Comparing Johan Liebert, Light Yagami, and Yuuichi Katagiri as manipulators and strategic thinkers involves evaluating their unique characteristics, methods, and the contexts in which they operate. Each character excels in different ways, making it a nuanced comparison. ### Johan Liebert: 1. **Psychological Mastery**: Johan's manipulation is rooted in a deep understanding of human nature, which he uses to devastating effect. His ability to subtly influence and control people is unparalleled. 2. **Long-Term Planning**: Johan's schemes are complex and unfold over long periods, showcasing his patience and foresight. 3. **Impact**: Johan’s actions lead to widespread chaos and destruction, affecting numerous lives and creating a profound sense of dread and instability. ### Light Yagami (from "Death Note"): 1. **Intellectual Genius**: Light is highly intelligent and uses the Death Note to strategically eliminate his enemies while evading capture. 2. **Moral Superiority Complex**: Light believes in his own moral righteousness, which drives his actions and justifies his manipulative and often ruthless behavior. 3. **Strategic Planning**: Light's plans are meticulously detailed, often involving layers of deception and contingency plans to outsmart his opponents, particularly L and Near. ### Yuuichi Katagiri: 1. **Strategic Adaptability**: Yuuichi thrives in high-pressure scenarios where quick thinking and adaptability are crucial. His ability to read and manipulate people in real-time is exceptional. 2. **Relatable Motivations**: Yuuichi’s actions are often driven by a desire to protect his friends and survive the "Tomodachi Game," adding a layer of relatability and moral ambiguity. 3. **Psychological Warfare**: He excels in direct psychological battles within the game's context, often outsmarting opponents through clever strategies and mind games. ### Comparison: - **Scope and Impact**: Johan and Light operate on a grander scale, with Johan causing widespread psychological and physical harm, and Light aiming to reshape the world according to his vision of justice. Yuuichi's impact, while significant, is more confined to the context of the game and his immediate circle. - **Methodology**: Johan’s manipulations are deeply psychological and often involve long-term planning. Light’s methods are strategic, involving detailed planning and the use of supernatural means. Yuuichi’s tactics are more immediate and adaptable, focusing on real-time psychological and strategic battles. - **Motivations**: Johan’s motivations are enigmatic and rooted in his traumatic past. Light’s motivations are driven by his belief in his own moral superiority and desire for a utopian world. Yuuichi’s motivations are more relatable, driven by survival and the protection of his friends. ### Who is the Best? - **Johan Liebert**: If considering the sheer psychological depth and the terrifying extent of his manipulations, Johan might be seen as the most chilling and effective manipulator. - **Light Yagami**: For strategic brilliance and the ability to carry out complex plans with precision while maintaining a façade of normalcy, Light could be considered the best. - **Yuuichi Katagiri**: For adaptability and real-time strategic thinking in high-pressure scenarios, Yuuichi excels. Ultimately, the "best" manipulator depends on the criteria you value most: psychological depth and long-term chaos (Johan), strategic brilliance and a sense of moral superiority (Light), or adaptability and real-time strategic thinking (Yuuichi). Each character is a master in their domain, making them exceptional in different ways.
Light a Johan a basically equals but the thing is they Johan’s way of manipulation would be more effective on light than if vice-versa Though it would be a complete opposite if it was L
@@Naokanzaki16 Explain the steps of how they did it, how efficient and logical it was, Yuuichi has good feats in Prison Game and Friendless game, manipulating the players and having the whole game under his control. Even I could manipulate countries with the Death Note
@@heyus666 lmfao what? that doesnt have to do anything with acting skills, lights acting skills were so good that nobody suspected him and even L called him too perfect, johan literally disguised himself perfectly, yuuichi is genuine fodder that doesnt take anything
@lastzyy Lmao what? 🤣No, breaking character does have something to do with acting skills; it's considered an antifeat. It refers to saying or doing something that is inconsistent with the character one is portraying-in this case, Light's image as a detective whose job is to combat Kira. And no, Yuuichi's acting skills surpass Light's by far. His feats in the prison game and in All Bets are more than enough
Huge W edit here’s my rankings: Johan Light Yuuichi (Yuuichi isn’t stupid or bad at all, in fact he is one of my favorites!) yes I agree with this video
@@KingFloch88 Wanna debate? Just like how you think Light is “underrated.” (btw Light is massively overrated) I think Yuuichi is very underrated. Don't say “but but Yuuichi is a fodder” or some useless shit. If you wanna debate, I would be more than happy to.
