We Test Ridgid's Deceptive Comparison Method!
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- It would seem that Ridgid tools deceived us with their testing! The viewers of our previous video • Telling Ridgid Executi... pointed out some deception in the comparative tool test between Ridgid's new 18 Volt brushless sub-compact one handed reciprocating saw (R8648) and Dewalt's Atomic (DCS369) 20V max one handed sawzall! So in this video we ran the testing again, but without the influence of Ridgid's executives or employees, and you'll be very shocked by the results!
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Claude? Lol
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I think claudio was in on it
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On behalf of the RIDGID design team here in SC, we thank you for showcasing our tools and giving them a fair test against the other guys! We take great pride in our brand and are always looking for ways to make our tools better.
You should expand the line up and bring back octane
@@bernardogaona37 really? You didn't see the octane disaster?
Rigid can definitely compete with other brands people just don’t like the looks size and ergonomics.
@@natepeterson7145 In my case I bought a Rigid pump and in those days it was lifetime warranty. Well the pump went bad in a year or two so I called them for a replacement. As it turns out you have to send it to them, which was costly and could take six weeks and no guarantee they would fix it, or if you can find a local Rigid repair center you can go there. Well I found a local place but they only do commercial/industrial repairs. So, it was one of those situations where sure they would warranty it but it was so costly and time consuming it was basically not really covered. I like Rigid stuff but I haven't had all good experiences with them.
I have many of your tools and love them
Nobody is going to switch battery platforms because a competitor has 1 tool that is better…..but you have to start somewhere….slow and steady wins the race…and as Vince mentions competition forces motivation, which means the consumer wins
Good thing i have Ridgid tools/batteries already. I stay away from the black and yellow. Every jobsite I've worked at they supply us with Dewalt tools and well I've always been disappointed with their tools especially their batteries.
Well, this is the Dewalt Atomic model, not the standard XR model. The Atomic is not a fair representation of the Dewalt Recip Saw. The DCS382 20V MAX XR is the right comparison. I bet the DCS382 meets or beats the Ridgid.
I feel the opposite actually, if there's a tool that's what I need I don't care about getting different batteries and who cares if all your tools ain't the same color. If it's Makita Milwaukee DeWalt whatever, if the tool is best suited for me and the job I'm doing then that's what I buy. Lowe's was running a Craftsman clearance so I got a set and have to say I do grab them thinking it's the Milwaukee stuff trying to put the wrong battery on more than I'd like to admit but all chargers and batteries are in the same spot so only embarrassing and not to time consuming
@@mandoreforger6999 Did you cite the right model number? I can't find a DCS382 listed on Dewalt's website. However, of the current Dewalt offerings, there is only one 20V one-handed recip saw -- the one that they tested in the video. They do have other 20V recip saws, but none are one-handed.
They have several tools that are better. Plus they cost less
Wow Ridgid crushed it! Solid and fair test. I would definitely like to see their improvements on their other offerings. Seems like they have been hard at work stepping up their game. And that’s great for the rest of the industry. Innovation! Have a great night! 👍🏻
I've been working my Rigid tools very hard for about 10 years and am very happy with them.
Still have the Dewalt tools that have survived, but not adding too many yellow tools to the truck these days.
Yeah some guys are always breaking tools because they can't tell the difference between working a tool hard and catastrophically working a tool. Then they go out and bash the brand because of their own lack of common sense. I have mainly DeWalt tools. had some chucks wear out on some drills and some batteries crap out early(all warrantied). I use milwaukee 12 volt line as well pretty much the same story there. I still have every tool I ever bought that hasn't been stolen or sold still works. I am a private maintenance contractor
Personally I prefer Rigid tools good to see them out perform DeWalt for a change, and as a plumber I'm looking forward to getting their right angle drill
People might call Vince biased when it comes to Big Red, but those are the tools he loves. Everyone has a preference and a favorite brand. Some people live and die by Ryobi, Hercules, Rigid etc etc…I wouldn’t call it biased, I’d call it the truth. When you have an 18volt impact driver with 4,400 ipm that can blow 36 and 40 volt impacts out of the water, it is what it is brothers. Milwaukee doesn’t have to deceive anyone. There tools speak for they’re selves. The Flex is definitely a monster and Vince agreed to that. He gives all tools on all platforms credit when it’s do, so how can people call him biased?? Doesn’t make sense to me. Love the content as always my brother. Awesome video 💯🙏💪❤️
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@@billmellater thanks brother. I missed that
Because when you watch these videos you notice a pattern between influencers where they all do similar videos using similar language because they are paid to do that. Really any influencer should have to disclose when they are paid to do videos and by who. You should know when your watching a commercial lol
I am big red fan as well. I will say however I despise their orbital sander and use Dewalts, 😆
I’d like to see the Ridgid go up against Milwaukee’s M18 Fuel one handed recip…..
backed... i love my m18 fuel
Ridgid vs Milwaukee is a draw on the Sawzalls I've got both. They both are great saws
Ditto!
