they wanted to nerf shadowblight aspect because only viable node was shadowblight, but decreasing it by whooping 140 % is too much , like wtf. Just change these passives nodes of necro , its nobody fault that all of them except shadowlbight are useless . Node for minions should be- Your minions ( except golem ) and minion priest cast automatically every second without need to be on skill bar, additionaly minions get 2% increased stats for every minion you have. this way we could have one free slot for other skill and usable minion passive node
The big problem: So many builds/aspects/skills/uniques are only viable because of shadowblight - Now with the nerf tons of things are simply not good anymore or straight up useless
Exactly its just dumb... They need the fun stuff instead of buffing the bad stuff its so annoying I only play minions with necro and shadowblight minions was my fav and then they ruined that. So not I gotta use blood surge with minions cause blizzard sucks.
This seems like a good alternative build for the necro, because it seems the devs really want us to play bone spirit, which I don't think would be for me.
This >s like the 2nd or 3rd season shadow has been nerfed in a row. It wasn't even meta back then. They should just reworked iron maiden to grant life steal against afflicted targets. Love your content but I doubt I'll play s5 with how things stand. Tragic nerfs and underwhelming buffs with no reworks to useless skills.
Why don't they address basic issues like, why do I have to create five characters just to carry all of my summoning material, why doesn't that chit go in the MATERIALS tab?
I think the big elephant in the room is all these pay to win websites that are popping up everywhere. That's why they don't stack the sellable materials so Blizz can sell more copies of the game to the Diablo-bay people.
I've been doing a bit of testing on PTR myself. I really like this Shademist aspect for pets. It procs X'Fals (averaging 4-5 sec per proc) and the new Inevitable Fate aspect. Now to figure out how to scale X'fals appropriately. Shademist also triggers Wither. Hoping this could bring a shadow dot/minion style build back into the mix, even if not super S tier build. As long as it's fun. What I would really like to see, and in agreeance with your point about aspects. Classes that have either 2h or 1h/OH only, should be able to equip both a 2h and an OH for the aspect. The OH just sits on your belt as it does when in town. Yes that means everyone would be using a 2h. Otherwise, base damage for 1h should be increased for these classes, similar to how shield increases, but shield also needs to increase by more than 80%. Unless you need a defensive aspect, shields just feel bad otherwise.
Fun thing i tried on ptr - aspect of decay on a 2h, scale shadow damage over time on paragon and tempers, shademist, everything just melts even getting close to your winions
I know content creators gotta create content, but trying to make builds based on the PTR when the PTR is in flux and things being tweaked, fixed, buffed, nerfed, bugged, etc, seems like busywork.
Sir - I do make a build on PTR to see if it works and how much its nerfed/capped/etc - Then as S5 releases we can reiterate on the build and shore up where changed happened. This is to create a "vision"
you make it sounds like we necro get a sec boots in new season, necro is kinda fucked up in S5 compare to other classes if u don't play the bone spirit which what dev tell you to.
I don't agree that another aspect multiplying damage is okay. why don't they do something creative, e.g. skeletons absorb up to 5 corpses and turn into zombies, which will make the next 5 attacks become enhanced area attacks
It would be great to have stuff like this Sadly that is not how diablo 4 works as of now Hence we need those multipliers to be able to do the content given to us
@@P4wnyhof :) in season 1 I got a sacred amulet and at level 55 from Elias ... upgraded it to +5 got the ancestral rolls on it back when you could get the ancestral rolls if you were going above 725 IP or something and got stuck with it half of the season because it had perfectly rolled cooldown, +3 gloom, movement speed andand +3 to corpse skills so I got stuck with 180% sacred amulet for half of the season.... it kinda got stuck in my head ...
Kalans edict is sadly completely useless since you can get 100% attack speed without That being said you can easy get rid of frenzied dead without trying and put another aspect on
It'll be interesting to see how Necro has changed in 5 seasons when my rotation comes back again. Maybe by season 10 some other builds will be viable? 😂 I've managed to get my Shadow Mages doing about 32 mil a hit. Surprisingly the blizzard aspect they cast can get to about 8-9 million a tick. Mages need a legendary paragon board ( like golem) to push them further.
I don't understand why Crown of Lucion is on the planner? Doesn't it activate when a skill using primary resource is used? Maybe I'm not looking at everything right
Without a poison option, this is our only option for DOT damage. We have nothing giving us a steady poison, burn or bleed DOT. I'd love for bone skills to apply a bleed DOT.
why not use aspect of the damned on your 2h weapon ? with this build, it would give permanent 100% (x) dmg since you curse everything and all your dmg is shadow dmg with mages and you would be able to take kalan's edict passive this way. I'm quite sure this would do more dmg that way ... and you would be able to take hardened bones on top of that for more dmg reduction !!
