@@insfrankestein6641 Of the ultimate titles it's probably the most enjoyable. Some of the stuff in Ultimate X-Men and The Ultimates just makes me extremely uncomfortable. Like Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver being a bit too close to each other, and Hulk constantly talking about how much thinking of Betty makes him want to "smash".
@@shinyocelot04archive Ultimate Xmen got better strangely enough after all the big names died and Kitty took control of the group. The stories later were very good and Kitty in the Ultimate Universe is probably my fave version of her. Ultimate Spider-man was great even once Miles took over and I think told stories you could only get with a younger spider-man so it was a fresh take in change of 616 Peter. Also I wasn't a fan of the Ultimate either but I did enjoy All-New Ultimates which was a younger team that was alot better to read.
I was expecting the "muscle bound maniac high as kite shooting big guns in the wide open" type of edginess instead of the "sexual assault and arson (also looking at you incel Hulk)" type of edginess.
I don't know why, but I can feel your pain. I read this book a long time ago and it's not worth your time reading something terrible that doesn't make sense.
Oh it was Ultimate Daredevil and Ultimate Electra was just hot trash and then the follow-up ultimate Electra was even worse and then was made it even worse is after that they barely did anything with Daredevil or Elektra. Elektra showed up a little bit in ultimate Spider-Man and Daredevil showed up in ultimate team up book then a few ultimate Spider-Man appearance and then he got killed off at ultimanium. So I don't know the ultimate Universe did not like Daredevil or Elektra but mainly Daredevil
I´m with you buddy, read it from 0 to Ultimatum over the last 2 Years. And the whole time i m searching for stuff like that, but i only found people yeeling how bad ultimatum was.(This Event just feels like a Bad-Trip, where the coherence of the world doesn t work anymore) sooo thanks! I will watch any of this Videos! This comment is just here, because i´m damn lazy in writing comments, but want you to know there are people who wanna see this ! Edit: And do you need a Intro? I´m a animator guy from germany, i think it would be a funny project.
This is one of my first comic books😅I was loving Ultimate Spiderman and wanted more of 1610, but even never knew peaked there. So this Elektra story lives rent free in my mind... unfortunately. The odd Rollercoaster of emotions that was the pacing and narrative decisions were already a tough sell to my girl a.t.t., but the Melissa stuff was just shocking out of nowhere; which sadly was common in the Ultimate universe. Also never knew the artist was a tracer or people felt strongly about him, cuz truthfully I kinda liked the art (despite the designs)😅specifically the parallel rose scenes of their meeting and parting. Confession time over!
Oh I am so sorry that you had to read Ultimate Daredevil and Ultimate Elektra. Honestly the book covers is only saving grace about the book The book is a hot trash on Daredevil never wear the daredevil suit but it's on every cover. I mean the ultimate universe did not like Daredevil or Elektra but mainly Daredevil he got the crappy side sadly. Honestly just read the Marvel's Knight lineup Elektra. There was some interesting things the ultimate Universe did but Elektra and Daredevil no not so much lol
I'm sick of the ultimate slander. you guys act like its so trash when it helped re invent so many of these characters, and gave us some incredible stories especially With Spider-Man FF and the Ultimates. Its like highlighting the worst aspects of 616 only. I'm really tired of people only pointing out the bad in the OG Ulitmate Universe while completetly discarding the good that came from it Its like if I used OMD, Civil War 2, Or when aptain Marvel did incest with her son and saying "Man 616 is so bad" while ignoring all the good stories Then casuals that don't actually read these book just parrot these opinions, sure Ultimate DD was derivative and just boring personally, but I think it's insane to call it the worst daredevil book when books like Daredevil end of days exists.
You guys are glazing a universe that hasn't even gotten 10 issues in (and really has only given fan service in Ultimate Spider-Man by having Peter be with Mary Jane, the Ultimates is the only truly good book of the new line that tries something new IMO we have seen married peter several times in Universes like Renew your Vows or MC2 with Spider-Girl) Ultimate and Ultimate Spider-Man along with Ultimate FF re-invented these characters for the modern age, so much of Raimi's Spider-Man takes form Ultimate in terms of world building. the MCU in terms of it's world building and designs is ripped straight from the Ultimates
Welcome to the Ultimate Universe. Where everyone that wasn't named Spider-Man was cursed with terrible writing.
Ultimate Spider-Man wasn't all that great imo
@@insfrankestein6641 Of the ultimate titles it's probably the most enjoyable. Some of the stuff in Ultimate X-Men and The Ultimates just makes me extremely uncomfortable. Like Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver being a bit too close to each other, and Hulk constantly talking about how much thinking of Betty makes him want to "smash".
@@insfrankestein6641 Def an opinion to have
@@shinyocelot04archive Ultimate Xmen got better strangely enough after all the big names died and Kitty took control of the group. The stories later were very good and Kitty in the Ultimate Universe is probably my fave version of her. Ultimate Spider-man was great even once Miles took over and I think told stories you could only get with a younger spider-man so it was a fresh take in change of 616 Peter. Also I wasn't a fan of the Ultimate either but I did enjoy All-New Ultimates which was a younger team that was alot better to read.
Fantastic 4 and the ultimates duolgy were good
I was expecting the "muscle bound maniac high as kite shooting big guns in the wide open" type of edginess instead of the "sexual assault and arson (also looking at you incel Hulk)" type of edginess.
