The Ultimate Affordable NVME Housing: Unveiling the Best in Speed, Build Quality, and Price!

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024

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  • @sanysmail
    @sanysmail 2 года назад +2

    Very helpful to rescue me from my dilema on my first ever External SSD to use with my M1 ipad pro and other windows devices.

  • @benperkins2929
    @benperkins2929 2 года назад +1

    Best video out there on this subject. Well done!

  • @dddsa5951
    @dddsa5951 Год назад +40

    No offense, but this 20 minute video could be a diagram

    • @nadamuchu
      @nadamuchu Год назад +7

      meh, speak for yourself, I appreciated the handholding as he walked us through everything.

    • @iconoclast6994
      @iconoclast6994 Год назад

      Meh to you…

    • @BridgeTROLL777
      @BridgeTROLL777 10 месяцев назад

      It helped me so meh to you....
      The man is creating free content, which might be helpful to people and even if it isnt "optimal" in your opinnion pushing people down for trying to do something is petty and pathetic.

  • @vividmotion66
    @vividmotion66 Год назад +16

    Interesting test. But what about the temps of the NVMe and the cooling capability of each enclosure?

    • @TPF00T
      @TPF00T Год назад

      NAND flash like to be warm, so cooling it too much is not good for longevity. Luckily, that simplifies the testing process because NVME drives automatically lower their transfer speed to keep themselves from getting too hot. This means that you don't have to compare temperature to choose the best drive, you can just look at which enclosure has the highest transfer speeds. The enclosure that gives you the best transfer speeds is also doing the best job of keeping the drive cool. So if you look at the numbers on this video, you already have the full picture and can easily choose the best option (at least out of the ones he tested).

    • @shapelessed
      @shapelessed Год назад +1

      ​@@TPF00T This is a damn terrible advice...
      Transfer speeds will not only be affected by the USB controller on the host side but the USB/NVMe controller/chipset inside of the enclosure and its quality. Simply looking at the "speed" will not tell you the temperatures, especially since every model of an NVMe controller will tolerate different temperatures before throttling. And that's even not to mention the RAM used in the specific SSD, its brand, type and capacity...

    • @TPF00T
      @TPF00T Год назад

      @@shapelessed I'm not following. He was asking about the temperatures, and I was informing him that it isn't a particularly useful metric. The only time temps matter is if the speed drops off a couple of seconds into a transfer, indicating that the drive is throttling. So no, looking at the speed will not tell you the temperatures, but knowing the temperature doesn't help you. Knowing if the enclosure is cooling enough to maintain full speed does help you.

    • @TPF00T
      @TPF00T Год назад

      @@shapelessed You understand that this guy tested the same drive in several enclosures, correct? Same chipset, same usb controller, different enclosures.

  • @felixedin8764
    @felixedin8764 Год назад

    Thank you for your testings! Exactly what I was looking for! :)

  • @ekphotography
    @ekphotography Год назад +2

    I can only find these 2 ICY box options, Is one better than the other for an M1 MacBook Air and Samsung EVO Plus?
    ICY BOX M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure with Gaming and Fan and Innovative Heatsink Design with USB 3.1 Gen 2 Transfer Speed for Connecting to Type-C and Thunderbolt 3 Ports
    or
    ICY BOX M.2 NVMe Enclosure for M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD, USB 3.1 (Gen 2, 10 Gpbs), USB-C & USB-A Cable, Aluminum, Black
    Price is not much different...? Thanks Mainly for editing 4K video in FCPX

  • @RaymondParkerPhoto
    @RaymondParkerPhoto 2 года назад +4

    Thanks. I'm wondering if any of these support more than 2TB SSDs -- specifically 4TB and also wonder if they work with M1 Ultra.

  • @BronzeGoddess
    @BronzeGoddess Год назад +4

    Thank you for this in depth review. Perfectly done! Appreciate it. ❤

  • @HiltonT69
    @HiltonT69 Год назад

    Thorough testing. Great vid.

