Drinker's Chasers - Witcher Blood Origin: The Worst Fantasy Show Of 2022?
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- Опубликовано: 29 дек 2022
- It seems just about everyone hated the ill-fated Witcher spinoff. But how bad was it? Was it worse than Rings of Power? Willow? She-Hulk? Let's find out.
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ME, 1972-2020: Please adapt my favorite fantasy novels to film!
ME, 2020-PRESENT: Please don't adapt my favorite fantasy novels to film!
I was just thinking about this a few days ago.
@@tired5 It's the old Chinese curse: "May you obtain your heart's desire."
Be careful what you wish for....
It's like the morons who wanted a new star wars that was different from the prequels, just because they couldn't understand the genius of the story that George Lucas wrote and we ended up with that abomination of a sequel trilogy as a result.
It's so true.
I used to get excited as a kid and teen when they announced a movie adaptation of books and games.
Some were good others weren't, but we were atleast optimistic about it.
Peter Jackson set the bar high and spoiled us.
Now I just roll my eyes why it's announced that some company is going to violate yet another IP.
@@curranlakhani thats a lie. ANYONE with a bit of imagination and a respect for the source material could have made a decent Star Wars movie/show. But instead, Disney and the powers within were more interested in making fun of a rich old storyteller than showing how much better they were than him. Its PATHETIC!
Rings of Power - “I am going to be the worst fantasy show this year”
Willow - “Hold my beer”
Blood Origins - “Hold my Jaskier “
High Guardian Spice:
"Whoever wins gets to be my live-action counterpart."
Wheel of Time: "Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!"
@@ellugerdelacruz2555 Fantasy in animation isn't that much better. Dragon Age Absolution, Dota Dragon's Blood, Dragon's Dogma, last season of The Dragon Prince, everything being mediocre at best
@@ulaznar
High Guardian Spice:
"Woah really?? Sheesh, wrong club then I guess..."
@@ulaznar Don't know how the fuck Dota can fucked up really bad with their animation... they have a whole warcraft 3 lore and big money, and they can't make an animation like their competitor LoL with much smaller lore.
As a Polish fan of Witcher who grew up with the books. I am not going to touch this garbage
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No one should touch this tbh
Agree. As a german I say we need on fantasy and in real a new ride of the winged husars. Please bring them back. We real native europeans need to stick together and bring the trash out. You see in USA what happens when you wait too long.
Serb here. Imagine what they would do to our history and mythology. Sorry for you, bro
*shudder*
Rel
I'm a Polish person, not that it means much, but watching one of our greatest cultural exports get butchered over and over again kinda hurts my soul.
No matter how used I got to watching terrible media, seeing The Witcher get disrespected will always bother me.
In all fairness, butchering anything Polish is kind of a world sport.
@@Kyle-sr6jm don’t you mean: anything French?
@@Kyle-sr6jm spot on
Too white, bruh.
@@Kyle-sr6jm That's fair actually.
"They didn't listen to me so I killed them all" Truly a hero princess.
Women.
So now I'm going to sing you a song. You better listen.....
So justice, such fair!
But just think of the world view of the writers. Complete whack jobs with no soul.
She is quite interesting character. Not very original but interesting.
My favorite part of the show was when Jennifer Lawrence did the first male kiss in TV history ever. Stellar moment ❤️
LMAO
Dude u killin me 😅
She cured my cancer
You would expect the best kiss from an Oscar winner😘
I fucking hate these "Jennifer Lawrence was the first X" jokes. They became old after 1 day. Lawrence should be jailed (or at least blacklisted) for stealing other actresses valour.
They had 7 days left of the year and only 4 episodes, but by god they did it. I'm genuinely impressed.
Way to look on the bright side of this dumpster fire 😂👏
me too man. Could not believe my eyes when see that they managed to make a show worse than ROP
What's so sad is that Cavill took the role because he was a big fan of the games and books, it's literally the dream to have an actor who's passionated about the universe you're making a TV show about. But of course they gave this show to not only people who don't like the source material, but who even laugh at the books and the games and just want to use this universe to put into it their political message no one cares about. Thank God for the 3 Witcher games, at least we had one really good adaptation of this amazing universe, but it's sad because the TV show could have been a masterpiece if it had been made by people who are fans of the books
Omg that’s true they beat Willow and Rings of Power for worst show of the year. Congrats!
yeah total garbage, go woke, go broke. Glad these leftists are losing the culture war, proof is this show and its ratings, even critics hate it
There was an episode of TNG in which someone came onto the Enterprise who had to use sign language (it was deaf actor Howie Seago) and Worf, whose race doesn't have deaf people because anyone not perfect is disposed of virtually at birth, comments on what a wonderful way it would be to communicate in combat - silently, so that the enemy couldn't overhear. It wasn't exactly a brilliant piece of writing, but at least it showed the writers were thinking about what they were doing. And that was in the 1980s.
IQ was higher then
Jericho had a deaf actress as a lead, and didn't make a big deal out of it, the character was great.
@@chrispekel5709 Nah.. writers just had real life experiences and did not feel entitled to vomit their frustration in their writing. ;)
I thought they missed an opportunity with the walking dead, they had a deaf character but it always seemed to be a crutch for the people around her. i thought they could all pick up on sign language and use it to move quietly and set up ambushes and develop her as an indispensible character.
