@@djashovel Also valid, status quo really hurts characters and their stories. Sometimes they need to just let a change stick, instead of retconning or reseting to status quo.
@@djashovel There are a bunch of villains who do get redemption arcs. But I guess Doom just being way too iconic is probably why Marvel hesitant to change him too much.
tbf. reed and doom respect eachother somewhat because reed's one of a handful of people who has a intelligence on the same level as dr doom. even if his area of expertise is far more narrow.
@@Shark_RockIn fairness the difference in breadth is that Doom is both second place in terms of magical knowledge and scientific knowledge in the world, while Reed is considered first place in science, and the current Sorcerer Supreme first place in magic.
@@romanplays1 No. Doom could care less about Reed. The only person I've ever seen Doom even show a little respect to is Dr. Strange. Doom is way smarter than Reed too.
@@RhyperiorRanger "man dint you have a tec company sometime ago? And somehow you STILL broke! LOL!" "Yeah thats cool... SO DO YOU REMEMBER THE TIME YOU MADE DOOM TRY TO KILL YOUR FAMILY BECAUSE YOU CANT STOP FUCKING RANDOM PEOPLE *L* *O* *L* " "...At least i have a wife." "You f-"
@Holite I just rewatched the short and you're correct. I think from the panel where he smacks Johnny, Ben and Sue's face panels are wedged between them making it seem like they're standing between them when they aren't
Don't forget that Human Torch was practically binded to Kalia, who was his partner. So, not only did he cheat, but she also suffered from it (literally since Doom used a weapon on Torch for Cosmic mutation) until Johnny lost her by removing the connection.
It's crazy how Doom was on the verge of ending his rivalry with Reed and the Fantastic but Johnny couldn't keep it in his pants and literally put Doctor Doom back on his villain arc.🤣💀
It doesnt make sense for Doom to care tho....he would be insulted..but just roast Johnny in his normal commanding way and assert dominance over Victorious in a way that makes her want to fully submit
I think it was due to him trusting a lot Victorius , maybe like never interfering in her private life (using cameras and spies and such) to the point of almost making her his queen for the safety of Latveria
@@huntertezzcan you clarify? All I know is from this video? If Doom asked Zora to marry him, weren't they dating? Therefore she did cheat on Doom with Johnny?
For 2 seconds i thought," you know thats a nice gesture." Then i remembered Doom has achieved god like power on multiple occasions and uses it try and cuck Reed.
@@MrLednard yeah but come on, that sounds like a bit in a comedy. Doom: I know we've had our differences but you and your family are invited to my wedding and you can be my best man. So are we good? Reed: You've tried to kill me on a monthly basis for like 10 years. Doom: Yeah but are we good? Reed: You've brainwashed my wife and children Doom: Yeah but are we good? Reed: You cured my best friend then turned him back into a rockman just to spite me.
@@MrLednard familiar enough. Dude im just saying its funny. Everything i said in that imaginary little conversation blurb is a thing Doom has done to Reed personally and thats just what i know. There's like 50-70 years of dictated pettiness and attempted murder. You gotta admit, the idea it was almost solved by a wedding is pretty comical
@@batman369ablewould Doom just pop the question on her if they weren’t though? Why feel so guilty about it if it happened before they were together? I’m only guessing here, but it feels like the story was just set up with Johnny sleeping with Doom’s fiancé as the punchline.
I don’t know much about the FF, but I know that that kind of reprehensible behavior is WILDLY out of character for The Human Torch. That’s character assassination masquerading as “character flaw.” That’s disgusting and the writer should be ashamed.
@@fersho450 It reminds me of what’s been going on with Professor X for years, decades, even: a concerted, coordinated effort to assassinate his character by essentially rewriting history, and no single writer questioning why his historically righteous character has been treated as a moral monster for years on end.
@@mr.x6313 Johnny Storm has always been like this. His great character arc with the Inhumans was to fix his womanizing ways, but no. Not out of character for him if you read Fantastic Four comics. But this is an old trait of the character. Slept with The Thing's ex wife decades back just to spite him. There is a reason a lot of people dislike Johnny Storm, but he did get better for a while.
@@mr.x6313 Prof X has always been a little shady. He recruited scared teenagers into a paramilitary force to fight for his dream. He's kind of like Erwin from Attack on Titan. Great character and leader but with some darkness inside.
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The writer is Dan Slott. Character Assassination is his favorite past-time
Kinda, the bro code has different standards for aesthetically pleasing people. In a clique of multiple handsome dudes, chix are gon get passed around & you'll become Eskimo Cousins w/friends & enemies & Frenemies. Cuz when a hot chick is goin agro after u, it's Nigh-Impossible to not smash. Yea, it's a jerk move, but can & should be forgiven. Unless, it's a woman that they LOVE & she LOVED him, but if she Loved u too & there's prior history there, like before they met, then well...... you get it. Humans are complicated & even more so when it's beautiful (on the outside) humans. Cuz on the inside, we are ALL SH!T & deserve to Die & Burn. Which is why We DO! Best of Luck, you Ugly Young Person!