I always felt Ridgid was built using 2 - 3 year old Milwaukee internals. But I’d say the Milwaukee wins pretty much every time. They are the flagship of TTI, whereas Ridgid is their mid level. Theres no point in having mid and top level tools if your mid is beating your top.
@@bshart1127 I totally agree….
Glad to see this comparison. I mainly use Rigid tools for my DIY projects and amateur carpenter status. Thank you Vince.
I really like your videos, as someone going from full time cooking to joining the construction/remodeling trade I greatly appreciate your no nonsense reviews and tips.
I own the dewalt atomic saw and I thought it was a good tool until I saw it up against other recip saws lol but you're exactly right vince. As a plumber I absolutely love how small dewalts is
Still is. If your on the 20v platform and wanted to get a smaller saw. I use my M12 fuel way more often than my larger saws.. by like. 50 to 1 ratio.
I own a little 12v bosch. It fits into absolutely ridiculous places. It's not "fast" but it does work.
Well you pick the tool for the job and like other commenters stated the DeWalt one handed saw is made for finer work and grab the next one up for cutting through 2X10s. Started out 18yrs ago with Ridgid but switch to DeWalt because they made a much larger line of tools to allow me to stay in one battery platform and get the jobs done for my work and could also use their OPE for my home lawn care. Milwaukee and DeWalt definitely seem to have the trades covered. Ridgid does make good tools. My stuff from 18yrs ago still work fine. Good video Vince to resolve the argument of the knot but all in all if comes down to the tool for the job. I think DeWalt is also doing a great job on giving people what they want ....smaller tools with smaller batteries .....don't want to carry heavy tools especially when we get older
You nailed it at 10:07 ! When I buy a compact recip saw I am buying it to get into tight areas and could care less about stroke length. For me the smaller the better and of course lighter because I can get into tighter areas without fatigue and even if it cuts slower chances are if I am using this type of saw it is only for a few cuts. If i wanted something powerful i would just be using my regular full size.
4:35 my guy was like what's he pointing at??? 😂😂😂
I think the DeWalt full size recip is crap too. Try rigid vs Milwaukee. Two things DeWalt can't make are recips and vacuums
I definitely agree with comment about the vacuum…. My Dewalt vacuum lacks suction power. You think Dewalt would try to make a worthy cordless vacuum…..
My DeWalt vacuum sucks. In a literal way.
@@paedahe4975 it performed really bad on the project farm tests
@@CybekCusal I have it. It’s not all that great.
@4:33 vince points to upper right for video and his parter looks like he was pointing to something that was really there😂 anyways great video guys!🔥
Nice little ending way after the video ended. I was waiting for the next video to start in the list and was surprised when I heard the saw going again.
The longer stroke length helps to clear the gullet of the teeth, shorter stroke leaves blade buried in the wood with no place for the chips/sawdust to exit the cut. The added mass actually helps dampen the vibration as well.
Good to see tools like ridgid in the game at a lower price point for those builders just starting off in the game. 👌
This rigid in the perfect pruning tool for landscapers, with the Diablo 9in pruning blade.
I own the DeWalt one hander, bought and returned the Kobskt one hander and have used the Milwaukee m12 & m18 one handers many times. In my opinion, while the Kobalt and Milwaukee units all cut faster, especially through wood, I will take the DeWalt all day. I didn't buy it to cut 2x12s or 4x4s.... As a landscaper, I bought it for pruning and irrigation and it's absolutely amazing for that. I also routinely break down pallets with it. The vibration is the best I've ever experienced in ANY recip saw, it's relatively quiet, it's light weight and compact. After using it for about 2 years, I don't want a saw that's any heavier. Frankly, I've been curious to see the Metabo HPT one hander run with the DeWalt.