Wasnt there another episode where Geordi's visor saves an alien race that would've basically aborted somebody with flaws like him?
"The Worst Fantasy Show Of 2022?"
Careful, Drinker - there's still one more day left in 2022!
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Amazon just announced Day of the Wizard which will reveal that Gandalf was actually a women who Reincarnated As a man after meeting guyladreil
@@nathank2289 why would u put this out there to the universe?be careful of wishful thinking
How is Wheel of Time doing?
Henry Cavill: "You could not live with your own failure. And where did that bring you, Netflix? Back to me."
''Henry Cavill, please take me from behind''
Don't do it Henry!! It's a trap!
What amazes me more is, there's ACTUAL fans of the show! And they're genuinely upset that this show has a bad rating!😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
what else is new
Every time something gets massive hate there's always a very vocal annoying fanbase with no standards that defend/ignore even the most egregious flaws to the movie/show
@@wlfmanjack
"There's a sucker born every minute"
Or so they say.
They're not really fans, they've probably not even seen it. Some people just pretend to be outraged and virtuous because they hate themselves.
Probably less fans of the show and more adherence of the message.
If no one encourages the writers and show runners, then they won’t feel good about themselves. ❄️ ❄️
Every single strong woman we have is the exact same thing in phantasy, she refuses to do her duty by birth, gets unmatched power, then does whatever the fuck she wants whenever she wants with no regard for the people around her and there's never any consequences.
And we can see how that has influenced the culture...
They’re all just typical post-modern American women put in a fantasy setting. No positive personality traits or sense of personal accountability whatsoever.
Duty by birth…….WTF does that mean……loser statement mate
A bit like Megan Markle?
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It‘s plain insulting to every single woman that has ever existed. Just git gud.
Zapp Branagan "I knew the Killbots had a preset kill limit. So I threw waves of my own men at them until they shutdown. "
Zapp*
@@ballbatboy dam autocorrect
This show is simply “Nothing, Nowhere, None at Once”.
Pretty much
Nice
The thing that shocked me most about WBO was that the show supposedly had writers! I had imagined the scripts were put together by someone throwing those magnetic words onto a fridge door.
I reckon the story and script were constructed by algorithms and the writers are a distraction.
was the same writers from witcher s1 and 2. they hit it on the head when they say this is the witcher they wanted to make and it really sounds like cavill was the only thing holding it together
I genuinely believe a tankful of manatees with rubber balls could have strung together a more coherent and enjoyable plot.
I am still convinced that all these abysmal new woke shows are actually written by an AI bot trained with ESG-DEI woke principles. There are no humans deserving of the name involved in writing these shitshows.
@@clogs4956 My man, don't diss on algorithms that hard. They're actually pretty capable.
WBO is a masterpiece. Just what the founding Lawrence intended when she invented fantasy, fiction, and indeed language itself. We are truly blessed.
Most people don't realise that "Mother!" was a documentary.
Jennifer Lawrence was the first woman.
All Hail the Lawrence!
Jennifer walked so that WBO could fly
They are always so horrified by the idea of arranged dynastic marriages - but only from the female pov. The dude on the other end of the deal is in the same boat and, quite frankly (judging by the way they think princesses should behave) is probably getting the raw end of it.
"Ticked all the boxes but where's the story?" Describes most of what's being made these days. Can we please have more like Andor? It's depressing to see that bad ratings are having zero effect on the direction of movies these days, and if anything, it's getting worse.
If Andor had come out before all the crap Star Wars TV shows it would've been big, instead it came out after the franchise had been buried.
Elves in Witcher Blood Origin looked like Discount Elves from Rings of Power.
They got the used ear pieces at a discount.
It's not hard to make black characters just make them a civilization or colony give them a name or name of race to go by boom done black elf's make no sense unless they were labeled as dark elves
The Shanara Chornicles had better elves
Jesus Christ lol
It's always cheaper to hire cosplayers, right? :D
you could tell, for example, yen's violet eyes were consistently colored with cgi while geralt's yellow eyes were visibly contact lens. it's the small things that make it or break it and to be honest we all saw it coming.
My favourite part of the show is when the dwarf tells the white elf that he’ll never understand how much they made her struggle and then he apologized for something he never did
and then he dwarfed after saying "is time to change and do better time". making it the wokest honkiest show that has ever been showered
Definitely took some effort with willow and rings of power but they did it. Never underestimate the power of wokeness to shit on a great franchise
If it's not the messaging in the plot it'll be the inexperience of someone hired because of their identity that ruins it.
Just like the Hollywood bosses put Blacks in every single Shakespeare story. Stories about White history and White societies. In Much Ado About Nothing, they make the king of England an African. In Hamlet, they fill the Danish court with Blacks. And of course they make Othello a Black, though he was actually a Moor, being an Arab - but they make sure to give Stone Age Africans a false history by turning Egyptians, Greeks and Moors into Blacks, and of course Hannibal of Carthage. But if you point out that this is propaganda, your career is destroyed.
I couldn't agree more.
Honestly Willow wasn’t that great to begin with…
@@JayJay5244 no it wasn’t great. willow was good. Willow the show is dogshit.
Nah, Rings of Power still holds that title. As at least Blood Origin is over in 4 episodes and doesn't burn a billion dollars.
RoP is going to thold the shite-per-dollar record for a long time.
