Great IQ review Dustin. I have both Tamron lenses the 17-28 and the 28-75 not as much for the very best iQ but their both good lightweight flexible options for mobile events or when i don't have a lot of time to react to my environment but still care about having a good overall quality outcome. I sold my 24-70GM and 12-24G after having them for at least a year and replaced them with the Tamron's and i'm happy for the most part. Nothing is perfect right lol. Thanks again Dustin have a great day
That's such an overlooked quality these days. Having reasonably sized and lightweight options means (to me) that those lenses are more likely to actually get used on a regular basis.
Michael Mystro Pierce why you was not happy with 12-24 G ? Just for price/weight performance ? Or the lack of use of 12-16 mm range ? I will be curious to know your opinion. I plan to start real estate photography and video and I’m struggling between buying the Tamron 17-28 or Sony 12-24 (I already own the Tamron 28-75). Thank you
@@Tarkinx It wasn't that i wasn't happy with it just I didn't use it enough to justify keeping it. I do real estate from time to time and landscape for fun and the only other thing i shoot that wide is Groups for weddings but i really don't need it to be that wide. The widest i need is a 14mm even for real estate. It's a great lens if you use it a lot. I didn't but the 17-28 fits me a bit better and it's cheaper with about the same IQ is the 12-24G f4 plus I like the extra stop of light on the 17-28 being that it's a f2.8
Tarkinx 12-24 is too wide for RE. You will easily misrepresent the size of the property with anything less than 16mm. 16-35 Sony Zeiss f4 was what I used for two years. I’m now using the Tamron 17-28. The Tamron is producing better images than the Sony lens.
Hopefully they will release a 70-200 (or 75-2xx) as well. Seems like an easy recommendation for people wanting good value full frame zooms for Sony E-Mount.
I'm nearly 100% certain that this is their plan, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it start at 75mm. They've chosen zoom ratios that they feel like they can do really well, and so far it seems like a winning formula.
I have a suspicion that Sony is not allowing third party manufacturers with their focus algorithms to make standard focal length zooms. Would be a clever though lame way to artificially inflate the sales of their own G-Master bread and butter lenses. That said, my money is on something around a 75-180 from Tamron.
I'd expect either a 70-210 or 75-210 since those are more "old-fashioned" focal lengths (that's what the older Nikon and Canon lenses were), but probably an f/4. Wouldn't be surprised to see a 70-200 f/2.8 alongside it though since they do make both focal lengths for DSLRs.
I got my hands on the Sigma 14-24 F 2.8 for Sony yesterday and loved the lens, but it requires use either of a gel filter or a very expensive 150 filter holder.
@@barbaraolk749 Hi, I recevied my Sigma lens yesterday but was doing some tests and the corners are coming out not very sharp. I have the new Tamron 17-28mm and it's look quite a bit sharper than the Sigma. How are your corners? I tried f2.8, f4, f5.6... I'm wondering if I have a bad copy. Thanks!
Tamron really made the stack of primes! I got mine and I am looking forward to use it on my vacation. I wonder how Tamron would make their F2.8/F4 telephoto zoom. So far, Tamron made a good compromise with the weight over focal length, but it would be hard for telephoto zooms.
I just did a six lens comparison that cost me a lot of money and time (I did it more as fan service). Bringing in the GM would have been more of the same - and I have neither the time nor money to invest in it at the moment. I might try to do a three way comparison with the new Sigma 14-24 and the GM in the future.
Thanks for making this video, I know when I look for details in image quality I could always go to your channel. One more question, which zoom lens is good for both architecture and astro you recommend?
nice review, i just recently bought the Laowa 15mm and was on the fence to if I should wait for this one. I think i still made the right choice as i use my lens for indoor video work. Not sure if the vignetting is so apparent while shooting video but i think having straighter lines is probably more important
I went back and compared, and the G2 has slightly less coma. It also has a wider focal length, which can be useful for shooting astro. Not a huge difference.
