mahito definitely clears, just idle transfiguration is too oppressive. landing it is a one shot, even for those who can regenerate because of the soul damage.
@@denisegbe6705 How though. Using Gojo's explanation it needs to know the speed and mass which means if it goes too fast for Gojo or the technique to pick up then it should just bypass it.
Yh but even in the fight against toji he couldn't detect him or properly see him, yet toji still couldn't bypass infinity without the inverted spear of heaven, plus before the sukuna fight when yuji tried patting gojo on the back he stated gojos infinity was still on, and gojo was surprised by that meaning gojo infinity is still in effect against everything when he's not even fully concentrated on his target or surroundings.
@denisegbe6705 I mean he literally could see Toji as he was bypassing infinity so that's not entirely accurate. And that was before the automatic targeting which was a thing when Yuji was talking to him. Keep in mind not only was this confirmed by Gojo's mouth but Gege's as well. It would be head canon to assume they are lying just based off those instances which can be easily debunked. But if you want to go that route we know Gojo doesn't have an infinite space but can control the space around him which was confirmed by Sukuna and Gege so can you provide evidence of let's say an MFTL+ attack being stopped? Because if we go above what's actually been proven it's arguably a no limits fallacy.
@@animezparadisez69 I don't really have evidence for that, cuz in all gojo fights he's either faster or relative to his opponent, but I just think the interpretations of the ability are more viable than this, because when ppl say if gojo or the technique can detect it there's a problem with that statement cuz if it's gojo that needs to detect with speed and mass that yuji pat on the back would debunk that statement because gojo was not even concentrated at yuji at all, but then you could say its about the technique itself that detected yuji which also doesn't make sense since infinity isnt a sentient entity its a technique and you'd also have to think about what would be to fast for the technique to detect if it's the perception of gojo or the technique itself also i dont remember sukuna debunking the infinite space argument. Although I think you're a pretty goated RUclipsr but I would hope if you could research more on how infinity works for future videos bcuz to be honest I can't remember to much of jjk events since it ended, im just asking bcuz I don't know why this interpretation is just one out of many and it's mostly the infinite space or Achilles paradox that are mentioned and talked about more often by gege akutami which to me gives those interpretation more viability, also pls consider the fact that the whole detection based of speed and mass was made by teenage gojo and the way the technique worked could have changed since he became an adult and along with his time in the prison realm.
@@denisegbe6705 Gojo's statement involving his own technique should be above your own personal interpretation though. Not just that but I just explained that Gojo back then needed to do it manually however after learning Reverse Cursed Technique he decided to take what he did manually and make it automatic for detecting things based off not only their cursed energy intensity but the speed, mass, and shape. So based off that my point of things being faster than what it can detect should be able to bypass it. So it detecting Yuji would for a fact be accurate because that's what's happening. To say that it doesn't make sense because you feel it being non sentient wouldn't allow such a thing is basically inserting that your own opinion should be above what's actually happening in the story that Gege wrote. That and it's literally just an automatic technique. There's been quite a few of those in all types of fiction. And I don't really see any reason why the technique itself should be massively faster than Gojo himself. For things like that like I said before there should be evidence to support something rather than just blind skepticism. Also Sukuna cutting Gojo in half and explaining how he did it was a very good debunk of it. Sukuna said that Mahoraga gave him a model of Gojo's infinity and he used that model to target the entire space and existence that was the infinity and cut it. It was even described as "the world themselves" which is in reference to the interview where Gege openly said the space wasn't infinite and Gojo controls a space around him called Gojo's Sekai or world. If it was actually infinite space then the slash would have cut much more. Also I appreciate being called goated but you have to keep in mind I have done alot of research on the infinity and that's why I know it. The Achilles And The Tortoise is also a theory that takes place in a finite space too btw. And there's nothing suggesting that infinity just changed when he became an adult so unless there's evidence of it doing so I'll keep it the way it is. I would be bias if I just changed the description of a technique to favor Gojo when there's not only evidence to the contrary but when there's nothing suggesting it's actually changed.
Muzan has no win condition, he can't hurt Mahito's soul in anyway. Meanwhile a simple touch by Mahito can cause Muzan to explode like Nanami did and Muzan has no soul based regeneration.
Here’s my scaling for both: 1-Muzan: -being the king of demons, should be superior to Kokushibo who’s leagues above Zenitsu who was stated to be as fast as a flash of light meaning Muzan realistically is FTL+ to MFTL All speed -in season 4 episode 8, A healthy Muzan couldn’t dodge a point blank explosion, the highest explosion velocity is a detonation velocity which is around 8200m/s, or 23x the speed of sound, Muzan couldn’t dodge this explosion, and he wasn’t off guard he quotes: “I figured he was planning something, but not something to this scale” indicating that Muzan knew Ubuyashiki would have a plan, the plan in question being? Who knows, maybe the hashiras jumping him? The list goes on, he should be on guard and to back it up, he’s quite literally in an enemy territory -taking the blitzing rule, 23/10= Mach 2.3 which is Muzan’s highballed speed -the Muzan earthquake is no where near City block as he only affected the ground under him and the shake pressure was felt only a few meters away from him, it would scale to Wall level -Doma creating budhas is also a fodder feat as this doesn’t upscale Doma’s AP via universal energy, creating something with the verse energy≠AP, and the calc is inconsistent, it was put a town when it didn’t even destroy the room they’re fighting in?? Gyutaro destroying district only gets him to small building as the attack couldn’t even destroy the ground and only affected the wooden houses -Mitsuri dodged lightning? Prove the lightning was real, Mitsuri legit cuts the lightning as proven by Zoha, lightning is immaterial and not a solid object meaning it can’t be cut “she just swung her sword” if that was the case she should’ve somewhat someway gotten electrocuted since her sword will work as a conductor, “Nichirin blade nullify blood demon art that’s why” the only example we saw is Tanjiro, you can’t prove the same case would be for Mitsuri as Tanjiro, just like Yoriichi is isolated from the verse, and to debunk this even more, she couldn’t react to a Mach 1 attack from Zoha and no she wasn’t 100% off guard, her being a hashira, she should know that “Nichirn blades nullify blood demon arts” which if it was true, she would’ve done the same thing to the sound wave, 1/10= Mach 0.1 being Mitsuri’s high balled speed😭🙏 -same thing for Zenitsu, kaigaku’s lightning have been disproven to be actual lightning as it doesn’t have lightning traits Conclusion: Base/healthy Muzan is around Mach 2 being generous with an AP of at least street/city block 2-Mahito -Mahito is interesting to say the least, he’s obviously superior to Dagon who blitzed Maki who in season 1 already performed a Mach 7 feat of catching bullet point blank range, it was a rubber bullet and the Mach 7 end is for real bullet speed, a rubber bullet should be faster via having lower muzzle velocity and lower mass, although via’s air’s reflective index, it should’ve slowed down, either way it’s above Mach 7, blitzing rule, 7x10= Mach 70 a low ball of Dagon’s speed meaning Mahito is easily above Mach 70 which is already faster than every demon slayer character, I disagree with Dagon being island to country via creating a tropical island as I said, creating something out of the verse energy≠AP, the safest way is to take Jogo’s AP which scales to Large city, Mahito being a fellow Natural disaster curse should scale to that -Mahito taking many hits from Yuji who counters the soul and not taking any damage from him, easily puts him at Large city AP, since season 1 Yuji was able to damage Hanami who’s superior to Jogo who himself is city -Domains have a barrier that can’t be broken as not even Gojo could, so the downgrade of people getting blitzed by domains is out of the way Conclusion: there’s really not a lot to talk about Mahito except for these, although something I haven’t mentioned, finger bearer are curses with Sukuna’s fingers, meaning they scale to 1F Sukuna, and they managed to blitz both Yuji and Megumi who should scale to S1 maki who I said is Mach 7, Jogo compared himself to 8-9F Sukuna while being generous, meaning Jogo is around 5-6F, Mahito being superior should scale him above 7F or 9F which gets him above Mach 100😭🙏 Maybe pin? (Couldn’t really care, just sharing my opinion, Muzan is a fodder😭🙏)
Predictions before i watch the video Muzan: large town level via his earthquake feat and mhs via upscaling from many characters who have mhs feats Mahito: large town-small city level via scaling to jogos meteor and supersonic+ - hypersonic from upscaling above makis bullet catching feat. Muzan overall has better stats but has no way of damaging mahito since he doesn't have soul damage + muzan gets domain diffed.