@djashovel i mean, there are quite a lot of mangas with horrible character development. You can choose to dislike comics, but comics and mangas are literally the same thing. The only difference is that manga is Japanese
@djashovel I don't think the situation is as manga vs. comic writers. The situation is that comics tend to reuse the same characters because it brings them profit and nostalgia and is a secure venue of cash, while manga is more of a hit or miss based on the popularity that each volume brings to the company, that's why there are so many stories being heard or published that doesn't past volume 1 or 3 because is not selling. A big example is Naruto manga creator. After finishing Naruto, he created a samurai 8, which didn't sell enough, and the manga was axe. That's only a known manga creator, unlike the ones that struggle to either be published or retain a consistent audience for their series to remain on float. If you get the chance, read east, into the night, or spider-man fake red. One ends in a somewhat neatly ending, and the other one ends sbruptly
@@djashovel I'm sorry but I disagree I think manga writing has a lot of issues too. Manga is cool, dont get me wrong, but, saying it doesnt have it's fair share of issues is kinda wild
Doom and the Fantastic Four have the most effed up relationship. From Doom being Valeria's godfather to leaving Doom in hell, they have run the entire gauntlet of possibilities of how they interact with each other
Peter is just completely unintentional rizz and the fact that he's also spiderman - so theres usually the matter of spiderman and black cat , and peter and MJ .
@@zealthethornydragonhe still had a little bit of Aura before he got the bite it was just completely unleashed once he got the bite, Uncle Ben was a rizz God
Ah yes the comic where I lost all my respect for Johnny The best part imo about this was Namor lmao his ass off when it happened which is bloody ironic when Namor himself constantly tries to get with Susan Overall Johnny can suffer All Hail Doom
Ah, I lost respect for him years ago when he slept with Ben Grimm's ex wife. You know the one that left him when he became The Thing and caused irreparable damage to that man's self esteem that he's never gotten over? That comic came out in the 90s, I read it in the 2000s. It's been fuck Johny Sprinkler ever since. To be honest the amount of times The Thing gets shafted by the rest of the "Family" is why I could never get into the Fantastic Four.
Peter has a rough man, because the women in his life either die or leave him.. And then when you think things are going great for him, something worse happens
Marvel just recently released a new possible love interest for Spiderman: The Spectacular Spider-Lass 😁 Since Marvel is now trying to make MJ and Paul into a thing and since Black Cat is dating more girls now 😑
@@taraungoogle8482 great more love intresst marvel can fuck up for peter or later can self insert themselves taking away to make spider boy suffer in there sick sadistic Pleasure
@@fenrir4446 What's crazy is she's a red head like MJ, flirty like Black Cat and a Spider themed hero like Silk Also, her official name is "Webhead", not Spiderlass And Peter went on a date with web head's alter ego(without either knowing) and they said that they're both boring but as heroes, Webhead is a fan of Spider-Man and they get along very well
Every other doctor doom story be like: Doom is willing to make amends with the FF and stop being a villain. Then, Human torch/Reed richards/Ben grimm do something to screw it up. Doom swears revenge, rinse repeat ad nausum
@@wolfgang6442and she knew instantly because they both were connected through an object that maked them share feelings or something like that, and after all this, she went and destroyed the object and refused to ever see him again
@@djashovel Morals are often mostly 90% subjective so it depends. But most people in 1st world countries agree that if it doesnt hurt anyone involved then its fine. Morality is human made idea. It didnt exist before we did. Its not eternal and it always changes over time. But there are certain points where it tends to stay the same over time due to common ground. For example nobody in a civil modern society is going to sit here and say "well merrder is good now I guess" unless you're hyper religous or an extremely off the rails person.
@@djashovelGonna need to see some research on that. Not by Prager U or like fox or oann. Some real boring science paper with a ton of big words with some famous people in it, at least 1
@@zehkiel8018 It aint accepted by half the country so idk what you're talking about. It's accepted by democrats' idea of society but its not accept by the typical republican idea of society. What do you think the Manosphere is? A reaction to hardcore feminists that say sleeping around is great. Yea theres plenty of guys that don't think its great. We're on a path to 2030 where America will have the largest population of single, childless, unmarried people in existence. I don't think the hook up culture ended up having great results mate
The Fact Johnny began laughing about it made it even more messed up. If I was the rest of the fantastic 4 I would have just stepped back and said. You know what Dr.Doom we didn't know he did that you can have him, we still cool right.