Thanks again for another good review. Just received my copy. I also pre-ordered the new Sigma 14-24mm f2.8 e mount. I heard it may be shipping later in August. Hoping I get it before the 30 days is up on my Tamron so I can compare and decide which one to keep 😬
@@DustinAbbottTWI right... Might come down to portability vs image quality and obviously a couple of hundred dollars difference. Hope it comes out soon 😉
@@DustinAbbottTWI So I received my Sigma 14-24mm f2.8 for Sony yesterday. Was excited to put it against the Tamron 17-28 which I have until Thursday to send back if I don't like it. I'm not a professional tester but I went to the outside of my house and took pictures of the front wall that has texture. I had my A7III on a tripod. I'm a little disappointed by the results of the Sigma. The Tamron right now is looking quite a bit sharper than the Sigma on the corners. I tried a couple of focal lengths at f2.8, f4 and f5.6 and same thing on all. I wonder if I have a bad copy.. I tried the test a second time 30 minutes later and similar results. I'll try to test tomorrow on a different background to triple check : (
Tried a 3rd test this morning. Took to pictures of my beat up fence. I uploaded the files to Dropbox in case you want to check out - www.dropbox.com/sh/h4i9mjfgz2j4d4o/AAAvkoz_gssrIUCrMLEZ8PYMa?dl=0
Looks sharp, I mostly shoot JPEG so photos look fine being corrected in body, its light and small, pretty much a win win, strangley however watching the review of the 17-28 I want that Iiowa 15mm! That would be great for wide wedding dancefloor and venue shots with its low distortion (video) thanks for the image quality comparison
I watched the same thing and was so pleased not to own the Loawa. The zoom blows it out of the water for sharpness even with the Loawa stopped down. The only saving grace is the minimal distortion. That's not enough for me. The versatility alone far outweighs that.
That seems about reasonable to me...and probably has a bit less distortion at 18mm. The Batis might have a slight center contrast edge, but it wouldn't be by much.
Very nice comparison, but this comparison was done on a7r3 . Do we see any problem resolving 61mp with both the tamron lenses on a7r4? Thanks in advance
I honestly don't know the answer to that. The 28-75mm was the first in the series, and probably the most popular. It was pretty soon to get a G2 version of that lens, so I don't know if they plan to redo the whole lineup
Do you recommend this or the 20-40 in terms of sharpness/image quality only on a sony a7r4?im just concerned about the sharpness and cropping ability..
Thx Dustin! I will only use it for landscape and occasionally astrophoto. Also, most of my filters are in 77mm, that why I guess it is a better choice for me.
Very detailed review (as always)! However, I am stil struggling whether to puchase the Sony 16 - 35 f4 or the Tamron you've reviewed. I don't bother too much that the Sony does offer only f4. I will be mainly using either of the lenses for landscape photography where f 2.8 won't be necessary. (Though I love to shoot at night, I have a different prime lense for this pupose). On the other hand image stabilization, which the Sony offers isn't a killer criterium not choosing the Tamron......As a consequence, I'd love to get your expertise which lense you would prefer oder recommend. Many thanks for your feedback.
It isn't easy, for sure. The Tamron is the sharper lens of the two, but it isn't night and day. I do think the Tamron is better value, but the Sony has a few more features. I can't really make the decision for you; it's not an easy one at the best of times!
The best real estate setup on Sony (IMO) is buying a Canon EF mount Laowa 12mm F2.8 Zero D and the Laowa MSC. This gives you a 17mm shift lens for Sony which is fantastic for real estate. I own and use that combo myself, and I reviewed it here: bit.ly/LaowaMSCda
Hi, Nice review. Please, could you tell your opinion compare with tamron 17-35 di osd? I have Sigma Mc11 on my Sony camera and 17-35 looked good in your previous review. Used price for 17-35 around half of this.
Nice video, thank you! Have you noticed the phenomenon when during the AF-S with closed aperture there's momentarily white blinking on LCD? Probably the aperture actuation and sensor gain aren't synchronized as well as on Sony lenses...
Hi. Thanks for this. I'm looking for a WA lens to do panoramic. I have the 16 35 F4 but I think to change for this one, or the Laowa 15 mm. Wich one do you think is better? thks
Dustin, would you say the Sony Vario-Tessar T* FE 16-35mm f/4 is a better lens than the Tamron 17-28 f/2.8 for video? knowing that the Sony is OSS while the Tamron is not? and would the fact of not having hand held stabilization on the lens really make it a less ideal lens ? or would the faster F/2.8 make up for it? please share your thoughts and knowledge. much appreciated!
To be honest, I don't see a big difference between lenses with and without OSS on the bodies that have IBIS. That's obviously not true if you have a camera without IBIS. The best video footage is going to come when using a gimbal. No OSS delivers as good of results.
Thanks for your review. GM is too expensive for me, primes are not an option for what i do most of the times. Already having the 28-75 i bought this one too.