100% Agreed man . Johan is overrated in manicuplation. Even ayonkoji , light , Yucchi karagiri are far better than him. Atleast we see him how he did this and how did he pull behind the scene but in Johan case it's told to us (90% of the times), the left 10% is good like Richard one but 90% times it's just off screen. Example:- Johan manicuplation 50 PPL to K!II themselves but it's never shown to us how did he do that. It's always like that oh here's Johan he just manipulated the shit out of a whole city" like wtf when where how?
Johan is overrated in manicuplation. Even ayonkoji , light , Yucchi karagiri are far better than him. Atleast we see him how he did this and how did he pull behind the scene but in Johan case it's told to us (90% of the times), the left 10% is good like Richard one but 90% times it's just off screen. Example:- Johan manicuplation 50 PPL to K!II themselves but it's never shown to us how did he do that. It's always like that oh here's Johan he just manipulated the shit out of a whole city" like wtf when where how?
Johan made serial killers his bitches 😅 with no powers or plot armor, doing whatever he pleases while every kind of authority after him ,do you think two school boys with god complex can do anything to him 😅
Johan is overrated in manicuplation. Even ayonkoji , light , Yucchi karagiri are far better than him. Atleast we see him how he did this and how did he pull behind the scene but in Johan case it's told to us (90% of the times), the left 10% is good like Richard one but 90% times it's just off screen. Example:- Johan manicuplation 50 PPL to K!II themselves but it's never shown to us how did he do that. It's always like that oh here's Johan he just manipulated the shit out of a whole city" like wtf when where how?
@@sundaysunday2368 If we are following your reasoning and logic then black zetsu slams all as it's just told us in Narrative that he manipulated 1000 Years of generation
I was gonna have a go but then realised this is all in manipulation so dubs 😭🥂 Light slams all of em in outsmarting and overall tho. Light takes indirect manipulation, acting skills, and deception though.
Akiyama shinichi from liar game he outsmarts yuuichi johan light and especially ayanakoji. He wins in strategy planning manipulation and deception he's a genius
Akiyama even debate with Ayanokoji in Manipulation and Deception who is the weakest person of these 4 Johan > Yuuichi >= Light > Ayanokoji >= Akiyama in Deception and Akiyama >= Ayanokoji in Manipulation
Acting skills goes to Light >= over Yuuichi Indirect manipulation, mass manipulation (lights mass manip was heavily reliant on death note while Johan mass manipulated kinderheim 511 and an entire town), logical manipulation (Johans manipulation feat on Richard used much more logical points and went way more realistically than lights feat on Naomi or Yuuichis feat on the group) and mid diffs both together in manip
In my opinion: In manipulation Johan>=Yuuichi>>>Light, In outsmarting Light=>Johan=>Yuuichi Btw all slam Koji Light - Very High Diff, Johan - Very High-Extreme Diff, Yuuichi - Extreme Diff. But W edit 🔥🔥🔥
Johan slams badly Yuuichi in Manipulation and Yuuichi vs Light in Manipulation is very close imo Ayanokoji solos Yuuichi Low Diffs(+) lmao and solos Light High Diffs(+) and Johan wins Extreme Diffs or could go either way
I think light wins because he managed too stop 80% of crimes etc and he can adapt his way to manipulate depending on person if you disagree tell me why
Light takes acting skills bro was acting the whole damn show!!! And there were times he gave god like acting as stated by L during the potato chip strategy L for a second thought Kira wasn’t real until he started dwelling on his intuition.