Did Johnny know that Zora was seeing Doom? Did he pressure her in any way or was Zora into it? I don't blame Victor for being pissed at Johnny but Zora really sucks with her timing.
He was pressuring Zora into ditching Doom the night before the wedding and trying to make her dump him, even though Johnny ALREADY HAD A FIANCÉ OF HIS OWN
@@bloodoftheunicorns2621 Aside from calling off the wedding, he said he "didn't want to see her face anymore". Granted, this was in a literal sense as she is still his lackey but now she wears a mask at all times, so he doesn't have to see her face.
Lol come on, iron man might have settled down with pepper but he also spent the majority of his adult life being a bigger playboy than anyone on the planet.
She-Hulk to Tony: You gotta bump those numbers up, them's rookie numbers. Legit She-Hulk has slept around so much in the comics that Zeus may be the only one with a higher count.
@dragonbornwerewolf actually her numbers are not quite as high as Tony and Johnny but she is close but fun fact: she hasn't slept with as many of her dates as people think
Comic book stories are trash like that… why would it make sense for dr doom to put so much effort on starting a relationship with a girl who would cheat. (Keep in mind he’s supposedly omega smart) And why would Johnny laugh at it in his wedding isn’t he a “hero”, like enabling dumb plots with characters that wouldn’t do them is why comic book writers are trash these days
The girl didn't really cheat. The one night stand happened right before she got into a relationship with Doom. Also don't judge the entire stories just based on one bad writer. The Fanastic Four do get a better writer after this.
@@huntertezzthey were still enemies when it happened, and Doom trusted her enough to think she wouldn’t try getting close to them (all FF) yet it happened the night before he trusted her with such an important task (the marriage wasn’t about love but he wanted her to hold more authority over Latveria Due to him giving her trust)
Technically she didn't really cheat on Doom. The one night stand happened right before she was in a relationship with him. But it was so damn stupid that she kept that a secret right until the wedding.
@@bloodoftheunicorns2621the very night before the engagement, she literally received the message that very morning XD. Is so f*cked up because you would think she would have enough respect towards Doom to sleep with one of his Enemies (still at the time, and was the first time they both shared a bed)
@@fersho450 Even worse she literally said previously she wouldn't want them in her sight because they are the enemies of her leader.....then fast forward to her sleeping with the enemy of her leader.
Johnny and Zora really put Doctor Doom back on his villain arc 💀
@@djashovel Valid point, one of my favourite types of storylines in fiction are the villain redemption arcs. But status quo must be status quo ig.
@@djashovel Also valid, status quo really hurts characters and their stories. Sometimes they need to just let a change stick, instead of retconning or reseting to status quo.
LITERALLY 😂
"Back on my bullshit, bitch I got to be"
@@djashovel There are a bunch of villains who do get redemption arcs.
But I guess Doom just being way too iconic is probably why Marvel hesitant to change him too much.
Doom: Congratulations Richards. You are no longer the one Doom despises most amongst you four.
tbf. reed and doom respect eachother somewhat because reed's one of a handful of people who has a intelligence on the same level as dr doom. even if his area of expertise is far more narrow.
@@romanplays1 yet he is considered the smartest man in the universe
@@quadratic7578tbh, yeah that is some bs. Doom definitely is smarter than Reed.
@@Shark_RockIn fairness the difference in breadth is that Doom is both second place in terms of magical knowledge and scientific knowledge in the world, while Reed is considered first place in science, and the current Sorcerer Supreme first place in magic.
@@romanplays1 No. Doom could care less about Reed. The only person I've ever seen Doom even show a little respect to is Dr. Strange. Doom is way smarter than Reed too.
I like when it was revealed, Namor is just laughing his ass off and that backhand by Reed as well
I just noticed that 😂that man Namor was dying. And tchalla just look like he wanna go home 🤣
I cant even blame the guy
I'm the kinda jerk that would be laughing too
He's laughing because he can relate.
Your biggest op taking Ls I can't blame him
LOL 😂
If I was Spider-Man I would be bringing this up EVERY single time Johnny tried to roast me
My best friend from this day on words shall have no peace!!!
@@RhyperiorRanger "man dint you have a tec company sometime ago? And somehow you STILL broke! LOL!" "Yeah thats cool... SO DO YOU REMEMBER THE TIME YOU MADE DOOM TRY TO KILL YOUR FAMILY BECAUSE YOU CANT STOP FUCKING RANDOM PEOPLE *L* *O* *L* " "...At least i have a wife." "You f-"
Black Cat is the biggest flex Spider-Man can tell to anyone
I love the art panel of Reed reaching behind the rest of the team to smack Johnny upside the head like " You F***ING IDIOT!!!!!"
Based AF!😂
That's a REALLY good visual gag!