The decades of the 80's, 90's, and 00's all had a year or two that seemed like everything released was a blockbuster. Where you had great movies being overshadowed by historic movies. 2022 will be remembered as the year where it was a race to the bottom. I hope Drinker does a year in review type video and just remind us all all the bad came out this year and that they just kept getting worse.
There were a few bright spots, thankfully. The Boys, Reacher, Bullet Train, the Northman, Puss’n Boots the Last Wish just to name a few.
Shit, the guys who worked on the Northman should have been in charge of the Witcher shows in my opinion.
Hey it's only the beginning of the decade, we can still lower the bar even further
It all started way back in 2009 when JJTrek released. 22 is nothing special
Fuck yeah, it’s fucking depressing being 56 atm, considering all the great entertainment I’ve been privileged with over the years.
When evil people write a story, the evil person in it is the "hero".
And the supposedly good person is evil as hell eg ROP Galadriel and the Harfoots; Wanda in Wanda Vision, etc
I mean there is nothing wrong with having villains as protagonists, lots of works do that, but the difference is that while these works are made with purpose(Fleck is an ill person in the wrong world, Travis Bickle is in wrong place at wrong time at wrong job, Tony Montana is just a primitive with lots of cash, Tyler Dunden is an anarchist who wants to bring collapse to society, Alex Delarge is the result of chaotic world and Michael Corleone is crime lord) and often times dont justify their actions. These terrible writers have little self awarness. Im no writer and i cant write anything properly(I tried writing script for my comic, its really really bad dialogue! I mean REALLY BAD), and in all honesty, villains are easiest characters to write and thus are more memorable, that is if you can write a good villain
@@AxenfonKlatismrek The point is not that a villain cannot be a protagonist. Far from it. The point is that the "writers" think that what most normal people (not hollywood sociopaths) actually see as an irredeemable villain they actually consider the "good guy", the "hero", because they themselves have no working moral compass. They cannot really differentiate between good and evil, right and wrong, and see even the most heinous of crimes as negligible because they have all kinds of excuses for it, as raging untalented narcissists tend to do. Especially in Hollywood, where skill and talent have lost all meaning and all they care about is checking boxes to stroke their ego...
@@Erik-Winters You know, Hollywood is a place where only nepotism gets you anywhere. Take Gwyneth Paltrow, she is daughter of some actress i dont know, Dakota Johnson would be nowhere without her daddy Don.
these writers are there because they are cheap and easy to manipulate. I wonder if the She-Hulk, Rings of Power would be disasters if those writers had more freedom, although i doubt.
@@AxenfonKlatismrek I know what you mean, but when I look at movies and shows from just 10 years ago, the difference in quality is mindboggling. These days garbage gets greenlit again and again, and many of the writers and showrunners never did anything of value and came out of nowhere with 0 credits to their name, like those 2 clowns with rings of power. The head writer for She-Hulk even boasted that she bullied everybody at Marvel into submission where they were afraid being called racist or sexist. What a joke. It was obvious that back in the day much was done through nepotism, but there was also much that was done by talented and skilled people and that stood on its own. Where in Hollywood is that today? You really have to search hard and if you find something then its practically always done by somebody that has been in the field for almost half a century and should actually be in retirement. Almost everything done by the "younger" crowd in Hollywood is just toxic garbage and that does not bode well for what's to come...unfortunately.
Willow, ROP and Blood Origin: The Unholy Trinity of Fantasy Desolation.
Add Wheel of Time to it and we have the Quartet of Shittiness.
@@doublep1980 I'm still sad about WoT being such a letdown. I have more respect for Tolkien's books and think that they are the superior story, but Wheel of Time is still probably my favorite and most-read fantasy series (maybe tied with the Legend of Drizzit books). I knew that there was a good chance Amazon would f it up, but still had a spark of hope since this was before all the studios started piling on the shit fantasy adaptations. I know people had problems with the first Witcher season, but as someone that has never read those books or played the game, I had no reason to really dislike it and I do like Henry Cavill.
I disagree with Willow being up there. Its a fun and bumb fantasy show that doesnt seem to take itself so serious. Kinda like Legend of the Seeker, Xena etc. It should have had a Monster of the week format and more low budget episodes. "The gang enters a village and Bromans brother lives there. They do not get along but the local cows are missing and he reluctantly asks for his brothers help. At the end they make amends and they get a hint to where the whatever macmuffin is" I totally should be a writer.
@@hilmarlysgard2124 Don't you dare and compare the Willow Disney + series with Hercules & Xena.
Those shows were made by people with actual talent ( Sam Raimi was executive producer and most of the crew worked later on P. Jackson's LotR trilogy) and more importantly, they were fun and selfaware schlock.
Willow and all the other shows mentioned are dreck, made by no-talent hacks, more interested in pushing an agenda and making fun entertainment.
@@doublep1980 My main takeaway was that Willow and the other crap fantasy shows need more stupid episodes to make us connect with the characters. If Xena only had 6 episodes it wouldnt be the cult classic it is today.
I really miss the 90s campy dumb series. :(
The worst? Hard to tell. The competition has been extremely tight this year.
Terrible shows have always been made
@@reek4062 not as much as this year
About the "empress" and her ambiguous morality:
I have just watched the Drinker's video on Kenobi and I can see some similarities between Reeva's and tge empress' morality: both characters are written in a way that it seems that a lifetime of wrongdoing and crimes can be forgiveb by one single good act.
