Tldr; overconfidence and Mui getting a massive buff led to his early demise. I, as many others, don't like the conclusion to this fight, but it gives you insight to how important the mark is to beating these uppermoons.
Gyokko isn't weak Muichiro is just that strong. Even in manga they said the feat muichiro accomplished was exptional which wasn't in the anime Shinobu said uppermoons normally match the strenght of 3 three pillars
the problem is, Hantengu does look strong with power gimmick deserves to be an upper rank. but Gyokko attack simply looks weak. just throwing fish everywhere..
Bruh muichuro needed his mark and wouldve died if it werent for the bubbles that kid blew. Also muichiro is a mid hashira with a mark so yeah. Muichiro also has transparent world.
@@flaplx Ehh maybe on Obanai but not Rengoku, Gyokko does have a final form which is basically a one shot, Muichiro won coz of plot, Its insane to me that people think Gyutaro is stronger than gyokko
I love my boy Uzui, but Gyokko is Upper 5 because the rank is based purely on power and power alone. If Gyokko is Rank 5 that means that Gyutaro and Daki *100% knew they could not beat Gyokko, even together* otherwise they would have challenged him, beat him, and took his place. That's simply how the Kizuki system was designed by Muzan and they have no camaraderie or friendship with Gyokko and had actually verbally stated they wanted to rank up and take his place. If Uzui only managed to beat Gyutaro with Tanjiro, a literal Sun-Breather actually doing the beheading while he ran interference, then Uzui gets 8000% clapped by Gyokko no diff.
It's literally narrated in the manga that the if it wasn't for the Gyutaro's deadly poison, Uzui after completing his Musical Score Technique would have beheaded Gyutaro without Tanjiro's help and even without an arm. Secondly, Uzui did all that without a mark while being poisoned, unlike Muichiro who had the luxury of the demon slayer mark. If Muichiro who was on the brink of death before he got his mark was able to beat Gyokko, it wouldn't be any different with Uzui especially considering he's the fastest Hashira, 2nd most strongest and experienced only behind Himeijima.
to be fair, if mui fought gyutaro, he will die from the poison (he will die before get his memory back and get the mark). and tengen have a "unique skill" called "musical score". imagine if he get his mark, he would also solo gyokko.
Muichiro would 8000% get clapped by Gyokko as well, without the mark. Your point? If Tengen was marked, he would've blitzed through Gyutaro. He'd have no problem beating Gyokko. Keep in mind Tengen didn't awakn his mark because Tanjiro awakened his at the end of the fight, a key requirement.
In my opinion, Gyutaro is a lot stronger than Gyokko. It's just that Gyutaro never actually shows up unless Daki is in danger, so overall Gyutaro and Daki average out to be weaker than Gyokko.
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I think he was portrayed as weak just to get through with the manga and series. It's a short series so they're speeding through it
Yep, the series felt short when I read it. I do think the anime has better placing even if there and same story
I think people forgot that if it wasn't for lil bro gukko would have kill mucihro
Gyokko is a strong upper moon. People just ignore the fact that Base Muichiro got defeated by Gyokko that quick.
Tldr; overconfidence and Mui getting a massive buff led to his early demise. I, as many others, don't like the conclusion to this fight, but it gives you insight to how important the mark is to beating these uppermoons.
Yep this sums up the important points very well 👍
i feel like he wouldve lost to mist hashira w out his mark
Gyokko claps Gyutaro in one punch probably
A fight between two chickens would be a great fight but a fight between chicken and fox wouldn't be a great fight.
Yo this is such a good analogy for what happened in this arc 🔥
The thing is that gyokko needed an arc of his own
Gyokko isn't weak
Muichiro is just that strong. Even in manga they said the feat muichiro accomplished was exptional which wasn't in the anime
Shinobu said uppermoons normally match the strenght of 3 three pillars
Muichiro alr lost the first round when he got trapped by Gyokko water prison. People seems to ignore that and focus more on mark Muichiro.
hes one of my fav ngl the way he looks is disgusting but good and his blood demon art is also good and the sounds he makes are funny
I believe that in a one-on-one fight, Gyuutaro would win against Gyokko, but in terms of overall attack abilities, Gyokko has a much wider range.