  • @mariodasilva8729
    @mariodasilva8729 Год назад +1

    I agree TOTALLY with your view that READ SPEEDS are important when EDITING videos, after all, isn't that what saves us time when rendering a final edit?! Thanks so much for this comparison. However I did not see you trying this out with the Sabrent ROCKET SSDs... yet. I will be using 2Terabyte SSDs for the SCRATCH files and it really matters when FINAL editing to save production time. Do you agree?

  • @BadEagle
    @BadEagle 2 года назад

    Great test! Really clear and complete, thanks a lot!

  • @EricLeung-hk
    @EricLeung-hk 2 года назад +5

    Please include the surface temperature for comparison. The faster the ssd run, the boiling heat to hurt your hands

    • @kfl611
      @kfl611 2 года назад +3

      I like my external nvme enclosures to have a fan.

    • @sonnyobrien
      @sonnyobrien 2 года назад

      Just BLOW ON IT MATE

  • @snfgriefers
    @snfgriefers 2 года назад

    awesome testing, finally precise :) thanks

  • @nmac.
    @nmac. 2 года назад

    Thanks, Great video, this is what I'm looking for.

  • @JudgeFredd
    @JudgeFredd Год назад

    Great in depth review - tx!

  • @fleemwings207
    @fleemwings207 2 года назад +7

    Nice testing, Chris. It would be interesting to see how the SK Hynix Gold P31, the Platinum P41, the WD Blue SN570 and the WD Black SN770 perform with these enclosures.
    It seems to me that there are some issues with the controller/bridge for this kind of device. USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) devices can deliver 1,000 MBps read and 900 MBps write speeds while USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 (20 Gbps) devices does 2,000 MBps reads and 1,900 MBps writes. So I wonder why USB 4 (40 Gbps) devices fall short and are barely faster than USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 devices? Considering that USB 4 enclosures are almost 3 times the cost of USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 and almost 7 times the cost of USB 3.2 Gen 2 enclosures, I would think very long and hard before buying them.

    • @jirikocman
      @jirikocman Год назад

      Thunderbolt devices are back compatible with 3.2 gen 2. Gen 2x2 is not mandatory for thunderbolt certification. USB4 is OK as it is still USB protocol with same or better speeds - USB4 requires only 20Gbit/s, 40Gbit/s is optional for USB4

  • @flymanhawaii
    @flymanhawaii 2 года назад

    Thank you for the testing. Helpful for me to make the decision.

  • @laurentbenoit5842
    @laurentbenoit5842 2 года назад +1

    Hi Chris, thanks for the test and for the time spent. Could you share any info you may have on heat and heat dissipation on the Acasis housing please ?

    • @ChrisSpiegl
      @ChrisSpiegl  2 года назад

      At this time I have not specific data about this.

  • @banemicic
    @banemicic Год назад

    Great testing! Can you install Samsung 980 Pro with heatsink into Acasis housing or there is no need for buying heatsink model?

  • @D3athW1ng
    @D3athW1ng Год назад

    Great review, detailed. The text is hard to read on mobile though ... So .. tiny. Still an awesome video.

  • @LeicaM11
    @LeicaM11 17 дней назад

    My Mac mini M1, Mac Studio M1 max and Mac mini M2 pro are having massive problems, connecting more than a single Thunderbolt device! I am using the Acasis/Anyono housings and right now testing OWC 1M2. A was always changing ports, cables and continued rebooting, no success… Always the connection of one Thunderbolt device gets lost on the Mac. Is Apple not able using two Thunderbolt devices at the same time?😢😮

    • @ChrisSpiegl
      @ChrisSpiegl  16 дней назад

      Sorry, I don't now this as I have never used multiple thunderbolt / USB 4.0 devices at the same time on my M1 Max MacBook Pro. I hope someone else may be able to chime in.
      Sidenote: really cool channel name… do you shoot with an M11?