No, they f*cking cannot be forgiven like that. That's not how jurisdictions work at all!
But then it made me question: where does this idea come from in the first place?
And if I have to start it from the writers' perspective, probably when they had encountered with the law before and there was a chance they might get arrested or put into jail, they just f*cking bailed themselves out for a hefty sum and then no further questions asked. It kinda fits into the Hollywood lifestyle of these people :/
Pussy privilege.
This hits Poland, the setting of Witcher franchise, a lot harder than Germany did on 1939.
Are you trying to tell me there wasn't a plethora of black and Asian people roaming around Poland hundreds of years ago?!
I remember that joke from somewhere... Was it posted on another Drinker's video?
@@ThisIsNotYourFriend yeah one of our medival kings mentions in his journal that he saw bruce lee
If we go by the books, ciri can speak the language of coconut clappers, and Latin is a thing there. Does that mean it takes place in England?
Thanks for the stream cutouts. Im dont like watching 3 hour streams but id happily watch a stream cutout about a subject im interested in :)
Yeah man, I can’t do the streams. I feel like I’m snooping on another table while eating at a restaurant. I especially don’t like live streams based around super chats. The people that send them in always ask the worst questions and they are mostly irrelevant to the conversation and make the stream unwatchable. It’s especially bad if there is a cat or dog in the frame. People act like they’ve never seen a dog or cat, and I especially can’t stand the word “doggo”.
"We need to find a franchise that people love... and shit all over it."
Netflix showrunners... probably.
Peter Jackson and George Lucas in the 90s
I'm an amateur writer. I can imagine being hired to write for something like the Witcher. Not my favorite thing ever, but I have bills to pay. (I actually did really like Season 1 of the show though.) However, if I took the job, first thing I would do is sit down and read the stories and watch the games being played. I'd also read a good bit of the fan commentary to see what they liked, felt was important, didn't like, etc. Only then would I start to write and try to write in a way that would please the fans. That's respect for the fans. If I screwed up anyway, I'd be able to say honestly, "I thought you would like it because of this and this." I think the fans would be patient under those circumstances and we could always get better as ST: TNG did after the first season.
Well the writers in these shows are arrogant dickheads led by toxic feminists who think fans are moronic children that need to be indoctrinated.
@@aldunlop4622 I'm just showing how easy it would be to do things the right way instead.
As a an amateur writer myself, hard same. I don't understand how people with no experience or active dislike for the source material keep getting these jobs. Cause I've applied for jobs with these companies.
@@Sarcastic_Sophist probably because of how critically acclaimed kotor 2 is, yet none of these writers seem to be able to match the caliber which was "what's his name" lol
@@EastlakeRasta7 Maybe, I really don't know. Does drive me up a wall at times, as it is a job I'd love to have.
Czech guy who discovered the books through The Witcher 1 over 15 years ago here. The Witcher was my life for the past several years. I even joined LARP group of Nilfgaardians called Nazair Brigade.
What I as a hardcore fan hate about everything that Netflix have done to The Witcher brand is how they americanized it and stripped it of it's distinctively Polish atmosphere because they don't understand the culture so they just turned it into something they know:
- the main Witcher show is a discount Game of Thrones
- Nightmare of the Wolf is a discount Castlevania
- Blood Origin is a discount Dungeons & Dragons
The reason why I fell in love with The Witcher is that it's so unique compared to other epic fantasy worlds but then came Netflix and turned into exactly the same thing we've seen being done over and over in the fantasy genre to the point that it became generic tropes so all the originality was lost and they've completely butchered the excelent story and characters from the books. How can someone fail so hard is beyond me.
If anybody cares I recommend checking out The Witcher Stories on RUclips. They're short fan films with original characters from the world of The Witcher and it captures the atmosphere perfectly with zero budget because it's done by people who love the books and the games and they know what made The Witcher so unique in the first place.
I also made a video which explains why I hate Blood Origin and all The Witcher Netflix projects in general if anybody is interested. ruclips.net/video/48RLOF6_3dk/видео.html
It's not that they did or didn't understand the culture, they're actively racist and dislike your culture, so they changed it.
@@LOCATIONREDACTED I would say it's both. They don't understand it but they also didn't even try to put in some effort to find out what made The Witcher great in the first place and just made it diverse because that's how they want to see society and they do it with everything.
Watching recent American productions, I've come to the conclusion that the American Hollywood elite is fundamentally unable to understand the concepts of ethnicity and culture and it really shows. They simply cannot comprehend why most people value their ancient heritage and connect culture with land and ethnic ownership. How could they? Look at their "old" buildings, just a bunch of random nondescript stone houses from 1600 onwards and some fake attempts at recreating what they left behind in Europe, while we in Europe can easily point to much more majestic buildings and monuments that are at least twice the age and have uncountably more history to them. So instead of trying to understand what they lost, they simply declare that they are the cool kids, we are wrong and should destroy all we inherited from so long ago.
This conversation got me wondering if there aren’t actually any good writers even available at this stage to replace the bad ones at this stage as they’ve all been killed off at the education stage? I can’t imagine university aged students in literature or English etc that haven’t already been failed or driven out at the educational stage? Love to hear you guys discuss that topic at some stage. Where will the pool of future better writers come from?