@odin.... And what are you basing that off of? Also it's questionable to assume he's around the same speed as Maki from the Goodwill Event. I do realize you said he upscales but we know based off feats he should be much faster than her by the time he fully transformed.
@@animezparadisez69 No evidence he scales to jackpot hakari. I didn't put mahito higher than supersonic+ - hypersonic because the difference in speed between him and goodwill maki isn't quantifiable. Same reasoning I don't have muzan higher than mhs.
@odin.... There is but people are just denying it at this point lol. But sure if we use that logic for just Mahito then the feat for Mitsuri can be argued an outlier. I don't get down with arguing characters lower than what they should be then arguing someone being exactly what they are. It seems bias. Not just that but it's similar to saying Todo is the exact same despite the fact he should be faster than Maki as well despite we know he has better lines of scaling.
I mean if you want to wank mahitos speed he can be scaled to mechumarus lazers that he fired at mahito, and mahito was able to react and dodge them although i think its inconsistent since at this point mahito should only be several times faster than sound. Although I believe mahito no diffs muzan, there's nothing muzan can do to mahito and mahito can one tap muzan.
While i dont exactly believe Muzan can beat Mahito i do think there were certain factors to consider, Muzan's ability is Biokinesis, being able to control his body however he desires and to change it to how he desires shown how he can shift between different forms, example the child form, what i think is that muzan will get his soul manipulated but could use Biokinesis to shift his body back into shape, but i still think mahito would win from the power scaling difference
@@Vectorohyeah-b9s Can you show evidence his soul is being affected by his biokinesis because that sounds more like head canon rather than definitive evidence he can resist Idle Transfiguration. Not to mention how would he know what exactly to do to counter it and how would he be able to even see Mahito if he doesn't have a power source that can be equalized into cursed energy?
@@animezparadisez69 i never said he could "resist" idle transfiguration i said he could undo it by shifting his body around or even splitting himself apart and rearranging himself back together similar to the yoriichi fight, and seeing how your bringing cursed energy into this i would say its fair to say bringing in domains in the video should be an issue, Muzan doesnt carry cursed energy which means while yes he would be more damaged by most of the attacks, he wouldnt be seen as a person within a domain
@@Vectorohyeah-b9s Yes can you show evidence to support your claims because once again it sounds like head canon rather than anything definitive. And we know for a fact Mahito's Domain would work because we've seen his cursed technique affect humans as well. There wouldn't be a lock on but it would certainly kill Muzan instantly. Not that it matters because it doesn't change anything I said previously.
@@animezparadisez69 While i would agree muzan would die to it, there is a difference, humans in the JJK verse still carry very small amounts of cursed energy, even with that small amount its enough for the domain to target and see them, while muzan would be seen an animate object and act similar to toji's heavenly restriction since domains register people by their cursed energy since Muzan isnt from the verse he simply doesnt count as a person
@@Vectorohyeah-b9s That doesn't mean it won't work at all doh. And we'd know that Idle Transfiguration would work on Toji as well seeing how the technique itself affects ones soul. And once again this doesn't matter because it doesn't refute the things I said before. If you want to debate with a judge on this we can.
Scaling isn't really usefull in this fight honestly, Mahito already outhax, he just needs to touch Muzan one time to make him his victim. W video tho 🔥
@@animezparadisez69 Why bother when the feats speak for themselves? Even Gyutaro can destroy a whole district and that guy is laughably inferior to Muzan in everything. And Akaza & Rengoku can create massive shockwaves during their fights. And there's Mitsuri, who can ragdoll and destroy large building sized dragons of Hantengu. All these feats are easily comparable, if not far above what guys like Shibuya Yuji and Todo have done. And that's not even bringing up the laughably superior speed of Muzan.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b If you refuse to debate then don't attempt to antagonize people. It's embarrassing. Also you ignored everything else that was mentioned. The best feat you mentioned at best is around city block level to maybe multi city block level so it doesn't make sense to wank. Also Mitsuri almost died to Hantegu so idk why lie there. And you didn't mention anything that actually scales Muzan above where I put him.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b are you forgetting that muzan cant really kill mahito because of his cursed technique. also mahito can idle transfigure muzan and it is already proven that normal regeneration cannot save you from idle transfiguration. lets also not forget mahito has DE, and he can use the 0.2 second variant. muzan knows zero anti domain techniques and he is gonna get reduced to a pile of meat. next point is yuji required a black flash, to literally multiply his damage to defeat mahito, and it took around 3 black flashes, all of them multiplied to defeat him. before this yuji couldnt do crap to him. mahito was taking all the punches absolutely unphased, muzan obviously cannot do this and even if he did, mahito would most likely be able to regenerate it easily. not to mention all the powers muzan has, mahito can replicate because of his ability to manipulate his own soul into any shape. as well as being able to change muzan's body.
