Nigel, as you ticked off the 1:32 scale WWII USN Trumpeter kits, one included in your list was actually an Infinity Models product...the SB2C Helldiver. That kit took me MONTHS to construct, what with all the kit add-ons that Infinity marketed with the kit. Instructions on some were not clear and had to be noodled through to get them right, but in the end made up to be quite an impressive kit. Otherwise, all the other aircraft types you mentioned were indeed Trumpeter issues. I do have a shelf with all of them displayed. The Devastator will be a welcome addition from an historical perspective. I'm in the midst of constructing the major components awaiting the aftermarket folks to catch up, especially Quinta for the cockpit. Thanks for all you do!
I agree. The second scheme is definitely not Midway era. If you look at John Ford's film, "Torpedo Squadron Eight" you get a good but brief view of their Devastators en route to the battle before June 4. Ford was on Midway at the time of the battle, but he happened to have a film crew stationed aboard Hornet as she traveled to Point Luck to ambush Nagumo. The color is somewhat faded but you clearly can see the red/white rudders and the red dot in the national insignia were basically gone, but in one shot you can still see it on a wing underside. The film is very brief, but you can see all the Torpedo Eight crews In Memoriam, including Waldron, the squadron commander, and George Gay, the sole survivor of Torpedo Eight. Good reference for this kit, albeit brief. RUclips has several versions, one seems remastered.
Just as s note...the color markings you like is actually from the battle of Coral Sea. To make it Midway you will need to overpaint the red and white tail making sure it slightly shows through. dsmeb
I know I am getting this kit on Sunday, birthday present, been waiting for this as long as the rest of us and thought it would never see the light of day. Already ordered Gold Medal decal set that includes Midway planes, Vt-3, VT-6 and VT-8. Also ordered Legend productions new Pilot and gunner combo set for pacific aircraft. Looks like it was designed more for the Dauntless but I am sure I can make it work in the TBD. I will be following along when you build this. Thanks Nigel for the review.
Dear Nigel, I came by news about this kit and nearly bought it several times! I liked your review (as always) and may yet but this at some point in the future! Regards, Z
Hi Nigel fantastic review great looking model I’m just finishing Trumpeter ME109G2 and what a great kit this has been to build,i used no after market,all Trumpeter,do you remember years ago all the big wigs in modelling used to run Trumpeter kits down something all full,again brilliant review all the best mate.
Thx for the review - I think the Douglas engineers did a great job at designing & manufacturing a dedicated torpedo bomber in the Mid-1930s when Bi-Planes were still being used by many airforces...If only the torpedos it was tasked with carrying actually performed in battle it would have been an effective aircraft for the US NAVY...
Ahoy Sir Nigel Superb Inbox Review Happy You Recieved yours Had No Idea This kit Was Ancient I amagine There were Set Backs due to Information and Enginering To Complete This Kit. By now Every After Market Company Has Phot Etch and Resin Parts By Now A Beautiful Kit It Is Great video again Buddy Model On Frankie
Also a few added pointers. The Trumpeter instructions call out the prop to be silver with black rearward faces. That might have been correct for the pre-war scheme, but the Torpedo Squadron Eight video shows them to be black in the In Memoriam section. Also the tip striping is another issue. It's hard to see but in Waldron's and Gray's Memoriam, it may be that the blue portion of the striping was painted over black. Film quality makes it hard to determine. Or it may have varied aircraft to aircraft. It is probable that the crews were filmed in front of the same aircraft. Also, in the video, the torpedo plainly has a dark metallic body with a light gray warhead. Last pointer: be extra extra careful snipping the push rods from their surrounding sprue support. They are EXTREMELY thin and as I snipped, three on the opposite side from where I was cutting wound up breaking off and staying with the sprue. Eventually glued them back on but still....
Nigel, regarding the 2 opening doors that reveal the window under the forward fuselage....it can't be for torpedo aiming. That is done by the pilot, looking directly forward through his telescopic sight at the targeted ship, not down at the water below. I think the underside window must be for aiming from above at a higher altitude when doing level bombing, which could also be done by the Devastator, so I believe those 2 doors would only be opened during a level bombing run. I might be wrong though, so some further research may be advised to make sure about it.