Good point! And I agree. Through out human history one of the characteristics of great writers has been their education with the great writing of the past which has stood the test of time. For example it used to be that ALL educated students of the past read some Shakespeare. I did in High School! Did any of the writers of The Witcher Blood Origin ever read ANY Shakespeare? I would be willing to bet money none of them have ever even been within twenty feet of an actual copy of Shakespeare. ALL they study in Universities and public schools today are "classics" of intersectional feminazi literature which were written the day before yesterday. They are people completely ignorant of thousands of years of human thought, history, and culture. They are simply reflecting their own complete ignorance covered over with their egotistical mask of, "I have a degree".
@@r.blakehole932 Make no mistake mate. They probably do read, dissect and Analyse classical literature but just in how inherently topically masculine these stories are and how they don't " REFLECT THE WORLD WE LIVE IN TODAY!!!"
We're here. We just don't have the connections to be I'm hollywood
I believe after the Great Writers Strike which lead to a union Hollywood has been training AI to write scripts
A lot of stages in your comment, it's kind of distracting to your point. No confrontational desire here, just a friendly heads up.
Witcher Blood Origin: "I am the worst fantasy show that doesn't respect the canon source material!"
Rings of Power: "Hello there."
Willow: "Join the club, we have jackets!"
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It's horrible how all three are mixed up in my mind
High Guardian Spice:
"You guys got room for an animated series? Cuz I wanna know which one of you is my live action equivalent. Y'know, in terms of writing incoherencey."
Rings of Power season 2, "Hold my beer."
Wheel of Time: "Welcome to the Club!"
Medieval Europe needs to do a lot more to bring up their ESG scores
Exactly, let's retro-change everything. I'm pretty sure that Charles IV of Luxembourg was African-Asian originally born as a woman.
@@tomasburian6550 how brave and stunning
@@tomasburian6550 How diverse. I am literally shaking right now. I have never felt so empowered right now.
The only positive to come from this show is that without it we may never have gotten the stream of Gary playing The Witcher, the greatest few hours in the history of the Internet.
Tbh, judging the thing on its own merits, I kinda like the idea of going way back in time and trying to uncover more history of the world. Too bad it was like having a comatose person run a marathon.
The main Witcher series vs Blood Origin shows us exactly what Henry Cavill's impact and influence was.
I know not everyone enjoyed Witcher season 1 and 2, but by contrast they are masterpieces. Blood Origin is exactly what Netflix and writers wanted to create without pushback from Cavill. There's no doubt in my mind this is how bad Witcher would be, and how bad season 4 will be without Henry there to help them.
I'm sorry, but Witcher season 1 and 2 were only held up by Cavill. Rest of the show was just as bad as Blood Origin and at the time, it got just as slammed for its diversity-attempts, not to mention disjointed narrative that was off-putting to a lot of viewers in season 1.
I think after season 1 Henry Cavill saw the writing on the wall and after making numerous attempts to change the Titanic, Season 3 was probably the soonest he could exit out of his contract.
Don't worry season 4 will be fantastic compared to this. It won't exist.
@@zuriyel5368 The books were pretty disjointed so I quite enjoyed that there were context ques as to when something was going on.
It didn't need hand holding.
@@zuriyel5368 I thought it was good but then again this is from someone who had zero knowledge of Witcher lore.
Diversity isn't a problem, it only sucks if it's woke and has a woke agenda. Which I didn't feel for Witcher (season 1&2). Resident Evil sucked too but people who thought it was woke just don't understand what woke means or didn't watch it. Having black people in the show doesn't make it woke lmao. It's only woke if there are intersectional feminist and CRT themes.
Blood Origin was woke because it was clearly making it a point to detach ethnicity / race from nationality, it was purposely pushing diversity to a comical degree + it had the mary sue formula which Witcher didn't have.
A show based on a fantasy book that was inspired by Polish history and mythology gets turned into California slop. I'm sure that the average Pole appreacites that
And 90% of Poles are Roman Catholic. Not American Catholic, the traditional Catholic.
Not really. Books were inspired by many diffrent european cultures. You have there celtic, slavic, nordic and baltic elements. Lot of stories are based on German or French fairy tales. While there are more celtic or arthurian elements than Polish/Slavic.
They checked every box except for the one marked "Talented".
Netflix are not clowns, they are the entire circus entertainment.
They have been poisoned.
I Like How They're Punishing Each Other By Making Them Watch These Terrible Shows.
Why do you capitalize each word? Looks stupid and has no point.
Beeeedj
@@smelltheglove2038 Why Do You Capitalize Each Word? Looks Stupid And Has No Point.
Man, before this winter I thought Rings of Power was going to be the worst thing butchered in 2022. Then Willow came out and lowered my expectations. Then Blood Origins came out and lowered them further. This is a dark time to be a fantasy fan
I remember a fantasy series of books called The Belgariad by David Eddings in the early eighties. In the group of characters there is a guy called Silk who is a prince, a thief and a womaniser. He is a Prince of Drasnia and teaches others about the Drasnian secret language which I think is rather like sign language. They use it to communicate without speaking when they are in tricky spots.
So the sign thing has been done way before and very well done it was.
I recommend The Belgariad.
I don't recommend The Witcher BO.
The writing of that series is like a hot cup of chocolate on a wintery afternoon, smooth and heartwarming.
The fact that these professional movie/tv critics had to "force" themselves to watch this show is really telling.