@0:27 "No one has asked me to talk about this..."
Now you know why, Blake.
I don't know why, but I can feel your pain. I read this book a long time ago and it's not worth your time reading something terrible that doesn't make sense.
I read it and it made perfect sense.
zsasz is an actual book writer, he wrote 'Myth Of Mental Illness'
Wow this book sounded like a complete trainwreck
Then Ultimatum and Ultimates 3 became a bigger train wreck
@@jakew6162 indeed ultimates 3 and ultimatum are also garbage trainwrecks
Oh it was Ultimate Daredevil and Ultimate Electra was just hot trash and then the follow-up ultimate Electra was even worse and then was made it even worse is after that they barely did anything with Daredevil or Elektra. Elektra showed up a little bit in ultimate Spider-Man and Daredevil showed up in ultimate team up book then a few ultimate Spider-Man appearance and then he got killed off at ultimanium. So I don't know the ultimate Universe did not like Daredevil or Elektra but mainly Daredevil
@@treymykel indeed
I´m with you buddy, read it from 0 to Ultimatum over the last 2 Years.
And the whole time i m searching for stuff like that, but i only found people yeeling how bad ultimatum was.(This Event just feels like a Bad-Trip, where the
coherence of the world doesn t work anymore) sooo thanks!
I will watch any of this Videos!
This comment is just here, because i´m damn lazy in writing comments, but want you to know there are people who wanna see this !
Edit:
And do you need a Intro? I´m a animator guy from germany, i think it would be a funny project.
This is one of my first comic books😅I was loving Ultimate Spiderman and wanted more of 1610, but even never knew peaked there. So this Elektra story lives rent free in my mind... unfortunately.
The odd Rollercoaster of emotions that was the pacing and narrative decisions were already a tough sell to my girl a.t.t., but the Melissa stuff was just shocking out of nowhere; which sadly was common in the Ultimate universe.
Also never knew the artist was a tracer or people felt strongly about him, cuz truthfully I kinda liked the art (despite the designs)😅specifically the parallel rose scenes of their meeting and parting.
Confession time over!
@7:34 It might be a reference to Thomas Szazs, a psychiatrist and in fact, the Batman villain Zsasz was named after him.
Do Ultimates 2 part 2
How Salvator Larocca still gets work astounds me.
Greg Land, too. But still, how do both of those guys keep getting work?
Because tracing gets pages done quicker and within the deadline
Langstrom is from dc aka the manbat
I recommend Batman: Jekyll and Hyde. Very underrated story that slightly inspired the first Telltale game.
if this is the second worst, i want to see you cover the worst
Can you do Justice League gods and monsters the prequels for Superman Batman and Wonder woman there's also The 10 issue miniseries
I have this on a digital comics DVD. Elektra’s costume is in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3.
I wanna see part 2
Oh I am so sorry that you had to read Ultimate Daredevil and Ultimate Elektra. Honestly the book covers is only saving grace about the book The book is a hot trash on Daredevil never wear the daredevil suit but it's on every cover. I mean the ultimate universe did not like Daredevil or Elektra but mainly Daredevil he got the crappy side sadly. Honestly just read the Marvel's Knight lineup Elektra. There was some interesting things the ultimate Universe did but Elektra and Daredevil no not so much lol
If this is the 2nd worst Daredevil story than I wonder what the number 1 worst story featuring Daredevil would be
The she hulk show probably
How do you trace a toy?
I actually didn’t know she’d wear that outfit…. Sorry?
can you please finish ultimates 2 :(
I'm sick of the ultimate slander.
you guys act like its so trash when it helped re invent so many of these characters, and gave us some incredible stories especially With Spider-Man FF and the Ultimates.
Its like highlighting the worst aspects of 616 only.
I'm really tired of people only pointing out the bad in the OG Ulitmate Universe while completetly discarding the good that came from it
Its like if I used OMD, Civil War 2, Or when aptain Marvel did incest with her son and saying "Man 616 is so bad" while ignoring all the good stories
Then casuals that don't actually read these book just parrot these opinions, sure Ultimate DD was derivative and just boring personally, but I think it's insane to call it the worst daredevil book when books like Daredevil end of days exists.
I agree 100%
I am beyond sick of people parroting the same dogma over and over again with absolutely 0 nuance or serious engagement
Good job smoker this is some real nice bullshit you made here.🤨👎
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Wait,this story wasn't that bad why you people are critising this story??? just because it's happening in the ultimate universe doesn't make it bad.
I’m sorry, but I’m sayin it,
HICKMAN ULTIMATE > BENDIS/MILLAR ULTIMATE
You guys are glazing a universe that hasn't even gotten 10 issues in (and really has only given fan service in Ultimate Spider-Man by having Peter be with Mary Jane, the Ultimates is the only truly good book of the new line that tries something new IMO we have seen married peter several times in Universes like Renew your Vows or MC2 with Spider-Girl)
Ultimate and Ultimate Spider-Man along with Ultimate FF re-invented these characters for the modern age, so much of Raimi's Spider-Man takes form Ultimate in terms of world building. the MCU in terms of it's world building and designs is ripped straight from the Ultimates
We need to wait for Hickman Ultimate to finish first and then we could have a comparison.
This story does not deserve to be slandered as any kind of worst, what are you on?