Now that looks like a really nice kit Nigel. The original Battle of Midway film from the 1970's is one of my favourite films. The recent remake was pretty good too. Wasn't it the torpedo Sqn of Devastators that attacked the Japanese Carrier Fleet without fighter cover? Most or all of the Sqn got shot down I think. I have the Robert Ballard book from when he went looking for the Midway wrecks. Very interesting reading.
Exactly correct Andrew. Some say it's the worst plane ever made, because it was so poor at Midway. But... they went in with torpedoes that didn't work and no fighter cover.
Early prewar interiors were left in natural metal, not zinc chromate. There are a lot of good interior photos of prewar aircraft in David Doyle’s book, all showing nm interior. Frankie Day makes a lot of mistakes in what he says.
Top notch review as always nige. Looks a lovely kit 👍Ordered mine 2day along with a dauntless sbd 5 😊 just wondering does the devastator use the same wheels as the dauntless? They do look the same in pics?
So far I have, all in 1/32 scale.. Wildcat, Hellcat, Avenger, Corsair, Dauntless, Devastator, Helldiver, Kingfisher and Bearcat. We need a nice 1/32 Hellcat !!
@@NigelsModellingBench : It may have been announced in 2004, but looking at the kit parts, that looks to be new moldings; very intricate detailing and using clever injector-pin techniques to disguise them! Doesn't look like a kit from 20 years ago, even though some were pretty good, this just looks to have a fidelity that looks 'current'.... 😉
And just to add, that I agree Nigel, with your points from the latest catch-up video..... I dislike this new RUclips naming convention! My channel name is 'stevesstuff'; no '@' symbols, and where the '1450' came from, I have NO idea!! Stupid RUclips.... I guess "if it ain't broke, break it!".... 😠
Just another comment. Rear gunner had 30 calibre single gun. At Midway VT-8 from Hornet all had twin 30s “burrowed “ from Dauntless bombing and scouting squadrons supplies.
looks a nice kit, lets hope it goes together alright. Must admit i do like folded wings on a model, but thats because they do not take up so much room. Will you wait from resin parts pe before you build
Nice review, Nige, thank you. Looks like a nice rendition of a (to my eyes) singularly unattractive aircraft. The finished kit should be quite impressive. The Avro Anson of the same era also had protruding wheels when the undercarriage was raised. I am led to believe that this was because retractable gear was a new thing and pilots used to fixed wheel setups could "forget" to lower it.
Nigel+ i have the color intermediate blue the color used on U.S Navy aircraft its a testor color i have it in the small bottles and in the spray can its model Master paints i manage to get some of there paints before they discontinued them but its a dam good match i have to get this kit Nigel this is the only kit in 1/32 scale of this subject i do have there other kits of the U.S . Navy planes in 1/32 scale as well i love there avenger kit in 1/32 scale have you done a revew on that kit
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I think the second color scheme is battle of the Coral Sea. They got rid of the red dots and red and white tail before Midway.
Nigel, as you ticked off the 1:32 scale WWII USN Trumpeter kits, one included in your list was actually an Infinity Models product...the SB2C Helldiver. That kit took me MONTHS to construct, what with all the kit add-ons that Infinity marketed with the kit. Instructions on some were not clear and had to be noodled through to get them right, but in the end made up to be quite an impressive kit. Otherwise, all the other aircraft types you mentioned were indeed Trumpeter issues. I do have a shelf with all of them displayed. The Devastator will be a welcome addition from an historical perspective. I'm in the midst of constructing the major components awaiting the aftermarket folks to catch up, especially Quinta for the cockpit. Thanks for all you do!
I agree. The second scheme is definitely not Midway era. If you look at John Ford's film, "Torpedo Squadron Eight" you get a good but brief view of their Devastators en route to the battle before June 4. Ford was on Midway at the time of the battle, but he happened to have a film crew stationed aboard Hornet as she traveled to Point Luck to ambush Nagumo. The color is somewhat faded but you clearly can see the red/white rudders and the red dot in the national insignia were basically gone, but in one shot you can still see it on a wing underside. The film is very brief, but you can see all the Torpedo Eight crews In Memoriam, including Waldron, the squadron commander, and George Gay, the sole survivor of Torpedo Eight. Good reference for this kit, albeit brief. RUclips has several versions, one seems remastered.
Hhi Nigel, I have been seeing ads for this kit and was wondering what it was like. Now I know! Thanks for sharing. Have a great day. Jeff
Thanks, you too Jeff!