Hi Dustin, thanks so much for this detailed review. It is just what I have been waiting for. I am debating between buying this lens ( and I do own the Tamron 28-75) or the Sony 24 f1.4 GM. I wish that you could review the Sony 24 f1.4 and compare the IQ of both lenses in a future video. I think that would help a lot of Sony camera owners! I am looking to add a wider angle to my lens collection as 28mm is the widest that I currently own for full frame.
I will get to all the GM lenses eventually. I'm trying to set up a better way to get Sony loaners. It's tougher in Canada because their distributor in Canada doesn't get loaners.
Thanks again, Dustin. I think Sony should pay a little bit more attention to their Canadian reviewers/influencers! Your viewers want to give Sony their money, too! Supporting channels like yours helps a lot of people make informed lens and camera purchases and $$$ for the manufacturers.
The best real estate setup on Sony (IMO) is buying a Canon EF mount Laowa 12mm F2.8 Zero D and the Laowa MSC. This gives you a 17mm shift lens for Sony which is fantastic for real estate. I own and use that combo myself, and I reviewed it here: bit.ly/LaowaMSCda
To tag onto that question/response- are you aware of any products (other than actual bellows) that allow for tilting of non-tilt lenses? It would could cut down on focus stacking demands for my product photography.
@@sebastiantorres890 if you aren't blowing the image up, the effect will be indistinguishable to all but the most skilled critiques. Fixing distortion in Lightroom however, lowers the effective resolution of your image, unlike doing the work in camera. So ultimately, it depends.
@@DustinAbbottTWI just viewed the video fully. Very well done. All the main topic are covered. I think the only topic remaining could be stabilization at 17mm eventually and to be picky 😅
@@juanmaasecas if you're talking about the konica minolta 17-35/2.8-4 which is the same as the tamron well I use it a lot on A-mount system. Clearly the corners and edge aren't the best but yes it's bang for buck. But adapted on e-mount it might be unattractive I don't know. I didn't like using it in MF with laea3 on A7Rm2 for instance.
Another nice review, thank you. I am not a real estate or architectural photographer, but I was hoping the Tamron to be useful for things like that. Could you explain a little more why this lens isn’t for that type of photography? I do want to improve my photography on cityscapes, building as architecture. Thank you
There’s a little too much barrel distortion to be optimal for real estate photography in my opinion. You can zoom in a bit, though, and distortion most,y disappears
Dustin Abbott Thank you so much. I have a Samyang/Rokinon AF 14mm f/2.8 which distorts quite a lot. I concluded this was because of the ultra wide angle so I was planning to sell the Samyang/Rokinon and go for this Tamron, hoping it would distort less. The versatility of the zoom helps too. 😆
hi, I have recently watched a Tony Northrup video where he says that he doesn't think micro-contrast exists, in that it's probably the same thing as sharpness. Since you use that term frequently I was wondering if you could explain the difference between sharpness and micro-contrast. Many thanks for the video. I also look forward to the comparison with the 16-35 2.8 GM :)
I disagree that it is the same as sharpness. It's probably closest to acutance, or the ability to resolve fine textures with contrast on a pixel level. I demonstrate microcontrast in this video. ruclips.net/video/La036dB-x_M/видео.html (somewhere are the middle).
Hi, Tamron finally issued an firmware update for the 17-28 mm This update improves the following issues which may rarely occur with certain settings. 1.The back monitor of camera instantly flashes when the shutter button is pressed halfway. 2.AF doesn’t work properly after the camera recovers from the sleep mode or power off. www.tamron.jp/en/support/popup/a046.html#SO
I won't be doing that comparison during this review cycle, if that is the question. I just finished up a very big and expensive multi-lens comparison with the 85mm options. Those projects are both expensive and time-consuming.
Only you know your shooting needs, but there's certainly some redundancy there. Hanging onto the Tamron to use for traveling light situations or when filters are needed does make some sense...for some people.
Interesting and helpful,thx! But....You could easily made it more helpful by simply shooting a testchart and compared it with previous testchart photos (that you prolly dont have) of some very sharp lens you testaed before. Testcharts are controversial and doesnt tell everything, I know, but would you ever find a lens that shows good values from testchart photo but unsharp "real" photos? Just an easy way to compare sharpness of 2 lenses when both arent available at the same time.
Hmmm...I've included 3 comparisons of sharp lenses, so I'm not sure what your complaint is. I have wall tests of all lenses that I've done in recent history, but there isn't a similar zoom lens that I've reviewed on Sony.