I'd do the same
@@brianhunter5759 weren't they near each other?
@Holite I just rewatched the short and you're correct. I think from the panel where he smacks Johnny, Ben and Sue's face panels are wedged between them making it seem like they're standing between them when they aren't
Namor was on that Black Air Force energy. He heard that Dr Doom just got cheated on and he dies of laughter
He cucks reed and realised that reed and doom have that in common
This is too accurate😂
Bro is reliving his moments with Susan Storm and enjoys it
Dr Doom: just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in
😂
That has new contexts.
By pulling it out😅
Silvio Dante rides again 😂
"They pulled me back in God damnit!"
Don't forget that Human Torch was practically binded to Kalia, who was his partner. So, not only did he cheat, but she also suffered from it (literally since Doom used a weapon on Torch for Cosmic mutation) until Johnny lost her by removing the connection.
Not my favorite chris
God damn
It's crazy how Doom was on the verge of ending his rivalry with Reed and the Fantastic but Johnny couldn't keep it in his pants and literally put Doctor Doom back on his villain arc.🤣💀
Nah fr but as they say it takes person to make one mistakes that then ruins everything!
Doom put himself back on.
@@wolfgang6442 two persons.
There were two persons in that affair.
Let's be real, he was never going to stop being their enemy. The writers just wanted to make a different type of story.
It doesnt make sense for Doom to care tho....he would be insulted..but just roast Johnny in his normal commanding way and assert dominance over Victorious in a way that makes her want to fully submit
The most unbelievable part of this is not that Doom would make Reed his best man, it’s that Doom didn’t know about the hookup….
I think it was due to him trusting a lot Victorius , maybe like never interfering in her private life (using cameras and spies and such) to the point of almost making her his queen for the safety of Latveria
Doom is a very interesting character to dissect he has so many layers and is usually one of the biggest power players in comics
@@djashovel Nah, he should've sent the girl.
Thank you of puting nujabes music your video hes one of my favorites
Personally, I'm with Scott Lang regarding Doom's supposed complexity.
@@lambert801 To be fair she didn't really cheat on Doom.
But she shouldn't have waited until the wedding to tell him.
@@huntertezzcan you clarify? All I know is from this video? If Doom asked Zora to marry him, weren't they dating? Therefore she did cheat on Doom with Johnny?
T'Challa wasn't ready 😂
T challah was getting Vietnam flashbacks
Neurons stopped firing for a good second.
Quick fact: T’Challa came close to sleeping with Susan Storm, after her and Reed seperated.
@@Dragonflyjones67 at least he waited
@@Dragonflyjones67quick fact storm left tchalla and fucked Wolverine instead
Bro was really trying to be better and then Johnny decided to put his dingling where it don’t belong
If it didn't belong there what's it doing there
@@SykeeNotI wonder too
@@SykeeNot nothing good, that's for sure
Does the Human Torch refer to his dingaling as a "hot sausage"? 🤔
@@soulblightx9847 convenience store hot dogs theyre always warm❤️🔥💯
I love how Sue's just rolling her eyes like she's unsurprised lol
I can only imagine the absolute hell sky’s gonna put him through for that one
I think this was 3 years ago
I think he made Johnny become a supernova permanently so he wouldn't be able to touch anything and Reed spent quite some time trying to fix him
@@MorphingGrid101Johnny deserved to get the Paul treatment. It should've been his girl who got with Paul, not MJ!
My understanding is she was especially upset because they have this mind link thing so she found out in real time.
Johnny did a Paul to Doom but unlike Peter Doom is actually petty
Doom going back on his villain arc had serious repercussions for Johnny, to the point he sent him into a depression as consequence.
Johnny should be thankful that Doom didn't have them all executed.😅
Reed becoming Victor's best man is f*cking hilarious
For 2 seconds i thought," you know thats a nice gesture." Then i remembered Doom has achieved god like power on multiple occasions and uses it try and cuck Reed.
@@arcanefury3666 No, in the comics it was litteraly a way for him to burry the hatchet. He was really ready to forgive him.
@@MrLednard yeah but come on, that sounds like a bit in a comedy.
Doom: I know we've had our differences but you and your family are invited to my wedding and you can be my best man. So are we good?
Reed: You've tried to kill me on a monthly basis for like 10 years.
Doom: Yeah but are we good?
Reed: You've brainwashed my wife and children
Doom: Yeah but are we good?
Reed: You cured my best friend then turned him back into a rockman just to spite me.
@@arcanefury3666 are you familiar with comics ?
