I still rock the 909 after all those years. Had a few since (the great M1 and the Epic) but always switched back after some time. Finds the fairway and feels just amazing. I play off 4, don‘t be ashamed to keep your old trusty. It‘s worth it.
The best Titleist I have had was the 905R 9.5 degrees, but I also really liked and kept while playing the 905R was the 983K 10.5 degrees. Just awesome drivers.
I’ve had a *lot* of Titleist drivers, including a 909. It was released in 2009 (hence the 09 in the number). It then went 910 in 2011, 913 in 2013, 915 in 2015 , 917 and 2017. My favourite of all my drivers was the 905T. It was awesome.
Oh come on, you know it's the 905R. Haha. I still use my 905 when I'm playing a tight course. It's not as long as my newer Ping but for whatever reason, I hit it straighter.
Still gaming the Titleist 905R 9.5° Stiff YS6+ Graphite Design shaft. Haven't found anything yet to match the dispersion it gives me, both left to right and front to back. So happy with it that I bought 2 more as spares and paid £35 each.
The 909 designation tells the year - 2009. It would be interesting to put the same shaft in both heads and see how the compare. With the 909 not having the removable tip connector that could get expensive.
For the 909, it looks like the ball is teed up to high for the club. The strike pattern seems to confirm that observation, based on the swing you deliver to the ball. Try lowering the tee height on the 909, without altering your swing patterns, and see if that doesn't improve the 909's performance in relation to the TSI3. Not just materials, but also the mass distribution differences in the two heads clearly affects the output, again based on your swing patterns.
Getting back into golf after 20 years away from it. Bought a 2nd hand 917D3 with a 50g shaft. I know any draws and fades are down to my ability - which is really annoying - I'd love it to be as simple as buy a different club and all of a sudden all the shots are straight!
Used titleist drivers for over 20 years, always good clubs but the latest are better as the variety of shafts available now gives you the edge of the older models.
Mark is correct when saying that the spin was changing because of the strike and not the shaft, but I tend to believe that a shaft can influence where someone strikes the ball on the face. I know that this goes against Mark's beliefs, but shaft deflection is a real thing.
Funny that this came out today…I found a 913 D3 at a shop today…I’m a lefty so even a bit more of a rare find. I hit it and well…yeah there hasn’t been that much change from the new stuff 😂
I’ve switched back to my 913 d3 from a cobra radspped. The cobra is a hooking machine. I hit my d3 both longer and straighter. The new club hype is all bs. U can look at Adam Scott’s driving distance numbers from when he had the 913. I think he picked up 10 yards this year lol.
This was a great video Mark. As always, I like your focus on self improvement through coaching and playing golf. Working to lower that handicap, one round at a time.
Is Shaft length the same in both? I think shafts were typically 45 inches in 09 and now 45.5-45.75 is common, which could be responsible for the added length.
I played with both. Both hold their own. The TSi3 is a ball speed monster with great feel and the standard classic pear shaped look. Pure class. Love these drivers!!! 🙌👍👍🔥🔥☝️☝️💯💯💪💪🙏
Last year I did a driver fitting and it came down to the Tsi3 and the Sim 2. I went with the Sim because it was giving me some more distance and lower spin (an issue with my swing at the time). However, the dispersion and feel for the Tsi3 was better at the time, but on the advice of the fitter I went Sim 2. Basically, 15 months later I went back and did another fitting and ended up with Tsi3. For me, not only did the dispersion and feel still win out, but the distance and spin numbers now outperformed the several drivers I tested. Great video as always!
Only hit a Titelist and a Ping Driver once at a Produce show, also a fellow golfer bought a Taylor Driver and I also tried it out...They are nice but I Game a Cobra F 9 and it still works and is in good shape so I'll spend my money on irons and ball...Thanks for the review...
