 1.7ghz gpu looks @ the 2.6ghz ram on the 124 mark for an even or odd match with the possibly 3ghz ssd.
M.2 Sata - NVME B Key - M.2 NVME ☕
Note - still no Windows on a BluRay for the speedreadout..
dafuq the moment i open the video it hits me with nostalgia. Nc music bro
Hahah 😂
i overclocked my ram from 2133 to 3600 and yes made a difference even if the CL was higher
Mine came 2400mhz out of the box and I got it stable at 3400mhz 14-14-14-28.
@@tarantulamadness6191 ddr4 runs low voltage stock. you can up it , can reach 3600 too
What application do you use and how?
@@pajret3791 through bios
@@tarantulamadness6191 and recently we had an outage where i lost power to the bios and had a decent amount of fps loss without the ram OC, so 100% makes a diff. im using a ryzen cpu too probs thats why
For people saying the GPU is a bottleneck: CPU + RAM don't care in graphics. That's why CPU+RAM benchmarks are made in the lowest possible resolution (720p-1080p) - to simulate data dumpster fire. If you switch to good resolutions like 1440p and 4k there's no difference at all, cos CPU+RAM just calculating stuff and handle the data over. You could use a 10 year old CPU+RAM and wouldn't see a difference in 1440p and 4k. It's all in margin of error. A GPU is named graphics processing unit for a purpose... This is perfectly shown here: only GPU matters in games.
Exactly that's what tried to demonstrate
so if they did this test with a great gpu, it wouldnt change the fps between the various RAM speed?
A slow cpu can't power a capable gpu. Cpu (central processing unit) controls everything in the computer, including the graphical processing unit. And a bad cpu can't allocate so many resources to control a strong gpu
not true for cs2
Amzing work man, thanks a lot
Really helpful video. :)
Welcome brother, and thankyou for watching the video 🤝
So what is the real bottleneck? The GPU? I think it's important to max everything else out to see the full potential of the difference in RAM, but it's good to see a more "realistic" test bench, as I would imagine the large majority of gamers have low-mid tier graphics cards. Still, the test could have been done better. All this video has done is highlight that there is no difference among the types of RAM, which really raises the question for viewers - why even bother getting the expensive stuff? Something's missing here, and I suspect it's the test bench set up. Do this again with a maxed out video card for the bigger picture.
The gpu is bottleneck
@@yodead369true, but this video is testing games. If it was workload, we should see workload related benchmarks.
@@DavidLinSun I can tell you that I’ve overclocked my memory frequencies, that alone raised my average FPS every time.
The real bottleneck depends on what CPU do you have, the CPU is the only part that can benefits from exploiting the RAM.
@@channelz1xwebr No always. But playing games on lower resolution requires more CPU frame time set up. So if you have a slow CPU, you’re going to have lower frames in that scenario.
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With a gtx1660 I'm not sure you're really stressing things. I have a 9900k and I'm upgrading to a 4070ti from a 1070. I currently have 2666 ddr4, and from what I've seen in some games the extra memory clocks give anywhere from 5% to 40% improvements. It's game dependent. For $70 ill double my ram from 2x8 2666 to 2x16 3600 and push my 9900k a bit further until i upgrade it eventually too.
Yes with good powerful gpu u will definitely notice difference with better speed rams
Gpu doesnt matter its cpu dependent also u should've put everything on low cause at higher framerate cpus benefit from faster memory
@@megvzx6590 Dude, what are you even saying?
@@TheGamersRace eSports games needs a strong single core to push higher frames to the maximum. So testing in low settings will max out not just the gpu but cpu as well to push the gpu as much as possible. To put into simple terms, both cpu and gpu matters equally if you want crazy high fps. In this testing, the gpu is holding back the cpu and ram.
@@TheGamersRace The reply was meant for the other person.
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Awesome and pretty informative video Mate. keep Up the good work
Thankyou brother ❤️
Bro this is a really good video I've almost same set up with you and I've been struglle to which one should I buy, thanks to you now I know.