That said, the Ridgid looks very impressive here. It doesn't look much bigger, and I haven't used it or felt the weight, but if it's close to the DeWalt in weight and vibration reduction, it seems like a keeper.
The Rigid should be at least 1.6 times faster just based on the SPM and stroke length. Factor in motor wattage and it’s clear why.
Crazy vince, I just watched that video, being a new sub and catching up on some content. People also claimed you were being a salesman too
Nice touch..I like the follow comparisons you do when the challenge is met not under industrial watchful eyes but yours and ours. Truth be told and not shenanigans. Thank you for what you do. Ridgid Ron
Thank you Ron, we appreciate that!
It would be a really tough thing to figure out but I imagine the longer stroke helps quite a bit.
if the specs are to be believed the Ridgid gets about 233 fpm of sawing (7/8" x3200 strokes/min) vs Dewalt's 146 fpm (5/8" x 2800 strokes/min). That equates to about 60% faster speed. Oddly enough that's about what the testing showed (when using the 5AH pack). When the larger powerstack packs come out it will start getting interesting.
And having more strokes per minute.
That's what she said
Good video, thank you for the clarifying test. You should put the ridgid against a Makita and Milwaukee just for comparison
Milwaukee is made by the same company
Ridgid makes great tools, really can't beat the Warranty either. Love me some DeWalt as well though.
thats a measure of dollars.... bajillion
LOL love you vince! thanks for a great video
I have the Atomic recip, and love how how compact it is; it fits in the bag with my drill/driver set. That said, it's not a speed machine and it didn't suprise me that the Rigid won.
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As a former plumber I’ve used both dewalt Mikita and Milwaukee. And from my experience. The dewalts speed at reciprocating is significantly slower compared to the Milwaukee or Mikita. I was able to make straighter smoother cuts with the Milwaukee vs the dewalt. At least that was my experience. I used both hack saw and saw zall from both brands. It also feels like the Milwaukee it more tight in the reciprocations than the dewalt. Let me know if anyone else has noticed that.
Thanks for the awesome content Vince!!
I definitely appreciate real tests and reviews
All you have to do is look at the specs in the beginning to know the ridgid is going to cut faster. That 7/8 stroke is very tempting.
Clean and solid test guys!
the best part of the video is when he points at the corner of the screen and his buddy starts looking around where he pointed lol
Vince, I'd like to see a head to head with the Milwaukee. I got mine for free as part of a promotion. I've only used it a couple of times but I was very impressed with its power and speed of cut cutting through solid steel
Quite a few years back my neighbor who works construction for a living bought some rigid tools. Sense then he sold ALL of his dewalt and has countless ridged tools . I have used them myself so many times on projects as we often work on together and up to this point it's all I will buy also. I am curious to see how this new flex performs compared to them but really have no plans on switching. Even their warranty is great .especially the batteries.
Looks like a fair test to me. Now the question for me would be longevity?? Time will tell the truth. Thanks Vince.
With a lifetime warranty I wonder...
@@TheRealGOTdurrrred that's great and all but from what my uncle told me ridigd keeps your tools/batteries for months. He even set back his schedule a month thinking he would get it back in time. He ended up having to buy another palm router to start/finish a cabinetry job. At least he has a back up now lol.
@@ChickenJoe24 it's always good to have backup tools
@@ChickenJoe24 I’ve got loads of ridgid tools, I’ve only had to warranty one (fell off a roof and the battery wouldn’t stay locked in) and I simply went to Home Depot, turned it in and they gave me one off the shelf. 3yr old tool which had been replaced by a newer model so I got a free upgrade. Went home with it that day.
I have the Octane recip and it’s a great saw. I also have the super sawzall. Not that much faster and part of the speed could be the weight. Ridgid does make some good stuff.
I think a lot of it comes down to choice. I inherited some old ridgid tools so I kept on that track because of battery back compatibility. Would I choose them if I hadn't had those, don't know.
Glad you see everything we all pointed out on that video
For some applications, shorter stroke length actually makes the tool easier to control accurately through the cut. So, even though it's a slower cut, a more accurate cut can be advantageous. Then again, when you want to get the job done and done now....the faster tool is the better tool.
That's what she said
Yo Vince... anybody ever tell you that with those safety glasses you look like a Minion? LOL.