  • @t0uchme343
    @t0uchme343 9 месяцев назад

    I have a yottamaster enclosure. It randomly stops transferring files,so now I'm looking at lc power, natec or icy box.

    • @ChrisSpiegl
      @ChrisSpiegl  8 месяцев назад

      I'd get the ACASIS or Orico. Those are solid housings with great speed.

  • @John-gm8ty
    @John-gm8ty Год назад +1

    sebrent has a wide issue of many units random disconnecting, I've even tried the 2023 firmware update, unit unusable, rand disconnects no matter what cable type.

  • @holgerblume5301
    @holgerblume5301 Год назад

    Thank you for your comprehensive test. I use Microsoft Onedrive on my Macbook and I want to synchronize Onedrive with a folder on an external drive. Therefore I am looking for an external storage which would have the Removable Media Bit set to "0". Do you know whether any of the tested packages are recognized by the MacBook as "non removable" or whether the controllers can be patched accordingly?

  • @TheYahn
    @TheYahn Год назад

    Have you had any failures reading hard drives with the Yottamaster through a USB connection?
    I could not get two high speed high capacity nvme drives going with it, two 2TB SN8250X's and two 1TB FireCuda 530's would not read and could not be initialized or formatted whilst connected to my PC's Z690 motherboard through usb.
    Meanwhile M1 Macbooks and Mac Studios read all of them without a hitch connected through Thunderbolt.
    It is most likely one of the two controller chips, the JMS583 for USB, included on most of these enclosures that are just not compatible with some nvme's. I say Some because I did manage to use the Yottamaster enclosure on all fronts with a 970 Evo in it, but that one is only 500GB and not enough space for my intent, so now I worry about getting another 2tb nvme. Have you tested either the 2TB 980 pro or 970 Evo to work through USB specifically?
    Thank you

  • @keemosaby3
    @keemosaby3 2 года назад +1

    This from Amazon (North America): The enclosure (ACASIS) does not support Samsung 970 Evo plus SSD

    • @ChrisSpiegl
      @ChrisSpiegl  2 года назад

      The strange thing is that it worked for me anyways. And very well indeed.

  • @Mars-1995
    @Mars-1995 Год назад +1

    What about housings with a fan ?

  • @taurusdengaming4586
    @taurusdengaming4586 10 месяцев назад

    Love that intro. Subbing on through lol

  • @kinglouie69
    @kinglouie69 9 месяцев назад

    Hi. I use the same condition of Orico housing and 980 Pro. But, My Max speed is 2300 read and write. Maybe the different laptop. I using the 2017 MBP with eGPU on test.

    • @ChrisSpiegl
      @ChrisSpiegl  8 месяцев назад

      You are very right that the laptop may make a difference here. I tested speeds with a 2015 MacBook Pro and those are slower than the new M1 that I am using. Thunderbolt and USB 4 did change a lot in that timeframe.
      Though: 2300 read/write is still very performant! So, you should be good for most things you throw at that.

  • @atharnadeemshaik2000
    @atharnadeemshaik2000 2 года назад +1

    Hi bro ..i have hp pavilion laptop with 1tb hdd...my laptop supports only sata slot and should i go for sata internal ssd or should i go for external ssd or should i buy internal nvme ssd and enclosure ..my laptop has one usb 3.0 port...
    Does connecting nvme ssd with enclosure with 3.0 usb is faster than internal sata ssd?

  • @Anonymous-mf8ii
    @Anonymous-mf8ii 2 года назад +1

    When you do these benchmarks, could you also run them on a Windows machine? I purchased an enclosure and SSD based on this video. While the read performance was as expected, the write performance on the EVO 970 plus connected to a Thunderbolt port on a new Dell XPS 17 (9710) was slower than my Sandisk Extreme USB 3 drive.
    I opened a support case with Amazon and they set up a conference call with Samsung who said the drive was not supported in an external housing.
    Since I don’t have the time or hardware to chase down the problem, I returned the external enclosure.