@@MrLednard familiar enough. Dude im just saying its funny. Everything i said in that imaginary little conversation blurb is a thing Doom has done to Reed personally and thats just what i know. There's like 50-70 years of dictated pettiness and attempted murder. You gotta admit, the idea it was almost solved by a wedding is pretty comical
You know, maybe Doom using Johnny's heart as his Fireplace wasn't as morbid as I originally thought
Zora downgraded cheating on Doom like that. Its like a woman cheating on a rich man for a part timer that got a tik tok account
It's not exactly unheard of 😂
It actually happens a lot more than you know.
Her lost if she gets caught. Rich men can always get a new girl, while she has to compete against other attractive girls for a rich guy. 😂😂😂
That's just it. She didn't even cheat on him. She hooked up with Johnny before her and Doom were a thing.
@@batman369ablewould Doom just pop the question on her if they weren’t though? Why feel so guilty about it if it happened before they were together?
I’m only guessing here, but it feels like the story was just set up with Johnny sleeping with Doom’s fiancé as the punchline.
Namor - “Best surface world wedding I ever went too.”
My favorite part was when namor bursts out laughing and reed slaps Johnny in the back of the head😂
I feel bad for the rest of the team they got to deal with doom’s antics again because of Johnny.
*because of Zora
@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449and Johnny
@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449like they said *johnny
@@jamangel who cheated?
@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449 Both of them did you not watch the video?
Johnny storm really fuck around and find out. Both literally and metaphorically😅
Not my favorite chris 😂😂
And thats what caused fortnite Dr Doom to kill the Fantastic 4 in the ways he did
doom loading shotgun while the other FF's try to stop him.
"I just wants to talk to him. I just wants to talk to him. I just want to talk to him"
@@kylepeters8690 🤣 I can't stop imagining it
Family Guy lol
Dr doom- Nothing can make me go back to my old ways.
Johnny's balls: Hold my beer
Meanwhile Namor being Himself as always
😆😆😆😆😆
"I'm a married woman with two kids Namor" got me dying 😂😂
I'm convinced Namor jus doesn't give af and he can already relate for he and sue storm have that history
Namor: I don’t do this surface dweller drama shit, Sue. Want to see my bed? It’s shaped like a seashell.
Namor to Reed: "Ok dude, your wife is making this HELLACIOUS. What will it take to get her to sleep with me?"
I don’t know much about the FF, but I know that that kind of reprehensible behavior is WILDLY out of character for The Human Torch. That’s character assassination masquerading as “character flaw.” That’s disgusting and the writer should be ashamed.
Thing is he has been like that for some time now (wonder what they are thinking) and it isn’t just this writer who made him like this sadly…
@@fersho450 It reminds me of what’s been going on with Professor X for years, decades, even: a concerted, coordinated effort to assassinate his character by essentially rewriting history, and no single writer questioning why his historically righteous character has been treated as a moral monster for years on end.
@@mr.x6313 Johnny Storm has always been like this. His great character arc with the Inhumans was to fix his womanizing ways, but no. Not out of character for him if you read Fantastic Four comics. But this is an old trait of the character. Slept with The Thing's ex wife decades back just to spite him. There is a reason a lot of people dislike Johnny Storm, but he did get better for a while.
@@mr.x6313 Prof X has always been a little shady. He recruited scared teenagers into a paramilitary force to fight for his dream. He's kind of like Erwin from Attack on Titan. Great character and leader but with some darkness inside.
The writer is Dan Slott. Character Assassination is his favorite past-time
Meanwhile, Namor being the prick he is cackling his ass off
Probably at seeing Reed smack Johnny upside his head
Manor lives for messy, don't forget this man married Emma Frost.
T'Challa's face of disbelief and Namor's laughter is the best thing about that comic 🤣🤣🤣
Man stop giving these comics to these incompetent writers they’ll just make everything into a cheating affair drama when nobody wanted it
This should have been the case years ago look how they do xmen
Comics are soap operas though, always have been.
Dr Doom: *Plays Fancy Clown*
Everyone at the wedding:😮😮😮
Namor:🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would laugh too
Me too😂
Doc Doom got back the human Torch big time. Lol. Doc Doom always gets the last laugh!
Johnny also broke the bro code by dating Peter Parker's ex cindy moon
Kinda, the bro code has different standards for aesthetically pleasing people. In a clique of multiple handsome dudes, chix are gon get passed around & you'll become Eskimo Cousins w/friends & enemies & Frenemies. Cuz when a hot chick is goin agro after u, it's Nigh-Impossible to not smash. Yea, it's a jerk move, but can & should be forgiven. Unless, it's a woman that they LOVE & she LOVED him, but if she Loved u too & there's prior history there, like before they met, then well...... you get it. Humans are complicated & even more so when it's beautiful (on the outside) humans. Cuz on the inside, we are ALL SH!T & deserve to Die & Burn. Which is why We DO! Best of Luck, you Ugly Young Person!