I don’t quite agree with the difficulty, tho I believe Muzan wins due to better speed and AP over mahito, only way he wins is touching muzan which he can’t or using domain expansion, which muzan can dodge before he gets caught under it
Mahito isnt light speed at all no one can dodge to the EM waves (sukuna didnt dodge it) Mahito is island level via dagons domain hes just a lighting timer if you argue ISB mahito is relative or above base kashimo who is lighting speed in all speed categories (not because of his sure hit lighting) but ion really got mahito on the same pase as kashimo
@@grimesms We saw Sukuna dodge it so idk what manga you read. But if you don't believe Mahito is that's ok like I said more than once. But he should still be faster than fodder Shikigami attacks. Other than that everything else is fine.
This fight really depends on who you can scale being faster. Muzan's really only win-con is out staminaing Mahito which he could do. Ik that Sukuna ftl feat isn't too consistent at times as in the same fight, he got hit by Kashimo's lightning and sound attacks. Ik Muzan's scaling isnt too consistent sometimes either with the whole explosion thing. Although that feat could as well be an outlier as there are other characters in DS who have dodged actual lightning. (Yes the lightning is real😐 Its sky to ground lightning and has been shown properties as one like muscle contraction. If you use the Mitsuri cutting argument, you could just say she was cutting the plasma of the attack like how kakashi did in Naruto. Plus this is fiction, not everything will 100% abide by our rules) These are just my thoughts. Respectfully
@@ARandomJorgi 1. I agree with this Muzan definitely has better stamina. 2. When scaling I take characters at their best. Not just that but I was introducing more of a possibility so that my fans or whoever is watching could think for themselves. It's kind of like planet level JJK or Black Clover's Black Hole. It's more of me wanting them to have their own interpretation for things. The same could also be said for DS lightning scaling. 3. I agree that Mitsuri should scale to lightning speed. It's just alot of people don't like the idea of using that same logic for other verses. Example JJK ofc. Or Fairy Tail. People really hate Fairy Tail for some reason. I do thank you for being more respectful than the others btw. That's very appreciated.
@@animezparadisez69 no problem😁🙏 I really don't like arguing while trying to have a civil discussion on where we scale these fictional characters. I just think it's werid when you cuss someone out through text on our own opinions Yeah, I can agree with the jjk lightning scaling too. I just agree that both verses have very inconsistent scaling at times. The only one in the DS Verse that for sure has 100% concrete scaling is Yoriichi, imo.
Like how if you really wanna lowball, you can get both these verses at like mach 3 and 4😭🙏 or how if you highball, you can scale the top tiers of both verses to ftl+ Very werid and inconsistent scaling
@@ARandomJorgi I mostly cuss out people who outright act like I'm an idiot. Which there's alot. And true Yoriichi is definitely the strongest in the verse ngl.
@@Chiraqy Mahito has nothing to put him at MHS+ And Muzan is well beyond Mach-3. This is plain delusion and ignorance considering even characters like Mitsuri are consistently casual lighting timers.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b I already sent a comment scaling both character -Mitsuri’s feat is highly inconsistent via the fact she cuts lightning, lightning can’t be cut simple explanation to debunk the lightning attacks -muzan couldn’t dodge a point blank explosion of a velocity of 8200m/s which is around 23x the speed of sound, meaning Muzan’s high balled speed is Mach 2.3 via blitzing rule
bro i have watched demon slayer dragon ball jjk naruto death note chansaw man two animes i dont remember names and im watching dandadan and if all hashiras fuck on 1 st grades what are they are all gonna do about special grades and who is sayng grade 4 grade 3 grade 2 are not gonna help 1 st grades so demon slayer is so fucked then for demons yuki or or itadori and megumi is enough and megumi means mahoraga im not talking about sukuna gojo yuta or kashimo what are they all gonna do about kashimos speed slash like demons head 😂😂😂
@@African-AmericanGoose Get Muzan past multi city block and provide an energy system he uses that can be equalized or he loses lil bro. Also I already provided reasoning as to why he's faster than that. Wanna debate?
@bikuta9958 Telling me to read something when I offer a debate doesn't prove you right or me wrong. I said let's debate your take. If you're too scared then just say so lil bro but don't tell me to rewatch something because you're too slow to scale a verse outside Demon Slayer fr. Also liking your comment is embarrassing.
@bikuta9958 Wild how you're making baseless claims and bringing in religion simply because you're scared to debate me. Don't comment then lil bro. Only thing you can do is cry I'm a radical and hide in the comments with your tail between your legs. Professional victim mentality.
@bikuta9958 Lil chicken I did read and watch Demon Slayer. I'm sorry I don't scale Demon Slayer higher than what it is but you need to pull Muzan's dick out yo mouth. Not just that but you're bringing shit like "research into it". Lemme guess you google scans? Must be it because I read and watched the series so ik about all his feats I don't need to Google scans like you. And pride? That's you. You're being prideful but are scared to prove your claims. I was willing to debate and you got scared.
@@BeeBoiVR First of all Sukuna would one shot so idk why you're mentioning him. Second of all show me a single scan him regenerating damage to his soul.
Even if his destroyed he can regenerate even faster than mahito and no curse can one shot him in the last battle muzan was weakened atleast 70 percent and still almost won@@animezparadisez69
@@smilingsingh6426Sukuna Just Need to use "world slash" cutting space and reality, Since It was abel to deny Gojo's reverse curse technique regeneration
Mahito is not stronger than muzan less be honest. Look Mahato couldn't take down Yuji and Yuji cant even use a cursed technique. Plus remember the lighting base attacks we see numu use are not real lighting. Its made from cursed energy. Same as the blood demon arts the lighting made from them aren't real lighting. So Mitsuri and other characters in the verse aren't lighting speed their a bit lower. But Muzan is stronger and faster than every singal character in demon slayer IN HIS WEAKEN STATE so he would be arorund lighting speed IN HIS WEAKEN STATE. And we are taking muzan feats from the the one fight we have and that is not sold evdince because hes weaken so yeah.
@@lynettegarcia.3390 1. Not being able to use a cursed technique when you have insane attack potency doesn't mean anything and doesn't refute the things I said in this video. 2. There's nothing insinuating that it's slower than natural lightning at all unless you can provide evidence of such. Even then if you want to use that logic the Hashira could barely move a few feet to save a civilian in time. That would make them slower than sound. I can minimod stuff too. 3. You just claim with zero evidence Muzan is lightning speed after being dishonest about the other metas that were mentioned. Give evidence since you want to play that game. 4. If you disagree with the video we can debate with a judge.