TSI4 is the best driver I’ve owned Mark I’d love to see one of your deep dive stats-fests videos swapping the bottom weights out for heavier/lighter? I have to go heavier just for feel purposes (modern clubs feel too light) but I don’t know what that does for performance. Ball flight Seems to go higher and slightly further to my eye but that could be wishful thinking Cheers
Good to see a medieval battle axe can still do some damage. :) With golf being very expensive, especially for newer folks to the game, I’d be curious of your impression of some of the Maltby brand clubs from GolfWorks. I’ve been surprised with their R&D, performance, customization upon order, and 1/3 the price of OEMs. Not sure the availability across the ocean, but might make for a fun review!
I have three of their hybrids in my bad now (older KE4 Tour 19 and 22) and newer KE4 Tour FC in 25 degrees. All great clubs in my opinion. Money well spent.
The difference in Dynamic loft is shocking - except this is something I already know - and that is, 'older' shafts simply weren't as torque stiff and they would shut down / close the face at impact / make impact more variable. If you put that modern shaft in that older 909 D3 driver, it would be an awesome test - please do it!
Not with mark's swing.. Shafts make no difference to Mark's delivery, he has such a neutral delivery.. He's done so many shaft videos it's untrue. Bottom line, both clubs are good, the tsi is just more adaptable to Marks regular strike and face angle. A 910D3 with a bit of upright lie would be a fairer test.
@@reallytalltom1712 if shafts made no difference to Mark's swing, he would have been able to deliver similar dynamic loft - it wasn't even close - it was insanely different. Because the presented loft was so different, it wasn't even a useful comparison other than to highlight, someone as neutral as Mark, wasn't able to do what he usually can do because the shaft was wacked
@@wallstreetoneil He can deliver similar dynamic loft and has done so in many different videos. That wasn't the point of this video it was how much can he get out of both of these drivers and is there much of a difference over the last 15 years
@@eballey77 look at time-index 6:48 (20.5 Dynamic Loft for the TSi3 vs 14.6 fr the 909 D3) - that's 2-clubs difference in presented-loft while hitting. If you think that is testing the difference in Heads, then I don't know what to say - it's not - it is for sure showing the difference between the clubs - which in this case, as I've pointed out, is exposing the wild difference in the shaft dynamics coming into impact. Mark, who is a walking robotic expert at usually being able to replicate similar conditions in order to test two different clubs, is just unable to do it in this case because of the shaft differences.
@@reallytalltom1712 Can you post a link to a shaft video of Marks where he has tested an "aftermarket" £250+ shaft so I can see how they give no difference? Or are all the shaft vids he does just with the stock options provided by the manufacturer? Has he ever tested a Ventus model with Velocore to see their MOI claims?
I’d love to see you review some DTC irons, sub70, Takomo, Haywood, etc. Your brutal honesty would really shine in showing how much big brands just market better or if they’re really are differences between $600 sets to $1200+ irons sets
Still game my 905r! Some lead tape on the bottom heal. Also got a 917 but can't get on with it. Prefer the older 905 with adihla shaft. I'll give you that drive Mark!
What a classic driver 909 D3 voodoo shaft lamkin grip taking me back 20 years to the junior days. Yesss plsssss Mark. This video shows how good there product has been for such a long time. Some of the comments on here are a joke its a fun video just enjoy a classic Titleist driver! Good work Bruhhhh
Great video Mark, I had a 909 D3 back in the day and retired it due to the fade bias. As for reaching the green… the question you have to ask yourself is “What would Coach Lockey say?” 😂
Played the 909 3W; 5W and 19 & 24 hybrids for a number of years. Loved them. Replaced them with G410’s a couple of seasons ago. Moved to Adam’s Red hybrids for a spell after the head of the hybrid flew off playing Spey Valley during the 2012 Ryder Cup! 😂
Had 915F with an Elements Chrome 8f5t shaft.. I bought it used off some guy knowing nothing about it and it was amazing. Swung like a baseball bat. It was stolen out of my bag and I miss it dearly.