Damned does not work on shadow mages You are correct they damned is great but it does simply not calculate correctly on everything If that gets fixed we can talk!
@@P4wnyhof i thought it worked, and you're right it does not ... then just replace it with aspect of the great feast frrom season 5 ptr, and it would be a +90% (x) multi instead of a 100% ... still very good imo
Sir you are missing something here :) We had to die to get the boss to work and the build is faster Also comparing nerfed builds to old builds or barbarian - Is useless - Thank you
@@P4wnyhof summoner build is still good for speed farm, but the aspect you have is not the best for speed farm or pushing pit. The new nerft they have for shadow summoner is tell u that don’t need to find way to keep shadowblight active, is double easier for it to active on s5
We do need essence. Atleast a high enough essence regen, so the skellys can drain it, because if there is no essence to drain, the dmg multiplier is gone.
@@NovaMosh that is how it worked in season 1. If you did not had any essence the buff was gone. Otherwise, why the essence drain? If 0 essence is needed for the buff to be active, why drain it at all?
You streamers need to chill out. All of you act like drama queens. S5 is lost,OP,bad,good....cause of this and that. Its PTR just. They chance everything when we hit S5,especially with those feedbacks
Sir you clearly seem to understand nothing about this video - build still works + feedback sent to Blizzard Actively working to improve the game for everyone Please try to understand the video first before making comments like this
Are you brain dead? It’s a build and this is his job… yes there’s a chance things change… and there’s a chance it doesn’t change at all. Take it with a grain of salt… and probably go outside. Your brain is rotting.
The simple fact that people are so hooked on the shadow blight aspect shows why it was nerved. You can play without it and focus more on your minions. They don't loose that danage as you are using the new minion aspect for almost the same damage and keeping a 2h scythe you also gain another 40% minion damage directly.
That's simply not true Your damage is vastly lower due to all the nerfs Still "you can keep up" Also nerfing the aspect is plain stupid since it puts so many builds out of business (slight nerf Is ok this is too much)
I'm gonna tell blizzard my necro identifies as a barb so I won't have to worry about nerfs anymore
Word!
@@P4wnyhof hey man great guides, Ive been following your necro stuff since d4 launched. Keep up the great work.
Lol! That is classic! 😆
I didn't think Season 5 started yet....?
PTR testing.
@@mickpratt8327 yeah... So not actually season 5.
PTR testing - Trying things - Trying to make it work - And creating feedback on stuff that doesn't work just feels straight up bad
they wanted to nerf shadowblight aspect because only viable node was shadowblight, but decreasing it by whooping 140 % is too much , like wtf. Just change these passives nodes of necro , its nobody fault that all of them except shadowlbight are useless . Node for minions should be- Your minions ( except golem ) and minion priest cast automatically every second without need to be on skill bar, additionaly minions get 2% increased stats for every minion you have. this way we could have one free slot for other skill and usable minion passive node
The big problem: So many builds/aspects/skills/uniques are only viable because of shadowblight - Now with the nerf tons of things are simply not good anymore or straight up useless
Exactly its just dumb... They need the fun stuff instead of buffing the bad stuff its so annoying I only play minions with necro and shadowblight minions was my fav and then they ruined that. So not I gotta use blood surge with minions cause blizzard sucks.
This seems like a good alternative build for the necro, because it seems the devs really want us to play bone spirit, which I don't think would be for me.
Bone spirit is a lover build because it's a "setup damage" build instead of perma blaster
This >s like the 2nd or 3rd season shadow has been nerfed in a row. It wasn't even meta back then. They should just reworked iron maiden to grant life steal against afflicted targets. Love your content but I doubt I'll play s5 with how things stand. Tragic nerfs and underwhelming buffs with no reworks to useless skills.
Iron maiden life steal would be grand9
I just wish they fixed the bugs in S4 first no way am I going to buy S5 with all the last 12 months of fcking pain have had to endure
Bugs are slow and steady fixed - yes wish a lot of things get fixed faster
watching this while knowing ww barb can easily clear pit 101 in 75s ruins all the fun out necro theorycrafting for me.
Nah that's not the way to look at things
I do enjoy my barb - but making necro viable is way more fun
Why don't they address basic issues like, why do I have to create five characters just to carry all of my summoning material, why doesn't that chit go in the MATERIALS tab?
Thats a whole different box of the pandora but i fully agree!
I think the big elephant in the room is all these pay to win websites that are popping up everywhere. That's why they don't stack the sellable materials so Blizz can sell more copies of the game to the Diablo-bay people.