@@animezparadisez69 his arguments were bad but i do agree that blood art lightning isnt actual lightning, and my reason is that slayer mark mitsuri couldn't react to or dodge sound based attacks against the same upper moon Who was using lightning. Based on that, there's no reason to believe kaigaku's lightning is really lightning speed either
@@thecomte7367 Now see that's what doesn't make sense. It's essentially saying a faster Mitsuri isn't as fast as a slower Tanjiro who outright dodged sound while injured. Plus in the fight we did see Mitsuri dodge some of them. The only attack I can think of is where she was caught off guard. Plus if we have to be skeptical of the lightning wouldn't it be weird not to question how fast the sound based attacks are either? There's too much going for the attacks actually being that fast to the contrary. Also if we do that then we should question power scaling as a whole. Is sound this fast in this verse? Is light this fast? Who's to say what this character says actually applies to our logic? I could even make arguments that Hashira aren't even as fast as a normal human. But see we take characters at their best do we not? If I have to low-ball one verse and scale the other properly wouldn't I just be lying to my audience?
@@thecomte7367 Mitsuri could react to the attack. She was merely mid-decapition attempt with Hantengu and couldn't stop herself. Hantengu's lightning is outright confirmed his fastest attack. And Mitsuri later on reacts to the same sound wave attacks casually.
Um look I'm not a power scaler I'm just starting to get into this stuff but look. The lighting based attacks seen in both anime are not real lighting. Look if it were real lighting every thing would be burnt. Lighting is 50,000 degrees Fahrenheit 5 times hotter than the sun. That would have melted mitsuris sword and ended every thing. The lighting used is not real lighting. So the characters in both series or not lighting fast. The lighting used in both series are the closets thing they will ever have to lighting. The lighting used is not as fast has real lighting we can see this when Mitsuri blocked the "lighting strikes" with her sword, Lighting has a top speed of lighting is 180mil meters per second. WAY FASTER THAN MUZAN AND MAHITO and mitsuri. If Mahito were faster than lighting the fight between him and Yuji would end in a flash (pun in tended) Yuji is 50 meters per second way slower than the speed of lighting. And i will say this i was wrong about Muzan being lighting fast that's Dum for me and anybody to say. And I didn't say that muzan would win I said that muzan is stronger than mahito not he would win.
The only fight we seen mahito in. He loses. Panda wasent worrying about max meteror he was worring about sukuna. And we dont know if youji is stronger than panda. Panda feets are limttted with the only one i can think of is he doiging a meteror. Wich yuji deff cant do he cant take on jogo but mahito?
@@lynettegarcia.3390 No Panda was definitely worried about that meteor. And the hell you mean Mahito has won fights pay attention. Also why are you talking about Yuji when the video is Muzan vs Mahito?
Factually incorrect? Mahito defeated Mechamaru, Nanami and Nobara and almost killed Todo. He also almost killed Yuji himself. Also Panda was shitting himself when that meteor dropped.
@@Chiraqy They don't have to prove much when the feats back it up. And not like you're one to speak, Mr. City-level Mach-100 Shibuya Mahito & Yuji who tries to scale via Hanami and Jogo, even though Jogo doesn't has at best city-block level feats via Maximum Meteor and his lava melting a few buildings. And that's via his DC/AP, which Hanami doesn't scale from as she's only more durable than Jogo and nothing else.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b Yes they do the burden of proof is on them to prove that. Don't tell people they don't have to prove things and can just make baseless claims.
😂😂😂 Muzan can't damaged Mahito in any way since he can't damaged his soul! Also Mahito doesn't Need to kill him, he can Just use "idle transfiguration" to change Muzan soul into everything he want Watch JJK next time
@@AsuraKish8n665he changes his soul so what? only works against fodder . That argument is dumb since muzans main blood demon art is biokenesis. So if you temper with his soul he will still fix his body which is important. Muzan slams that fodder Watch demon slayer next time🫠
@eljudah6582 Learn how to power scale you need to show evidence he can heal his soul. Y'all assume healing your body counters then provide zero counterargument to anyone asking for evidence he can heal his shit on a spiritual level. Read something other than Demon Slayer and learn how to properly scale.
@animezparadisez69 same goes for you bud, prove that someone with muzans level of physical manipulation can't heal from mahito soul attacks. Once you do that, you'd also learn to how to properly powerscale and not the clown show you're displaying here. Read something other than jjk and learn to properly powerscale🫠🫠
@eljudah6582 Simple there's nothing suggesting he can. Healing your body doesn't automatically mean you're also healing your soul. So if you want to get technical you need to prove your claim that he can heal his soul along with his body. The burden of proof is on you. Also you're the little punk who called me a retard and still hasn't dropped a tag or anything. You don't even understand how soul manipulation works that's sad lmfao. And I do I've made several other videos and most of them are of JJK losing. Shut because Shit Slayer is weak af doesn't mean I'm bias which is more than I can say for you.
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mahito definitely clears, just idle transfiguration is too oppressive. landing it is a one shot, even for those who can regenerate because of the soul damage.
8:41 , im pretty sure that even if you're faster than gojo you still can't touch him.
@@denisegbe6705 How though. Using Gojo's explanation it needs to know the speed and mass which means if it goes too fast for Gojo or the technique to pick up then it should just bypass it.
Yh but even in the fight against toji he couldn't detect him or properly see him, yet toji still couldn't bypass infinity without the inverted spear of heaven, plus before the sukuna fight when yuji tried patting gojo on the back he stated gojos infinity was still on, and gojo was surprised by that meaning gojo infinity is still in effect against everything when he's not even fully concentrated on his target or surroundings.
@denisegbe6705 I mean he literally could see Toji as he was bypassing infinity so that's not entirely accurate. And that was before the automatic targeting which was a thing when Yuji was talking to him. Keep in mind not only was this confirmed by Gojo's mouth but Gege's as well. It would be head canon to assume they are lying just based off those instances which can be easily debunked. But if you want to go that route we know Gojo doesn't have an infinite space but can control the space around him which was confirmed by Sukuna and Gege so can you provide evidence of let's say an MFTL+ attack being stopped? Because if we go above what's actually been proven it's arguably a no limits fallacy.
@@animezparadisez69 I don't really have evidence for that, cuz in all gojo fights he's either faster or relative to his opponent, but I just think the interpretations of the ability are more viable than this, because when ppl say if gojo or the technique can detect it there's a problem with that statement cuz if it's gojo that needs to detect with speed and mass that yuji pat on the back would debunk that statement because gojo was not even concentrated at yuji at all, but then you could say its about the technique itself that detected yuji which also doesn't make sense since infinity isnt a sentient entity its a technique and you'd also have to think about what would be to fast for the technique to detect if it's the perception of gojo or the technique itself also i dont remember sukuna debunking the infinite space argument.