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This is good news
When I built my computer years ago, there was no fast memory in stock, and I bought 2 32Gb dims at 2400Mhz
Some people have made videos where it seems that the 2400Mhz memory causes a bottleneck, and in a video game a 3200Mhz memory causes growth of more than 10fps
I was worried thinking that maybe I should make an improvement
although it is not understood that 3600mhz memory in this video is reproducing less fps than 3200mhz memory
2400 or 3200 it is not a concern until u have an average graphics card
@@ultimate_worm thank you very much
@Dineritocadames welcome brother ❤️
i was afraid bcos my 24 GB ram speed is 2400 mhz, i was planning to buy ram with higher speeds but now i see the truth, thank you for save me money dude
If you have mid-upper mid range gpu you dont need to really care about high speed ram
Thanks for the testbench
Welcome brother 🤗
It can be seen that a person unfamiliar with the workings of the amd platform made the video, the most important frequencies for the AMD processor were simply not added to this comparison 3800 and 4400, so we can see the minimum differences
I have 2x8 2666mhz ram. better add another 2x8 or replace it with 2x16 which has more MHz?
Both are good options
I'm using 1x8GB ddr4 2666mhz Ram. And i ordering another ram with 1x16gb 3200mhz ram. Should i cancel the 3200mhz ram order and Buy 2666mhz ram to pair together. Because if i buy 3200mhz ram Then the other 2666mhz ram is wasted. So I'm thinking to buy one more 2666mhz ram to pair with my old one Ram. is it good ? can you suggeste me ?
this is absolutly Perfect. Thank you for the Video.
You'd need to repeat the test with a high end GPU for any noticable difference while gaming
Hello, I bought a Ryzen 5 4500, an ASUS PRIME A520M-K motherboard, an RTX 3050 6GB MSI Gaming X, and there is a VERY CHEAP Corsair Vengeance Lpx 2666mhz 2x8GB offer, would it be a good buy or should I go for 2 3200/3600 modules?
U should go for at least 3200 but stil you can check for vegeance 2666 sticks Overclocking capability. I think vegeance stick can go upto 3000mhz easily and it is safe also and maybe 3200 also possible.
the only point of this video is: if you are not going to buy a good video card before buying a new PC with DDR5, yes, you do not need fast RAM
my pc is quite old, I use I9 9900k, Rtx 2070 and 32GB ram 3200mhz DDR4, on the lowest settings with Dlss on balanced I get between 60 to 90 fps, it depends on where I am on the map, I have few cases where it dropped below 20fps especially around buildings or inside of them, I think that might be related to shaders. but what makes the game unplayable for me is crashes, I can't complete a single game due to crashes, I understand that the game is still in early access, and it might take a long time to fix all of the performance issues crashes and the poor optimizations.
Yes brother
Running a Ryzen 9 5900x with G Skill Rip Jaw on a 10 layer PCB cl14 3600mhz 4x8gb overclocked to cl14 3800mhz with the tightest timings at 1.50 volts and a 120mm fan pointing right at the ram modules they idle at 23c and when gaming or running benchmarks never go above 27c saw a major FPS increase in Aida64 Extreme the latencey is 52.3ns the OS just seems snappy love Samsung B-die.
Which DDR4 8GB 3200MHz ram model provides CL15-17-17-37? I am seeing everywhere... CL16-18-18-38
Best is to pick 4000Mhz it should be also samsung b-die its more cheaper now as of today since the newer gen focuses on DDR5 now.
Then you can just manually adjust it to 3600/3800Mhz and copy the stock XMP primary timing, DRAM voltage of Samsung B-die kits in the market.
And when you have time try to learning how to manually overclock your DDR4 RAM there are now tons of very accurate guides how to overclock a DDR4 RAM specially with samsung B-die since its really popular RAM die-type in DDR4 gen.
Follow the guide and properly stress test your RAM with multiple RAM stability app if it pass all those (the longer the better basic rule of 24hrs testing per app to avoid stability issue).
The benefit of getting a 4000Mhz++ Frequency w/ Samsung B-die chip is due to the XMP profile of at least 4000Mhz you have no problem hitting a 4000Mhz 1:1 ratio with just enabling XMP with IF OC using a ryzen 5000 series (only if your IMC can do a 4000Mhz) you can even push it higher if it does. If it doesn't then you can lower it from 4000-3966-3900 etc. until stable since its originally a 4000Mhz vs a 3600Mhz the 3600Mhz might only reach 3733/3800/3866Mhz even if your IF/IMC can reach 4000Mhz or above.. due to your RAM being lowered binned.