Thanks for the build mate; it looks like both links are taking is to the Golem build though - is there a mage one too please? :)
Nvm actually, found it in your full build list
I was kinda thinking about using a No Minions Blood Serge build in season 5 to change it up hopefully it will be super viable for end game.
Sadly it wont be - Still lacks boss damage unless they change something fundamentally about surge
@@P4wnyhof Damn i probably won't even try it now lol
They should rework aphotic aspect, it's seems super pointless now.
Yes it does and yes they should 👍😅 went from amazing to wtf
Still hoping one day they have a meta howl from below build
Should technically get buffed in S5!
How many defensive aspects is enuff
Hey man. Can you please create a non shadow, no corpse explosion build? I absolutely HATE CE. It feels terrible to use.
Dunno mate, i guess this season bones will be the way
Bone spirit yes - bone spear no
I've been doing a bit of testing on PTR myself. I really like this Shademist aspect for pets. It procs X'Fals (averaging 4-5 sec per proc) and the new Inevitable Fate aspect. Now to figure out how to scale X'fals appropriately. Shademist also triggers Wither. Hoping this could bring a shadow dot/minion style build back into the mix, even if not super S tier build. As long as it's fun.
What I would really like to see, and in agreeance with your point about aspects. Classes that have either 2h or 1h/OH only, should be able to equip both a 2h and an OH for the aspect. The OH just sits on your belt as it does when in town. Yes that means everyone would be using a 2h. Otherwise, base damage for 1h should be increased for these classes, similar to how shield increases, but shield also needs to increase by more than 80%. Unless you need a defensive aspect, shields just feel bad otherwise.
Necrosis need a “carnevil” type build… kinda be the D4 team can’t come up with better builds/playstyles
I havent found any of these new aspects yet... and im level 96. Ive scrapped a lot of loot and killed a lot of bosses. Wtf
we need bone spear to be back s5 bro i miss him 😢
You can play it and it rocks the infernal hordes
But for the pit it won't be "killer"
@@P4wnyhof sad
Fun thing i tried on ptr - aspect of decay on a 2h, scale shadow damage over time on paragon and tempers, shademist, everything just melts even getting close to your winions
Does Shademist count as damage over time with multipliers?
Guess what? I’m not using the shadowblight key passive so I’m not affected by these nerfs. But I benefit from the damage buff that sever is gonna get
Congratz!
I know content creators gotta create content, but trying to make builds based on the PTR when the PTR is in flux and things being tweaked, fixed, buffed, nerfed, bugged, etc, seems like busywork.
Sir - I do make a build on PTR to see if it works and how much its nerfed/capped/etc - Then as S5 releases we can reiterate on the build and shore up where changed happened.
This is to create a "vision"
you make it sounds like we necro get a sec boots in new season, necro is kinda fucked up in S5 compare to other classes if u don't play the bone spirit which what dev tell you to.
No sir - IAM showing you a way how it still works if you want to play minions
While pointing out the problems that need a fix
I got tyrael's and grandfather. I think it would work
I don't agree that another aspect multiplying damage is okay. why don't they do something creative, e.g. skeletons absorb up to 5 corpses and turn into zombies, which will make the next 5 attacks become enhanced area attacks
It would be great to have stuff like this
Sadly that is not how diablo 4 works as of now
Hence we need those multipliers to be able to do the content given to us
It was 180% on amulets...
You are right i mathed wrong - For some reason I had 100% in my mind and not 120%
@@P4wnyhof :) in season 1 I got a sacred amulet and at level 55 from Elias ... upgraded it to +5 got the ancestral rolls on it back when you could get the ancestral rolls if you were going above 725 IP or something and got stuck with it half of the season because it had perfectly rolled cooldown, +3 gloom, movement speed andand +3 to corpse skills so I got stuck with 180% sacred amulet for half of the season.... it kinda got stuck in my head ...
I'm going to Sadly run minion, without shadow blight. Gong to run k edict. Unless over power minion becomes a thing.
Kalans edict is sadly completely useless since you can get 100% attack speed without
That being said you can easy get rid of frenzied dead without trying and put another aspect on
Is this build just as good with a 2 handed Scyth/Sword or is having a focus better?
you need the space for the extra aspect so you need to use 1hand+focus
Has noone else pointed out that most of these "new" aspects were actually malignant heart abilities back in the day?
They where :) A lot of people in Season 4 are new thou and never played S1 - No reason in dwelling in the past
Does the shadow aura scale with minion damage? Specifically mage/warrior damage.
Sadly not - But will hopefully get fixed for the relase of S5!