    • @kfl611
      @kfl611 2 года назад

      That to me sounds like a lot of baloney. A nvme should work equally as well in an external and internal enclosure - pcie connections excepted.

    • @Anonymous-mf8ii
      @Anonymous-mf8ii 2 года назад +1

      @@kfl611 After I returned the external enclosure I ran across this video. ruclips.net/video/0KGgER5MGLw/видео.html
      If the problems I saw were due to Windows disabling write cache by default, hardware support from Samsung and the enclosure manufacturer should have known about it. I don’t have the time or money to set up a testing lab.
      If losing power to the write cache is a real problem, why don’t the manufacturers add a capacitor to the enclosure circuitry to allow the cache writes to complete?

    • @kfl611
      @kfl611 2 года назад

      @@Anonymous-mf8ii I worked in a data center and our servers had cache batteries in them. They were about the size of a stick of gum, and if the server lost power for any reason the battery was supposed to save what ever info was in memory, till the power was restored and it could be written to the disks. Sometimes the servers had 1, 2 or 3 batteries in them, and sometimes there was no way to tell which one was bad. Sometimes they would be bumpy, and we could tell that was the one that needed to be replaced. I wonder if companies think it is important any more to keep their customers happy. You are right, it would not have cost but a few pennies to have a capacitor in there to hold cache stable, or allow somehow for write caching.

    • @Anonymous-mf8ii
      @Anonymous-mf8ii 2 года назад

      @@kfl611 same here - the newer raid controllers went to supercapacitors.
      The only way we knew a drive failed was through lights and error messages. We barely noticed the slowdown during the rebuild on the hot spare.
      In the good old days I had one raid system recovery that took a week. After that, management was willing to spend more money on a UPS and drop the third party drives.

  • @qnprogrammer
    @qnprogrammer 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video.

  • @Av8rThor
    @Av8rThor Год назад

    Good comparison! Funny thing using the Acasis with a 980 pro on my 2017 iMac on my Thunderbolt 3 (USB 3.1) 40Gps I get low speeds in comparison 1209w-1655r then 2nd read dropped to 126w-1676r tested with black magic, what gives?

  • @Elazarko
    @Elazarko Год назад

    Which do you recommend between the most baougt Orico or Ugreen SSD enclosures from AliExpress?

  • @samfrazier5599
    @samfrazier5599 2 года назад +3

    Thank you very much for this. As a fellow video editor, it's especially interesting to me that you say the read speeds are far more important than the write speeds when it comes to video editing. I thought the write speeds also came into play when rendering sections of a timeline that wouldn't play back w/o dropping frames/ won't play back at full resolution, etc. Then there's exporting projects from the editor as well. I've never done tests on these tasks though, so I don't really know. Would you mind explaining? I'd love to say some $ and buy something like the 970 Evo over the 980 Pro!

    • @ChrisSpiegl
      @ChrisSpiegl  2 года назад +6

      There are use-cases in which the write speeds are important (using the drive as a cache drive or when exporting to the external SSD). Personally, I use the internal drive for cache and export and mostly use the external drive to store the project files which pretty much only get read anyways. That's why I would choose the 970 EVO if money is a constraint.

    • @samfrazier5599
      @samfrazier5599 2 года назад

      @@ChrisSpiegl Thanks!!

    • @XL1411
      @XL1411 Год назад

      @@ChrisSpiegl have u ever try using the external for editing, cache and export? If Yes how much is the difference compare to the 970 EVO to using internal drive? As currently, i am deciding between the MBP M1 Max 24GPU/64GB Ram (2TB+ WD HDD 5TB for Storing or The 512GB + But external SSD for 970 EVO Cache Editing & Export)
      Thanks in advance for sharing ur experiences!