There's a reason why they are 3600Mhz out of the box they are lower binned variant of the same model... Plus the higher binned 4000Mhz can also do tighter timing the a 3600Mhz, higher binned 4000Mhz is also easier to OC than 3600Mhz.
Speeds don't matter much. 3200 is the sweet spot for ddr4 for price and performance wise. Go with ddr5 for significant improvement
Yes 3200 is good for ddr4
very nice video bro! now i will subscribe
Thankyou brother 🤝 very helpful
A for effort! Very informative video.
I was getting a bit of fomo for not having 3600Mhz ram but this video made me realise my worries are imaginary
Yes brother, currently which speed ram u have ?
"Very informative video"? Are you kidding?😂
There is a total GPU bottleneck here...
So this is the most useless video🤮
Really good video idea, but with GTX 1660 you can't see differences.
But i give you another like because you realized very good video.
Yes you're right. For new gen games gtx 1660 is very low-mid range gpu. That's why difference isn't noticeable. Thankyou for the suggestion brother. Will try with better gpu in future video 🤝
Thank you very very much 🎉
Welcome brother ❤️
Meanwhile me still getting by with 1200MHz memory since 2016😂
Hahah😂 ddr3 ?
How did you benchmark Overwatch 2 though? It's a multiplayer game where every matches are different.
U can replay last played match from profile history
Amazing video! Thanks for enduring all the boredom involved in the testing!!
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5600x supports up to 3200-3600 Mhz ram speed. that's why there isn't a whole lot of difference between 3200 3600 and 4000. you shouldve used a better cpu and gpu. thanks for the benchmarks nonetheless
So my setup is from 2018 with i7 Core 8700k with 1080ti, ROG Maxiumus x Code and i only using 16GB 3000mhz from Corsair, this setup i run today!
And I running alot of programs, like a game and/or photoshop and so on, i dont feel any slow, sometimes I think i dont need to add 16GB more, and sometimes i think i need to see any difference, but 3000mhz is hard to find today, so i have seen 3200mhz 32GB, will this make any difference?
Not it wont make much difference
2100 and 3200 I notice gaming frame is much smoother for sure
Due to good timings
Your timings on your 3600 give the best latency that would be where youd see anything but very literally 97C on the GPU youre totally bottlenecked by your gpu and you wont see any real difference.
Ram speed helps with lost frames if your gpu isnt capped, and helps with cpu intensive games. So you might see a jump on CS:2 or starcraft or arma3 but likely not anywhere else.
In performance matrices i didn't included temperature information, where did u seen that gpu is running at 97°c ? The gpu was running at around 70-75°c.
And msi gamingX gpus doesn't drop clock or memory speed even at 85°c bro
Thats an excellent Video Bro, pretty informative and direct to the point, even makin a comparative with redenering process, keep up the work. TSM
Thankyou sir ❤️
with a low-end gpu, and with an asynchronous flock at high ram frequencies, of course you won't see marked differences.
OMG 😨 DDR4 3600 with low latency is the sweet spot 😩.
Yes brother
I can imagine the effort behind making such a video. But sadly the target audience is very small in number.
Yes for now viewers in my channel is small in number 🙂
Brother I have Ryzen 5 3400g with 2666mhz ram(1x8) and I am going to upgrade it should I get a same stick or should I buy 2 separate (8x2) rams. Please reply
Buy Seprate 2 stick with atleast 3200mhz speed. It will give benefit to igpu
NICE WORK
Thankyou brother ❤️🛐
Nice video but unfortunately not really testing ram speed impact as it's significant in CPU bound scenarios ... Upgrade gpu and you will see the difference
Yes u r later on i realised that because of weak gpu the difference wasn't that noticeable. Will fix this in next video. Thankyou for watching and also for suggestion ♥️
You don't need to buy a new gpu, just lower the settings ang activate fsr, it will do the same
Que pasa si hubieras probado la g.skill 4000mt/s CL14?