Although I think you're a pretty goated RUclipsr but I would hope if you could research more on how infinity works for future videos bcuz to be honest I can't remember to much of jjk events since it ended, im just asking bcuz I don't know why this interpretation is just one out of many and it's mostly the infinite space or Achilles paradox that are mentioned and talked about more often by gege akutami which to me gives those interpretation more viability, also pls consider the fact that the whole detection based of speed and mass was made by teenage gojo and the way the technique worked could have changed since he became an adult and along with his time in the prison realm.
@@denisegbe6705 Gojo's statement involving his own technique should be above your own personal interpretation though. Not just that but I just explained that Gojo back then needed to do it manually however after learning Reverse Cursed Technique he decided to take what he did manually and make it automatic for detecting things based off not only their cursed energy intensity but the speed, mass, and shape. So based off that my point of things being faster than what it can detect should be able to bypass it. So it detecting Yuji would for a fact be accurate because that's what's happening. To say that it doesn't make sense because you feel it being non sentient wouldn't allow such a thing is basically inserting that your own opinion should be above what's actually happening in the story that Gege wrote. That and it's literally just an automatic technique. There's been quite a few of those in all types of fiction. And I don't really see any reason why the technique itself should be massively faster than Gojo himself. For things like that like I said before there should be evidence to support something rather than just blind skepticism. Also Sukuna cutting Gojo in half and explaining how he did it was a very good debunk of it. Sukuna said that Mahoraga gave him a model of Gojo's infinity and he used that model to target the entire space and existence that was the infinity and cut it. It was even described as "the world themselves" which is in reference to the interview where Gege openly said the space wasn't infinite and Gojo controls a space around him called Gojo's Sekai or world. If it was actually infinite space then the slash would have cut much more. Also I appreciate being called goated but you have to keep in mind I have done alot of research on the infinity and that's why I know it. The Achilles And The Tortoise is also a theory that takes place in a finite space too btw. And there's nothing suggesting that infinity just changed when he became an adult so unless there's evidence of it doing so I'll keep it the way it is. I would be bias if I just changed the description of a technique to favor Gojo when there's not only evidence to the contrary but when there's nothing suggesting it's actually changed.
Muzan has no win condition, he can't hurt Mahito's soul in anyway. Meanwhile a simple touch by Mahito can cause Muzan to explode like Nanami did and Muzan has no soul based regeneration.
Mahito Slaughter's the cast
Here’s my scaling for both:
1-Muzan:
-being the king of demons, should be superior to Kokushibo who’s leagues above Zenitsu who was stated to be as fast as a flash of light meaning Muzan realistically is FTL+ to MFTL All speed
-in season 4 episode 8, A healthy Muzan couldn’t dodge a point blank explosion, the highest explosion velocity is a detonation velocity which is around 8200m/s, or 23x the speed of sound, Muzan couldn’t dodge this explosion, and he wasn’t off guard he quotes: “I figured he was planning something, but not something to this scale” indicating that Muzan knew Ubuyashiki would have a plan, the plan in question being? Who knows, maybe the hashiras jumping him? The list goes on, he should be on guard and to back it up, he’s quite literally in an enemy territory
-taking the blitzing rule, 23/10= Mach 2.3 which is Muzan’s highballed speed
-the Muzan earthquake is no where near City block as he only affected the ground under him and the shake pressure was felt only a few meters away from him, it would scale to Wall level
-Doma creating budhas is also a fodder feat as this doesn’t upscale Doma’s AP via universal energy, creating something with the verse energy≠AP, and the calc is inconsistent, it was put a town when it didn’t even destroy the room they’re fighting in?? Gyutaro destroying district only gets him to small building as the attack couldn’t even destroy the ground and only affected the wooden houses
-Mitsuri dodged lightning? Prove the lightning was real, Mitsuri legit cuts the lightning as proven by Zoha, lightning is immaterial and not a solid object meaning it can’t be cut “she just swung her sword” if that was the case she should’ve somewhat someway gotten electrocuted since her sword will work as a conductor, “Nichirin blade nullify blood demon art that’s why” the only example we saw is Tanjiro, you can’t prove the same case would be for Mitsuri as Tanjiro, just like Yoriichi is isolated from the verse, and to debunk this even more, she couldn’t react to a Mach 1 attack from Zoha and no she wasn’t 100% off guard, her being a hashira, she should know that “Nichirn blades nullify blood demon arts” which if it was true, she would’ve done the same thing to the sound wave, 1/10= Mach 0.1 being Mitsuri’s high balled speed😭🙏
-same thing for Zenitsu, kaigaku’s lightning have been disproven to be actual lightning as it doesn’t have lightning traits
Conclusion: Base/healthy Muzan is around Mach 2 being generous with an AP of at least street/city block
2-Mahito
-Mahito is interesting to say the least, he’s obviously superior to Dagon who blitzed Maki who in season 1 already performed a Mach 7 feat of catching bullet point blank range, it was a rubber bullet and the Mach 7 end is for real bullet speed, a rubber bullet should be faster via having lower muzzle velocity and lower mass, although via’s air’s reflective index, it should’ve slowed down, either way it’s above Mach 7, blitzing rule, 7x10= Mach 70 a low ball of Dagon’s speed meaning Mahito is easily above Mach 70 which is already faster than every demon slayer character, I disagree with Dagon being island to country via creating a tropical island as I said, creating something out of the verse energy≠AP, the safest way is to take Jogo’s AP which scales to Large city, Mahito being a fellow Natural disaster curse should scale to that
-Mahito taking many hits from Yuji who counters the soul and not taking any damage from him, easily puts him at Large city AP, since season 1 Yuji was able to damage Hanami who’s superior to Jogo who himself is city
-Domains have a barrier that can’t be broken as not even Gojo could, so the downgrade of people getting blitzed by domains is out of the way
Conclusion: there’s really not a lot to talk about Mahito except for these, although something I haven’t mentioned, finger bearer are curses with Sukuna’s fingers, meaning they scale to 1F Sukuna, and they managed to blitz both Yuji and Megumi who should scale to S1 maki who I said is Mach 7, Jogo compared himself to 8-9F Sukuna while being generous, meaning Jogo is around 5-6F, Mahito being superior should scale him above 7F or 9F which gets him above Mach 100😭🙏
Maybe pin? (Couldn’t really care, just sharing my opinion, Muzan is a fodder😭🙏)
@@Chiraqy We can debate everything you disagree with. And no I'm not pinning this lol.