It'll be interesting to see how Necro has changed in 5 seasons when my rotation comes back again. Maybe by season 10 some other builds will be viable? 😂
I've managed to get my Shadow Mages doing about 32 mil a hit. Surprisingly the blizzard aspect they cast can get to about 8-9 million a tick.
Mages need a legendary paragon board ( like golem) to push them further.
Yes they do and yes the mage glyph needs a rework
Up to 57 mil a hit now.
16/16 rank aspects is it new for s5?
I don't understand why Crown of Lucion is on the planner? Doesn't it activate when a skill using primary resource is used? Maybe I'm not looking at everything right
Because it activates from the great feast aspect draining essence
@@knagen As of season 5 going live this is not, or at least no longer, the case.
The build is okay a bit crippled but still draging it self😂 i like it
It works for the people enjoying minions ! Even more active now and less boring
I've never considered shadowblight as true summon build, to me, it's a hybrid build.
This is simply semantics and does not help the discussion
Without a poison option, this is our only option for DOT damage. We have nothing giving us a steady poison, burn or bleed DOT. I'd love for bone skills to apply a bleed DOT.
why not use aspect of the damned on your 2h weapon ? with this build, it would give permanent 100% (x) dmg since you curse everything and all your dmg is shadow dmg with mages and you would be able to take kalan's edict passive this way. I'm quite sure this would do more dmg that way ... and you would be able to take hardened bones on top of that for more dmg reduction !!
Damned does not work on shadow mages
You are correct they damned is great but it does simply not calculate correctly on everything
If that gets fixed we can talk!
@@P4wnyhof that's weird, omw to test that right now ...
@@P4wnyhof i thought it worked, and you're right it does not ... then just replace it with aspect of the great feast frrom season 5 ptr, and it would be a +90% (x) multi instead of a 100% ... still very good imo
Will the Ring of Sacrilegious Soul be useful again?
No - its merely a convinience item
Sacrilegious ring in the build or no deal.
Soul ring is a crutch and not actually "good" maybe the new version is better
when you need 8 minutes to complete 101, the bd is not usefull at all
Sir you are missing something here :) We had to die to get the boss to work and the build is faster
Also comparing nerfed builds to old builds or barbarian - Is useless - Thank you
@@P4wnyhof summoner build is still good for speed farm, but the aspect you have is not the best for speed farm or pushing pit. The new nerft they have for shadow summoner is tell u that don’t need to find way to keep shadowblight active, is double easier for it to active on s5
Im still going to use shadow mages, s4 was the first time i really used necro and it was fun asf
Shadow mages is gonna be lit!
@@P4wnyhof nah :) Bone spirit will be new meta :)
We do need essence. Atleast a high enough essence regen, so the skellys can drain it, because if there is no essence to drain, the dmg multiplier is gone.
Sir there is no essence damage multiplier for minions?
@@P4wnyhof No I mean the Great Feast needs the essence to drain, so the multiplier is active, so you atleast need 13 essence regen always.
That's not how it works on the PTR though
@@NovaMosh that is how it worked in season 1. If you did not had any essence the buff was gone. Otherwise, why the essence drain? If 0 essence is needed for the buff to be active, why drain it at all?
@@istvanjuhasz210 Works without essence on PTR
A lot of people forget to factor in the buffs on the build. Which balance out the nerf to the Shadowblight Key Passive
Sir the new things don't balance it out
its season 4, there will be milion changes before season 5 start why bother making builds on ptr now ?? and necro season 4 is "butchered" right now
Sir - Builds to inspire - Builds to show weaknesses :)
You streamers need to chill out. All of you act like drama queens. S5 is lost,OP,bad,good....cause of this and that. Its PTR just. They chance everything when we hit S5,especially with those feedbacks
Sir you clearly seem to understand nothing about this video - build still works + feedback sent to Blizzard
Actively working to improve the game for everyone
Please try to understand the video first before making comments like this
Are you brain dead? It’s a build and this is his job… yes there’s a chance things change… and there’s a chance it doesn’t change at all. Take it with a grain of salt… and probably go outside. Your brain is rotting.
Who is the one acting like a drama queen here?
You're like that weird karen that approaches some random dude's car to tell them to calm down while you're cursing them out in road rage.
The simple fact that people are so hooked on the shadow blight aspect shows why it was nerved. You can play without it and focus more on your minions. They don't loose that danage as you are using the new minion aspect for almost the same damage and keeping a 2h scythe you also gain another 40% minion damage directly.
That's simply not true
Your damage is vastly lower due to all the nerfs
Still "you can keep up"
Also nerfing the aspect is plain stupid since it puts so many builds out of business (slight nerf Is ok this is too much)