My best argument for test charts is that they are high contrast, making it very easy to pick out sharpness/contrast where the grey of a wall might be less blatantly obvious.
What complaint? I made a suggestion. And what has zoom to do with it? Myself I'd be very interested to se a comparison with sony and/or sigma 24mm/1.4. If sharpness turned out to be comparable it would be a compelling argument for this tamron zoom
I think that's true, but I find I pick up more real world subtleties with a three dimensional surface. Case in point is the Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART, which people who chart tested called CA free, but in real world lighting does exhibit some fringing. My testing method caught that.
I just realized something. All Sony has to do is put a hinge on their existing design we can finally have a flip out screen and Sony would not be copying canon
From the tamron review, it seems as at full aperture the corners are much better in the tamron vs the Batis 18mm, especially at close distances.. that surprises me since batis is a more expensive prime.. am I right?
well oh Azraelian-with-no video-content-on-his-channel, the tone of his tone is anything but "frowny" but you don`t seem like the type of person to prefer to praise when praise is due
Great IQ review Dustin. I have both Tamron lenses the 17-28 and the 28-75 not as much for the very best iQ but their both good lightweight flexible options for mobile events or when i don't have a lot of time to react to my environment but still care about having a good overall quality outcome. I sold my 24-70GM and 12-24G after having them for at least a year and replaced them with the Tamron's and i'm happy for the most part. Nothing is perfect right lol. Thanks again Dustin have a great day
That's such an overlooked quality these days. Having reasonably sized and lightweight options means (to me) that those lenses are more likely to actually get used on a regular basis.
Michael Mystro Pierce why you was not happy with 12-24 G ? Just for price/weight performance ? Or the lack of use of 12-16 mm range ? I will be curious to know your opinion. I plan to start real estate photography and video and I’m struggling between buying the Tamron 17-28 or Sony 12-24 (I already own the Tamron 28-75). Thank you
@@Tarkinx It wasn't that i wasn't happy with it just I didn't use it enough to justify keeping it. I do real estate from time to time and landscape for fun and the only other thing i shoot that wide is Groups for weddings but i really don't need it to be that wide. The widest i need is a 14mm even for real estate. It's a great lens if you use it a lot. I didn't but the 17-28 fits me a bit better and it's cheaper with about the same IQ is the 12-24G f4 plus I like the extra stop of light on the 17-28 being that it's a f2.8
Tarkinx 12-24 is too wide for RE. You will easily misrepresent the size of the property with anything less than 16mm. 16-35 Sony Zeiss f4 was what I used for two years. I’m now using the Tamron 17-28. The Tamron is producing better images than the Sony lens.
Hopefully they will release a 70-200 (or 75-2xx) as well. Seems like an easy recommendation for people wanting good value full frame zooms for Sony E-Mount.
I'm nearly 100% certain that this is their plan, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it start at 75mm. They've chosen zoom ratios that they feel like they can do really well, and so far it seems like a winning formula.
Here's hoping they release it this year. It's hard to drop $2500 on the GM.
I have a suspicion that Sony is not allowing third party manufacturers with their focus algorithms to make standard focal length zooms. Would be a clever though lame way to artificially inflate the sales of their own G-Master bread and butter lenses.
That said, my money is on something around a 75-180 from Tamron.
If they normaly compromise the focal range in some was wouldn't it be 75 - 150
I'd expect either a 70-210 or 75-210 since those are more "old-fashioned" focal lengths (that's what the older Nikon and Canon lenses were), but probably an f/4.
Wouldn't be surprised to see a 70-200 f/2.8 alongside it though since they do make both focal lengths for DSLRs.
Bought it and this review confirms it was great buy. Thanks Dustin as always great video.
Enjoy!
Brilliant review yet again. Thank you for your work and dedication to these reviews.
My pleasure
Thanks a lot for those detailed reviews! Best channel for reviews and comparisons in my opinion! Can always count on it and trust it!
That's great feedback
I hope that you will compare this lens to the upcoming Sigma 14-24mm F/2.8 FE.
I'll almost certainly do that.
Yes to this!!!
I got my hands on the Sigma 14-24 F 2.8 for Sony yesterday and loved the lens, but it requires use either of a gel filter or a very expensive 150 filter holder.
@@barbaraolk749 well yeah, its a duplicate of the canon version. Not really good for much except landscapes.