Johan is overrated in manicuplation. Even ayonkoji , light , Yucchi karagiri are far better than him. Atleast we see him how he did this and how did he pull behind the scene but in Johan case it's told to us (90% of the times), the left 10% is good like Richard one but 90% times it's just off screen. Example:- Johan manicuplation 50 PPL to K!II themselves but it's never shown to us how did he do that. It's always like that oh here's Johan he just manipulated the shit out of a whole city" like wtf when where how?
Some of you obviously haven’t seen Death Note 😅 Light wins most of these. He got to the position of leading the people who were looking for him. And when they finally did find out, it was only because someone else’s mistake.
That's a narrative argument and not a very good one, you need to prove why he's better in xyz categories rather than saying "he outsmarted FBI agents while Yuuichi only dealt with random fodders he solos etc etc" Example: if I wanted to argue Light > L in acting skills, rather than saying "L doesn't care for stuff like that" I'd say "Light brought himself to tears on the spot, arising sadness, fear and anger for someone he hated and masked his euphoria that he experienced moments before. He takes improvisation, range of emotion, acting length/consistency (idk what to call this but he acted for years straight). L would take insight >= (directing Misa) and range of character (phone call feat)"
Do you not understand Death Note? Johan is not immune to Light simply because it is stated that if a person does not have a birth name, it can be seen through Shinigami Eyes, it is mentioned in one of the rules in the Death Note, also Johan>Light in manipulation, but Light wins in an overall situation.
Yuuichi did all that yapping just to get clap by both 😭💀🙏
Editor of this vid (Say thanks to him for making it!!)
I think you are the one yapping here.
Get rid of Johan and Yuuichi takes most of these points
Thanks man
This editor is straight capping to finest degree in facts they definitely type to pick opinion over facts.
Bro casually dropped the hardest anime manipulators edit and thought we wouldn't notice 🔥
Yuuichi can definitely beat light in manipulation.
It's just that Johan took all of the points that would otherwise go to Yuuichi
That's basically it
Light slams
Light negs ... But I like both of them
İn overall light slams
@@omerrr07Disagree but doesn’t matter here
Meanwhile James from pokemon : *Pulls out a gun **
Light: I am Justice!
Then I’ll be evil!
Light : I'm dumb and a akiyama victim🥶
Light:baku is my daddy 🥶🥶🥶
@@Monkeydluffy-jk6teLuffy Glazer
@@Monkeydluffy-jk6tego back to youtube kids
Comparing Johan Liebert, Light Yagami, and Yuuichi Katagiri as manipulators and strategic thinkers involves evaluating their unique characteristics, methods, and the contexts in which they operate. Each character excels in different ways, making it a nuanced comparison.
### Johan Liebert:
1. **Psychological Mastery**: Johan's manipulation is rooted in a deep understanding of human nature, which he uses to devastating effect. His ability to subtly influence and control people is unparalleled.
2. **Long-Term Planning**: Johan's schemes are complex and unfold over long periods, showcasing his patience and foresight.
3. **Impact**: Johan’s actions lead to widespread chaos and destruction, affecting numerous lives and creating a profound sense of dread and instability.
### Light Yagami (from "Death Note"):
1. **Intellectual Genius**: Light is highly intelligent and uses the Death Note to strategically eliminate his enemies while evading capture.
2. **Moral Superiority Complex**: Light believes in his own moral righteousness, which drives his actions and justifies his manipulative and often ruthless behavior.
3. **Strategic Planning**: Light's plans are meticulously detailed, often involving layers of deception and contingency plans to outsmart his opponents, particularly L and Near.
### Yuuichi Katagiri:
1. **Strategic Adaptability**: Yuuichi thrives in high-pressure scenarios where quick thinking and adaptability are crucial. His ability to read and manipulate people in real-time is exceptional.