Love the vids. Thanks!
that stroke length really does a lot imo
The suspense and anticipation in this showdown was real
Put the ridgid against the millwaukee
Well the same company makes both so might be different might be the same
I like Rigid and Dewalt. To me they both have pros and cons. I have had the 12v Rigid impact/driver set for years and recently bought a Makita 12v set and just wasn’t impressed. Not near the power or battery longevity as the Rigid. I ended up upgrading to the Rigid 18v line. I debated for a while between the Rigid or Dewalt, but I guess the lifetime service agreement was the selling point.
No dis but what 12v makita did you buy that an 18v couldn't do? Subcompact 18v is the shittttttt
Also if I'm ignorant, 12volt is not even on my radar
It was mainly extreme portability and price point that I tried the Makita 12v set. I’m with you 18v definitely way to go, the tool manufacturers have come a long way on all the sub compact offerings.
I've been a rigid fan ever since the lifetime warranties batteries included. I really wish they would come out with a gyro hand drill like Dewalt.
The 3/4” stroke is great for remodelers. It allows cutting studs out of a finished wall without the blade coming out the other side.
This is how stuff gets improved, well done Rigid.
"They don't need necessarily a longer stroke length or more strokes, they just need to get their tool into a tighter spot!" 🤣
Can you compare the Ridgid one handed subcompact in video and the larger one handed one handed saw
Ridgid should be happy now you went out and brought❤️ their tool and tested it 😍
Since the Dewalt is lighter, would adding extra weight to the Dewalt to balance out the weight between the two impact the test?
I love Metabo tools that's all I use! I would love to see Metabo up against DeWalt and Milwaukee any tool impact, circ saw, etc...
Or Hilti seems like so few people even know it exists
Great you figured out the trick they used
If you want to go back to this after a year, I would like to see any top recip saw against the FLEX. I have the traditional recip and it is strait up beastly for demo work, but it is almost impossible to use 1-handed. I saw that they have a model similar to the ones you tested, but I'm not sure if it would be worth adding to my arsinal.
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I would like to see Rigid vs Milwaukee M12 fuel and M18 fuel one handed saws.
That test you did on the two handed saw still comes to mind, even with slightly.better specs on paper, the rigid lost to the super Sawzall.
Trz and Vgc going at each other is the best part of their videos.
Makita is my brand I normally use. I don’t have a specific model of makita in mind but I do know they have a Saw-All cordless tool.
Good competition is a win for everyone. I still have some of the first millwalkie power tools from the late seventies and early eighties i bought. They served me professionally for 40 years. Now they just see some homeowner action instead of daily. The battery tools are getting to those kind of endurance and performance stndards. So keep up the pressure for better performance and endurance so when you buy one it works longer than you live.
Ridged is the most underrated tools on the market
When was the last time someone used a one hand recip to cut down a tree like that? Put it up against the FUEL. Thats what I have
Vince I consider you as an influencer too as I have watched some of your test.
You should put it against the new flex saw. I have both lines and am not sure witch one to pick up.
My co worker had a rigid Sawzall thing was a beast especially in orbital mode but it was heavy and rattles your brains out when you use it but I'm not surprised that the rigid was better, I buy mostly dewalt but I did not like any of their Sawzalls so I bought a different brand. In the original video the only thing that was odd to me was it looked like the dewalt was keeping up but then literally came to a dead stop in the sapwood, but thanks for this video even if it played a factor a bigger stroke length and better opm will always win
how much price this cutter
I could see the benefit of the shorter stroke if you're working in a tight spot. The tools with the shorter stroke are typically targeted at plumbers, electricians etc.
I have an older Ridgid Fuego 120 volt one-handed saw that has maybe a 1/2" stroke. It's really good for the type of things that you're going to be wanting to cut one-handed.
One thing it's terrible at is sheet metal cutting. My assumption is because it changes direction more often than any of my other recip saws.
Sheet metal with a recrip saw? My ears hurt thinking about it
Now race it against the Milwaukee 18v 1 handers
I hate that dewalt like there’s no tomorrow. Always felt like that thing doesn’t cut at all.
@vcgconstruction I'd like you guys to run the dewalt against the ryobi HP, I've been very surprised and satisfied with ryobi HP tools
The atomic is meant to compete with the M12fuel sawzall in size without the user having to go with another battery style. As stated the smaller size is good for tight areas. Sure they could add a bigger motor and a longer stroke, but at that point.. it might as well be full sized.
