Regional Differences [53] Ranma ½ (USA vs JPN) SNES vs SFC (Region Comparison) VCDECIDE
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- VCDECIDE | Region Comparison of Ranma 1/2 vs Street Combat (American Version of 亂馬½ 町內激鬥篇 )
Left-Side = Japanese Version/ Ranma ½ - Chounai Gekitouhen
Right-Side = American Version/ Street Combat
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Wow this has to be one of the most embarassing examples of region differences
This game was bad but they made it worse
When I was a kid I thought pretty much EVERYTHING was "off" about Street Combat. Now everything makes sense.
I ditched it and go japanese version like my friends did
Street Combat looks like one of those generic, poorly animated video games you see people play in the background of a TV show/movie because you’re not supposed to pay too much attention to it.
Japan:Anime Characters.
USA:robots,weird humans.
But we love it
LEFT=Original game
RIGHT: Hack rom game
Ranma Saotome:"Another copycat?"
Steven:"It's the original Captain Hero Himself!"
Ranma Saotome:"We're just here first!!!"
When someone wants Ranma 1/2 in the super nintendo you got Street Combat.
Nah, you got the improved sequel.
I'm guessing this stupid change was actually a legal rights thing at the time. If not that someone in the company was being stupid and thought Americas wouldn't like the characters even though Ranma was already here and people were enjoying the series.
It was the latter.
The next game was released untouched. And the third game was advertised, before they changed their minds.
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 do you have a citation for that? I heard Viz and Irem had issues getting permission from the distributor in Japan to localize the game 1 for 1. I highly doubt they would purposefully Americanize it when it's easier just to translate the game.
@@groidcel
Fair question. So I've taken a quick glance around the internet, and nobody's providing sources for any of this.
They're all just arguing with each other.
With that said, full sprite replacements from the time aren't exactly uncommon. Just look at Mean Bean Machine/Kirby's Avalanche. Or, for a Japanese makeover of an American license, look at what George Jetson looks like in his Super Famicom counterpart.
Remember, these companies are out to make money first.
In the era of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", and a manufactured moral panic over Night Trap, how are you going to market a cute sex change comedy to the testosterone filled American fighting game community? Which was going crazy for vanilla Street Fighter 2 and Mortal Kombat?
"By giving them credit for their intelligence and giving a growing but completely ignored American otaku market a sub-par licensed game" is the right answer, but apparently it wasn't the obvious one.
And the fact we never got the third game suggests it might have been an idea ahead of its time. If the second game had sold as well as DBZ did, when it finally hit the west?
We'd still be getting Ranma games.
@@juststatedtheobvious9633 I think the reason the third fighter never got an english version was because the company that owned the rights might have went out of business. I remember it was supposed to come here but then the game mags at the time mentioned in a later issue it was canceled.
In the 90s, anime was NOT a thing for American kids. AT ALL. It was different for me and my friends because we were bilingual and multicultural. Our parents moved here from Korea so anime was a thing for us and my friends. I remember watching Dragon Ball Z episodes that we rented from the Korean store. It was dubbed in Korean, or it was Japanese and had Korean subtitles. So naturally we knew about Ranma. And when street combat was released we still played the crap out of it. All while laughing at how BAD the port was done.
The changes weren't due to any legal reasons. But out of touch clueless execs felt that Ranma was "too asian" for the American market. So they gave us... STREET COMBAT (queue the trumpets).
13:50 Congrturations, Steven, for buying a very worthy game
I was very confused when I looked for the usa version of that ranma game
Jesus... Cheguei a jogar esse street quando era pequeno, nunca desconfiei que era Ranma. Que loucura!
Eu também, imagina o choque ao descobrir que era Ranma kkkkkk
So... The First SFC Game was changed entirely for overseas SNES.
Second SFC Game was widely distributed (although names and logo were changed in Europe to their loclaizations). Also check the Bruce Lee-faced Ranma in the overseas artbox.
Third SFC Game only published in Japan.
This could happen for different reasons.
Sometimes a licensed property wasn't that popular in other territories.
Sometimes a game publisher only had the rights to the license in one territory but not others.
In some cases it could be both. There was some game on the Game Boy that they reskinned for every single territory it was released in.
It was definitely a rights issue. Rannma 1/2 was extremely popular in US VHS rental sales at the time.
@@the-NightStar
Not to mention the manga was readily available, even at public libraries.
Locally, there used to be something called bookmobile run by the public library,
and they would drive around and lend cool stuff out, like the Ranma 1/2 manga, English translated.
I wouldn't have even recalled that fact if not for watching this video.