Nigel, Really looking forward to this build, as I've had a life-long interest in the Battle of Midway.
Me too Tron. The original Midway is one of my favourites.
Too late. Opened mine already. I am leaning towards prewar paint scheme.
Just as s note...the color markings you like is actually from the battle of Coral Sea. To make it Midway you will need to overpaint the red and white tail making sure it slightly shows through. dsmeb
Thank you so much for this info Chris.. keep it coming!!
I know I am getting this kit on Sunday, birthday present, been waiting for this as long as the rest of us and thought it would never see the light of day. Already ordered Gold Medal decal set that includes Midway planes, Vt-3, VT-6 and VT-8. Also ordered Legend productions new Pilot and gunner combo set for pacific aircraft. Looks like it was designed more for the Dauntless but I am sure I can make it work in the TBD. I will be following along when you build this. Thanks Nigel for the review.
Dear Nigel,
I came by news about this kit and nearly bought it several times! I liked your review (as always) and may yet but this at some point in the future!
Regards,
Z
Go for it Zin.
It’s a big old bird and no mistake!
Z
Hi Nigel fantastic review great looking model I’m just finishing Trumpeter ME109G2 and what a great kit this has been to build,i used no after market,all Trumpeter,do you remember years ago all the big wigs in modelling used to run Trumpeter kits down something all full,again brilliant review all the best mate.
Thx for the review - I think the Douglas engineers did a great job at designing & manufacturing a dedicated torpedo bomber in the Mid-1930s when Bi-Planes were still being used by many airforces...If only the torpedos it was tasked with carrying actually performed in battle it would have been an effective aircraft for the US NAVY...
Ahoy Sir Nigel Superb Inbox Review Happy You Recieved yours Had No Idea This kit Was Ancient I amagine There were Set Backs due to Information and Enginering To Complete This Kit. By now Every After Market Company Has Phot Etch and Resin Parts By Now A Beautiful Kit It Is Great video again Buddy Model On Frankie
It's your fault that I got this Frankie!!
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I was in the Dayton museum and I’m pretty sure there was an army version of this plane
Great review Nigel definately getting this kit
The same with the red in the stars. They found that the red was confusing during combat causing friendly fire situations.
Lemon Yellow Empennage belonged to USS Lexington CV-2. Those markings look like Torpedo Squadron VT-2.
I remember the Monogram 1/48 kit of this aircraft. 😆 I like the pre-war colour scheme.
Also a few added pointers. The Trumpeter instructions call out the prop to be silver with black rearward faces. That might have been correct for the pre-war scheme, but the Torpedo Squadron Eight video shows them to be black in the In Memoriam section. Also the tip striping is another issue. It's hard to see but in Waldron's and Gray's Memoriam, it may be that the blue portion of the striping was painted over black. Film quality makes it hard to determine. Or it may have varied aircraft to aircraft. It is probable that the crews were filmed in front of the same aircraft. Also, in the video, the torpedo plainly has a dark metallic body with a light gray warhead. Last pointer: be extra extra careful snipping the push rods from their surrounding sprue support. They are EXTREMELY thin and as I snipped, three on the opposite side from where I was cutting wound up breaking off and staying with the sprue. Eventually glued them back on but still....
Great kit, very good details, waiting for that building. Greetings Nigel from Portugal😉👋
You and me both!
Nigel, regarding the 2 opening doors that reveal the window under the forward fuselage....it can't be for torpedo aiming. That is done by the pilot, looking directly forward through his telescopic sight at the targeted ship, not down at the water below. I think the underside window must be for aiming from above at a higher altitude when doing level bombing, which could also be done by the Devastator, so I believe those 2 doors would only be opened during a level bombing run. I might be wrong though, so some further research may be advised to make sure about it.
I recall that some early Devastator cockpits were silver
Now that looks like a really nice kit Nigel. The original Battle of Midway film from the 1970's is one of my favourite films. The recent remake was pretty good too. Wasn't it the torpedo Sqn of Devastators that attacked the Japanese Carrier Fleet without fighter cover? Most or all of the Sqn got shot down I think. I have the Robert Ballard book from when he went looking for the Midway wrecks. Very interesting reading.
Exactly correct Andrew. Some say it's the worst plane ever made, because it was so poor at Midway. But... they went in with torpedoes that didn't work and no fighter cover.