Eh Peter has on more than one occasion completely killed Johnny's dates by being just as much of a dick
Eeeeh peter dates like half of new York at this point
Isn't Cindy Moon a hump machine anyway?
She can do SO much better
The writers from Spider-Man must of gotten their hands on Fantastic 4, try to brainstorm a way to create plot and really go for NTR.
That's got to be some of the dumbest writing I've ever heard.
@djashovel i mean, there are quite a lot of mangas with horrible character development. You can choose to dislike comics, but comics and mangas are literally the same thing. The only difference is that manga is Japanese
@djashovel I don't think the situation is as manga vs. comic writers. The situation is that comics tend to reuse the same characters because it brings them profit and nostalgia and is a secure venue of cash, while manga is more of a hit or miss based on the popularity that each volume brings to the company, that's why there are so many stories being heard or published that doesn't past volume 1 or 3 because is not selling. A big example is Naruto manga creator. After finishing Naruto, he created a samurai 8, which didn't sell enough, and the manga was axe. That's only a known manga creator, unlike the ones that struggle to either be published or retain a consistent audience for their series to remain on float. If you get the chance, read east, into the night, or spider-man fake red. One ends in a somewhat neatly ending, and the other one ends sbruptly
@@djashovel u less it’s an isekai lol but we can ignore those
Nah this was funny asl lol
@@djashovel
I'm sorry but I disagree
I think manga writing has a lot of issues too.
Manga is cool, dont get me wrong, but, saying it doesnt have it's fair share of issues is kinda wild
Doom and the Fantastic Four have the most effed up relationship. From Doom being Valeria's godfather to leaving Doom in hell, they have run the entire gauntlet of possibilities of how they interact with each other
Peter is just completely unintentional rizz and the fact that he's also spiderman - so theres usually the matter of spiderman and black cat , and peter and MJ .
Literally has all the ladies staring at his cake.
The spider bite gave him the Chad Physique that comes with rizz aura
@@zealthethornydragonhe still had a little bit of Aura before he got the bite it was just completely unleashed once he got the bite, Uncle Ben was a rizz God
Peter/spiderman have rizz to the point even males wanna date him
Johnny has a list of exes that make Peter look like a celibate priest
Why is cheating so common in modern superhero stories? Do the writers have an ntr fetish or something?
yes
Ah yes the comic where I lost all my respect for Johnny
The best part imo about this was Namor lmao his ass off when it happened which is bloody ironic when Namor himself constantly tries to get with Susan
Overall Johnny can suffer All Hail Doom
That's probably why he laughed- Johnny succeeded in what Namor couldn't do.
laughing my ass off his ass off?
@@MTRBR-mp7wj he was lmao his ass off…
Yeah that does sound weird
Ah, I lost respect for him years ago when he slept with Ben Grimm's ex wife. You know the one that left him when he became The Thing and caused irreparable damage to that man's self esteem that he's never gotten over? That comic came out in the 90s, I read it in the 2000s. It's been fuck Johny Sprinkler ever since. To be honest the amount of times The Thing gets shafted by the rest of the "Family" is why I could never get into the Fantastic Four.
@@MTRBR-mp7wj Nobody has any ass anymore.
This storyline sounds so much like fanfiction, its wild.
Peter has a rough man, because the women in his life either die or leave him..
And then when you think things are going great for him, something worse happens
Marvel just recently released a new possible love interest for Spiderman: The Spectacular Spider-Lass 😁
Since Marvel is now trying to make MJ and Paul into a thing and since Black Cat is dating more girls now 😑
@@taraungoogle8482 great more love intresst marvel can fuck up for peter or later can self insert themselves taking away to make spider boy suffer in there sick sadistic Pleasure
@@fenrir4446 What's crazy is she's a red head like MJ, flirty like Black Cat and a Spider themed hero like Silk
Also, her official name is "Webhead", not Spiderlass
And Peter went on a date with web head's alter ego(without either knowing) and they said that they're both boring but as heroes, Webhead is a fan of Spider-Man and they get along very well
I swear Dr.Doom was like they keep fuc'n with me they gon fuc around and find out what war for eternity feels like ! 🙏🏾🤣
Every other doctor doom story be like:
Doom is willing to make amends with the FF and stop being a villain. Then, Human torch/Reed richards/Ben grimm do something to screw it up. Doom swears revenge, rinse repeat ad nausum
What? This almost never happens
Ummmm no. What are you talking about?
The 2 above me are coping
@@PoorCodeine then name the incidents
Doom reached into his villain arc bag and pulled out the "Find out cannon"
Doom is gonna be the least of Johnny's problems when his wife finds out
Who's his wife
Ro I didn't even know Johnny was already married which this jus makes it all the more embarrassing
@@wolfgang6442and she knew instantly because they both were connected through an object that maked them share feelings or something like that, and after all this, she went and destroyed the object and refused to ever see him again
@@fersho450 Deserved.