@@barbaraolk749 Hi, I recevied my Sigma lens yesterday but was doing some tests and the corners are coming out not very sharp. I have the new Tamron 17-28mm and it's look quite a bit sharper than the Sigma. How are your corners? I tried f2.8, f4, f5.6... I'm wondering if I have a bad copy. Thanks!
Color grading is simply astonishing!
That’s ironic, since this is out of camera footage. It’s more due to using good light and setting up the camera properly
Tamron really made the stack of primes! I got mine and I am looking forward to use it on my vacation.
I wonder how Tamron would make their F2.8/F4 telephoto zoom. So far, Tamron made a good compromise with the weight over focal length, but it would be hard for telephoto zooms.
They've done good work with both Sony lenses thus far
Interesting how a Tammy zoom can win over prime lenses at pretty much all focal lengths
It’s true. A good zoom lens can be surprisingly strong
Sir, please compare with 16-35 f2.8 GM and 16-35 f4 ZA lens. thanks
Hi Gragery, I'm afraid I don't have those lenses on hand right now. I may do a comparison in the future.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks Sir, love your channel... good day.
That doesn't surprise me, to be honest. This lens is pretty strong optically...particularly at landscape distances.
@SwitchRich Is this a well known and documented issue?
really great review, need to know about the autofocus system especially in video mode in AFC
great job !
That's definitely in the final review.
It is great review as always, but honestly the only thing we cared for was how it stands in comparison to 16-35 GM
I just did a six lens comparison that cost me a lot of money and time (I did it more as fan service). Bringing in the GM would have been more of the same - and I have neither the time nor money to invest in it at the moment. I might try to do a three way comparison with the new Sigma 14-24 and the GM in the future.
The 16-35 GM is much too expensive. No fair comparison.
Looking forward to his it fairs with continuous AF for video, and how well in camera distortion correction works for video.
Final review material for sure.
Thanks for making this video, I know when I look for details in image quality I could always go to your channel. One more question, which zoom lens is good for both architecture and astro you recommend?
I'm a fan of Sigma's 14-24mm F2.8 ART. I'm hoping the new Sony FE version will be as good or better.
nice review, i just recently bought the Laowa 15mm and was on the fence to if I should wait for this one. I think i still made the right choice as i use my lens for indoor video work. Not sure if the vignetting is so apparent while shooting video but i think having straighter lines is probably more important
Yes and no. The Tamron actually receives in camera correction for distortion when shooting video, which helps it
Dustin Abbott so for property videos what’s better to go for do you think
I would probably choose this lens for video for the simple reason of the corrections.
Thanks for the great review. Do you think the tamron 15-30 g2 is still the better choice for astro?
I went back and compared, and the G2 has slightly less coma. It also has a wider focal length, which can be useful for shooting astro. Not a huge difference.
Thanks again for another good review. Just received my copy. I also pre-ordered the new Sigma 14-24mm f2.8 e mount. I heard it may be shipping later in August. Hoping I get it before the 30 days is up on my Tamron so I can compare and decide which one to keep 😬
I intend to do that kind of comparison as well. The Sigma is much bigger, but the DSLR version of that lens was excellent.
@@DustinAbbottTWI right... Might come down to portability vs image quality and obviously a couple of hundred dollars difference. Hope it comes out soon 😉
That probably sums it up well.
@@DustinAbbottTWI So I received my Sigma 14-24mm f2.8 for Sony yesterday. Was excited to put it against the Tamron 17-28 which I have until Thursday to send back if I don't like it. I'm not a professional tester but I went to the outside of my house and took pictures of the front wall that has texture. I had my A7III on a tripod. I'm a little disappointed by the results of the Sigma. The Tamron right now is looking quite a bit sharper than the Sigma on the corners. I tried a couple of focal lengths at f2.8, f4 and f5.6 and same thing on all. I wonder if I have a bad copy.. I tried the test a second time 30 minutes later and similar results. I'll try to test tomorrow on a different background to triple check : (
Tried a 3rd test this morning. Took to pictures of my beat up fence. I uploaded the files to Dropbox in case you want to check out - www.dropbox.com/sh/h4i9mjfgz2j4d4o/AAAvkoz_gssrIUCrMLEZ8PYMa?dl=0
Thank you Mr Abbott
You're welcome, Jim.
Looks sharp, I mostly shoot JPEG so photos look fine being corrected in body, its light and small, pretty much a win win, strangley however watching the review of the 17-28 I want that Iiowa 15mm! That would be great for wide wedding dancefloor and venue shots with its low distortion (video) thanks for the image quality comparison
My pleasure.