2. **Relatable Motivations**: Yuuichi’s actions are often driven by a desire to protect his friends and survive the "Tomodachi Game," adding a layer of relatability and moral ambiguity.
3. **Psychological Warfare**: He excels in direct psychological battles within the game's context, often outsmarting opponents through clever strategies and mind games.
### Comparison:
- **Scope and Impact**: Johan and Light operate on a grander scale, with Johan causing widespread psychological and physical harm, and Light aiming to reshape the world according to his vision of justice. Yuuichi's impact, while significant, is more confined to the context of the game and his immediate circle.
- **Methodology**: Johan’s manipulations are deeply psychological and often involve long-term planning. Light’s methods are strategic, involving detailed planning and the use of supernatural means. Yuuichi’s tactics are more immediate and adaptable, focusing on real-time psychological and strategic battles.
- **Motivations**: Johan’s motivations are enigmatic and rooted in his traumatic past. Light’s motivations are driven by his belief in his own moral superiority and desire for a utopian world. Yuuichi’s motivations are more relatable, driven by survival and the protection of his friends.
### Who is the Best?
- **Johan Liebert**: If considering the sheer psychological depth and the terrifying extent of his manipulations, Johan might be seen as the most chilling and effective manipulator.
- **Light Yagami**: For strategic brilliance and the ability to carry out complex plans with precision while maintaining a façade of normalcy, Light could be considered the best.
- **Yuuichi Katagiri**: For adaptability and real-time strategic thinking in high-pressure scenarios, Yuuichi excels.
Ultimately, the "best" manipulator depends on the criteria you value most: psychological depth and long-term chaos (Johan), strategic brilliance and a sense of moral superiority (Light), or adaptability and real-time strategic thinking (Yuuichi). Each character is a master in their domain, making them exceptional in different ways.
There good in there ways.🙂
Chatgpt😂
@@Merpati_. Yeahh i want chatgpt's opinion
W take i can only imagine what would happen if all three were trapped in a room together
With ayanokoji too 💀
@@LuffyGear5EditzAnd with Akiyama too 💀
@@RounakRaj and they all creat a white room like training to create a monster 💀
@@LuffyGear5Editz And suddenly Goku came and solos the verse 💀
😂😂😂@@LuffyGear5Editz
Haven't read Tomodachi game, but for me it's almost impossible to imagine someone defeating Johan in indirect manipulation
Friend from 20th century boys
@@sapnajain8691 maybe, didn't finish it it yet
Impossible lmao😂😂😂
Baku no diffs that fodder
Amon no concept of diffs in all manipulation categories
@@Humanhorror66 I just started usogui, so idk, but Baku is already insane
@@nosleep3170
Go for it you will forget Johan
Johan slaps both 🗿
Light a Johan a basically equals but the thing is they Johan’s way of manipulation would be more effective on light than if vice-versa
Though it would be a complete opposite if it was L
Imagine being trapped in a room with all three💀 I would just end myself I already know what’s coming
So good edit, this is so fire
Amazing edit bro + take 🔥
Beautiful just beautiful
Peak edit 😮, but Yuuichi takes deception, misdirection, mass manipulation, fabrication and info control (debatable) from both 😎🍷
Light and Johan manipulated the country, so how does Yuichi achieve mass manipulation? 😂😂
@@Naokanzaki16 Explain the steps of how they did it, how efficient and logical it was, Yuuichi has good feats in Prison Game and Friendless game, manipulating the players and having the whole game under his control. Even I could manipulate countries with the Death Note
@@PreguicaDeCriarNomeNo, Johan manipulated Germany at the age of 10, and Light manipulated the Earth.