Wouldn't it be great if a manufacturer came out and said buy this driver.... it's new... it's shiny...it looks so much better than that old 1 in your bag I would go and buy it for the honesty 😁
I don't think they will go back to fixed necks but only because I think that going that way was a manufacturing price decision coated in Golf talk mumbo jumbo to start with. They can kinda adjust for the extra weight of the adjustable hozle in the design of the rest of the club so making one club for all biases is just a win win for them. The colors and designs are on a rotating schedule just trying to get your money into a new version but only having to manufacture one club is going to win their manufacturing cost-benefit analysis every time.
Wow thanks for doing this comparison!! I’ve been asking you do this comparison for ages 😆😅 really appreciate hearing your thoughts on this beast of a Driver.
Mark, compare two identical mid irons, one with regular size grip, one with jumbo grip. Then with two drivers. No back weighting, just grip differences. I've been curious about ball speed and flight changes.
Think 975D2 was their best, when you compare it to what we on the market at the time, after that Taylormade certainly caught up (R5/7 quad and thereafter) and other brands as well
Mark, I'd enjoy seeing you try this again, and maybe you've done this in the past. but how about we try it with golf balls that were current around the release of the 909? I'd be curious to see what if any difference is present matching all aspects of the two "eras" so to speak in terms of non-adjustable 400+cc titanium to presumably what's nearing the end of the adjustable carbon era likely into the carbon face era.
Mark - I have a time capsule Jewel for you to test. Try a Tour Edge Exotics CB2 at 16.5* VS any of the best new fairways. I think the result will be different than this 909 VS TSI3 comparison.
New now but wondering if I should have stayed old?!traded a Cobra F9 in and bought me a G425. Arccos says I am now 64% fairway instead of 45% so guess it's a good move, miss my F9 yellow beasty though! Cheers Mark another top vid.
Having been a custom fitter for major brands for over 8 years if anyone came for a fitting with a FITTED 910 likelihood is all we were going to do for an hour was just chat and then tell them their 910 Was as good as anything.
I thought we knew if you strike well, the difference with old to new is small (which you do), isn’t it the help for the average joe (MOI) that’s improved. I noticed a difference between 909 and 917 personally.
Mark has another video about MOI you should check out. Very interesting information and you can make a better understanding decision from there. These companies market things amazingly and it doesn’t help that many golf RUclipsrs love filming about the latest and greatest because the viewers love to watch it.
I’ve seen that video, was interesting. I believe fitting is key. So are we saying the ONLY real progress in driver tech is ability to fit to the individual?!
Sorry Mark can't give you that..... it wasn't on the green.......that's like saying if it didn't hit the post that would of been a goal......... Great content again. Could you try the callawy driver with a callaway razr fit? (My current driver?
Love these old versus new videos.....how about doing callaway xr irons (2015) vs new......I game the xr's so would love to see what you think....I also game the 913 D3 driver and also 3W & hybrid
Will ask a question, edging with club over 72 holes and shots gained which are generally measured in part of a shot over 18 holes, why do you downplay the equipment but trumpet the shots gained decisions?
On the 909 maybe a lower tee would help as it has a deeper face. Also comparing old clubs that have had their shafts whipping and flexing for 10+ years is going to be a factor. The carbon has to deteriorate over to time. Put a new shaft in the head and you might be surprised ?
carbon doesnt really detiorate. It goes from full performance to broken very quickly (in other words, it stays "good" until its not). We learnt a lot about carbon fatigue in the bike industry (where Im from) as a carbon bikes ability and predictability is much more important if youre sitting on it that swinging it. Carbon has an extremely good memory (it behaves the same over and over) compared to steel.