I watched the same thing and was so pleased not to own the Loawa. The zoom blows it out of the water for sharpness even with the Loawa stopped down. The only saving grace is the minimal distortion. That's not enough for me. The versatility alone far outweighs that.
The Laowa is quite sharp at smaller apertures, but the zoom delivers punchier colors and contrast and is sharper at wide apertures.
From what I see, it can even match the IQ of the Batis 18. Would you say so? Thank you for a great review.
That seems about reasonable to me...and probably has a bit less distortion at 18mm. The Batis might have a slight center contrast edge, but it wouldn't be by much.
Very nice comparison, but this comparison was done on a7r3 . Do we see any problem resolving 61mp with both the tamron lenses on a7r4? Thanks in advance
The short answer is no. A good lens is a good lens, period. I saw very little variance on the RIV with good lenses.
Sir your reviews is the best, just on your review I invest lot of money blindly
No pressure on me or anything!
Not a Sony owner but still a great video along with the info presented.
That's kind feedback.
@@DustinAbbottTWI IRIX will be releasing a new lens soon, I look forward to your review on it.
Dustin for the win! 🤘
Thanks!
Do we think they will make a G2 VXD version of this lens ?
I honestly don't know the answer to that. The 28-75mm was the first in the series, and probably the most popular. It was pretty soon to get a G2 version of that lens, so I don't know if they plan to redo the whole lineup
Do you recommend this or the 20-40 in terms of sharpness/image quality only on a sony a7r4?im just concerned about the sharpness and cropping ability..
Both of them are plenty sharp enough. The bigger question is whether or not you need F2.8. If not, the 20-40mm is newer and has a few more features.
Thank you for this review. I think I will prefer adapt the tamron 17-35mm for dslr. The price is much resonable.
Fair enough, though if you have any plans to shoot video, the 17-28mm is the far better option. It also receives in camera corrections.
Thx Dustin! I will only use it for landscape and occasionally astrophoto. Also, most of my filters are in 77mm, that why I guess it is a better choice for me.
Very detailed review (as always)! However, I am stil struggling whether to puchase the Sony 16 - 35 f4 or the Tamron you've reviewed. I don't bother too much that the Sony does offer only f4. I will be mainly using either of the lenses for landscape photography where f 2.8 won't be necessary. (Though I love to shoot at night, I have a different prime lense for this pupose). On the other hand image stabilization, which the Sony offers isn't a killer criterium not choosing the Tamron......As a consequence, I'd love to get your expertise which lense you would prefer oder recommend. Many thanks for your feedback.
It isn't easy, for sure. The Tamron is the sharper lens of the two, but it isn't night and day. I do think the Tamron is better value, but the Sony has a few more features. I can't really make the decision for you; it's not an easy one at the best of times!
Hi Dustin, appreciate your feedback. No it's really not... Let's see.
NIce job Dustin! Which lens would you recommend for real estate video and photo jobs? thanks
The best real estate setup on Sony (IMO) is buying a Canon EF mount Laowa 12mm F2.8 Zero D and the Laowa MSC. This gives you a 17mm shift lens for Sony which is fantastic for real estate. I own and use that combo myself, and I reviewed it here: bit.ly/LaowaMSCda
Hi, Nice review. Please, could you tell your opinion compare with tamron 17-35 di osd? I have Sigma Mc11 on my Sony camera and 17-35 looked good in your previous review. Used price for 17-35 around half of this.
I mention that a bit in the final review
Very kind of you. Thank you in advance.
Is the Sony/Zeiss Vario-Tessar T* FE 16-35mm f/4 ZA OSS Lens better?
I don't think so.
Nice video, thank you! Have you noticed the phenomenon when during the AF-S with closed aperture there's momentarily white blinking on LCD? Probably the aperture actuation and sensor gain aren't synchronized as well as on Sony lenses...
Hmmm, I'll have to look for it, as that hasn't stood out to me thus far.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I read about this phenomenon on forum and then confirmed it personally in the store. Noticed at f5.6 in AF-S mode.
Hi. Thanks for this. I'm looking for a WA lens to do panoramic. I have the 16 35 F4 but I think to change for this one, or the Laowa 15 mm. Wich one do you think is better? thks
I like this lens better, though the Laowa is lower distortion.