Namor's reaction is SAVAGE hahahahahaha
The things face when they find out what Johnny did is just the whole team reaction like really
Well Johnny literally slept with his ex so he has experience
So Johnny just ruined the chance to make peace all together?Even worse,he did it while married?!
I blame Marvel,but WTF JOHNNY??!!!
The panel of Namor laughing is gold.
Doom then proceeds to set Johnny’s temperature to max, permanently. If you can’t control where your hot stuff goes, you’re gonna learn today 😂😂
Dan: Johnny Storm has the worst fuckboy problems.
Starfox: Allow me to introduce myself.
Meanwhile Logan watching all his exes dumping him or getting killed 😂
Starfox needs to go back in that Eternals cage, and that cage needs to be thrown into Uranus.
@malindabandara3788 starfox makes Logansport problems look like a highschool drama
@alexdurain3753 his great uncle?
To be fair, the whole Skye/Johnny relationship came out of nowhere and she literally forced him to marry her per the customs of her planet.
It's like The Joker said: All it takes is one. Night. Stand. 😈
Bruh Joker did NOT say this shit 🙏😭
@@Goobergurl He never said that
"I cheated on you with one of your greatest enemies"
Typical woman
And the very same morning after the deed she got the proposal lol
@@fersho450 lol yep, and she was more than happy to accept it with open arms
And the female version is She-hulk. She’s jumped in more beds than him and Tony combined
@@djashovelHow? If she's not in a relationship, there's no harm. It's becoming more and more accepted by society.
@@djashovel
You say that as if you wouldn't bang She-Hulk if you were single
@@djashovel Morals are often mostly 90% subjective so it depends. But most people in 1st world countries agree that if it doesnt hurt anyone involved then its fine. Morality is human made idea. It didnt exist before we did. Its not eternal and it always changes over time. But there are certain points where it tends to stay the same over time due to common ground. For example nobody in a civil modern society is going to sit here and say "well merrder is good now I guess" unless you're hyper religous or an extremely off the rails person.
@@djashovelGonna need to see some research on that. Not by Prager U or like fox or oann. Some real boring science paper with a ton of big words with some famous people in it, at least 1
@@zehkiel8018 It aint accepted by half the country so idk what you're talking about. It's accepted by democrats' idea of society but its not accept by the typical republican idea of society. What do you think the Manosphere is? A reaction to hardcore feminists that say sleeping around is great. Yea theres plenty of guys that don't think its great. We're on a path to 2030 where America will have the largest population of single, childless, unmarried people in existence. I don't think the hook up culture ended up having great results mate
He said “oh really huh?oh well back to plotting. “
Suddenly i dont feel empathy for the human torch anymore
Black panther's face in this is still the funniest thing to me.
I don't know why it's just makes me lose my shit
The Fact Johnny began laughing about it made it even more messed up. If I was the rest of the fantastic 4 I would have just stepped back and said. You know what Dr.Doom we didn't know he did that you can have him, we still cool right.
I think that panel was namor
This is the most logical approach you could any one could have but certainly that might not cool him down though and it's Namor who is laughing.
at this point he more than deserves it
Then US comics makes daily soap opera characters look wholesome and faithful.
Dude literally dated the queen of attilan and her sister
Johnny Storm being called the biggest fuck boi in Marvel comics is Hawkeye erasure.
Johnny really fucked around enough to find out 🤦🏻♂️
From Mr fantastic immediately slapping Johnny to that dude laughing at the top right, that page is freaking hilarious
Victorious bragged with Scarlet Witch that she was Doom's fiance while he dumped Wanda bad... Like "Jealous? You should" just for this to happen
Wanda should say "Yet you opened your legs to a womanizer & screwed up the FFs chances of being free from having to deal with Doom all the time."
@@Catsclaw-ru6zw Well that was before when they were just engaged way before the wedding...
Love how the thing just palms his forehead like "gosh, this boy"😂😂
"Johnny Storm is notably the biggest fuckboi in Marvel Comics"
* ahem * I do believe Hercules would like to have a word with you, sir. 😂
Also, Heracles is bad at defense from the testimonies against Zeus from his enemies.
Zeus was like 🤦♂️
Namor said couldn’t be me 😂😂😂
Did Johnny know that Zora was seeing Doom? Did he pressure her in any way or was Zora into it?
I don't blame Victor for being pissed at Johnny but Zora really sucks with her timing.
Maybe she should've been kept it to herself (unless she was magically compelled to do otherwise)
He was pressuring Zora into ditching Doom the night before the wedding and trying to make her dump him, even though Johnny ALREADY HAD A FIANCÉ OF HIS OWN
What does Doom do to Zora?