Golf always comes down to strike doesnt it....my thoughts are maybe a little strange but I feel there is alot of willy waving in golf and this is alot of the problem and also what you want from the game..i have friends who swap equipment every 2 minutes because they want the best because they believe it will transform there game or want to be seen as having the best clubs. I on the other hand have played golf on and off since I was 8 im now in my 40s but my drive was and still is to be the best ball striker so while I'm on the range zipping my 30yr old bladed tp19s down the middle and hitting 1 irons really very well the other 95 percent are smashing £400 drivers into the trees trying to gain an extra 2 yards 🤔!! My equipment often gets frowned upon!! My point!! Is the latest stuff better YES im sure it is by much??? Maybe not but its only going to make a sizeable difference to a good ball striker....because until you can master hitting it consistently out of the middle more often than not then the latest driver may well not be any better than a ten year old club....but lets buy it anyway 🤔 ive never understood this philosophy???
A black finish is terrible for wear on all full swing clubs shows every scratch compared to chrome or stainless which hides the raw metal since they are just metal.
This driver was a dog! Immediately went back to the 905R which can still hang with the current lot out of the middle. Less so off centre hits. The 910d3 still works. TSR3 is the first noticeable upgrade on the 910.
How many have bought the 7 generations of Titleist Drivers , for a total of more than $3,000, for at best 7-12 yards? The way they are advertised and normally reviewed, it should be 70 - 120 yards!
Forgive my ignorance, but I'm new to the channel just getting back to golf after being away for a few years. What are the white dots/stickers on the face of the clubs????
I still rock the 909 after all those years. Had a few since (the great M1 and the Epic) but always switched back after some time. Finds the fairway and feels just amazing.
I play off 4, don‘t be ashamed to keep your old trusty. It‘s worth it.
The best Titleist I have had was the 905R 9.5 degrees, but I also really liked and kept while playing the 905R was the 983K 10.5 degrees. Just awesome drivers.
Mads, I agree the 905R 9.5 was one of my favorite Titleist Drivers ever.
I’ve had a *lot* of Titleist drivers, including a 909. It was released in 2009 (hence the 09 in the number). It then went 910 in 2011, 913 in 2013, 915 in 2015 , 917 and 2017. My favourite of all my drivers was the 905T. It was awesome.
I thought odd number year meant iron release from titleist, I may be wrong tho
Oh come on, you know it's the 905R. Haha. I still use my 905 when I'm playing a tight course. It's not as long as my newer Ping but for whatever reason, I hit it straighter.
@@jason1471perhaps, but why would the irons have even numbers and the woods be odd numbers?
910 was caused 910 because they couldn't call it 911 as it should have been for obvious reasons.
The 905 series were and still are favorites of the older Titleist’s.
Still gaming the Titleist 905R 9.5°
Stiff YS6+ Graphite Design shaft.
Haven't found anything yet to match the dispersion it gives me, both left to right and front to back.
So happy with it that I bought 2 more as spares and paid £35 each.
What is dispersion
@@isaacpark5487 think of a circle going around the average of a number of shots. The smaller the circle (dispersion) the more consistent the club is.
@@codyellefson1342 amazing. Turns out I have horrible dispersion.
983E was my favorite driver I used to hit that on a string!
The 909 designation tells the year - 2009. It would be interesting to put the same shaft in both heads and see how the compare. With the 909 not having the removable tip connector that could get expensive.
Indeed, however it would hit shops in late 2008!
For the 909, it looks like the ball is teed up to high for the club. The strike pattern seems to confirm that observation, based on the swing you deliver to the ball.
Try lowering the tee height on the 909, without altering your swing patterns, and see if that doesn't improve the 909's performance in relation to the TSI3.
Not just materials, but also the mass distribution differences in the two heads clearly affects the output, again based on your swing patterns.
Looks plays important roll with me. I play a f9 and love the yellow. But I recall I loved the look of d915 and d913 when they came out.
Getting back into golf after 20 years away from it. Bought a 2nd hand 917D3 with a 50g shaft. I know any draws and fades are down to my ability - which is really annoying - I'd love it to be as simple as buy a different club and all of a sudden all the shots are straight!
Used titleist drivers for over 20 years, always good clubs but the latest are better as the variety of shafts available now gives you the edge of the older models.