I wouldn't be surprised if they just skim through it and then write their reviews.
this is the kind of shit that makes me so glad i don't really watch TV and stuff like Netflix anymore
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95% of new shows and movies produced by streaming services are wet piles of dogshit. Thankfully I’m good at sniffing out the 5% that are actually worth a person’s time.
My favorite part of the show was when they sent an 8 person "army" to conquer other worlds.
They explicitely called it a scouting force. Not sending the entire army for that makes sense.
What doesn't make sense is sending people in heavy armor. You'd want them to be quick and agile, not get tired from lugging around all that heavy gear (and no visible packs for food or water or camping gear).
What else doesn't make sense is sending Evil Mage's henchwoman along. She is your hostage to keep Evil Mage in line. But they just let her go along and instantly lost all leverage. If they played it smart, he wouldn't have had the chaos magic either.
What else doesn't make sense is being stuck in a famine, and rather than guarding grain stores, guarding trade routes, and quelling unrest, the decision is to invade other worlds. Her empire is on the verge of collapse, and the stupid bint decides to plan an invasion. The empress who wanted lasting peace starts wars rather than build up her empire...
@@slaapt Must have missed the line where they said it's a scouting force.
In any case, you are correct on all of these points, I would actually add that sending the commander of the whole army on a scouting mission is also a terrible idea.
Honestly this show is just.... oof. I don't even understand the point of it, why is this story worth telling and worth remembering in the "in universe modern day"? I mean, at the very end, instead of saving the world, they literally break it and usher the destruction of their whole civilization...
At this point, my expectations for anything new are so low that ants couldn't limbo under them. We have truly reached rock bottom.
Right? All my friends always ask me “oh hey man are you excited for…” I’m always like nah, they’re gonna ruin it.
I would love to see you guys do a series picking apart the "Worst Box Office Bombs in Movie History". Cover several points:
1. Why did anyone think this was a good idea? -- go over what the ostensible strengths of the production were, going in, and compare it to successful productions of its type.
2. When did the red flags start to pop up? -- when did things start to veer off-course? Did course corrections make things better, or worse?
3. How did the tragedy unfold at the box office?
You guys are the best people I can think of, to make these sorts of painful lessons clear, and even enjoyable in some dark way. (You should _definitely_ get Chato involved, to add experience / humor / humanity to the production.)
My favorite Rotten Tomatoes review of this: "If you took all the money it cost to produce it, put it on a pyre, set it on fire and recorded it, it would be more entertaining than the series itself."
I’m 56 and I’ve been pretty spoiled with awesome music, tv shows and movies my whole until the last maybe 5 years (15 for music) when literally everything is crap. It so depressing, worse I feel really bad for people in their 20s, or maybe below 30, when this is all they’ve ever known. There’s a strange negativity in young people these days about anything “before their time” too, they think old stuff is crap. Like they don’t even know who Led Zepellin is for instance. A lot of these “fans” of modern shows seem to be just brainwashed sycophants without any critical reasoning skills that just don’t know what”good” is.
Poor Michelle Yeoh. She needs a new agent. Her current one has dropped her into a bunch of crap TV shows, one after another...
True. I'll say this though, at least she was the only elven character to look vastly different from humans. I don't need elves in every fantasy universe to be like the LOTR ones, but they should at least invite curiosity from the viewers by showing how other humanoid races are different.
and one of the best films of the year.
I think she’s massively overrated. She does nothing for me.
I agree the show was terrible, but this tweet hasn't aged well.
When your writers suffer from the Dunning-Kruger effect their characters will only amplify it.
The 'Stunning-Braver Effect'.
A couple of years ago i watched the first episodes of shanarah chronicles (or whatever it was called) with my roommate and we always joked how someone could make such bad fantasy series but holy hell that was a masterpiece in writing if u suffer through anything that came out this year related to fantasy
yep and librarians … masterpieces …
One thing that bugs me is that these are supposed to be elves. But they look and act and dress and speak and behave like humans. They could get rid of all the prosthetic ears and call them humans and it would literally change NOTHING.
They really thought the sign language thing was such a big thing huh? Anyone remembers the Hercules tv show? Where a member of Hercules' team was a mute who did sign language? And he was a fun competent character who wasn't there just to tick a checkbox. Ah the good old days...
I believe that Rings of Power, Willow and Blood Origin are the creations of Mr. Burns' 1000 monkeys with 1000 typewriters.
Rings of Power: I’m the worst fantasy show of 2022
Willow: No I am
Blood origin: Amateurs
Drinker “just watch the first 4”
Mauler “oh, that’s not so bad”
Me “sneaky Drinker…” 😂😂
10:40 they didn't lose Henry cavill. The show runners chased him away because he actually wanted to tell the story of the witcher.
And now theyre shitting on him at every possible turn because he didnt do exactly as they asked, always, in every situation ever. What a gamer bro amirite
Xena had the best female warrior redemption arc.
I've seen about 35 minutes of the first Rings of Power episode, and have no intentions of even checking this out, but I struggle to believe it can possibly be worse.
It's not worse. Blood Origin is only 4 eps and consistently bad, whereas Rings of Power is 8 eps and becomes dumber as the episodes go on.
The funny thing - there is a witcher polish fan production called "Pół WIeku Poezji Później" ("Half a Century of Poetry Later") that was made with like non-existing budget that still looks better than Blood Orgins.