@@Naokanzaki16 That doesn't mean anything lmao, that's just influence
Mass manipulation requires influence, and if you follow your logic, Yuichi > Lelouch, friend. @@PreguicaDeCriarNome
acting skills to yuuichi tbh
💀
@@lastzyy yes, Light broke character in when faced near, cope
@@heyus666 lmfao what? that doesnt have to do anything with acting skills, lights acting skills were so good that nobody suspected him and even L called him too perfect, johan literally disguised himself perfectly, yuuichi is genuine fodder that doesnt take anything
@lastzyy Lmao what? 🤣No, breaking character does have something to do with acting skills; it's considered an antifeat. It refers to saying or doing something that is inconsistent with the character one is portraying-in this case, Light's image as a detective whose job is to combat Kira. And no, Yuuichi's acting skills surpass Light's by far. His feats in the prison game and in All Bets are more than enough
@@heyus666 Lights first 10 eps in the anime is enough to no diff Yuuichi in acting buddy
Huge W edit
here’s my rankings:
Johan
Light
Yuuichi
(Yuuichi isn’t stupid or bad at all, in fact he is one of my favorites!)
yes I agree with this video
Damn ok I see you w editing
W edit!!
Acting skills-Light
Perfect edit🔥
Nah , it goes to yuichi
W
@@demoncyborg9482 Light takes pretty easily
@@mvrxhx not really,light is pretty good in acting skills , but yuichi's acting during gambling arc >>>
The only time a God lost to the devil 💀 🔥 🔥😈🔥
It's a hard battle I have to watch the third Anime to decide.
johan is just yuuchi on steroids
Huge W🥶🥶
Hell nah
Johan > Yuuichi > Light in Manipulation.
its deception too
@@lxrnqyeah
No Yuuichi is fodder
@@KingFloch88 Wanna debate? Just like how you think Light is “underrated.” (btw Light is massively overrated) I think Yuuichi is very underrated.
Don't say “but but Yuuichi is a fodder” or some useless shit. If you wanna debate, I would be more than happy to.
@@withratthunder Yuichi is fodder
Awesome 🔥🔥🔥🔥
yo Avent, you talent for editing is so impressive. You would make so much money if you post on TikTok.
Can you make a edit on batman
W edit and takes
The answer is johan>yuichi>light
But the kira is my favourite always
False johan>=light>>>>yuuichi
Yuuichi: What I'm doing here?
Akiyama victims going hard 🥵
I don't know how so many people rate johan that high, when his besr feats aren't even directly shown or explained
uhh some of them are directly shown
They are legit shown buddy.
100% Agreed man . Johan is overrated in manicuplation. Even ayonkoji , light , Yucchi karagiri are far better than him. Atleast we see him how he did this and how did he pull behind the scene but in Johan case it's told to us (90% of the times), the left 10% is good like Richard one but 90% times it's just off screen. Example:- Johan manicuplation 50 PPL to K!II themselves but it's never shown to us how did he do that. It's always like that oh here's Johan he just manipulated the shit out of a whole city" like wtf when where how?
@@llawlir5576yeah exactly
@@llawlir5576cuz it's normal scaling and all of their off screen and narrative feats are counted,so your point is invalid lil bro
Light: so what are yalls names?
Such an underrated edit please tell me how you got these vfx
Johan > Light >= Yuuichi
Right
@@Johan_Liebert__- No, it's Light
Johan is overrated in manicuplation. Even ayonkoji , light , Yucchi karagiri are far better than him. Atleast we see him how he did this and how did he pull behind the scene but in Johan case it's told to us (90% of the times), the left 10% is good like Richard one but 90% times it's just off screen. Example:- Johan manicuplation 50 PPL to K!II themselves but it's never shown to us how did he do that. It's always like that oh here's Johan he just manipulated the shit out of a whole city" like wtf when where how?
Johan > Yuuichi > Light in Manipulation but Light beats both in Deception.
W edit + take 😎🤘
Johan made serial killers his bitches 😅 with no powers or plot armor, doing whatever he pleases while every kind of authority after him ,do you think two school boys with god complex can do anything to him 😅
I mean it's undebatable. Johan slams basically most manipulators and smart characters.
He was born for that shi.