New for me but these are always fun looks at equipment and how slowly things change over time
Mark is correct when saying that the spin was changing because of the strike and not the shaft, but I tend to believe that a shaft can influence where someone strikes the ball on the face. I know that this goes against Mark's beliefs, but shaft deflection is a real thing.
Funny that this came out today…I found a 913 D3 at a shop today…I’m a lefty so even a bit more of a rare find. I hit it and well…yeah there hasn’t been that much change from the new stuff 😂
I’ve switched back to my 913 d3 from a cobra radspped. The cobra is a hooking machine. I hit my d3 both longer and straighter. The new club hype is all bs. U can look at Adam Scott’s driving distance numbers from when he had the 913. I think he picked up 10 yards this year lol.
This was a great video Mark. As always, I like your focus on self improvement through coaching and playing golf.
Working to lower that handicap, one round at a time.
Lol. I'm still rocking my 909. Funny how I out drive my friend as well. For 13yrs old. It still works like a charm
Is Shaft length the same in both? I think shafts were typically 45 inches in 09 and now 45.5-45.75 is common, which could be responsible for the added length.
released October 2008.
Great video Mark, would love to see a compare between Ping G, G400 and G425 👍🏾
I played with both. Both hold their own. The TSi3 is a ball speed monster with great feel and the standard classic pear shaped look. Pure class. Love these drivers!!! 🙌👍👍🔥🔥☝️☝️💯💯💪💪🙏
Last year I did a driver fitting and it came down to the Tsi3 and the Sim 2. I went with the Sim because it was giving me some more distance and lower spin (an issue with my swing at the time). However, the dispersion and feel for the Tsi3 was better at the time, but on the advice of the fitter I went Sim 2. Basically, 15 months later I went back and did another fitting and ended up with Tsi3. For me, not only did the dispersion and feel still win out, but the distance and spin numbers now outperformed the several drivers I tested. Great video as always!
Only hit a Titelist and a Ping Driver once at a Produce show, also a fellow golfer bought a Taylor Driver and I also tried it out...They are nice but I Game a Cobra F 9 and it still works and is in good shape so I'll spend my money on irons and ball...Thanks for the review...
TSI4 is the best driver I’ve owned
Mark I’d love to see one of your deep dive stats-fests videos swapping the bottom weights out for heavier/lighter?
I have to go heavier just for feel purposes (modern clubs feel too light) but I don’t know what that does for performance. Ball flight Seems to go higher and slightly further to my eye but that could be wishful thinking
Cheers
Good to see a medieval battle axe can still do some damage. :)
With golf being very expensive, especially for newer folks to the game, I’d be curious of your impression of some of the Maltby brand clubs from GolfWorks. I’ve been surprised with their R&D, performance, customization upon order, and 1/3 the price of OEMs. Not sure the availability across the ocean, but might make for a fun review!
I have three of their hybrids in my bad now (older KE4 Tour 19 and 22) and newer KE4 Tour FC in 25 degrees. All great clubs in my opinion. Money well spent.
The best one i had was the 983K
The 983E from that generation was the closer equivalent to the '3' models like the D3 and TSI3. That club was a little golf ball basher.
The difference in Dynamic loft is shocking - except this is something I already know - and that is, 'older' shafts simply weren't as torque stiff and they would shut down / close the face at impact / make impact more variable. If you put that modern shaft in that older 909 D3 driver, it would be an awesome test - please do it!
Not with mark's swing.. Shafts make no difference to Mark's delivery, he has such a neutral delivery.. He's done so many shaft videos it's untrue. Bottom line, both clubs are good, the tsi is just more adaptable to Marks regular strike and face angle. A 910D3 with a bit of upright lie would be a fairer test.