    • @ChrisSpiegl
      @ChrisSpiegl  Год назад +2

      I have the 1 TB M1Max and can always recommend going for more internal storage if possible. But both, the 970 and 980 are also incredible for editing. I am working with Multicam 4K timelines with files from my canon eos r / r5c and pretty much never run into disk speed limitations.

    • @XL1411
      @XL1411 Год назад

      @@ChrisSpiegl Just another question, so do u use any of the 1TB storing the raw footage for editing or do you also store all FCPX file and raw footage in an External Hard Disk? and then Transfer in & Out from Internal Hard Disk to External Hard disk?
      As currently i am going to Upgrade my M1 Macbook Air to a Macbook Pro, but currently i didnt really use my Internal Hard Disk at all, so i was thinking to save the money going for the lowest 512GB Internal, as there is a huge discount for 16" 24core GPU, 64gb Ram and 512GB, but the 1or2 TB internal Harddisk upgrade is about 800-1,4k Difference, so would like to seek your advice! Thanks alot for looking into my question

  • @vomgd
    @vomgd Год назад +1

    SSD Enclosure (housing LOL ;D "German english") is not responsible for the speed here, but the PCIe. PCIe 3.0 SSDs will be slower than PCIe 4.0 SSDs. Even if the interface of SSD Enclosure is 3.94 GB/s, a PCIe 4.0 SSD will run faster.

  • @MobileDecay
    @MobileDecay Год назад +1

    Do you have a list of ones that will actually stay connected? Lol.

    • @ChrisSpiegl
      @ChrisSpiegl  Месяц назад

      I'm happily using the ACASIS USB-4 housing and have never had any disconnect issue. Been using it for a few years now.

  • @yurib9200
    @yurib9200 Год назад

    Have you tested with KINGSTON KC3000 2Tb?

  • @zzr400cc
    @zzr400cc Год назад

    I have a m.2 with heatsink what do you recommend enclosure plug and play not removing the built in heatsink. Thanks

  • @daoud1608
    @daoud1608 2 года назад

    Will work with “SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD with Heatsink 2TB PCIe Gen 4 NVMe M.2 Internal Solid State Hard Drive”

  • @manojkale9733
    @manojkale9733 2 года назад

    Will the new SN770 perform better than SN750 on Acasis enclosure?

  • @JoshuaYoung2
    @JoshuaYoung2 2 года назад

    Great video but most of them are unavailable in Canada. Damn

  • @hpsfresh
    @hpsfresh Год назад

    Just can’t understand. ORICO is 40 gbit/sec (which is 5 gbyte/sec). Samsung drive is faster than that. Why this combination speed is so low?

  • @user-yv2te2hv8w
    @user-yv2te2hv8w Год назад

    Tnks for yest. Tell me the model acasis

  • @belsteed6050
    @belsteed6050 2 года назад +1

    I have like 10 nvme around house and multiple pcs and I wanted a solution to just access a nvme like a standard hard drive so have a quick look what is inside and format them if needed, so this is actually what it does?

    • @ChrisSpiegl
      @ChrisSpiegl  Год назад +1

      Yes, you can do this with these housings. But if you really just want a docking station, maybe you should buy an NVME docking station?

  • @Hubbycat
    @Hubbycat 2 года назад +1

    I have noticed that you have tested Samsung 970 EVO Plus with ACASIS enclosure, I looked at their WEB site and it lists 970 EVO Plus as unsupported. Did you have any issues with that SSD?

    • @ChrisSpiegl
      @ChrisSpiegl  2 года назад +3

      In my tests I did not find out why they would say that. For me the drive performed great.

    • @Hubbycat
      @Hubbycat 2 года назад

      @@ChrisSpiegl Thanks Chris very much for your quick reply. I feel that EVO 970 Plus is sweet spot for price and performance.

    • @ChrisSpiegl
      @ChrisSpiegl  2 года назад +2

      @@Hubbycat I found the same.