Yeah, and dewalt already has a mid-size recip, too. The atomic is there for the people that prioritize compactness over everything else.
I love rigid because no one ever steals my tools or asks to use them.
I watch tool reviews when there is no way I would switch platforms haha that’s what this test showed me.
Hi Guys!!! Hey Vince, could you do the same test with Rigid vs Milwaukee Fuel M18? Thanks for the video! :-)
Does it come with the weight for the same price ??
I'd like to see it take on its green big brother or the red bigger brother and see if it can do any better
Nice work Ridgid.
you know, when i watched the other video i thought omg how easy would it be to disable those competitors tools to really make it seem better.
It's a fair test. What you have to consider is the market for these tools. The DeWalt atomic is akin to Ridgid subcompact line. 12-14v size and power on a 18v platform yes I know they call it 20v max but that's fully charged any 18v platform is 20v when fully charged. Put load on the tool and that drops to a steady 18v in use. And what I read online the atomic is home depot's answer to Lowe's DeWalt Xtreme 12v line of tools. Because home Depot cried a hissy fit when Lowe's got the deal to be the exclusive retailer at least in the us for dewalts 12v line. So home Depot got the atomic line. Marginally better specs than 12v but on a battery platform everyone already has.
Claude aka Clive is the best darn influencer this side of the Mississippi!!!!!!! Toolies stand up 👊 !!!!!!!!!!
Full name Cliven
I want to see rigid vs Ryobi!
The longer stoke is not always a plus. If I'm gutting nails out in tight spaces, I don't want the blade to slip off from too much movement. Dewalt guy here, but own a few ridged as well. Respect where they're going with the brand and have an opportunity to work with their r/d team in SC.
The Ridged against the Ryobi offering would be interesting, since Ryobi is trying to step up their brand and gain a broader appeal to pros/contractors.
Would be interesting to see. In theory the Ryobi should still be a tad behind in some way since they are both made by TTi and they seem to stagger by price point per performance. So low, med, high would be Ryobi, Ridigid, Milwaukee.
Go Vince!
Tell "Clyde" I said Hi, 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Will do Redd!
Wow. It is impressive but I'm still a Dewalt guy. Something to consider though especially with the Rigid LSA...
Man, that little Rigid reciprocating saw cut as fast as a full size sawsall.
I would love to see the Rigid vs Milwaukee
Solid video
I was going to get compact bandsaw from
Ridgid but the reviews are bad on reliability vs makita and the lifetime service agreement process is slow from what I hear have to wait weeks so couldn’t go with them even though I wanted to
I would like to see how they perform🤔🧐❤️
What happened to Nick , Jimmy and King of the Crease ? I miss them on the Friday night tool tests
Nick was a good fit with this channel. I think Vince said in one video that he’s onto other things however I’m not 100% sure. Watching back videos a couple years ago compared to the last few Nick was in, he seemed to be way more toned down. Iv always wondered if there was something significant about that. When watching tool reviews I still to this day hear in my head “KITA baby!” Hopefully one day he will make a return of at least an appearance.
I say you test all new Rigid tools against new Dewalt, Mikata, & Milwaukee tools! As well as anything else you want! I Love comparing them to the best, you just can’t beat there price for the warranty alone, & there performance isn’t that bad either!
Good to see Rigid absolutely destroy Dewalt in this test. I switched from yellow to Orange some years ago, and I’m glad. It started with a corded reciprocal saw, which has been fantastic for about 15 years. Then it was there cordless wet/dry vac that I used daily on the job. It was top rated, and the suction power is incredible. The only down side was when Rigid gave up on the Octane battery line, and my battery quit after a year. Since I’m already in the battery platform, I’m now looking at their cordless 3/8 ratchet.
You're videos are so awesome. Rigid Vs. DeWalt, Jeep Vs. Bronco, Stihl Vs Husqvarna ......We men are such fools lol.
Great video vince👍 the ridged should go up against the kobalt
Agreed! Kobalt would whoop em
I want to see the circular saw that was kool
Nice video
I got your point now, size/stroke time/stroke length are different. Compact tool is supposed to be force on compare size, not on power. I would not which is no good, or just let viewers to see both spec. and power then let viewers decide which side they are looking at. ( $/size/power)
More SPM and a longer stroke. That says it all