5:15 Gotta admit that the Street Combat bonus stage taking place on top of a speeding vehicle/train is pretty badass.
That stage is also present in the Ranma game, as a 2 player stage exclusive.
I remember getting street combat thinking it was like street fighter oh how wrong I was
You fell for their trap.
I remember EGM doing a piece on the changes Ranma went through when it became Street Combat.
Yeah, I'm getting old*\0/*
I remember that same EGM issue. Yeah, it's official. We're old.;)
We are really old then
EGM, Diehard Gamrfan, GamePro, Tips and Tricks
I miss video game magazines.....
Yeah, I'm old too
Haha! I used to play Ranma ½ in the late 1990's - had no idea the other version existed.
Me too, all this time I thought the SFC Ranma 1/2 never made it outside Japan, since my older brother handled imports at that time, and I really enjoyed the game, but technically they made it under the R-Type developers (Irem Corporation) and completely changed the character designs, and names, although their fighting style still remain as it was like the Japanese version, man, never heard of Street Combat before, my guess is that the Irem Corporation one, was so underrated, than the Japan import which is Ranma 1/2
E esse foi um tutorial de como pegar um jogo bom e transformar-lo em um jogo ruim kkkkk
Isso era moda. Que bom que acabou.
Mas a gameplay não permanece a mesma?
Ranma 1/2 um dos melhores animes que ja assistir, bons tempos da playTv,
Trigun, gungrave, samurai champloo e love hina foram os que mais passaram.
Pena nunca ter jogado nenhum jogo de ranma 1/2. Mas a comparação foi bastante interessante bom trabalho princesa caju.
Gracias, siempre quise ver las diferencias de estas versiones
I wonder if anyone ever did a video like this with Rise of Incarnets and Gundam VS.
Even though I had never seen the anime this was based on, I always felt bad for the fans because of the way the game was butchered in the west. I remember the complete transformation of the game being discussed in a gaming magazine.
Wow,I never knew.I'll still take Ranma over the other game,tho.
Nice, I want to see more direct comparison of regional differences like this!
But man, if anime hadn’t exploded in popularity, we might still be seeing this kind of drastic changes like this today. Imagine the whole cast of One Piece or Naruto getting turned into some random clowns and robots. LOL
It’s pretty cool, though, to see complete sprites change like this, kinda like an alternate skins for the characters in modern 3D games instead of just colour palette swap.
Insert "look what they did to my boy" meme here...
As a kid, I was super pissed when I found out they were changing Ranma 1/2 to Street Combat for the US, as I was a huge Ranma fan. I still don't get why they did it. There's nothing really appealing about the redesign.
Because nobody knew Ranma in the US when this came out. Street Combat came out in the US before Ranma did.
Heck, Hard Battle came out here before half the cast got their US debut. We didn't even know who Shampoo was yet...
So the USA version is just the same sprites, but traced on top to look nothing like the original.
They didn't do a good job. You can see the characters still have the same body build and animations as the Ranma 1/2 characters.
Actually, they kind of had to. If they didn't, they'd have to reanimate all their moves, too. And they figured "why do that when no one else will ever know the difference"
Poor Kodachi, they turned her into a clown 😭
I actually own Street Combat. It's not the best fighting game ever, but it's certainly not as bad as people say it is.
Steven parece com o Ken do Street Fighter 2010.
Eu nunca entendi isso.... Robôs? Robotizaram personagens e trocaram outros por qual motivo?
Talvez na época Ranma 1/2 não tivesse sido exibido nós EUA, ou não era popular.
@@SushicomFarofa7 me lembrou o que fizeram com a franquia _Contra_ (jogo de tiro futurista e cyberpunk), que foi lançado na Europa no anos 90 (com nome de Probotector). Robotizaram os personagens também.
Even if Ranma didnt come on tv at the time, they should have just released it as is and have the player connect the dots. Nobody would have questioned it
@The Player that 2nd game was called Ranma 1/2: Hard Battle.
@The Player
But half the words in English come from French in the first place.
I was always grateful we got "Ranma 1/2: Hard Battle" here in North America in its original form. It's kind of a miracle, honestly, as the anime itself was completely brand-new and mostly unknown here at the time the game got released. (LOL. Unrelated, but I love that you literally beat the stolen underwear out of Happosai in this game.)
Actually Ranma 1/2 was one of the most popular anime in the US at the time in terms of video rental VHS sales. It was one of the first mainstream anime not to be broadcast on TV, but it was still really popular and well known. It almost singlehandedly made Viz what it is today.