@@reallytalltom1712 if shafts made no difference to Mark's swing, he would have been able to deliver similar dynamic loft - it wasn't even close - it was insanely different. Because the presented loft was so different, it wasn't even a useful comparison other than to highlight, someone as neutral as Mark, wasn't able to do what he usually can do because the shaft was wacked
@@wallstreetoneil He can deliver similar dynamic loft and has done so in many different videos. That wasn't the point of this video it was how much can he get out of both of these drivers and is there much of a difference over the last 15 years
@@eballey77 look at time-index 6:48 (20.5 Dynamic Loft for the TSi3 vs 14.6 fr the 909 D3) - that's 2-clubs difference in presented-loft while hitting. If you think that is testing the difference in Heads, then I don't know what to say - it's not - it is for sure showing the difference between the clubs - which in this case, as I've pointed out, is exposing the wild difference in the shaft dynamics coming into impact. Mark, who is a walking robotic expert at usually being able to replicate similar conditions in order to test two different clubs, is just unable to do it in this case because of the shaft differences.
@@reallytalltom1712 Can you post a link to a shaft video of Marks where he has tested an "aftermarket" £250+ shaft so I can see how they give no difference? Or are all the shaft vids he does just with the stock options provided by the manufacturer? Has he ever tested a Ventus model with Velocore to see their MOI claims?
What is the biggest improvement in golf clubs since 2009? Anything come close to the marketing?
I’d love to see you review some DTC irons, sub70, Takomo, Haywood, etc. Your brutal honesty would really shine in showing how much big brands just market better or if they’re really are differences between $600 sets to $1200+ irons sets
Yes Mark I used the old Starship model 9 degree.....
Loved watching this video.....i picked up a 909 D3 at a thrift store. I didn't pay £70 mind you....just $2 Canadian
Still gaming my 910D2. Just can't seem to find anything better, and therefore not worth the money for me to spend
Still game my 905r! Some lead tape on the bottom heal. Also got a 917 but can't get on with it. Prefer the older 905 with adihla shaft. I'll give you that drive Mark!
What a classic driver 909 D3 voodoo shaft lamkin grip taking me back 20 years to the junior days. Yesss plsssss Mark. This video shows how good there product has been for such a long time. Some of the comments on here are a joke its a fun video just enjoy a classic Titleist driver! Good work Bruhhhh
Great video Mark, I had a 909 D3 back in the day and retired it due to the fade bias. As for reaching the green… the question you have to ask yourself is “What would Coach Lockey say?” 😂
Played the 909 3W; 5W and 19 & 24 hybrids for a number of years. Loved them. Replaced them with G410’s a couple of seasons ago. Moved to Adam’s Red hybrids for a spell after the head of the hybrid flew off playing Spey Valley during the 2012 Ryder Cup! 😂
It would be interesting to see this over a few brands, maybe Ping i20 vs Ping 425.
Bought mine August 2008, 909 D3 8.5 stiff
Always love these old v new vids. Would love a Cobra F9 Vs LTDx
Recently ditched my Ping g425 woods, back to my 915f 3w and 585h. I think I saw JT with a 915f in his bag in 2022 as well. Titliest clubs are forever.
Had 915F with an Elements Chrome 8f5t shaft.. I bought it used off some guy knowing nothing about it and it was amazing. Swung like a baseball bat. It was stolen out of my bag and I miss it dearly.
Wouldn't it be great if a manufacturer came out and said buy this driver.... it's new... it's shiny...it looks so much better than that old 1 in your bag
I would go and buy it for the honesty 😁
I played a 975D for a while back in the day but now game TS3 which is a few years old.
I don't think they will go back to fixed necks but only because I think that going that way was a manufacturing price decision coated in Golf talk mumbo jumbo to start with. They can kinda adjust for the extra weight of the adjustable hozle in the design of the rest of the club so making one club for all biases is just a win win for them. The colors and designs are on a rotating schedule just trying to get your money into a new version but only having to manufacture one club is going to win their manufacturing cost-benefit analysis every time.
Following a very similar conversation in Steeno’s bar a while back, really happy to see this video. I’d love to see the G10’s numbers..
Only just switched out of a 909D3. Swing has changed over the years and the right side became a problem.