Here is a link if you interested in checking it out (its available on YT): ruclips.net/video/5GLtk2cLRu4/видео.html
In every Chaser's episode, Drinker and MauLer are always the dynamic duo.🍻
That "I'm sad because i was to be married off and couldn't decide on my own life" narrative is one I've seen a lot, but ladies have more autonomy in western cultures than men do at this point. Men don't even get to decide if they're going to be parents, women have that choice almost exclusively, and men only get to be this if a woman permits him. She doesn't need permission to be a mother, just a sperm bank or someone drunk or thirsty enough to go for it. Careers here in the USA also open more doors for women than men, and women excel in entertainment and social media careers where men struggle to carve out a name for themselves with all the hard work and skill they can muster.
I was re-watching a season of Game of Thrones and in one episode, not long after Arya and Sansa were both back in Winterfell discussing their lives since being separated, and their ongoing sibling rivalry, one of them, Arya goes into a spiel about how 'we live in a world where women can't decide what to be for themselves', and I'm thinking, this is coming from a highly trained assassin that wanted to be an assassin to a noblewoman to in a leadership role that wanted to be a leader. Fekkin' wat?!
Because ummm... I don't know. I had absolutely no idea about this, but are you aware that J R.R. Martin is a Feminist himself?
Main character: So I don't have to play second fiddle to a man my whole life?
Writers: No, be your own woman, find your own way - burn down some orphanages if they need burning..
Always remember: you're stunning and brave - don't let anyone tell you otherwise!
I give you all credit for watching the stuff (or at least giving it a try) before you offer your critiques instead of just blindly ragging on stuff like so many people. It saves the rest of us from having to watch this stuff even though we know these woke shows will be total shit before you all review it. Thank you for sacrificing your time so we don't have to! I'd rather watch your critiques than these actual shitshows. Happy New Year to you all!
Drinker's liver has saved hundreds of thousands from a horrible fate.
Trusting in someone else to form your own opinion seems rather silly to me.
@@MrBottlecapBill because i would not want to give this dumpster fire any of my time nor views
This atrocity of a show has probably been the hardest thing to hit Poland since Blitzkrieg.
Not often you get an A List Actor genuinely interested in a Genre, it's books, it's lore and Universe. Then to have him come aboard would be EPIC!
Only to attempt to use him and subvert everything about it, instead trashing it's characters and lore, derailing it, in order to hijack it and use it to champion your insanity is beyond arrogance. You could see it coming off the rails during it's first season, the second was a mess, borderline disaster. Not tuning in for the Third thanks, even with Cavill aboard, it's done. That's why he left. He has every right to be disappointed and perhaps even bitter about it.
What I don't understand is the BIG PICTURE.
What do Disney, Amazon, WB, NetFlix and the rest hope to gain? They all may have DEEP Pockets, but surely hemorrhaging ocean fulls of money would have them rethinking their insanity. BUT NOPE. They have all Doubled and Tripled down on it.
WHY?
What could you possibly hope to accomplish, other than K ILL N your Golden Goose and there by DESTROYING your Revenue Source and PROFITs?
Is the BIG PICTURE all about George Orwell's 1984? V for Vendetta? The Dystopian Utopia of a Brave New World? Fahrenheit 984? Animal Farm? Hunger Games? District 12?
Attempting to turn the Vast Majority of the Populace, who tend to be Centrists, into SHEEPLE? Serfs? Slaves of the State?
Socialism?
Has it ever turned out well?
Ever?
I just love how this thing came flying in with a drop kick through the door to claim its rightful tropy of "worst fantasy of 2022" during the last week of the year.
I liked Henry Cavil's sword work in the first Witcher, for an actor he went the full bit. It can be picked apart, but only by expert swordsman. I'd have liked to see him go further.
I cannot wait for how they approach Milva’s ‘situation’ in season 3.
@@mb1326 Zero chance the writers will care, they are gonna shove that shit in asap and have her snipe Nilfgaard generals from a mile away while she's roundhouse kicking two dudes while 8 months preggy
It seems that Netflix is funding fan films now. But this show gives fan films a bad name.
That’s an insult to tan films tbh. At least they care about the source material.
Anti-fan films are what these are.
"Now"? Netflix has been pretty consistent with this stuff for many years.
Between all of the bad Fantasy movies and shows coming out, it makes me worried about the Mistborn Adaptation supposedly in the works. Brandon Sanderson may have a good portion of creative control but I can't help but be worried about potential corpo meddling...
It'll go the same as the others. His level of creative control will not outweigh corporate mandates since they're the ones with the money.
Kelsier will get it in the ass. The guy is an older mentor who is a man and his protégé is a young woman? No way he is going to be treated well. Hell just about all the supporting characters are men so that is going to end well.
Impressed if you managed 4 episodes. I got through about 40mins and felt traumatised and needed a safe space to recover.
Wheel of Time held the crown of ‘worst fantasy show’ but it’s tough now in 2022 with Willow and Blood Origins.
Eile to Fjall: Our clans were at war and you killed my cousin and poisoned some of my people and I'll remind you of that over and over.
Fjall to Eile: Didn't you set a house filled with children on fire?
Eile: Yeah, but I'm travelling and playing music, I'm clearly making the world a better place.
At least Arcane recognizes that the characters aren't exactly moral paragons.