Dustin, would you say the Sony Vario-Tessar T* FE 16-35mm f/4 is a better lens than the Tamron 17-28 f/2.8 for video? knowing that the Sony is OSS while the Tamron is not? and would the fact of not having hand held stabilization on the lens really make it a less ideal lens ? or would the faster F/2.8 make up for it? please share your thoughts and knowledge. much appreciated!
To be honest, I don't see a big difference between lenses with and without OSS on the bodies that have IBIS. That's obviously not true if you have a camera without IBIS. The best video footage is going to come when using a gimbal. No OSS delivers as good of results.
@@DustinAbbottTWI awesome! thanks for the reply!
Thanks for your review. GM is too expensive for me, primes are not an option for what i do most of the times. Already having the 28-75 i bought this one too.
That's the value of the third parties stepping in and filling this gap with excellent options.
Hi Dustin, thanks so much for this detailed review. It is just what I have been waiting for. I am debating between buying this lens ( and I do own the Tamron 28-75) or the Sony 24 f1.4 GM. I wish that you could review the Sony 24 f1.4 and compare the IQ of both lenses in a future video. I think that would help a lot of Sony camera owners! I am looking to add a wider angle to my lens collection as 28mm is the widest that I currently own for full frame.
I will get to all the GM lenses eventually. I'm trying to set up a better way to get Sony loaners. It's tougher in Canada because their distributor in Canada doesn't get loaners.
Thanks again, Dustin. I think Sony should pay a little bit more attention to their Canadian reviewers/influencers! Your viewers want to give Sony their money, too! Supporting channels like yours helps a lot of people make informed lens and camera purchases and $$$ for the manufacturers.
Let them know that. It's demand that makes them act.
Great video! Which lens do you consider a better fit for real estate photography within the same price range? Thanks
The best real estate setup on Sony (IMO) is buying a Canon EF mount Laowa 12mm F2.8 Zero D and the Laowa MSC. This gives you a 17mm shift lens for Sony which is fantastic for real estate. I own and use that combo myself, and I reviewed it here: bit.ly/LaowaMSCda
To tag onto that question/response- are you aware of any products (other than actual bellows) that allow for tilting of non-tilt lenses?
It would could cut down on focus stacking demands for my product photography.
I'm not aware of anything tilting. That's a weak point in the Sony lineup.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Do you think it would be a similar effect to correct vertical and horizontal lines in Lightroom than using the Laowa MSC?
@@sebastiantorres890 if you aren't blowing the image up, the effect will be indistinguishable to all but the most skilled critiques. Fixing distortion in Lightroom however, lowers the effective resolution of your image, unlike doing the work in camera. So ultimately, it depends.
Was the camera you used for testing the A7R3?
Yes, and I do mention that in the review.
Hello D.A
Question:
Do you intend to compare this ML version 17-28/2.8 VS the tamron DSLR 15-30/2.8 G2? Quality build and IQ wise?
Not really. I don't have the G2 here, and it's not for the same system.
@@DustinAbbottTWI just viewed the video fully. Very well done. All the main topic are covered. I think the only topic remaining could be stabilization at 17mm eventually and to be picky 😅
I would be interested in the tamron 17-35 2.8-4 adapted. It's much cheaper and f3.5 at 28mm so not a big difference...
@@juanmaasecas That's valid, though the autofocus performance would be much better with the 17-28.
@@juanmaasecas if you're talking about the konica minolta 17-35/2.8-4 which is the same as the tamron well I use it a lot on A-mount system. Clearly the corners and edge aren't the best but yes it's bang for buck. But adapted on e-mount it might be unattractive I don't know. I didn't like using it in MF with laea3 on A7Rm2 for instance.
Would you recommend this lens on A7ii for travelling?
I haven't tested it on an a7II, but I don't see why not.
can you please do some review for Olympus Pro lens?
I'm sorry, but I have no plans to add Olympus to my review schedule.
Another nice review, thank you.
I am not a real estate or architectural photographer, but I was hoping the Tamron to be useful for things like that. Could you explain a little more why this lens isn’t for that type of photography? I do want to improve my photography on cityscapes, building as architecture.