I have just bought the 915 for £134. absolutely love it
Wow thanks for doing this comparison!! I’ve been asking you do this comparison for ages 😆😅 really appreciate hearing your thoughts on this beast of a Driver.
Mark, compare two identical mid irons, one with regular size grip, one with jumbo grip. Then with two drivers. No back weighting, just grip differences. I've been curious about ball speed and flight changes.
Txg has a great video on this
I play the 917 D3, which is from 2017. So, the 909 is from ‘09.
Think 975D2 was their best, when you compare it to what we on the market at the time, after that Taylormade certainly caught up (R5/7 quad and thereafter) and other brands as well
I played 907 D2 for 10 years……. Lovely driver. Think date released is last two digits. So 909 was released 2009.
I have that driver with the Adila RIP shaft. It’s awesome! Haven’t found one I like more to replace it with yet, even though I look…
Your strike point can be from the shaft bowing. So say all you want about shafts, they matter how you deliver the club.
Mark, I'd enjoy seeing you try this again, and maybe you've done this in the past. but how about we try it with golf balls that were current around the release of the 909? I'd be curious to see what if any difference is present matching all aspects of the two "eras" so to speak in terms of non-adjustable 400+cc titanium to presumably what's nearing the end of the adjustable carbon era likely into the carbon face era.
I have demoed a few driver's in the last year or so and the tsi 3 for me sounds and looks great I also hit it quite well
I'll have to try the 909, I'd rather keep the ball out of the left rough...
I'll take predictability over distance any day.
Mark - I have a time capsule Jewel for you to test. Try a Tour Edge Exotics CB2 at 16.5* VS any of the best new fairways. I think the result will be different than this 909 VS TSI3 comparison.
Here for the thank you. Enjoying the content Mark. Keep it coming.
Need a Mizuno mp33 irons v New Blade video. Nothing will beat the 33s!
910D3 was maybe my favorite ever. Had 909, 910, 913, TS3, TSi3 so I'm a bit of a Titleist driver guy lol.
New now but wondering if I should have stayed old?!traded a Cobra F9 in and bought me a G425. Arccos says I am now 64% fairway instead of 45% so guess it's a good move, miss my F9 yellow beasty though! Cheers Mark another top vid.
Having been a custom fitter for major brands for over 8 years if anyone came for a fitting with a FITTED 910 likelihood is all we were going to do for an hour was just chat and then tell them their 910 Was as good as anything.
I thought we knew if you strike well, the difference with old to new is small (which you do), isn’t it the help for the average joe (MOI) that’s improved. I noticed a difference between 909 and 917 personally.
Mark has another video about MOI you should check out. Very interesting information and you can make a better understanding decision from there. These companies market things amazingly and it doesn’t help that many golf RUclipsrs love filming about the latest and greatest because the viewers love to watch it.
I’ve seen that video, was interesting. I believe fitting is key. So are we saying the ONLY real progress in driver tech is ability to fit to the individual?!
This is great! I love these old vs new and as I'm shopping a new driver could you do another one?
Calloway Razr Fit vs the new Stealth? Thanks Mark!
983k was my favourite
UK Launch was October 2008
Great vid as always, still loving my 910D3!
Would a new grip on the 909 change your numbers?
You should get shirts made with GET UP! On them ,, New for me, just because they are shinier 😁
910 D3 was the best until the TS came along, before then I’d say the 905R was the best. Just my opinion Marky!
Sorry Mark can't give you that..... it wasn't on the green.......that's like saying if it didn't hit the post that would of been a goal......... Great content again. Could you try the callawy driver with a callaway razr fit? (My current driver?
you're hitting the driver like a beast - better than ever.
Old or new for you?
Gotta say I have both. Bought the ts3 it was good, but then I picked up a mavrik. But I still sneak back to TM m2.