@@animezparadisez69 just shared my scaling on both characters
Demon slayer characters are fodders if you want refute my scaling
@@Chiraqy Ok I'll refute both your scaling for Demon Slayer and JJK in a debate. Drop your tag.
@@Chiraqy I don't use disc anymore so you'll have to slide your IG. Sorry I didn't specify for tag.
@@animezparadisez69 I don’t got instagram, I only have discord 🤷♂️ we could settle it here
Predictions before i watch the video
Muzan: large town level via his earthquake feat and mhs via upscaling from many characters who have mhs feats
Mahito: large town-small city level via scaling to jogos meteor and supersonic+ - hypersonic from upscaling above makis bullet catching feat.
Muzan overall has better stats but has no way of damaging mahito since he doesn't have soul damage + muzan gets domain diffed.
@@odin.... Question. Do you consider the massively hypersonic feats from characters in JJK or just Demon Slayer?
@animezparadisez69 jjk does have some mhs feats but mahito doesn't scale to any of them
@odin.... And what are you basing that off of? Also it's questionable to assume he's around the same speed as Maki from the Goodwill Event. I do realize you said he upscales but we know based off feats he should be much faster than her by the time he fully transformed.
@@animezparadisez69 No evidence he scales to jackpot hakari. I didn't put mahito higher than supersonic+ - hypersonic because the difference in speed between him and goodwill maki isn't quantifiable. Same reasoning I don't have muzan higher than mhs.
@odin.... There is but people are just denying it at this point lol. But sure if we use that logic for just Mahito then the feat for Mitsuri can be argued an outlier. I don't get down with arguing characters lower than what they should be then arguing someone being exactly what they are. It seems bias. Not just that but it's similar to saying Todo is the exact same despite the fact he should be faster than Maki as well despite we know he has better lines of scaling.
"Strongest disaster curse" jogo slams
@@odin.... At this point I'm convinced y'all haven't read JJK💀
@@animezparadisez69ive read the whole thing
facts... Jogo slams.
@@revenantronin8377 Yeah you haven't read it
I mean if you want to wank mahitos speed he can be scaled to mechumarus lazers that he fired at mahito, and mahito was able to react and dodge them although i think its inconsistent since at this point mahito should only be several times faster than sound. Although I believe mahito no diffs muzan, there's nothing muzan can do to mahito and mahito can one tap muzan.
While i dont exactly believe Muzan can beat Mahito i do think there were certain factors to consider, Muzan's ability is Biokinesis, being able to control his body however he desires and to change it to how he desires shown how he can shift between different forms, example the child form, what i think is that muzan will get his soul manipulated but could use Biokinesis to shift his body back into shape, but i still think mahito would win from the power scaling difference
@@Vectorohyeah-b9s Can you show evidence his soul is being affected by his biokinesis because that sounds more like head canon rather than definitive evidence he can resist Idle Transfiguration. Not to mention how would he know what exactly to do to counter it and how would he be able to even see Mahito if he doesn't have a power source that can be equalized into cursed energy?
@@animezparadisez69 i never said he could "resist" idle transfiguration i said he could undo it by shifting his body around or even splitting himself apart and rearranging himself back together similar to the yoriichi fight, and seeing how your bringing cursed energy into this i would say its fair to say bringing in domains in the video should be an issue, Muzan doesnt carry cursed energy which means while yes he would be more damaged by most of the attacks, he wouldnt be seen as a person within a domain
@@Vectorohyeah-b9s Yes can you show evidence to support your claims because once again it sounds like head canon rather than anything definitive. And we know for a fact Mahito's Domain would work because we've seen his cursed technique affect humans as well. There wouldn't be a lock on but it would certainly kill Muzan instantly. Not that it matters because it doesn't change anything I said previously.
@@animezparadisez69 While i would agree muzan would die to it, there is a difference, humans in the JJK verse still carry very small amounts of cursed energy, even with that small amount its enough for the domain to target and see them, while muzan would be seen an animate object and act similar to toji's heavenly restriction since domains register people by their cursed energy since Muzan isnt from the verse he simply doesnt count as a person
@@Vectorohyeah-b9s That doesn't mean it won't work at all doh. And we'd know that Idle Transfiguration would work on Toji as well seeing how the technique itself affects ones soul. And once again this doesn't matter because it doesn't refute the things I said before. If you want to debate with a judge on this we can.
Mahito clears the verse
Gojo violate, sukuna humiliate
@bikuta9958 your profile was all I needed to know you are a DS fan
Scaling isn't really usefull in this fight honestly, Mahito already outhax, he just needs to touch Muzan one time to make him his victim.
W video tho 🔥
Muzan is leagues faster by feats and scaling, and has easily superior physicals via scaling above the likes of Mitsuri, Akaza, etc.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b We can debate this
@@animezparadisez69 Why bother when the feats speak for themselves?
Even Gyutaro can destroy a whole district and that guy is laughably inferior to Muzan in everything.
And Akaza & Rengoku can create massive shockwaves during their fights.
And there's Mitsuri, who can ragdoll and destroy large building sized dragons of Hantengu.
All these feats are easily comparable, if not far above what guys like Shibuya Yuji and Todo have done.
And that's not even bringing up the laughably superior speed of Muzan.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b If you refuse to debate then don't attempt to antagonize people. It's embarrassing. Also you ignored everything else that was mentioned. The best feat you mentioned at best is around city block level to maybe multi city block level so it doesn't make sense to wank. Also Mitsuri almost died to Hantegu so idk why lie there. And you didn't mention anything that actually scales Muzan above where I put him.
Muzan cant even hurt mahito
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b are you forgetting that muzan cant really kill mahito because of his cursed technique. also mahito can idle transfigure muzan and it is already proven that normal regeneration cannot save you from idle transfiguration.
lets also not forget mahito has DE, and he can use the 0.2 second variant. muzan knows zero anti domain techniques and he is gonna get reduced to a pile of meat.
next point is yuji required a black flash, to literally multiply his damage to defeat mahito, and it took around 3 black flashes, all of them multiplied to defeat him. before this yuji couldnt do crap to him. mahito was taking all the punches absolutely unphased, muzan obviously cannot do this and even if he did, mahito would most likely be able to regenerate it easily.
not to mention all the powers muzan has, mahito can replicate because of his ability to manipulate his own soul into any shape. as well as being able to change muzan's body.