Johan is overrated in manicuplation. Even ayonkoji , light , Yucchi karagiri are far better than him. Atleast we see him how he did this and how did he pull behind the scene but in Johan case it's told to us (90% of the times), the left 10% is good like Richard one but 90% times it's just off screen. Example:- Johan manicuplation 50 PPL to K!II themselves but it's never shown to us how did he do that. It's always like that oh here's Johan he just manipulated the shit out of a whole city" like wtf when where how?
@@llawlir5576In manipulation johan slams every single one of them
@@sundaysunday2368 If we are following your reasoning and logic then black zetsu slams all as it's just told us in Narrative that he manipulated 1000 Years of generation
Honestly I think for now it should just be light vs Johan as there stories are complete and atm it feels like Light vs Johan featuring Yuuichi 😂
Avent hesitating to show us his takes abt baku despite recommending usogui to multiple people
Fire
thank u
I was gonna have a go but then realised this is all in manipulation so dubs 😭🥂
Light slams all of em in outsmarting and overall tho.
Light takes indirect manipulation, acting skills, and deception though.
W
All goes to Johan
W edit and outcomes but I think emotional manipulation to yuuichi
Song?
Disterbed-Bad man
Akiyama shinichi from liar game he outsmarts yuuichi johan light and especially ayanakoji. He wins in strategy planning manipulation and deception he's a genius
Akiyama even debate with Ayanokoji in Manipulation and Deception who is the weakest person of these 4
Johan > Yuuichi >= Light > Ayanokoji >= Akiyama in Deception and Akiyama >= Ayanokoji in Manipulation
Acting skills goes to Light >= over Yuuichi
Indirect manipulation, mass manipulation (lights mass manip was heavily reliant on death note while Johan mass manipulated kinderheim 511 and an entire town), logical manipulation (Johans manipulation feat on Richard used much more logical points and went way more realistically than lights feat on Naomi or Yuuichis feat on the group) and mid diffs both together in manip
In my opinion:
In manipulation
Johan>=Yuuichi>>>Light,
In outsmarting
Light=>Johan=>Yuuichi
Btw all slam Koji
Light - Very High Diff,
Johan - Very High-Extreme Diff,
Yuuichi - Extreme Diff.
But W edit 🔥🔥🔥
My boi Koji did not need to catch that stray
Johan slams badly Yuuichi in Manipulation and Yuuichi vs Light in Manipulation is very close imo
Ayanokoji solos Yuuichi Low Diffs(+) lmao and solos Light High Diffs(+) and Johan wins Extreme Diffs or could go either way
🫵🤡🤡🤡@@Vegitooeditz
@@TGHA-oi8xx What do you mean? Was my take bad??
Light and Johan speaking eng:
Yuuichi:
Do akiyama shinichi
I think light wins because he managed too stop 80% of crimes etc and he can adapt his way to manipulate depending on person if you disagree tell me why
Its safe to say that the prince of darkness, Johan wins...
Yohan will never directly say that for sure
I think Light wouldn't be as good as a detective than as a killer, but he would still be great and one of the best
Light takes acting skills bro was acting the whole damn show!!! And there were times he gave god like acting as stated by L during the potato chip strategy L for a second thought Kira wasn’t real until he started dwelling on his intuition.
Bruh bruh
text motion?? how to made
W
I enjoy watching Light fool and misdirect people.
Don't know the third guy but monster and kira should team up to build a new world
Yuuichi takes Deception, acting skills (debatable)
Johan>Light>Yuuichi and all of that are not even close
Bro did yuuichi dirty 😭
All of them Ayanokoji victims even if they all teamed all.
W but johan take info control and mass
Johan is overrated in manicuplation. Even ayonkoji , light , Yucchi karagiri are far better than him. Atleast we see him how he did this and how did he pull behind the scene but in Johan case it's told to us (90% of the times), the left 10% is good like Richard one but 90% times it's just off screen. Example:- Johan manicuplation 50 PPL to K!II themselves but it's never shown to us how did he do that. It's always like that oh here's Johan he just manipulated the shit out of a whole city" like wtf when where how?