I was around back then, and while you aren't wrong on your main point, your timeline is a little off. "Ranma 1/2: Hard Battle" was released on the SNES in North America in November 1993. 1993 was also the same year that Viz Video licensed Ranma 1/2 and started putting out the very first VHS tapes of the series stateside. Ranma certainly BECAME a big deal in the North American anime community by the mid to late 1990s, but at the time this game came out it was a relatively new and unknown property over here. The game was also filled with Ranma characters that American viewers of the anime wouldn't even see for another 5-10 years when the later seasons were released, such as Gosunkugi and Pantyhose Taro. For all of those reasons, whoever released the SNES game in North America at that particular moment in time back in 1993 was taking a bit of a risk. But I am very glad they took it!
Holy!?!? I remember Street Combat, it was bad. But now, I understand the reasons. A really bad localization, I don't know, if it can be considered as one even.
What the hell, it's an entirely different game
Versão japonesa é mais atraente ! ✌️
Worst localization ever!! Thank you for restoring the truth!
It most likely be licensing issues from the manga and anime back then before Ranma 1/2 brought to the US.
@@DigiPen92 true, but licensing issues should not allow such a thing. This is forcing a game release at any cost, even if it means changing its original characters who are the soul of the story. What I don't understand is why releasing such a game in a foreign country, although it is not even a best seller and mainly based upon fan service in its original land? Wouldn't it be better to leave it unmodified and only as a SFC import for those who know/really want to play it?
I don't think it's the "worst". In fact, out of all localizations ever, this probably had the MOST work put into it. If it was "bad" it would have hardly any work or new assets put into it and the translation would be gibberish. This was actually ambitious and had a lot of work put into it. ..............it just happened to be done for all the wrong reasons.
Damn I dont know how I never tied these together. Good video
among the 3 Ranma fighting games for the SNES, the 2nd one was the best
I prefer the last one.
Just when I got introduced to Ranma 1/2 just by watching the review of Street Combat courtesy of former youtuber Jedite1 way back in October of 2014 when I saw it, having never heard of Ranma 1/2 in my whole entire life until then, not even knowing that it even WAS on the German channel RTL II in which I terribly missed out on until that very point.
Croc: Legend of Gobbos, and even you Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne, eat your own hearts out......
Tive o Street Combat quando era garoto!
Por ser o único cartucho que eu tive durante quase um ano, acabei descobrindo acidentalmente algumas formas pra selecionar personagens iguais e secretos.
Ranma was great, I had no idea they changed it for America!
Nem sabia que existia essa gambiarra americana.
this shows perfectly how a "bad" game can differ a HELL LOT if it remains with the original anime tematic or is reshaped into total failure...
(most ppl kinda will try a "bad" ranma game, but never an "original" BAD game)
I just bought the Japanese version and its sequel off of ebay a few weeks ago! I'm still baffled as to why the hell Irem bothered without getting the license for it, considering all the extra work they'd need to do.
I owned an USA version of Ranma1/2 I never heard of the other game
Esse Ranma não é muito bom não, mas o Ranma 1/2: Chougi Ranbu Hen, tbm para SNES, é show de bola, tem patch pra inglês, e pode parecer lento, mas fica rápido se colocar na opção de reduzir slowdown, tem essa opção no Retroarch.
Ah, yes, the standard G. I. weapon, the katana.
Os caras que fizeram a conversão se empenharam para deixar o jogo mais genérico possível, desde de visuais até o nome super genérico (Street Combat).
Só algumas das músicas que se salvam mesmo...
Esta versão US me lembra o jogo da Mônica no Castelo do Dragão
I still can't fathom how this was done😂
Gente... Kkkkkkk. Nada contra, afinal Mário 2 é os jogos da turma da monica foram feitos assim, mas desse caso aí nem fazia ideia.
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Nem eu kkkkkk 🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣 é isso que achando hilário !
Mas nos exemplos que você deu, os personagens são bem carismáticos. Já esses "iu essi ei" aí...
@@rodrigomomo4850 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
quien fue el autor de esta atrocidad? en lugar de importar el juego de uno de los anime mas populares de la epoca, reemplazan los personajes por otros horrendos que no conoce nadie
Saying I have *several* questions would be an understatement.
What the actual f....!!! 😱😱😱
when a company hacks its own game
Unbelievable,there should never been exist bizarre version.I m glad never know it in its time.
So, in order to keep the character from looking like Ranma they made him look like Captain Commando. Got it.
Localização americana: sempre estragando produção de outros países
全てを作り替えるとは一体何故だ！？
当時は漫画の英語版もあったので、完全に理解できない。
Both versions are jank, but at least the original had Ranma in it...