Minor difference
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realistically the ram is more like brain muscle memory, like helping load and render skins in fortnite for example between each game or switching shop each tab in the shops
not so much about running around in a game, it stores previous data and loads the data that was already recorded into the ram and it speaks to the cpu back and forth opposed to just going to the hdd but now with m.2 ssd the speed of ram is becoming less required because the speed between nvme and it is so fast
did you activated the EXPO of your RAMs in the BIOS?, like the XPM for intel
Good video, keep it up!
Thank-you brother 🤝
Which ram should i buy for my laptop with an intel cpu, 2 8gb ddr4 2133mhz ram or 2 8gb ddr4 2400mhz ram?
If anyone read this message pls help me, I'm soo lost...
Which processor you have in your laptop ?
CPU? It's an intel i5-8250U
U can get 2400mhz ram
So which is best?
I am having 2 rams using together
1. Corsair 8gb ddr4 ram (2400mhz) 5 year old
2. Corsiar vengewnce rgb 16gb ddr4 (3200mhz)
When using both i get speed of 2100mhz
So should i remove the 8gb ram and use only 16gb ram this way i can get 2666mhz which is max supported by my motherboard?
Yes both stick's default ram speed is getting set to low to match the speed for both ram, because one of them have lower speed (2400mhz). So u can try 2 things in bios, try to set the mhz value for both of the ram to max mhz supported by ur motherboard, or take out the 8gb stick and set mhz to max supported. And check the performance between both scenarios. Bdw what cpu and motherboard you are ? Model name ?
@@ultimate_worm actually i have a 2019 pc build it had core i5 8th gen and gigabyte b360 gaming hd motherboard which supports 8yh and 9th gen cpu
I have only upgraded the gpu 7800 xt and msi 1000w psu
@gurpindersinghmuttar ohk so you can try the steps i have mentioned above
i wanted to change my 2400 to 3200 for gaming , But now i see 2400 🔥
Yesss but you can try overclock from bios
@@ultimate_worm overclock how can I use it
Please tell me master??
Which processor your system have ? And current ram frequency?
@@ultimate_worm
My laptop asus fx505dt gtx1650 ryzen 5 ram 16gb
Restart/power on your laptop. After pressing power button immediately start tapping delete button on keyboard. In few seconds your laptop will enter into bios. In overclocking section of bios you will find out a option called xmp/docp profile, Click on that and you will found 1 or 2 profile with different speeds just select any of them. And then you can save & reboot your laptop
thanks for the info
So. Same shit! Thank you!
Yes 😁
I have 2 ram stick of 8 gb..both are 2933mhz ram will it run the processor....please reply❤❤
Which processor?
@@ultimate_worm ryzen 5 5600x
Yes definitely it will run
@@ultimate_worm thank you so much i will buy it ..
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i have Sapphire Nitro+RX6800 16GB normal and Pocessor intel Core i9-7900X and Motherboard MSiPro X299 LGA2066 on Quad Channel Kingston Fury Renegade Black 2666MHz CL-13 but work's 3200MHz it XMP very nice for me but i can use 4200MHz my Motherboard its the max i can put on it
Kingston renegade is good ram sticks
i compared two specs and it said that one device had higher cpu speed but the other device had higher ram speed. whats the difference between CPU SPEED and RAM SPEED?
Both speeds are different but they both cpu and ram rely on each other, but a higher speed cpu will give you much difference than higher speed ram
@@ultimate_worm okaayy noted thankyouu
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Could you test on a better gpu like a 2080 super or a 4060? There is massive bottle neck here so kind of a unfair comparison
I have 5600Mhz CL36 lexar thor i was thinking about trying to overclock it to 6000Mhz and Cl32 and put the voltage from 1.25V to 1.35V would that be do able idk whats reasonable overclock for ram as i’ve only ever done Cpu and GPU
i have gtx 1080 and upgraded to 5 5600x yesterday and upgraded ram to 16gb 3200mhz today lol.
5600x is very good cpu
bro B450m use ddr4 3200 ???can support?
Yes it will support
Great video
For work, it doesn't really matter. For gaming it is but not much difference, somewhere 2-5%
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So the conclusion is GPU spesification more important that RAM with high Mhz right?