    • @teozuzu
      @teozuzu 2 года назад

      @@ChrisSpiegl Have you encountered any random disconnects with any combination of enclosure and ssd?
      As for the 970 Evo Plus, there are 2 versions. Have read somewhere that the old version has the box horizontal and the new version has the box vertical and this new version performs better.
      Thanks.

  • @DaveFlash
    @DaveFlash Год назад

    to clarify, apple does not support and has not supported 3.2/2x2 for usb, only thunderbolt 4, thunderbolt 3, usb 4, usb 3.1 (10gb), usb 3.0 (5gb) usb 2.0 and usb 1.1, on any of their silicon products, why that is only apple knows, though it should be noted, appropriately equipped docks/hubs with their own usb controller chips, may, I repeat: may give access to usb 3.2 mode, but it ain't guaranteed

  • @ToddJayPhotography
    @ToddJayPhotography Год назад

    Has anybody found an enclosure that fits the Samsung 980Pro WITH the heatsink? Looks like all of these do NOT have heatsinks (I currently have two drives without heatsinks in the Orico enclosure).

  • @kryptkeeper457
    @kryptkeeper457 Год назад

    Are there nvme enclosures that use USB A, instead of usb c?….

  • @rayrayrun
    @rayrayrun 2 года назад

    what format are these drive did you set them? mine is exFat so I could get the crossflat use but I'm getting a lower read and write than these result.

    • @demon6937
      @demon6937 Год назад +1

      that's the drawbacks of using that format

  • @exclude_
    @exclude_ 2 года назад

    does the ACASIS housing overheat?

  • @anti-socialism
    @anti-socialism Год назад

    I bought SSD Samsung 980 but I don’t understand what enclosure to purchase. Any recommendations?

    • @anti-socialism
      @anti-socialism Год назад

      @@OKuusava thanks for the smart words but free markets are where the demand meets the supply and finds the best price for both sides. Lovely is how the commies can’t grasp this and always look to steal from productive and give to unproductive.

  • @albi3235
    @albi3235 Год назад

    Does somebody know how the performance with the Kingston KC3000 in the acasis case is?

  • @TravelMaximizer
    @TravelMaximizer Год назад

    Your favorite SSD housing is 139 Dollars? Doesn't make sense

  • @DamianBrown
    @DamianBrown Год назад

    Ahhhhh and right now the 980 pro is cheaper 😅 just when I thought I was going to go with your decision

    • @ChrisSpiegl
      @ChrisSpiegl  Год назад

      I actually also picked up a 980pro when it got cheaper 👍. It's an incredible drive.

  • @master.swordz
    @master.swordz 2 года назад

    Are the ssd in afps or exfat format?

    • @ChrisSpiegl
      @ChrisSpiegl  Год назад +1

      I tried both and they were close to being identical. However I decided to go with APFS for my long term use NVME because of the Journaling and such. Loosing the ability to simply plug it into other devices, but that's ok cause all my team uses macOS at this point.

  • @DJMannyC
    @DJMannyC 2 года назад

    Why do you keep looking off camera to your lower right?

  • @eric3434
    @eric3434 2 года назад +1

    Your testing method is completely flawed, and nothing can be gained from having watched it. The only thing i see in your tests is broken or incompatible hardware, noise, and cache write off.
    If your going to test in the way you are proposing you would need to run full >2tb volume transfers to heat up each enclosure and device to see which throttles first, and run off their cache. And not by using an speed-o-meter app that tests a 32mb transfer or whatever trivial amount that you had used. And you would need to plot the transfer speeds over time to see something meaningful (cache write off / thermal throttling).
    All of your devices are also nearly identical, and testing the NVMe's are going to be closely similar in value with the lack of accuracy that your using in your tests. (other than 'something broken' with the Icy Dock which is likely why they took it off the market, and 'something else broken' with whatever derelict P5 you were using).
    Also, If you want to test the USB4.0, you'll need something like a Firecuda 530 to do that.