For many years I rode with my saddle adjusted to a perfectly horizontal position, and I was very happy with my position. About four years ago, I made a few changes. Firstly I measured the width of my sit bones, and as a result I went from riding a 131mm width to a 145mm width saddle. This made a massive improvement in comfort. I also decided to try tilting my saddle forward slightly (about 5 degrees) after noticing that many pros were setting theirs up like this. These two saddle changes, in conjunction to moving to a narrower handlebar (380mm) turned out fantastically well for me, and now I'd say that I've got my position dialled in perfectly.
Great analysis. I've just bought SWorks carbon Power Saddle since it has a short nose, and will use next year. It should allow for more forward rotation of the hips 🤞
No it won’t, I can guarantee. And am not talking about first few short rides placebo effect. You can’t just go and buy bike fit, as well as you can’t just go and buy some more speed for your bicycle. All those are given, or not given at all, to you by God for free.
@@tongotongo3143I would agree with you that everything in life is God given, including how fast we can ultimately be on a bike. I have had a bike fit and is fine, but saddles do indeed change comfort level on a bike. Short nose saddles are designed to relieve pressure from the front.
Triathletes: "Uh, Federico, as a roadie you can only choose ONE. Either power or Comfort! Only triathletes have the guts being powerfully comfortable." Please, no no-socks jokes. Or else we will make sock-length jokes!
I always have an issue with my saddle having to tilt too far to allow me to get in a comfortable position but then my arms aren’t comfortable because of too much weight on them. I traded in my numb gentlemen’s area for pressure on my arms. Either that or I buy a much more upright bike but I really don’t want to. Maybe I need to hunt more for saddles or try a TT saddle.
Your problem is that you need upright position city bike with so called “female frame” but you bought a road cycling sport bike instead. Now you will be a “bike fitter” for the rest of your sport “career”.
@@fede1275 I did find pushing it back helped with relieving pressure from my hands but not fully. I’ll have to try pushing it back further. I also wonder if it is entirely my bib shorts. I have 3, all from different brands and numbness comes at different intervals for each of them but in the end it always comes. Comes slowest when I try riding with no cycling shorts, just sweatpants. If I can’t figure it out by summer I think I’ll just pay for a bike fit and see if that solves my problems before I go gear hunting.
@ Yeah who knows at this point. I feel like I’m comfortable everywhere but I’m always trading one unwanted problem for another when I try to make it perfect
Очень глубокие познания нужны для всего этого. Мне кажется это все актуально для профессионалов, они всю жизнь в седле проводят. Для любителей это не особо все надо. Главное что бы было удобно ездить и не навредить себе, но думаю тело само подскажет что не так с посадкой.
I disagree, even the professionals have based their findings on trial and error, nothing wrong with doing our own experiment, within reason of course. Sometimes even expensive bike fit do not have the desired outcome, as achieving the correct set up is an ongoing process as parameters change
@@fede1275 ну я согласен , если что-то меняется на велосипеде, то возможно нужно и остальное подкорректировать. Я лично прислушиваюсь к своим ощущениям, если чувствую что не удобно, разбираюсь в чем причина.
Профессионалы для «байкфита» уделяют гораздо меньше времени нежели городские хипстеры. Подход профиков на удивление очень простой - более менее с глазу выставил высоту и вылет седла, сел и поехал.
@@tongotongo3143 I agree with this, they also start very young and you see most of the time the body adjusting to not ideal positions. We amateurs need to be more precise, as we are way past the adjustability point of our body
I have a system of specific exercises and nutrition strategy that can make a healthy relatively fit man like you become very adaptable to any bike something like a soft rubber doll would. You would be able to ride with relative ease, efficiency, and comfort any sport bike whether one size “too big” or one size “too small”. Bikes fit industry of course doesn’t want you to find peace in this area, and they already have developed quite clever traps to keep you their client forever, the same like industry of stomatologia.
Those “aggressive” saddle angles is a myth and misconception. In order to ride fast wireless electronic bike you have to sit on a saddle the way that you are stable with your feet on the pedals without your hands even touching handlebars, simple as that. If one believes he needs saddle tilt because he is leaned forward and aggressively reaching the handlebars, then I can guarantee he will be a “bike fitter” for the rest of his life and still won’t be able to find peace with himself and his wireless electronic bike.
🤣😂😅....,for me Fred I keep it simple as more than always simple works fine for me..,my frame size is 56cm ( large ) & my stem is 120mm who i have fully slammed & my saddle a carbon printed job is set at flat., love your indepth analysis keep it up 👊🏾👍🏾
You need 140mm stem because I have seen professional races on their 56 size bikes used 140mm stems. Anything that is 120mm and shorter is a joke only suitable for beginners and newbies.