In a meet:
- We can't release the game as Ranma becaue nobody in the US knows these characters
- Cool. Then let's waste thousands of dollars creating new characters nobody knows for the US release.
- Makes sense, let's do that.
Ryoga's USA counterpart looks like Marvel Comics Daredevil. Lol
What, whyO_o??! This looks like a mod.
USA Ranma....,what is this.. 🤦♂️,looks like Donald trump/captain commando fusion
OMG the USA's "version" is so bad. Character design and sprite art are super cheap
this ain't ranma 1/2
this is steven 50/50
Magical TARURUTO KUN Megadrive vs Super Famicom..! Please! 🙏🙏🙏💖!
Well I get the sprite swap but why the hell did they butcher the game play?
This kinda reminds me the Doraemon/Cratermaze situation
i have some questions...
Tem vários jogos de ranma pra SNES, esse aí eu gosto por ser um dos meus primeiros jogos de SNES, mas essa versão americana aí é realmente bizarro kk
That's why tracing is wrong!
I don't like what was done either, but I think you're definitely missing the point of what they were trying to do and why they did it.
@@the-NightStar Was Just a joke hahaha I never player Street Combat, just Ranma 1/2.
If I remember right, the japaniese game is based on an anime with a lot of nudity.
It's a gender bender manga where the protagonist keeps changing from male to female with water contact.
@@kekeke8988 His father, Genma, from human, to a panda animal, his rival Ryoga, from human, to a pig, his "girlfriend" (as part of the harem) Shampoo, from human, to a cat, and finally, his other rival Mousse (the guy who claims Shampoo, as his girlfriend) from human, to a duck/goose
It is not even the same game!
Mil vezes a versão japonesa. Os americanos só estragavam os jogos quando portavam para eles.
Felizmente aqui no Brasil os importados do Japão eram comuns. Eu acho que não ia curtir esse jogo se tivesse jogado a versão americana. Além do visual ser esquisito, perdeu todo humor do jogo.
Japan version is better, always
NOT always. But in this case, yes.
Probably the worst "localization identity crisis" from it's time.
They didn't want to pay the franchise license or the game was "too japanese" for Uncle Sam's kids ? 🤔
Sin saber que en mi infancia jugué un Ranma plagiado
🙈🙈🙈
Hey it's exactly like when comparing US comic's to Manga these days or terrible woke re/demakes but from like 29+ years ago! I actually owned "Street Combat", it's SO bad that it's great and everything that's wrong with US gaming market in which for a while of so like the last decade was actually pretty good has now fallen back into it's politically incorrect/wokedom that it is so. Street Combat is the perfect game you give to your child that you hated or to a blind kid via Christmas time?! I may even want the R!m again just to laugh at it. Ranma 1/2 is great but Street Combat is great for laughs tho...
G...I...JIM!
Ironically my favorite character in the game
Wow they just make a rip off the game?In the game In outside of Japan?
I still don't understand why anyone would think that the western version would be more appealing than the japanese version...and not only for this game. I'm talking about the hundreds of western adaptations. The western versions just look horrible and uninspired. One that really hurt me back in the day was the Captain Tsubasa adaptations...the western characters looked HORRIBLE in comparison. Whoever decided that, deserves capital punishment.
Haha..."happy" and stick "happy".
"Ranma 1/2"💖 is better than stupid and ugly copycat named Street Combat!😑
And i've my first game from "Ranma 1/2 - Chounai Gekitou Hen", plus "Hard Battle" from Japanese in my collection!💖💖
Genma = Tyrone? LOL. This shit here...
Street combat is ranma hard battle🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
Aí vc percebe como o carisma dos personagens pode transformar um jogo bosta num jogo minimamente decente.
Ha, Street Combat. I still have the cartridge.
The anime one is better
MD WINS!!!!!!
SEEEEEEEEGAAAA!!!
Ai minha nossa, essa versão americana é uma abominação.
ranma win
Ranma/Genma, it’s better Steven/Tyrone…
The US SNES is ugly beyond belief
CONGRTURATIONS, LOL
Esse jogo tem sprites maiores que os de Art of Fighting 3 de arcade.
Não.
Definitivamente, NÃO !!!
Notoriamente, nem tamanhos iguais, muito menos maiores !!!
Ví em um outro vídeo sobe essa informação, e pelo menos lá parece que essa comparação é real.
Obrigado pela resposta.
Geez reskinning Ranma 1/2 characters...
*não sabia q esse lixo de STREET COMBAT era uma versão americana de um jogo japonês*