Thank you
There’s a little too much barrel distortion to be optimal for real estate photography in my opinion. You can zoom in a bit, though, and distortion most,y disappears
Dustin Abbott Thank you so much. I have a Samyang/Rokinon AF 14mm f/2.8 which distorts quite a lot. I concluded this was because of the ultra wide angle so I was planning to sell the Samyang/Rokinon and go for this Tamron, hoping it would distort less. The versatility of the zoom helps too. 😆
hi, I have recently watched a Tony Northrup video where he says that he doesn't think micro-contrast exists, in that it's probably the same thing as sharpness. Since you use that term frequently I was wondering if you could explain the difference between sharpness and micro-contrast. Many thanks for the video. I also look forward to the comparison with the 16-35 2.8 GM :)
I disagree that it is the same as sharpness. It's probably closest to acutance, or the ability to resolve fine textures with contrast on a pixel level. I demonstrate microcontrast in this video. ruclips.net/video/La036dB-x_M/видео.html (somewhere are the middle).
@@DustinAbbottTWI so what is sharpness then?
Hi,
Tamron finally issued an firmware update for the 17-28
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This update improves the following issues which may rarely occur with certain settings.
1.The back monitor of camera instantly flashes when the shutter button is pressed halfway.
2.AF doesn’t work properly after the camera recovers from the sleep mode or power off.
www.tamron.jp/en/support/popup/a046.html#SO
Thanks for the info! Appreciated
Sharpness better then Batis 25 f2?
Probably in the center. The Batis might have the advantage in the corners.
Please have a look at the Tamron 35 1.4 which Tamron claims to be the finest lens ever made by them.
It arrives next week
waiting so so so long~~~~~~watching now~~
Enjoy!
Distortion can be corrected tho??
Of course, and both JPEGs and Video are corrected in camera.
Wish I had a flat brick wall like yours to test lenses with. :P
LOL
Compare tamron 17-28 f2.8 vs Sony 16-35 F4 ?
I won't be doing that comparison during this review cycle, if that is the question. I just finished up a very big and expensive multi-lens comparison with the 85mm options. Those projects are both expensive and time-consuming.
Do you think it's stupid to have both this Tamron 17-28 and the Sigma ART 14-24? I keep thinking I need to sell one of them.
Only you know your shooting needs, but there's certainly some redundancy there. Hanging onto the Tamron to use for traveling light situations or when filters are needed does make some sense...for some people.
Interesting and helpful,thx! But....You could easily made it more helpful by simply shooting a testchart and compared it with previous testchart photos (that you prolly dont have) of some very sharp lens you testaed before. Testcharts are controversial and doesnt tell everything, I know, but would you ever find a lens that shows good values from testchart photo but unsharp "real" photos? Just an easy way to compare sharpness of 2 lenses when both arent available at the same time.
Hmmm...I've included 3 comparisons of sharp lenses, so I'm not sure what your complaint is. I have wall tests of all lenses that I've done in recent history, but there isn't a similar zoom lens that I've reviewed on Sony.
My best argument for test charts is that they are high contrast, making it very easy to pick out sharpness/contrast where the grey of a wall might be less blatantly obvious.
What complaint? I made a suggestion. And what has zoom to do with it? Myself I'd be very interested to se a comparison with sony and/or sigma 24mm/1.4. If sharpness turned out to be comparable it would be a compelling argument for this tamron zoom
I think that's true, but I find I pick up more real world subtleties with a three dimensional surface. Case in point is the Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART, which people who chart tested called CA free, but in real world lighting does exhibit some fringing. My testing method caught that.
Most likely the comparison will come when the new Sigma 14-24 FE comes out, and I'd like to compare the Tamron, Sigma, and maybe the GM.
I just realized something. All Sony has to do is put a hinge on their existing design we can finally have a flip out screen and Sony would not be copying canon
Doesn't look like they've done that...at least with the a7RIV.
Batis 18mm compared would be quite interesting 😀
I might try to arrange a little comparison when the new Sigma 14-24 comes out
From the tamron review, it seems as at full aperture the corners are much better in the tamron vs the Batis 18mm, especially at close distances.. that surprises me since batis is a more expensive prime.. am I right?
Got to say you were right.. it's indeed always two downvotes on all new videos.. always!!!!!
There's definitely a pattern.
Does this lens have image stabilization for videos
No, it relies on in camera stabilization
10:31 Buzz Lightyear just entered the chat
It was just infinity...not beyond.
Just infinity...not beyond ;)
The problem with third party wide angle distortion is that it won’t be corrected
That’s not true. Both JPEGS and video are corrected.
why does this dude always look too tired with that frown
Probably comments like this one ;)
well oh Azraelian-with-no video-content-on-his-channel, the tone of his tone is anything but "frowny" but you don`t seem like the type of person to prefer to praise when praise is due
Please stop testing on this wall...totally useless..your previous method lenses on table was better
I disagree, but thanks for the feedback.