Gyokko>Gyutanoob
the problem is, Hantengu does look strong with power gimmick deserves to be an upper rank. but Gyokko attack simply looks weak. just throwing fish everywhere..
Gyoko was not weak muichiro was too strong
Bruh muichuro needed his mark and wouldve died if it werent for the bubbles that kid blew. Also muichiro is a mid hashira with a mark so yeah. Muichiro also has transparent world.
yeah plus he’s a descendant of Kokoshibo, If it was any other hashira besides the top 3, Gyokko would’ve won
@@Sinestro78 i disagree i think obanai would win also rengoku especially if he activated the mark
@@flaplx Ehh maybe on Obanai but not Rengoku, Gyokko does have a final form which is basically a one shot, Muichiro won coz of plot, Its insane to me that people think Gyutaro is stronger than gyokko
@@Sinestro78 possibly shinobu if she brings her most potent poison
@@flaplx Ehh maybe, idk if her weak blade would be able to pierce Gyokko’s skin though (Its as hard as diamonds) my bad for the Gyokko glaze😞
I love my boy Uzui, but Gyokko is Upper 5 because the rank is based purely on power and power alone.
If Gyokko is Rank 5 that means that Gyutaro and Daki *100% knew they could not beat Gyokko, even together* otherwise they would have challenged him, beat him, and took his place.
That's simply how the Kizuki system was designed by Muzan and they have no camaraderie or friendship with Gyokko and had actually verbally stated they wanted to rank up and take his place. If Uzui only managed to beat Gyutaro with Tanjiro, a literal Sun-Breather actually doing the beheading while he ran interference, then Uzui gets 8000% clapped by Gyokko no diff.
Agree with you here 100%
It's literally narrated in the manga that the if it wasn't for the Gyutaro's deadly poison, Uzui after completing his Musical Score Technique would have beheaded Gyutaro without Tanjiro's help and even without an arm. Secondly, Uzui did all that without a mark while being poisoned, unlike Muichiro who had the luxury of the demon slayer mark. If Muichiro who was on the brink of death before he got his mark was able to beat Gyokko, it wouldn't be any different with Uzui especially considering he's the fastest Hashira, 2nd most strongest and experienced only behind Himeijima.
to be fair, if mui fought gyutaro, he will die from the poison (he will die before get his memory back and get the mark).
and tengen have a "unique skill" called "musical score". imagine if he get his mark, he would also solo gyokko.
Muichiro would 8000% get clapped by Gyokko as well, without the mark. Your point? If Tengen was marked, he would've blitzed through Gyutaro. He'd have no problem beating Gyokko. Keep in mind Tengen didn't awakn his mark because Tanjiro awakened his at the end of the fight, a key requirement.
there's nothing am gonna be told.
gyutaro is on par with zohakuten,i consider him more deadlier against human than um4 and um5 against human
Tell me you get your info from youtube shorts without telling me. Can you even articulate how Gyutaro would beat Hantengu let alone Gyokko?
Definitely not
In my opinion, Gyutaro is a lot stronger than Gyokko. It's just that Gyutaro never actually shows up unless Daki is in danger, so overall Gyutaro and Daki average out to be weaker than Gyokko.
If they’re stronger, why didn’t they challenge Gyokko for his position?
@@shawdits Gyutaro doesn't show up unless Dali is in danger. He doesn't care about being stronger than Gyokko.
@@artemis_furrsonExactly so gyokko still stronger than gyutaro
@@erssey6168 The ranking: Gyutaro > Gyokko > Daki
However: Upper 6 = Daki + Gyutaro
Gyokko > Upper 6.
Does that clarify it for you?
@@artemis_furrson what clarify???? They never stated gyutaro is stronger than gyokko never!!
Gyutaro is def stronger than Gyokko
Never stated anywhere idiot