John cena vs anime joker vs a highschool kid with access to admin console and /kill
Ik light is godly in manipulation and stuff but thats normal considering he is on top of the country but yuuichi is literally just a poor guy
All for aizen to solo
Johan>yuuichi>light yuuichis points got taken by johan and yuuichi and johan both take deception over light.
Johan Low Diffs Yuichi And High Diffs Light With A Death Note.,
Indirect to yuuichi is wild kindherm negs anything yuuichi has done
Johan>>>>>Light>>>>>Yuuichi
Yuuichi got *COOKED*
Some of you obviously haven’t seen Death Note 😅
Light wins most of these.
He got to the position of leading the people who were looking for him. And when they finally did find out, it was only because someone else’s mistake.
That's a narrative argument and not a very good one, you need to prove why he's better in xyz categories rather than saying "he outsmarted FBI agents while Yuuichi only dealt with random fodders he solos etc etc"
Example: if I wanted to argue Light > L in acting skills, rather than saying "L doesn't care for stuff like that" I'd say "Light brought himself to tears on the spot, arising sadness, fear and anger for someone he hated and masked his euphoria that he experienced moments before. He takes improvisation, range of emotion, acting length/consistency (idk what to call this but he acted for years straight). L would take insight >= (directing Misa) and range of character (phone call feat)"
Yuiichi slams Light in manipulation its even funny
No way Light takes this against Yuuichi man
Yes he does lil bro. Now what?
He doesn't. Yuuichi slams Light in manipulation, but Johan got all the points that would normally go to Yuuichi against Light lol
Johan and yuuichi wins in manipulation light wins in outsmarting
All this guy does is downplay yuuichi ong he hasnt read tg
Johan > Yuuichi > Light in manip. If johan wasn't here yuuichi would have taken the points that went to him
We can run it, light low diffs
@@lastzyy We can run it Yuuichi mid diffs
@@withratthunder add up the cord then son
If johan wasn’t here yuuichi would beat light in manipulation imo
Mass manipulation goes to Johan.
Yuuichi is the super victim.
so ofcousre johan takes manipulation but if u called in real light wins cuz of strategy and mass manipulation and plans
Yuuichi claps both
Johan > Yuuichi mid diff > Light mid diff (in manipulation)
Johan = Light > Yuuichi extreme diff (in fsiq)
Johan > Light low diff > Yuuichi neg diff (rls)
Death note carries in hax lmao Johan still clears rls cuz no one knows his name
Yuuichi is nothing compared to these two.
Ayonokoji enters the chat
The demon of new gen☠️
Gets clapped by johan
Let's see if he can beat them in manipulation
Yuuichi>Koji Mid-high diff
Light>Koji high diff
Johan>Koji Very low diff
Yeh there all good manipulators and all but are they bullet proof and death note proof and wait can they survive breaking an unspecified order😂
Indirect manipulation to johan
Yuuichi is a whole victim here😐
actually you all are fool l lawliet ~ i'm that monster !
misdirection goes to yuuichi
Johan and Yuuichi are top 3 manipulation. Light ain’t even top 5 and also Yuuichi and Johan outsmarts Light
Psychology manipulation to light . Why johan ?
Easily goes to Johan
@@Lilbuptownmeatrider
☠️... Yuichi > Both. Overrated fodder
Sorry but deception goes to Johan
johan is immune to light cause what’s bros name????💀
Do you not understand Death Note? Johan is not immune to Light simply because it is stated that if a person does not have a birth name, it can be seen through Shinigami Eyes, it is mentioned in one of the rules in the Death Note, also Johan>Light in manipulation, but Light wins in an overall situation.
Ayanokoji's victim
•zik is a really good and smart person
•yohan looked at zik
•zik: tell me who do you want to kill my lord
how tfk you call that Intelligence 😮💨
Bot?
Johan>yuiichi >light
Light solo