Part of the problem is that writers go to university, but don't actually get educated. They are not told when their writing is terrible. Critiques are often done by their peers rather than by the professor.
Funny you say about the deaf character, they didn’t bother to make you, the audience, invested in her before she was killed off. Steven King, asshat that he’s been in recent years, was always good at that, particularly in his books. He focused so hard on some of his random kills, you were convinced they were the main character for a few moments before their brutal death.
Nick from The Stand.
@@stevewhite6241 Nick was AWESOME! I remember in the novel, the bad guys in Las Vegas being surprised that he was the brains behind the good guy's strategies.
I liked the bit where Palpatine told the empress she could use his fully operational cheese fondue maker to seduce the nine kings of men into becoming teachers at Hogwarts.
8:18 The look on Nerdrotic's face is the perfect reaction to her explanation.
Gary: Netflix should be embarrassed
Netflix: we still have Cuties on the platform we don't do shame
The sign language thing is a decent idea though, it worked on Four Weddings. I would like to see a special forces film where they are using legit sign language on operations.
It worked in TNG as well, its a fine idea if handled by even moderately competent people
Drinker sits through this type of shit so we won't have to.
Lenny Henry has become the angel of death to my beloved fantasy.
Amazon : we will make the worst show of the year - ROP
Disney: no we will - willow
Netflix: merry Christmas, here’s the absolute worst show of the year! Blood origin
I thought it was Naomi on the CW.
Remember how House of the Dragon had two men kissing as well yet didn't make it a massive promotional thing as if that is one of the most important things about the show lol. It was just there and went well with the plot and the characters in question but wasn't a massive deal. They want to normalize these things in Netflix but make them seem like such huge points that it doesn't feel natural. If anything they make it seem abnormal by making such a huge deal out of a kiss.
Taggot and franny worship is disgusting and the woketards are obsessed with it. The older I get, the more I realize the villains won WWII.
Notice how it's only certain mythologies, heroes, fables, sagas and stories that are getting vandalised?
The Black Company fantasy novels by Glen Cook have two mute characters that communicate by sign language. And the mercenary band they're with realise fairly quickly that being able to communicate silently is incredibly useful for military operations. You know, just in case you're curious about seeing the idea done right.
The Maidens in Wheel of Time have a similar thing even though they aren't mute or deaf, and also actual awesome strong women instead of empty mary sues. (I refuse to acknowledge the existence of the tv series. No such thing was ever produced)
Great books!
8:11 they’re using the Red Dead Redemption 2 karma system where you can murder dozens and then greet people through town to build your honor back up.
Above and beyond every thing else what really got me was the Elves bit. They had pointed ears but were basically human. They didn't live longer, have any special abilities or act different. It's like a fantasy setting coat over a generic show.
Saloum uses sign language really well and in a way that's relevant to the plot. It also makes some dialogue scenes feel unique. And it never feels like it's in there to check a box or preach to the audience.
The three worst ideas in the History of this planet:
a) When a T-Rex started selling Caribbean cruises while a point of light was growing bigger and bigger in the sky
b) When a French entrepreneur set camp with a Napoleon-themed souvenir shop in the field where the battle of Waterloo would be fought in a few hours
c) When someone thought people would love Woke.
The Napoleon souvenir shop wasn't such a bad idea. It's still there today selling merch within sight of the lion.
@@Lttlemoi Yeah, but how can I put this to you...then, it was too soon, wasn't it...?
But the dino's idea was a a non starter.
One of the dudes that kissed is the future leader of the Wild Hunt, the main antagonist in the Witcher 3 game. His sexual orientation has absolutely nothing to do with his purpose. He's a gd psychopathic sage elf that travels through space and time for 1,000s of years searching for Ciri's power in order to harness world ending power. jfc. They trying to spin one of the most powerful villains (even without Ciri's power) in the Witcher universe as some dude with a broken heart over some other dude? Even if it was straight it'd still be dumb af. Because it's a being incapable of love and his story is so much deeper than who he's banging. Absolutely stupid.
"I was a Princess feeling sad & bored: that's why I decided to destroy everything." Who does that remind you of? 🤣
I don't know. What are you referencing?
We actually cancelled our Netflix this month. The only reason we waited was because my little brother asked if we could wait until the new sonic prime show was out.
there soo many animes and good korea movies and dramas you miss..have you seen The Kingdom? Medieval korean zombie drama..it even have 2 season and a prequel movie
Now you understand what a lot of us book fans have felt since season 1
Season 1 for me is ok as non Witcher fan that never play or read it..though i barely watch season2 as it become more unwatchable for me
Supernatural was a CW show and had a deaf character who recurred, was important to the protagonists, and proved herself useful multiple times. She was even portrayed as a love interest at one point.
And it was Supernatural lol.
Yeah. I was like. Wait.... Wasn't he in prison like 10 minutes ago? WTF is he doing in this swamp?
I also love how in a Medieval setting somehow they know where these folks are along the journey. They don't tell you how they know, they don't show you say a guard or some dude sending a crow or pigeon with the information. Nope, they just got a text or maybe TMZ covered it?
There are so many issues. One of the most annoying and is the narration ".... And 3 became four". Thank you, for that information. I had no idea, if you hadn't told me I would have been lost.
Also the Empress just puts a cloak on and magically no one can recognize her. Sure, why not.