I don’t quite agree with the difficulty, tho I believe Muzan wins due to better speed and AP over mahito, only way he wins is touching muzan which he can’t or using domain expansion, which muzan can dodge before he gets caught under it
@@HaiderRaps Show what better AP feats Muzan has than him
Mahito isnt light speed at all
no one can dodge to the EM waves (sukuna didnt dodge it)
Mahito is island level via dagons domain
hes just a lighting timer if you argue ISB mahito is relative or above base kashimo who is lighting speed in all speed categories (not because of his sure hit lighting)
but ion really got mahito on the same pase as kashimo
@@grimesms We saw Sukuna dodge it so idk what manga you read. But if you don't believe Mahito is that's ok like I said more than once. But he should still be faster than fodder Shikigami attacks. Other than that everything else is fine.
He lit dodged it also mahito isnt island level
@Yuhhncv Ah yes you debunked the manga itself insane
Mahito beats ds easily
Muzan caps at 2-3 finger Sukuna level.
So stronger than Mahito.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b Mahito no diffs
@@animezparadisez69 Agreed. He no-diffs his chances of living when going up against Muzan.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b Naw Muzan gets one shot by Idle Transfiguration. Disagree then let's debate.
@@animezparadisez69no way he can no diff cry about it
It’s wasn’t going to be close any character in jjk can’t beat him what makes u think Muzan can
@@AshKetum-u3f Sukuna and Gojo no diff Mahito doh
This fight really depends on who you can scale being faster. Muzan's really only win-con is out staminaing Mahito which he could do.
Ik that Sukuna ftl feat isn't too consistent at times as in the same fight, he got hit by Kashimo's lightning and sound attacks.
Ik Muzan's scaling isnt too consistent sometimes either with the whole explosion thing. Although that feat could as well be an outlier as there are other characters in DS who have dodged actual lightning. (Yes the lightning is real😐 Its sky to ground lightning and has been shown properties as one like muscle contraction. If you use the Mitsuri cutting argument, you could just say she was cutting the plasma of the attack like how kakashi did in Naruto. Plus this is fiction, not everything will 100% abide by our rules)
These are just my thoughts. Respectfully
@@ARandomJorgi
1. I agree with this Muzan definitely has better stamina.
2. When scaling I take characters at their best. Not just that but I was introducing more of a possibility so that my fans or whoever is watching could think for themselves. It's kind of like planet level JJK or Black Clover's Black Hole. It's more of me wanting them to have their own interpretation for things. The same could also be said for DS lightning scaling.
3. I agree that Mitsuri should scale to lightning speed. It's just alot of people don't like the idea of using that same logic for other verses. Example JJK ofc. Or Fairy Tail. People really hate Fairy Tail for some reason.
I do thank you for being more respectful than the others btw. That's very appreciated.
@@animezparadisez69 no problem😁🙏 I really don't like arguing while trying to have a civil discussion on where we scale these fictional characters. I just think it's werid when you cuss someone out through text on our own opinions
Yeah, I can agree with the jjk lightning scaling too. I just agree that both verses have very inconsistent scaling at times. The only one in the DS Verse that for sure has 100% concrete scaling is Yoriichi, imo.
Like how if you really wanna lowball, you can get both these verses at like mach 3 and 4😭🙏 or how if you highball, you can scale the top tiers of both verses to ftl+
Very werid and inconsistent scaling
@ARandomJorgi True but I honestly haven't seen any scaling like that for either. Best for Sukuna is barely ftl even.
@@ARandomJorgi I mostly cuss out people who outright act like I'm an idiot. Which there's alot. And true Yoriichi is definitely the strongest in the verse ngl.
Mahito is MHS+ - FTL, but not because of Sukuna
Mahito is nowhere near Hypersonic or FTL. This is some delusional wank with no basis.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b neither has muzan.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5bMuzan is not surpassing Mach 3
Mahito I easily HHS+ to MHS
@@Chiraqy Mahito has nothing to put him at MHS+
And Muzan is well beyond Mach-3. This is plain delusion and ignorance considering even characters like Mitsuri are consistently casual lighting timers.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b I already sent a comment scaling both character
-Mitsuri’s feat is highly inconsistent via the fact she cuts lightning, lightning can’t be cut simple explanation to debunk the lightning attacks
-muzan couldn’t dodge a point blank explosion of a velocity of 8200m/s which is around 23x the speed of sound, meaning Muzan’s high balled speed is Mach 2.3 via blitzing rule
demon slayer verse is wekast and jogo is stronger than mahito
Weakest? Seems you haven't watched much anime, all hashiras shit on all first grade sorcerors in jjk
bro i have watched demon slayer dragon ball jjk naruto death note chansaw man two animes i dont remember names and im watching dandadan and if all hashiras fuck on 1 st grades what are they are all gonna do about special grades and who is sayng grade 4 grade 3 grade 2 are not gonna help 1 st grades so demon slayer is so fucked then for demons yuki or or itadori and megumi is enough and megumi means mahoraga im not talking about sukuna gojo yuta or kashimo what are they all gonna do about kashimos speed slash like demons head 😂😂😂
Get mahito past mach 3 and he can now enter in the verse.
@@African-AmericanGoose Get Muzan past multi city block and provide an energy system he uses that can be equalized or he loses lil bro. Also I already provided reasoning as to why he's faster than that. Wanna debate?
@bikuta9958 Telling me to read something when I offer a debate doesn't prove you right or me wrong. I said let's debate your take. If you're too scared then just say so lil bro but don't tell me to rewatch something because you're too slow to scale a verse outside Demon Slayer fr. Also liking your comment is embarrassing.
@bikuta9958 Wild how you're making baseless claims and bringing in religion simply because you're scared to debate me. Don't comment then lil bro. Only thing you can do is cry I'm a radical and hide in the comments with your tail between your legs. Professional victim mentality.
@bikuta9958 Lil chicken I did read and watch Demon Slayer. I'm sorry I don't scale Demon Slayer higher than what it is but you need to pull Muzan's dick out yo mouth. Not just that but you're bringing shit like "research into it". Lemme guess you google scans? Must be it because I read and watched the series so ik about all his feats I don't need to Google scans like you. And pride? That's you. You're being prideful but are scared to prove your claims. I was willing to debate and you got scared.
Muzan can regenerate faster therefore he wins eventually being able to overpower the king of curses
@@BeeBoiVR First of all Sukuna would one shot so idk why you're mentioning him. Second of all show me a single scan him regenerating damage to his soul.