For the addition, I like how the editing in this video & Thanks you to made this video!
Later on after making this video i realised that,
If u have average gpu. Low-mid range gpu(in my case my gtx1660) u wont notice any huge difference in different speed ram. It only starts to matter when your gpu & cpu both are powerful. Specially gpu
i’m using a gtx 1650 and was going to upgrade to 2x8gb 3600mz ram as i’ve only got 1x8gb of ram rn with 3000mz, should i get 2x8gb 3600mz ram or 1x8 3000mz ram (btw i dont know what motherboard i have)
and i have a intel i3
Which generation i3 u have ? If lower than 11th gen then stick with 3000mhz and save your money, there will be no benefit of getting 3600mhz
Your GPU is constantly at 96-100%
It’s a good system nonetheless gpu bottleneck is the preferred bottleneck out of all
Man...i just got a 3200mhz stick. Wish I'd gone for 3600 😭😭
Not a big issue, you can further overclock it upto 3400-3500 or if ur ram stick have good e or b die chip then you can do 3600 also
my 3200mhz corsair vengeance can run 3600mhz at cl18 lol
@dijimond1744 good oc
Welp, guess I gotta go get some 2666mhz RAM for my Ryzen, boys
Can i use 8gb 2400mhz and i have 8gb 3200hz in laptop second slot
If u use a 2400hz memory with 3200mhz one then both will automatically defaulted to 2400mhz. But u can manually set speed
Is it true that RAM will have huge impact in the following setup?
CPU: Ryzen 5 4500
GPU: RX 6600
motherboard: Gigabyte A520M H
16 GB 2666Mhz
I just want to play LoL at stable high FPS (180 or something).
But now it decays overtime in game, from average 130 to 110 or something.
Some1 mentioned I have a relative weak CPU/RAM combo. Can anyone tell if e.g. 8/16 GB of 3200Mhz RAM will solve this or is my CPU the issue as well?
Dont go overkill, buy 3200mhz ram and you easily overclock it to 3600mhz. Even without overclocking you will be fine
Is CL 16-18-18-38 good for gaming
Yes it is good 💯
Mine is 2400hz its really good as based this result
but i dont have a ryzen i have a intell i5 would that still work and i have a 750ti graphics card
As your graphics card is low end so there will be no difference no matter which ram u choose 3200mhz is sweet spot
@@ultimate_worm alright thank you
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why did you have lower fps on your best sticks, 3200 cl15 and 3600 cl17, than any of your 2k speed sticks or the one 4000 at CL19 (??!!??!)??????
3200 is where it's at
nice, ou are amzing
Thankyou brother 🤝
Did you do this with infinity fabric set to half the memory value in bios, it might change your values a lot, if you didn’t can you do another upload with tgat
Will do another video with infinity fabric feature. Thankyou for the suggestion brother 👍❤️
@@ultimate_wormthanks
A subscribe will be helpful ❤️
@@ultimate_worm sure
Thank you
very well done video
Thankyou sir ❤️
Looks like the 2666 one is preforming the best on games.
Well budget 6 cores cpu now can be so cheap that seem like buying new ram to replace old ram don’t really make sure for my case. I may buy ryzen 5 5500 to replace my old build very soon, it is only around $90 for a new one over here. I already have 16gb 2133 ram, if I buy 16gb 3200 ram that would be like 50% of the new cpu price for like average 5% fps gain in gaming and almost no improvement for anything else like software stuff.
Bro 5000series ryzen it a so slow ram 2133 lol,bro you need to use atleast 3200 ram speed cuz you losing not just 5%
When the new models( ryzen 1000 series) come is a angry ram speed not like a old ones fx6000 series it low speed, for use 100% of the cpu performance (ryzen) use minim 3200 ram,change and you will see for sure more then 5% performance
You need to run real benchmarks for delicate tests like this
sir how bout on my case i have 2 4gb ram and im going to add 8gb ram with 3200mhz it is good or wrong mix of ram?
Mixing ram is not that bad, but there's one thing for example, if your system have a low speed ram like 2666 and if you add 3200 speed ram, the 3200 speed ram will slow down it self to match the speed of 2666 ram