Great review. Looks like a good kit.
I love it
Get kit for super detailing... do love a trumpeter 32nd
Great Review young man!
Thank you kindly!
Early prewar interiors were left in natural metal, not zinc chromate. There are a lot of good interior photos of prewar aircraft in David Doyle’s book, all showing nm interior. Frankie Day makes a lot of mistakes in what he says.
Top notch review as always nige. Looks a lovely kit 👍Ordered mine 2day along with a dauntless sbd 5 😊 just wondering does the devastator use the same wheels as the dauntless? They do look the same in pics?
I dont know.. but I think the Dauntless wheels are smaller?
That does look good
Hi Nigel,Scale Modeling Channel has done a good tape up review of this kit.
Would be good to get all the planes on the list you mentioned.
So far I have, all in 1/32 scale.. Wildcat, Hellcat, Avenger, Corsair, Dauntless, Devastator, Helldiver, Kingfisher and Bearcat. We need a nice 1/32 Hellcat !!
Despite being an older kit, it actually looks very nice. I might have to get one down the road.
Not sure if the kit is old, but it certainly was announced back in 2004/5.
@@NigelsModellingBench : It may have been announced in 2004, but looking at the kit parts, that looks to be new moldings; very intricate detailing and using clever injector-pin techniques to disguise them! Doesn't look like a kit from 20 years ago, even though some were pretty good, this just looks to have a fidelity that looks 'current'.... 😉
And just to add, that I agree Nigel, with your points from the latest catch-up video..... I dislike this new RUclips naming convention! My channel name is 'stevesstuff'; no '@' symbols, and where the '1450' came from, I have NO idea!! Stupid RUclips.... I guess "if it ain't broke, break it!".... 😠
I dunno Steve?? The Avenger is this nice.
@@stevesstuff1450you can change it to something else if you want.
Just another comment. Rear gunner had 30 calibre single gun. At Midway VT-8 from Hornet all had twin 30s “burrowed “ from Dauntless bombing and scouting squadrons supplies.
love it
I'm waiting for the seaplane version...
looks a nice kit, lets hope it goes together alright. Must admit i do like folded wings on a model, but thats because they do not take up so much room. Will you wait from resin parts pe before you build
I will probably wait for some AM Wendy? It will probably go together well?
Nigel had hair when trumpeter first discussed it..
Only just lol.
Nice review, Nige, thank you. Looks like a nice rendition of a (to my eyes) singularly unattractive aircraft. The finished kit should be quite impressive. The Avro Anson of the same era also had protruding wheels when the undercarriage was raised. I am led to believe that this was because retractable gear was a new thing and pilots used to fixed wheel setups could "forget" to lower it.
Really??? OMG!!
The A-10 did as well😮😂
Nigel+ i have the color intermediate blue the color used on U.S Navy aircraft its a testor color i have it in the small bottles and in the spray can its model Master paints i manage to get some of there paints before they discontinued them but its a dam good match i have to get this kit Nigel this is the only kit in 1/32 scale of this subject i do have there other kits of the U.S . Navy planes in 1/32 scale as well i love there avenger kit in 1/32 scale have you done a revew on that kit
I have the Avenger but not reviewed it.
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Did the kit include laser cut masking for that huge canopy ?
Yes, not laser cut though, probably cut on a plotter?
Looks nice for a old new kit. Do you have the name of the shop you used please?
MS Pleuth.. but now Scale Model Shop in the UK has them
Found it for £ 72.99 (w/ free shipping) from 1001 Hobbies :-). May take longer than 5 days to be delivered but I personally don't care.
My computer will not allow me to look at that website.. it obviously thinks it's dodgy?
Nigel, your computer is probably right. After having a deeper look, it seems they have a bad rep. No miracles after all 😞....
....нужно дождатся афтермаркета который в течении полугода-года будет на рынке.....
probably sooner than that!!
.....классную модель trumpeter зделали!...
Sure is!!
I like that when you say "canopy," it sounds more like "can o' pee". I'm so immature. I have this kit and was interested to get your opinion on it.
i just said to my wife, im not buying anymore kits for a while, as i have a number in my stash, and then you do this . Your a very bad man lol
Hahaha
Just a comment for the algorithm
on the subject of names on youtube,my name is richard forbes but my comment comes up as @bromhead100. weird.