For many years I rode with my saddle adjusted to a perfectly horizontal position, and I was very happy with my position. About four years ago, I made a few changes. Firstly I measured the width of my sit bones, and as a result I went from riding a 131mm width to a 145mm width saddle. This made a massive improvement in comfort. I also decided to try tilting my saddle forward slightly (about 5 degrees) after noticing that many pros were setting theirs up like this. These two saddle changes, in conjunction to moving to a narrower handlebar (380mm) turned out fantastically well for me, and now I'd say that I've got my position dialled in perfectly.
@@santiagobenites nice one
Adjust with feel.
Great analysis. I've just bought SWorks carbon Power Saddle since it has a short nose, and will use next year. It should allow for more forward rotation of the hips 🤞
No it won’t, I can guarantee. And am not talking about first few short rides placebo effect. You can’t just go and buy bike fit, as well as you can’t just go and buy some more speed for your bicycle. All those are given, or not given at all, to you by God for free.
@@tongotongo3143I would agree with you that everything in life is God given, including how fast we can ultimately be on a bike. I have had a bike fit and is fine, but saddles do indeed change comfort level on a bike. Short nose saddles are designed to relieve pressure from the front.
Triathletes: "Uh, Federico, as a roadie you can only choose ONE. Either power or Comfort! Only triathletes have the guts being powerfully comfortable."
Please, no no-socks jokes. Or else we will make sock-length jokes!
I always have an issue with my saddle having to tilt too far to allow me to get in a comfortable position but then my arms aren’t comfortable because of too much weight on them. I traded in my numb gentlemen’s area for pressure on my arms. Either that or I buy a much more upright bike but I really don’t want to. Maybe I need to hunt more for saddles or try a TT saddle.
Have you also tried to play with the fore and aft? Maybe that can help?
Your problem is that you need upright position city bike with so called “female frame” but you bought a road cycling sport bike instead. Now you will be a “bike fitter” for the rest of your sport “career”.
@@fede1275 I did find pushing it back helped with relieving pressure from my hands but not fully. I’ll have to try pushing it back further. I also wonder if it is entirely my bib shorts. I have 3, all from different brands and numbness comes at different intervals for each of them but in the end it always comes. Comes slowest when I try riding with no cycling shorts, just sweatpants. If I can’t figure it out by summer I think I’ll just pay for a bike fit and see if that solves my problems before I go gear hunting.
interesting, definitely a fit seems to be needed. I wonder if the height is maybe to blame here
@ Yeah who knows at this point. I feel like I’m comfortable everywhere but I’m always trading one unwanted problem for another when I try to make it perfect
Очень глубокие познания нужны для всего этого. Мне кажется это все актуально для профессионалов, они всю жизнь в седле проводят. Для любителей это не особо все надо. Главное что бы было удобно ездить и не навредить себе, но думаю тело само подскажет что не так с посадкой.
I disagree, even the professionals have based their findings on trial and error, nothing wrong with doing our own experiment, within reason of course. Sometimes even expensive bike fit do not have the desired outcome, as achieving the correct set up is an ongoing process as parameters change
@@fede1275 ну я согласен , если что-то меняется на велосипеде, то возможно нужно и остальное подкорректировать. Я лично прислушиваюсь к своим ощущениям, если чувствую что не удобно, разбираюсь в чем причина.
Профессионалы для «байкфита» уделяют гораздо меньше времени нежели городские хипстеры. Подход профиков на удивление очень простой - более менее с глазу выставил высоту и вылет седла, сел и поехал.
@@tongotongo3143 I agree with this, they also start very young and you see most of the time the body adjusting to not ideal positions. We amateurs need to be more precise, as we are way past the adjustability point of our body
I have a system of specific exercises and nutrition strategy that can make a healthy relatively fit man like you become very adaptable to any bike something like a soft rubber doll would. You would be able to ride with relative ease, efficiency, and comfort any sport bike whether one size “too big” or one size “too small”. Bikes fit industry of course doesn’t want you to find peace in this area, and they already have developed quite clever traps to keep you their client forever, the same like industry of stomatologia.
Those “aggressive” saddle angles is a myth and misconception. In order to ride fast wireless electronic bike you have to sit on a saddle the way that you are stable with your feet on the pedals without your hands even touching handlebars, simple as that. If one believes he needs saddle tilt because he is leaned forward and aggressively reaching the handlebars, then I can guarantee he will be a “bike fitter” for the rest of his life and still won’t be able to find peace with himself and his wireless electronic bike.
This reads like a troll post
Maybe... lol
🤣😂😅....,for me Fred I keep it simple as more than always simple works fine for me..,my frame size is 56cm ( large ) & my stem is 120mm who i have fully slammed & my saddle a carbon printed job is set at flat., love your indepth analysis keep it up 👊🏾👍🏾
You need 140mm stem because I have seen professional races on their 56 size bikes used 140mm stems. Anything that is 120mm and shorter is a joke only suitable for beginners and newbies.