Love these old versus new videos.....how about doing callaway xr irons (2015) vs new......I game the xr's so would love to see what you think....I also game the 913 D3 driver and also 3W & hybrid
I have a 975D, 910D,915D and ts2 d2
Found a lovely MP 600 after you tried it on your Spanish trip - interested to see it vs the STZ 220!
Will ask a question, edging with club over 72 holes and shots gained which are generally measured in part of a shot over 18 holes, why do you downplay the equipment but trumpet the shots gained decisions?
New. And I guess edging has a different meaning in America vs the UK...
My 910 is still rocking, tried against tsi3 and only 3 yards.
09 Burner vs Stealth
Ping G15 to Ping G425 would be a fantastic comparison I think.
Can you do a proper one length iron set vs standard club length sets? Spin, launch angle etc?
2009
The 909 series launched in 2008 on the US
Pretty sure the 909 has a big forward cg point like the SLDR which is why you tend to hit it higher on the head.
On the 909 maybe a lower tee would help as it has a deeper face. Also comparing old clubs that have had their shafts whipping and flexing for 10+ years is going to be a factor. The carbon has to deteriorate
over to time. Put a new shaft in the head and you might be surprised ?
carbon doesnt really detiorate. It goes from full performance to broken very quickly (in other words, it stays "good" until its not). We learnt a lot about carbon fatigue in the bike industry (where Im from) as a carbon bikes ability and predictability is much more important if youre sitting on it that swinging it. Carbon has an extremely good memory (it behaves the same over and over) compared to steel.
Golf always comes down to strike doesnt it....my thoughts are maybe a little strange but I feel there is alot of willy waving in golf and this is alot of the problem and also what you want from the game..i have friends who swap equipment every 2 minutes because they want the best because they believe it will transform there game or want to be seen as having the best clubs. I on the other hand have played golf on and off since I was 8 im now in my 40s but my drive was and still is to be the best ball striker so while I'm on the range zipping my 30yr old bladed tp19s down the middle and hitting 1 irons really very well the other 95 percent are smashing £400 drivers into the trees trying to gain an extra 2 yards 🤔!! My equipment often gets frowned upon!! My point!! Is the latest stuff better YES im sure it is by much??? Maybe not but its only going to make a sizeable difference to a good ball striker....because until you can master hitting it consistently out of the middle more often than not then the latest driver may well not be any better than a ten year old club....but lets buy it anyway 🤔 ive never understood this philosophy???
Can you do a comparison between an older adjustable driver, something like an R11, and a modern fixed package set type driver?
A black finish is terrible for wear on all full swing clubs shows every scratch compared to chrome or stainless which hides the raw metal since they are just metal.
I wonder how the old tech works for irregular and inconsistent strikers (most golfers I know). Does the new offer more forgiveness?
This driver was a dog! Immediately went back to the 905R which can still hang with the current lot out of the middle. Less so off centre hits. The 910d3 still works. TSR3 is the first noticeable upgrade on the 910.
Wasn't the 909 released in 2009? For a while that was their naming scheme. Like 913, 915 and 917
The best one I had was the one that hit the fairway - whatever that was !
2008
I had a titleist 975j could hit bombs with it, best titleist driver ever.
Old clubs of your choosing, Mark vs coaches new clubs. 9 holes, no gimmies. Who will win?
How about using your course swing
I assume the xxio 2022 compare against the xxio 2009 will be forthcoming soon. Or the Cleveland 2022 to 2009?
Looks like the only difference really is the forgiveness. Hit tsi much more pure from a bigger sweet spot
The sweet spots are the same 👍 the MOI will be so small a difference a human won’t find it in 30 shots. 👍
How many have bought the 7 generations of Titleist Drivers , for a total of more than $3,000, for at best 7-12 yards? The way they are advertised and normally reviewed, it should be 70 - 120 yards!
Forgive my ignorance, but I'm new to the channel just getting back to golf after being away for a few years. What are the white dots/stickers on the face of the clubs????
Why not try the extra long shaft like you did a couple of years ago? Maybe you can reach 320 then?
I had the 909comp I would tee it low