@@bloodoftheunicorns2621 Aside from calling off the wedding, he said he "didn't want to see her face anymore". Granted, this was in a literal sense as she is still his lackey but now she wears a mask at all times, so he doesn't have to see her face.
When he did it? No. As far as I can remember, they weren't even seeing each other, Doom just sprung this proposal on her with 0 pretense.
Doom on his 3rd strike Storm damn!😂
Lol come on, iron man might have settled down with pepper but he also spent the majority of his adult life being a bigger playboy than anyone on the planet.
She-Hulk to Tony: You gotta bump those numbers up, them's rookie numbers.
Legit She-Hulk has slept around so much in the comics that Zeus may be the only one with a higher count.
@@dragonbornwerewolf true but doesn't that just make her a slut?
@dragonbornwerewolf actually her numbers are not quite as high as Tony and Johnny but she is close but fun fact: she hasn't slept with as many of her dates as people think
Huh, neat. Always liked She-Hulk, nice to know she isn't as bad with that as I had originally knew.
Tony never settled down with Pepper in the comics
He is the OG F-Boi in Marvel Comics! 😂😂😂
Dr. Doom: Let's call it truce
Zora: I slept with Johnny
Dr. Doom: F it!!! I want smoke!!!!!
Johhny honestly deserves to be trapped in annihilus dimension again for a decade
Comic book stories are trash like that… why would it make sense for dr doom to put so much effort on starting a relationship with a girl who would cheat. (Keep in mind he’s supposedly omega smart)
And why would Johnny laugh at it in his wedding isn’t he a “hero”, like enabling dumb plots with characters that wouldn’t do them is why comic book writers are trash these days
The girl didn't really cheat. The one night stand happened right before she got into a relationship with Doom.
Also don't judge the entire stories just based on one bad writer. The Fanastic Four do get a better writer after this.
A story isn't trash just because you disagree with the direction the story took
@@huntertezzthey were still enemies when it happened, and Doom trusted her enough to think she wouldn’t try getting close to them (all FF) yet it happened the night before he trusted her with such an important task (the marriage wasn’t about love but he wanted her to hold more authority over Latveria Due to him giving her trust)
Nurse: you’re hot
Johnny: why thank you, so are you
Spider-Man hearing about the situation after it happened: Johnny what the f***
Nah he went and consoled doom 😂
@@joesheppard5960 he would
@@hypersonic1357 what decent person wouldn't tbh, the man was literally giving up being a villain
Not Johnny's fault, Zora's the common denominator, out here being a superthot
Fair, but Johnny was still married at the time and he cheated on his wife
I love the human torch but I can truly say WHAT THE FUCK JONNY!! And you think I’m going to let the woman of the hook no it’s just as much her fault!
Technically she didn't really cheat on Doom. The one night stand happened right before she was in a relationship with him.
But it was so damn stupid that she kept that a secret right until the wedding.
@@huntertezz yeh that’s what I’m saying why you saying it in the altar
@@huntertezz Does it happen before they are dating or before their engagement?
@@bloodoftheunicorns2621the very night before the engagement, she literally received the message that very morning XD. Is so f*cked up because you would think she would have enough respect towards Doom to sleep with one of his Enemies (still at the time, and was the first time they both shared a bed)
@@fersho450 Even worse she literally said previously she wouldn't want them in her sight because they are the enemies of her leader.....then fast forward to her sleeping with the enemy of her leader.
Dr Doom: I showed them mercy, i showed them compassiom and look were it got me.
Doom is gonna be even more of a menace.
Man's dipped his wick in every candle 😂
Never thought I’d hear it described like that
Johnny went full Archer.
It’s namor laughing in the back for me 😂😂😂😂😂
The more I learn about the human torch the more I start to really dislike him
I like that his first big girlfriend ended having a kid with quicksilver
It’s not nice of Johnny to do that but there’s a silver lining in that Dr. Doom didn’t marry someone so untrustworthy
Dr. Doom getting revenge on the four after that incident is Just-Ti-Fied!
Re-villain origin story. 😱
“Back to world domination I guess”- doctor doom
Doctor Doom, a near Avenger’s level threat, was about to retire and maybe even become a hero, but Johnny Fucking Storm ruined that.
I think Dr.Doom was more pissed off that couldn’t return the cake afterwards
Well, thanks a lot Chris Evans..😠...now we have to deal with Doom.
Bro really activated this man's villain arc. Jesus 😂😂😂
Bout to turn me back to the old me
Namor laughing at the news was just overkill. Dude, you could have just chuckled, you didn't have to LOL.
The two Storm siblings are just cheaters..first Sue then Jonny..... didn't Sue give it to T'Challa also ?
@@cutiepie6796 lol.😂😂😂🧐
Dr.Doom: so that's why she smelled like Ash