Even if his destroyed he can regenerate even faster than mahito and no curse can one shot him in the last battle muzan was weakened atleast 70 percent and still almost won@@animezparadisez69
@@smilingsingh6426Sukuna Just Need to use "world slash" cutting space and reality,
Since It was abel to deny Gojo's reverse curse technique regeneration
@@smilingsingh6426Mahito is literally indestructible for muzan,since muzan can't damage his soul
@@AsuraKish8n665Was able to cut through infinity,not rct
Mahito is not stronger than muzan less be honest. Look Mahato couldn't take down Yuji and Yuji cant even use a cursed technique. Plus remember the lighting base attacks we see numu use are not real lighting. Its made from cursed energy. Same as the blood demon arts the lighting made from them aren't real lighting. So Mitsuri and other characters in the verse aren't lighting speed their a bit lower. But Muzan is stronger and faster than every singal character in demon slayer IN HIS WEAKEN STATE so he would be arorund lighting speed IN HIS WEAKEN STATE. And we are taking muzan feats from the the one fight we have and that is not sold evdince because hes weaken so yeah.
@@lynettegarcia.3390
1. Not being able to use a cursed technique when you have insane attack potency doesn't mean anything and doesn't refute the things I said in this video.
2. There's nothing insinuating that it's slower than natural lightning at all unless you can provide evidence of such. Even then if you want to use that logic the Hashira could barely move a few feet to save a civilian in time. That would make them slower than sound. I can minimod stuff too.
3. You just claim with zero evidence Muzan is lightning speed after being dishonest about the other metas that were mentioned. Give evidence since you want to play that game.
4. If you disagree with the video we can debate with a judge.
@@animezparadisez69 his arguments were bad but i do agree that blood art lightning isnt actual lightning, and my reason is that slayer mark mitsuri couldn't react to or dodge sound based attacks against the same upper moon Who was using lightning. Based on that, there's no reason to believe kaigaku's lightning is really lightning speed either
@@thecomte7367 Now see that's what doesn't make sense. It's essentially saying a faster Mitsuri isn't as fast as a slower Tanjiro who outright dodged sound while injured. Plus in the fight we did see Mitsuri dodge some of them. The only attack I can think of is where she was caught off guard. Plus if we have to be skeptical of the lightning wouldn't it be weird not to question how fast the sound based attacks are either? There's too much going for the attacks actually being that fast to the contrary. Also if we do that then we should question power scaling as a whole. Is sound this fast in this verse? Is light this fast? Who's to say what this character says actually applies to our logic? I could even make arguments that Hashira aren't even as fast as a normal human. But see we take characters at their best do we not? If I have to low-ball one verse and scale the other properly wouldn't I just be lying to my audience?
@@thecomte7367 Mitsuri could react to the attack. She was merely mid-decapition attempt with Hantengu and couldn't stop herself. Hantengu's lightning is outright confirmed his fastest attack. And Mitsuri later on reacts to the same sound wave attacks casually.
Um look I'm not a power scaler I'm just starting to get into this stuff but look. The lighting based attacks seen in both anime are not real lighting. Look if it were real lighting every thing would be burnt. Lighting is 50,000 degrees Fahrenheit 5 times hotter than the sun. That would have melted mitsuris sword and ended every thing. The lighting used is not real lighting. So the characters in both series or not lighting fast. The lighting used in both series are the closets thing they will ever have to lighting. The lighting used is not as fast has real lighting we can see this when Mitsuri blocked the "lighting strikes" with her sword, Lighting has a top speed of lighting is 180mil meters per second. WAY FASTER THAN MUZAN AND MAHITO and mitsuri. If Mahito were faster than lighting the fight between him and Yuji would end in a flash (pun in tended) Yuji is 50 meters per second way slower than the speed of lighting. And i will say this i was wrong about Muzan being lighting fast that's Dum for me and anybody to say. And I didn't say that muzan would win I said that muzan is stronger than mahito not he would win.
The only fight we seen mahito in. He loses. Panda wasent worrying about max meteror he was worring about sukuna. And we dont know if youji is stronger than panda. Panda feets are limttted with the only one i can think of is he doiging a meteror. Wich yuji deff cant do he cant take on jogo but mahito?
@@lynettegarcia.3390 No Panda was definitely worried about that meteor. And the hell you mean Mahito has won fights pay attention. Also why are you talking about Yuji when the video is Muzan vs Mahito?
Factually incorrect? Mahito defeated Mechamaru, Nanami and Nobara and almost killed Todo. He also almost killed Yuji himself. Also Panda was shitting himself when that meteor dropped.
Y’all still talking about this ?
muzan speedblitzes the whole verse and stops at 16 finger sukuna
Not proving that so why bother?
@@Chiraqy They don't have to prove much when the feats back it up. And not like you're one to speak, Mr. City-level Mach-100 Shibuya Mahito & Yuji who tries to scale via Hanami and Jogo, even though Jogo doesn't has at best city-block level feats via Maximum Meteor and his lava melting a few buildings. And that's via his DC/AP, which Hanami doesn't scale from as she's only more durable than Jogo and nothing else.
@@JCF245 Let's debate then
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b Yes they do the burden of proof is on them to prove that. Don't tell people they don't have to prove things and can just make baseless claims.
average curse spirit beats entierty of demon slayer, cuz they dont have cursed energy, your arguement is severly flawed
Nobody cant debate with you huh?
They don't want to from the looks of it. Only a few did.
anyways are you gonna upload or?
@@lynettegarcia.3390 I beg your pardon?
Are you gonnna upload a video like
@lynettegarcia.3390 I work at my own pace. Plus there's literally a video that was uploaded yesterday.
Quit yappin muzan slams, in plus Mahito has no way of killing muzan
😂😂😂
Muzan can't damaged Mahito in any way since he can't damaged his soul!
Also Mahito doesn't Need to kill him, he can Just use "idle transfiguration" to change Muzan soul into everything he want
Watch JJK next time
@@AsuraKish8n665he changes his soul so what? only works against fodder . That argument is dumb since muzans main blood demon art is biokenesis. So if you temper with his soul he will still fix his body which is important. Muzan slams that fodder
Watch demon slayer next time🫠
@eljudah6582 Learn how to power scale you need to show evidence he can heal his soul. Y'all assume healing your body counters then provide zero counterargument to anyone asking for evidence he can heal his shit on a spiritual level. Read something other than Demon Slayer and learn how to properly scale.
@animezparadisez69 same goes for you bud, prove that someone with muzans level of physical manipulation can't heal from mahito soul attacks. Once you do that, you'd also learn to how to properly powerscale and not the clown show you're displaying here. Read something other than jjk and learn to properly powerscale🫠🫠
@eljudah6582 Simple there's nothing suggesting he can. Healing your body doesn't automatically mean you're also healing your soul. So if you want to get technical you need to prove your claim that he can heal his soul along with his body. The burden of proof is on you. Also you're the little punk who called me a retard and still hasn't dropped a tag or anything. You don't even understand how soul manipulation works that's sad lmfao. And I do I've made several other videos and most of them are of JJK losing. Shut because Shit Slayer is weak af doesn't mean I'm bias which is more than I can say for you.